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Hirsi Ali faced “credible threats” while in the United States

posted at 9:12 pm on October 4, 2007 by Allahpundit
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I know I shouldn’t be surprised, but I am. Tucked away in the middle of a Times report on her security snafu we find this:

In the case of Ms. Hirsi Ali, the [Dutch] government also provided security for her while she lived in the Netherlands and traveled abroad. That arrangement continued for several months after she moved to the United States 13 months ago to become a fellow at the American Enterprise Institute in Washington. Subsequently the Netherlands paid for protection provided by an American security firm.

However, last December, she was warned in a letter from the Dutch minister of justice, Ernst Hirsch Ballin, that payment for her American bodyguards would end in July this year. That decision was revoked after Ms. Hirsi Ali received new credible death threats in the United States.

CJ noted today at LGF that in fact the earlier reports were wrong. It wasn’t that the U.S. government refused to provide security for her, it’s that they’re legally unable to do so for anyone who isn’t a citizen. Which prompts the question: Why didn’t they grant her citizenship instead of permanent residency?

The New York Times article quotes her lawyer as saying she’s trying to arrange for her own security in the U.S., but according to the Times of London, it’s cost the Dutch government upwards of $5 million over the past three years to protect her. Worse, if ToL’s sources are right, she may be without any bodyguards at the moment. Where do we go to donate?


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Can we make her ambassador to the Netherlands, just for a little irony and to lighten up bad situation?

AZCON on October 4, 2007 at 9:19 PM

Where do we go to donate?

Good question…..

Got any suggestions?

Mcguyver on October 4, 2007 at 9:20 PM

At the cost of sounding ill informed, Who is Ms. Hirsi Ali?

allrsn on October 4, 2007 at 9:23 PM

Please tell me you’re joking.

Allahpundit on October 4, 2007 at 9:24 PM

allrsn on October 4, 2007 at 9:23 PM

Just look her up so you don’t look silly next time.

BadgerHawk on October 4, 2007 at 9:26 PM

At the cost of sounding ill informed, Who is Ms. Hirsi Ali?

Ali and Hitchens are AP’s little athiest friends, that also happen to share our concerns over the Islamists.

AZCON on October 4, 2007 at 9:26 PM

Send the donation info……I’d rather give it to Ms Ali then the RNC.

Limerick on October 4, 2007 at 9:28 PM

LGF comments are full of willing people to donate to this cause. I don’t know how to set something like this up, but I think that it would take off ten-fold.

mimi1220 on October 4, 2007 at 9:30 PM

ahh ok ty, I do remember more about her now

allrsn on October 4, 2007 at 9:30 PM

Anyone here have connections to Blackwater? They could use some good plublicity these days.

AZCON on October 4, 2007 at 9:35 PM

From dhimmi watch

Ms. Hirsi Ali was born in 1969 in Mogadishu–into, as she puts it, “the Islamic civilization, as far as you can call it a civilization.” In 1992, at age 22, her family gave her hand to a distant relative; had the marriage ensued, she says, it would have been “an arranged rape.” But as she was shipped to the appointment via Europe, she fled, obtaining asylum in Holland.

Yes, I do remember her now. A very gutsy and outspoken women who both needs and deserves support and protection for the information she has given us about shura abuses of fellow humans.

allrsn on October 4, 2007 at 9:38 PM

She’ll be the Susan B. Anthony of her time when history is written. May whomever is up there keep her safe.

SouthernGent on October 4, 2007 at 9:50 PM

Credible threats here in the U.S.? Lovely. How good to know that we have jihadis ready to murder women because they disagree with their opinions. Or is it because she’s an apostate? Either way: Bastards.

Meryl Yourish on October 4, 2007 at 9:50 PM

It wasn’t that the U.S. government refused to provide security for her, it’s that they’re legally unable to do so for anyone who isn’t a citizen.

Now I do not say this lightly but wouldn’t she be granted citizenship if she married an American citizen?

Mojack420 on October 4, 2007 at 9:52 PM

OK, so who among us has the guts (and free time) to start up, take collections for, and manage a fund for Hirsi Ali’s security?

stonemeister on October 4, 2007 at 9:55 PM

Credible threats HERE? That INFURIATES me!
I agree with AP’s observation: where do we donate?
Honestly, with all the connections the foundation she was working for has, you would think some generous group or individual would step up.
This is just sad. If she winds up like Theo…I cant even think about it. Please Dear God, someone STEP UP!

labwrs on October 4, 2007 at 9:56 PM

It wasn’t that the U.S. government refused to provide security for her, it’s that they’re legally unable to do so for anyone who isn’t a citizen.

A murderous Iranian despot who oppresses his citizens, kills our troops and violates international law gets Secret Service protection. A respected lady who speaks out against terrorists and our government just can’t protect her. Sad.

amerpundit on October 4, 2007 at 9:57 PM

Why didn’t they grant her citizenship instead of permanent residency?

Someone at the State Department probably determined that it would be an unnecessary provocation of jihadists, second only to actually killing jihadists.

rw on October 4, 2007 at 9:58 PM

By the way, I concur with the donation thing.

amerpundit on October 4, 2007 at 9:58 PM

You can’t tell me that AEI can’t afford to hire a full time bodyguard. Lord knows she was probably making good bread while working there. There’s something more to this.

Drum on October 4, 2007 at 9:59 PM

it’s that they’re legally unable to do so for anyone who isn’t a citizen.

But we can give protection to that little chimp from Iran when he wants to come over here? That is BS man!

conservnut on October 4, 2007 at 10:01 PM

I was following her before her first book got released (The Caged Virgin) and I know that she is not one to cower and retreat, especially in the face of Islamo-shitheads. She’s been dealing with this her whole life and if living in the States is that important to her she would find a way to secure herself. My feeling is that she plans to get involved again in the Netherlands. Who knows, she is fairly liberal and has not commented too much on the war in Iraq. Maybe she had a falling out with AEI. This is just weird. We are lesser without her. Hitchens is good, but Ms Hirsi Ali was untouchable.

Drum on October 4, 2007 at 10:03 PM

I have been thinking about this since I first heard word of this terrible turn of events. It seems to me the Heritage Foundation should have the know-how for setting up a fund in the correct way. They would be the correct channel to work through. Surely they must have considered by now how many of us there are who would be proud to give all that we can for some one so precious and worthy!

Nyog_of_the_Bog on October 4, 2007 at 10:10 PM

The American Enterprise Institute — Ms Hirsi Ali’s recent employer — I think has more money than Heritage. Indeed, they manage to publish a glossy monthly magazine that nobody reads (The American) except Jim Glassman and one or two others, so surely they can spare the money to keep her safe.

This is just really bad.

Drum on October 4, 2007 at 10:19 PM

It wasn’t that the U.S. government refused to provide security for her, it’s that they’re legally unable to do so for anyone who isn’t a citizen.

Any one ever heard of “political asylem”?

allrsn on October 4, 2007 at 10:19 PM

Drum on October 4, 2007 at 10:19 PM

I stand corrected Drum. I thought she was with heritage -for some reason, that came to mind. I should have checked my facts (like re-reading the above before I posted!) How dumb of me! You are right of course and A.E.I. makes much more sense too.

Nyog_of_the_Bog on October 4, 2007 at 10:26 PM

amerpundit on October 4, 2007 at 9:57 PM
conservnut on October 4, 2007 at 10:01 PM

Find out the facts before ranting.

It is part of the duties of the U.S. Secret Service to protect:

Visiting heads of foreign states or governments and their spouses traveling with them ***

http://www.secretservice.gov/protection.shtml

That is why Ahmadinejad received Secret Service protection.

slp on October 4, 2007 at 10:27 PM

allrsn on October 4, 2007 at 10:19 PM

Here are two very good Ayaan Hirsi Ali interviews

My favorite is with Avi Lewis of CBN.

This one is excellent as a bio.

Mcguyver on October 4, 2007 at 10:34 PM

Why didn’t they grant her citizenship instead of permanent residency?

She’s here legally they can’t do that.

Ayaan just needs to get herself busted for something like say multiple DUI negligent homicide and the EOIR and Congress will bend over backwards to protect her and keep her here.

Speakup on October 4, 2007 at 10:39 PM

Wait, the article says that she went to Holland, but is she gonna come back? It doesn’t say.

Mojack, I’D marry her … if I weren’t *already* married. Dammit.

Anybody out there who hasn’t read her book “Infidel” is really missing out. “The Caged Virgin” was ok, but Infidel is a must-read. She’s working on her third book now, sure to cause a rucus, it has her speaking through allah or something like that. I hope all the world’s fire dept’s are prepaired.

Tony737 on October 4, 2007 at 10:52 PM

I hate to sound like a a*shole but doesn’t she have enough money to protect herself? If nothing else she is not in EU pansy land no more go get a CCW and freekin protect yourself.

I know that sounds like I am being mean but I am not we need on to support the strong not the weak. Ms. Hirsi Ali has got a sack that would make the vast majority of our own politicians envious.

The two biggest threat to our nation today is A) PC don’t question there patriotism BS and B) Lets win a war but not “offend” anyone.

C-Low on October 4, 2007 at 10:54 PM

Which prompts the question: Why didn’t they grant her citizenship instead of permanent residency?

I hate to be the lone voice of dissent here but why would anyone with HotAir be advocating that anyone be granted citizenry when you guys are so dead set against it for illegals?

Yes, I realize she was here legally unlike the illegals but giving away citizenry is still a horribly bad idea in any situation. Not that I think Hirsi Ali would take it for granted from what she’s said but if citizenry can be given away then it makes it meaningless. Citizenry should be earned.

Certainly I think a way should have been found for her to stay here and be protected but there’s a line I don’t think we should cross.

Benaiah on October 4, 2007 at 10:57 PM

Which prompts the question: Why didn’t they grant her citizenship instead of permanent residency?

Thanks for not saying “begs the question”.

mikeyboss on October 4, 2007 at 10:58 PM

After all of the immigration BS that gets shoved down our throats minute by minute for the last four decades I think we can afford citizenship for Ayaan Hirsi Ali, we’re owed that much.

Start a petition, with enough sponsors she can become a citizen.

Speakup on October 4, 2007 at 11:19 PM

slp on October 4, 2007 at 10:27 PM

?

I don’t think anyone is questioning the legality of it, just pointing out the stupidity of it.

I hate to be the lone voice of dissent here but why would anyone with HotAir be advocating that anyone be granted citizenry when you guys are so dead set against it for illegals?

Please. Are you for real?

Citizenry should be earned.

She has earned it.

reaganaut on October 4, 2007 at 11:24 PM

Ali and Hitchens are AP’s little athiest friends, that also happen to share our concerns over the Islamists.

AZCON on October 4, 2007 at 9:26 PM

I can’t believe you put Ali and Hitchens in the same boat. Ali is much more than just an Athiest who shares our concerns over the Islamists. Much more!

Joshua P. Allem on October 5, 2007 at 12:47 AM

Why didn’t they grant her citizenship instead of permanent residency?

Precisely what I said should happen (in the first thread, yesterday).

On the marriage idea – can’t marry an American as an arranged marriage, not legal (though not clear how to prove the negative). However, even if she’d marry one, and he’d be a citizen, she’d have to wait for 3 years before she’d become one.

Best track w/b for the state dept. to do something not PC to some in the Muslim community and make her a citizen. I don’t have any faith in them any more.

Entelechy on October 5, 2007 at 2:01 AM

Can we make her ambassador to the Netherlands, just for a little irony and to lighten up bad situation?

AZCON on October 4, 2007 at 9:19 PM

Better yet, make her the ambassador to Muslims.

Tim Burton on October 5, 2007 at 3:36 AM

That decision was revoked after Ms. Hirsi Ali received new credible death threats in the United States.

“These Death Threats brought to you by The Religion of Peace.”

BKennedy on October 5, 2007 at 4:40 AM

“These Death Threats brought to you by The Religion of Peace Cult of Death.”

BKennedy on October 5, 2007 at 4:40 AM

Fixed it for you. :)

Texas Nick 77 on October 5, 2007 at 5:56 AM

AZCON on October 4, 2007 at 9:26 PM

This is for you…

Just look her up so you don’t look silly next time.

BadgerHawk on October 4, 2007 at 9:26 PM

right2bright on October 5, 2007 at 7:15 AM

“Why didn’t they grant her citizenship instead of permanent residency?”

Why would it matter? As I noted earlier, it is not the duty of the United States Government to provide body guards to anybody outside of government, citizen or no. And if they put her in the Witness Protection Program (which does not require citizenship to be included), she would be effectively muzzled and unable to get her message out.

georgej on October 5, 2007 at 9:07 AM

Why doesn’t Blackwater volunteer some guys currently on furlough?

pabarge on October 5, 2007 at 9:36 AM

Which prompts the question: Why didn’t they grant her citizenship instead of permanent residency?

Maybe she doesn’t want to become an American?

Esthier on October 5, 2007 at 9:51 AM

She has earned it.

reaganaut

Really? If she went through the legal process to become a citizen she would have been granted citizenship. She didn’t earn it by being persecuted by jihadists.

Benaiah on October 5, 2007 at 10:09 AM

I knew there had to more to the original story that wasn’t being reported. I wonder if the Feds are tracking the source of the credible threats. Or would that be a violation of the Patriot Act, and the sort of thing the ACLU would have a fit about?

Buy Danish on October 5, 2007 at 11:38 AM

OK, so who among us has the guts (and free time) to start up, take collections for, and manage a fund for Hirsi Ali’s security?

stonemeister on October 4, 2007 at 9:55 PM

I’ll do it…the only thing I’d ask is for Allah, HA, Michelle, & JW sites to create a permanent link to the site once I have it up & running. The link can ensure constant access for donating…she’ll need it.

Waiting on your reply, AP.

Miss_Anthrope on October 5, 2007 at 1:22 PM

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