Video: Conservatives have a fee-vah and the only prescription is more flag vigilante!
posted at 5:07 pm on October 3, 2007 by Allahpundit
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Shawn Wasson says he spoke to the man himself, a.k.a. Jim Brossard, earlier this afternoon and asked him why he didn’t simply call the cops. Brossard’s answer: the cops refused to come. Why would the cops refuse to do that? Because, according to the ACLU, it’s not a crime to fly another flag above the stars and stripes:
While there is indeed a federal law regulating the display of the U.S. flag, that law is merely advisory and simply codifies standard government practice in displaying the American flag.
Several federal courts have examined this law and held that the flag rules are not mandatory and cannot be enforced. Indeed, if the federal flag rules were mandatory, they would clearly violate the First Amendment, which protects every American’s right to speak and express themselves, including their choice of flag to display.
I think they’re right, in which case Brossard doesn’t even have the excuse that he was doing the job American cops were supposed to, but didn’t, do. Now it’s on to the lawsuit, which he’ll lose — and then recoup the damages he has to pay 100 times over via donations from admiring conservatives.
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I think they’re right, in which case Brossard doesn’t even have the excuse that he was doing the job American cops were supposed to, but didn’t, do.
Faced with what is right, to leave it undone shows a lack of courage. Go before the people with your example, and be laborious in their affairs.
- Confucius
MB4 on October 3, 2007 at 6:50 PM
Leave Jim Brossard alone!!
JetBoy on October 3, 2007 at 6:51 PM
Now it’s on to the lawsuit, which he’ll lose — and then recoup the damages he has to pay 100 times over via donations from admiring conservatives.
Virtue is not left to stand alone. He who practices it will have neighbors.
- Confucius
MB4 on October 3, 2007 at 6:55 PM
WINNER!
RushBaby on October 3, 2007 at 6:57 PM
Would’ve been more effective with a creepy mascara-eyed video, but… yeah, JetBoy wins.
ScottMcC on October 3, 2007 at 7:02 PM
There is a word for this much euphoria. I can picture you while typing, and submitting this.
Entelechy on October 3, 2007 at 7:11 PM
Keep in mind thought, that prosecutors have complete discretion as to what cases they want to bring before a court.
Troy Rasmussen on October 3, 2007 at 7:12 PM
I guess that is like saying the United States Constitution is just a piece of paper. How can anyone say they “love America” but consider the flag just a piece of cloth, no different than an old oil rag. I don’t condone stealing property, but, you have to admire his courage! If only Republicans in congress had half the courage he displayed!
JellyToast on October 3, 2007 at 7:13 PM
Enrique, you atheist, America-loving, contrarian-thought-provoking dude, who thinks that the flag is just another haberdashery item, I’m considering disowning you :)
On second thought, I’m stronger than that, and I’d miss you :(
Entelechy on October 3, 2007 at 7:19 PM
Depends on where it happens.
eanax on October 3, 2007 at 7:22 PM
There are only two possibilities:
1) AP will do anything for traffic-the more “outrageous”, the better. Or
2) AP has had his lunch money stolen way too many times and never learned how to fight back. I pick #2. Seems like the kind of “guy” who would let some lout abuse his mother/ girlfriend/ little sister, and then squirm away with thoughts of a law suit in his head. Guess what? Some people stand up for what they believe in, and take action. It’s also illegal to swat some #sshole for insulting your wife, but there are those of us who would…
JWS on October 3, 2007 at 7:23 PM
This is how it starts. One Mexican flag here flying over our flag, then another, then another and before you know it, we’d have flying Mexican flags as common in our country as we have phone calls giving you the option of speaking English or Spanish…as if Spanish has equal standing with English in our country. Enough is enough. People are getting ticked and deservedly so.
katieanne on October 3, 2007 at 7:23 PM
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Please, Please remind me why we should not all walk into these federal courts during a hearing in the nude, shouting loudly, and handing out fliers with this exact pararaph printed on them?
BKennedy on October 3, 2007 at 7:27 PM
All together now….
Maybe to you the flag does not mean anything, and it is the country that soliders fight and die for, however to soliders the flag represents the country they are fighting for.
In the Revolutionary War you had a person that carried the flag if we was killed/injured another solider would pick up the flag to help the soliders to fight on.
That tradition is still carried on today to a degree in Basic Training/Military.
Every morning/night respect is paid to the flag when it is raised and lowered.
In Basic everywhere we marched we carried a flag that represented our training squadron, why?
It was something that made our “gaggle” (when we started out anyway) united. We were a team all working together to get thru BT together. (Basic Training really stress teamwork this was one more way they could stress it).
Those of us that did that went on to wear a US flag on our arms.
Deployed to Saudi/away from home/family it was always a comfort (for me anyway) to see the flag flying when things were not going the best. I got lucky during my deployments to Saudi (missed the Khobar attack that destroyed my building by one day).
Maybe the flag does not mean anything to you, however to most Vets (me included and I assume Jim) the flag represents the USA when in a foreign land.
To see someone discrete the flag like that in Reno, NV, USA pi&&es me off to no end.
F15Mech on October 3, 2007 at 7:28 PM
What makes the photograph of servicemen at Iwo Jima so special? The flag.
What was brought out on a number of atheletic events after surviving Ground Zero…including the Olympics…to applause and tears? The flag.
To what do we “Pledge Allegiance”? The flag.
What conspicuously adorns the casket of brave, fallen soldiers? The flag.
What’s the most important line in our National Anthem?
“…that our flag was still there.”
It ain’t called the Star-Spangled Banner for nuttin’.
To say it’s “just a piece of cloth”? I don’t understand…
JetBoy on October 3, 2007 at 7:30 PM
And the flag is a physical manifestation of our country. It has meaning. Obviously its meaning is lost on you — but that’s because of your bias and agenda.
eanax on October 3, 2007 at 7:31 PM
Another vet for Kerry to stab in the back. Go John Go!
americaslaststand on October 3, 2007 at 7:34 PM
He cant help himself, like so many youths of today, indoctrinated by the liberal/socialist American public education system he has grown up brevet of a true moral compass.
doriangrey on October 3, 2007 at 7:38 PM
F15Mech on October 3, 2007 at 7:28 PM
JetBoy on October 3, 2007 at 7:30 PM
Well said both. There are few things I enjoy more than seeing Old Glory waving in the wind, especially lit up at night. It is fabric, of course…but it, like all things, is given value by it’s meaning. Long may she wave.
Spirit of 1776 on October 3, 2007 at 7:39 PM
*Salutes*
RushBaby on October 3, 2007 at 7:40 PM
ZZ Top, Eat your heart out!
americaslaststand on October 3, 2007 at 7:44 PM
I’ll never patronize that cantina again !!!!
gary on October 3, 2007 at 7:44 PM
I’ve never thought to assess this at all even after I came back from Nam.. I’m wondering, based on this feed, who has served and , I might add, been in combat. Of those, how many see the US flag as a piece of cloth and how many see and believe in the symbolism. If it’s as I suspect, how have we, the ones who served and bled, lost so much so soon from our fellow citizens. Funny thing is, I’ll still stand in front of those who have no sense of this flag and protect them from the enemy.
MNDavenotPC on October 3, 2007 at 7:49 PM
I’m still pissed about beer being called cerveza here inside our borders. You call my beer cerveza and you best protect your balls. Next to the flag my beer will not be insulted.
God Bless out Vets!!
americaslaststand on October 3, 2007 at 7:53 PM
I haven’t served in the military. Personally, I have mixed feelings about doing so myself. But, I have friends who have served, and other friends who are serving. I am proud of them for what they have done.
Even without personally serving I still understand the meaning of the flag. I can never see it as a mere piece of cloth as Enrique and Nonfactor do. I agree with what others have said in regards to the flag being a manifestation of our country. Seeing our flag wave always brings a smile to my face. Seeing a Mexican flag above a US flag within our own borders causes me to puke. Jim Brossard has my support as well. He did the right thing.
Oh, and as far as the “immoral” law bit that AP and others were arguing about goes. If a law is ever put forth within the US that says that I cannot read my Bible, or pray to God our Father in Heaven, or go to a church I will most definitely DISOBEY!
j_ehman on October 3, 2007 at 8:09 PM
Its only a bad word when it refers to the united states of america.
and the point has been made people are getting sick and tired of this bs.
you allow it and at a point it becomes expected. Do not mistake kindness for weakness, and thats what these pro illegal, pro open borders, Mexican nationalist think.
Americans are weak they wont do anything , we can say what we want, do what we want, and to hell with them and their country.
Time to stand up be counted and take the country back. I would not be surprised if the back lash to this bar owner might be somthing he wasn’t expecting.
Its going to get real ugly real quick I think.
Mojack420 on October 3, 2007 at 8:19 PM
The best answer I can come up with is that few schools say the “Pledge of Allegiance” anymore.
I was born in 1973 and (for obvious reasons) I don’t remember the culture back then. However when a generation of kids are brought up by parents that did not respect this country back then, what are they/or their kids going to think today?
I was lucky and raised by a mom and dad that instilled a certain level of love/pride for country in me. The military took it to the next level.
Funny thing I will also…
F15Mech on October 3, 2007 at 8:27 PM
Maybe the klan and skinheads might start hanging out there. Or a Tony Soprano type and their crew
jed58 on October 3, 2007 at 8:28 PM
What’s Spanish for: Now you’se can’t leave
JetBoy on October 3, 2007 at 8:32 PM
F15Mech, MNDavenotPC, all who served and currently serve in the military so that we can pontificate, and even make fools of ourselves, THANK YOU for your sacrifices so that we can do that. You are simply the best! Ans so are your families!
One of my neighbors fly a flag non-stop, day and night (incorrectly because it’s not lit at night). From the Pacific winds it shreds or frazzles. When they’re out of town and ask me to pick up their mail, I always buy a new flag and replace the torn one. They’ve never noticed and I will never tell them.
Entelechy on October 3, 2007 at 8:34 PM
You’re absolutely 100% right. This man shouldn’t be feted on TV as a hero. But I can understand his appeal. Bold gestures appeal to many people regardless of political affinity.
aengus on October 3, 2007 at 8:45 PM
That’s. Just. Awesome.
RushBaby on October 3, 2007 at 8:47 PM
Like him or hate him, please remember, his last name is spelled Brossard, not Broussard.
John from WuzzaDem on October 3, 2007 at 8:50 PM
Never served, couldn’t pass the physical. That said, however I come from a pretty old American Family, pre-United States in fact. Someone from every generation in my family has served in the United States Military since before the Revolutionary War. My family arrived here in the early 1600’s as Whalers. We have in the last 230 years collected way more than our “fair share” of those flags.
The United States Flag is far more than a simple piece of cloth, it is a symbol of the heroic and courageous nature of the great republic. Those red strips on that flag are not there for no reason, they symbolize the blood shed founding the great republic. For me they symbolize my families blood.
doriangrey on October 3, 2007 at 8:50 PM
They aren’t subject to anything. You just show up and then after a while the Senate waves you through.
aengus on October 3, 2007 at 8:50 PM
Entelechy,
You just made my night…
When a legal immigrant loves this country to the degree you do, and knows the proper why to “fly a piece of cloth that does not mean anything” at night…
I assume you are only replacing the flag because it is worn (and does not look good in the neighborhood) :D
What can I say…
My short time was nothing compared to you leaving your “homeland” and coming to the US legally.
F15Mech on October 3, 2007 at 8:50 PM
Perhaps this
bardump will be on the next red and white poker run . I would be more then willing to take a putt up there for that .Mojack420 on October 3, 2007 at 8:55 PM
While I don’t like driving 55.
Since my cars top speed is 155 (thats when the governor kicks in) I think I should be able to drive at 150.
Please, do you think he knew he was breaking the law and yet still decided to do it, and is willing to accept the consequences?
Call it a one man civil protest.
Or compare it to a peaceful demonstration where some people are willing to get arrested for trespassing.
I am sure he is aware that he may face possible arrest when he did it, and was willing to do it anyway.
The sad thing…if he had more of a crowd with him (like maybe a few Columbia students at a Gilchrist speech) the chances of him facing legal punishment would be alot less.
F15Mech on October 3, 2007 at 9:14 PM
I would like to see the guys who say that the flag is just a piece of cloth tell their finance that a diamond ring is just a rock or a marriage licence is just a piece of paper.
Hope the garage isn’t too cold tonight.
MB4 on October 3, 2007 at 9:24 PM
Your attitute about our Nation’s Flag makes me sick!! It’s opinions like yours that pisses on each and every person that fought and died for this nation!!!! Can you tell me what the Stars and Stripes stand for? The meaning behind the special way it’s folded? If your chest doesn’t swell with pride or your heart doesn’t beat a little faster when you see Old Glory waving in the breeze then there IS something wrong with this Great Country I call home!!
ChrisIansNana on October 3, 2007 at 9:57 PM
You’re just kidding me – I don’t care how it looks in the neighborhood – it bothers me that it flies while being torn, and neglected.
No way F15Mech, while I have suffered in life, I’ve never risked my life to protect a country to be free, a good chunk of its populace being irrational. You are the ones, and let’s not dispute that, not one bit.
MB4, you funny man, great analogies. Fiancé/wife might grant at least the couch :)
ChrislansNana, who’s “your” in your first sentence?
Hard as it might be, we can all agree that the flag and the laws s/b respected, and that there will always be ignoramuses around so that we can have future threads.
Entelechy on October 3, 2007 at 10:13 PM
So I wonder what would happen if a lefty ANYONE defaced a war memorial?
tarpon on October 3, 2007 at 5:24 PM
Depends on where it happens.
eanax on October 3, 2007 at 7:22 PM
i see two bluehaired grandmothers with their ford 250 four wheel drives.
one headed east one headed west.
the miscreant tied in between.
too many of us have raised our right hand and sworn to protect and defend the symbols of our nation and the nation for which they stand.
our symbols and traditions make us what we are.
C
pk on October 3, 2007 at 10:16 PM
Jim Brossard is not the kind of guy that would stand by while students pledged allegiance to the Mexican flag at an American school assembly either.
“The world is a dangerous place, not because of those who do evil, but because of those who look on and do nothing.”
Albert Einstein.
“All that is necessary for evil to succeed is that good men do nothing.”
Edmond Burke
Speakup on October 3, 2007 at 10:18 PM
Why?
JiangxiDad on October 3, 2007 at 10:38 PM
Entelechy on October 3, 2007 at 10:13 PM
blockquote> I think we can be secure enough about our country to not get all pissy when someone doesn’t respect our flag. I love America, but the flag? It’s just a piece of cloth.
Enrique on October 3, 2007 at 5:25 PM
Your attitute about our Nation’s Flag makes me sick!! It’s opinions like yours that pisses on each and every person that fought and died for this nation!!!! Can you tell me what the Stars and Stripes stand for? The meaning behind the special way it’s folded? If your chest doesn’t swell with pride or your heart doesn’t beat a little faster when you see Old Glory waving in the breeze then there IS something wrong with this Great Country I call home!!
ChrisIansNana on October 3, 2007 at 9:57 PM
ChrisIansNana on October 3, 2007 at 10:38 PM
shoot!! I messed up the quote thing again. Sorry!!
ChrisIansNana on October 3, 2007 at 10:40 PM
ChrislansNana, don’t worry about the quote thing. I understand your sentiments/feelings, totally. Just wondered who’s comment/s you had in mind. Regards,
Entelechy on October 3, 2007 at 10:41 PM
Entelechy, I guess I should have used the preview button, eh? Thanks!
ChrisIansNana on October 3, 2007 at 10:46 PM
If this man is charged with theft but the people living in this city illegally are allowed to continue living there after having broken our immigration laws, wouldn’t this be an unequal application of the law? Or for that to be the case do the two crimes have to be the same?
Rose on October 3, 2007 at 10:48 PM
Want to make a bet on that?
jed58 on October 3, 2007 at 11:12 PM
I was not kidding you, however I was joking, and using you as an example to all the idiots the think “the flag is just a piece of cloth.”
OK this is a new twist…2 people are debating on who serves this country “better”, each one is saying the other person does (maybe this happens on the liberal boards).
I think we are going to have to agree to disagree.
BTW I still admire you and thank you.
F15Mech on October 3, 2007 at 11:22 PM
serves = served
F15Mech on October 3, 2007 at 11:25 PM
Had to fix that.
F15Mech on October 3, 2007 at 11:32 PM
F15Mech on October 3, 2007 at 11:22 PM
Thank You! And, thanks :)
Can’t remember F15Mech if I ever asked you – is your HA handle related to airplanes? With best regards,
Entelechy on October 3, 2007 at 11:51 PM
Yes my HA handle is related to my time in the USAF working with F-15 avionics.
F15Mech on October 4, 2007 at 12:24 AM
Just another example of the rampant invasion of our country by the mexicans.They have no fear of flying the mexican flag over ol glory… Wonder how long an American flag would fly over the mexican flag in mexico??? How long are you going to take it AMERICA?? It is time to end this insanity!! PATRIOTS TO THE FRONT!!
build the wall on October 4, 2007 at 8:35 AM
Maybe that’s why traffic has “collapsed”.
Redhead Infidel on October 4, 2007 at 9:25 AM
Maybe the match needed to fire up another Civil War, only this time all the states North of the Rio Grande get to play on the Union side. Then we can take care of Canada and we can all be Johnny Rebs! Woo-Hoo!!
serenity on October 4, 2007 at 10:28 AM
Jim Brossard
Doing the job Michael Chertoff is to scared to do
Mojack420 on October 4, 2007 at 12:53 PM
The “US flag is just a pieace of cloth”…more liberal rhetoric to downgrade the greatest country in history of the world. The flag is America in all it’s glory.
Liberalism is a cancer that grows untill death arrives.
oldernslower on October 4, 2007 at 1:59 PM
If the american flag is just a piece of cloth then what is the mexican flag? How about other flags….. irish,english,german,french,japenese,chinese,vietmese,north korean,south korean,irani,iraqi,israeli…..the list is endless.
Why is Jim Brossard guilty? He stole an american flag and destroyed a mexican flag. So what. Let him pay for the loss to the owner.
It just seems to me that the u.s. flag has become worthless yet the mexican flag is valued. By who? I want to know why a mexican flag in the u.s. is more protected in the united state than any other. I am irish yet it would never occure to me to fly the flag of ireland above the american flag. Or to fly it all. Do you know why? I am not an irishman but an american.
When a person flies a flag they are saying something. If a person flies the mexican flag above the u.s. flag they are saying that I AM A MEXICAN living in the u.s.
Flags are not just a piece of cloth but an expression of self.
USMC ‘65-’72.
TomLawler on April 9, 2008 at 1:29 PM
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