Fred is radioactive and his star power isn’t getting him anywhere.
BKennedy on October 2, 2007 at 8:05 AM

Fred leads in South Carolina.

Yup, he’s sunk alright.

If life were fair, Hunter, Huckabee and Thompson would be the front-runners, but it wasn’t to be, and nothing is going to change that.

Hollowpoint on October 1, 2007 at 9:04 PM

Question Hollowpoint: How does it strike you that Fred Thompson fought hard and long for a bill that says you can’t mention your much-hated “gun grabbers” like Guiliani by name in an ad if it is too close to the primary or the general?

Quite frankly, Fred is radioactive and his star power isn’t getting him anywhere. Fred should have waited longer. If he announced as a Christmas present in December, he might have been able to coast.

Didn’t Fred help catch a Russian sub during the Cold War?

And seriously- “a guy named Ponnuru”??? You should, like, read more. What next- “a guy named Buckley”?

Hollowpoint on October 2, 2007 at 1:19 AM

That was meant to be humorous… The point I was making was that the only thing that Mulhern could find that commends Fred for the job was that Fred sounded impressive talking federalism with a fellow conservative. That might be impressive for high school debate class but in that arena, Rudy is in a totally different class. Rudy has matched wits with the likes of Ivan Boesky and Michael Milken while fortunes were on the line. Then he crossed the likes of Anthony “Fat Tony” Salerno, Paul “Big Paul” Castellano, Carmine “Junior” Persico, Anthony “Tony Ducks” Corallo, and Philip “Rusty” Rastelli — the bosses of the five families — when a lot more than money was on the line. Rudy has a long and established history of matching wits with some of the most intelligent and ruthless criminal minds of the 20th century, while Fred discusses federalism with Ponnuru or goes after low hanging fruit like Michael Moore.

Rudy was right about Fred, he did a good job playing Rudy for Hollywood.

Like all Fredhead talking point memos, the first half is spent talking about the competition. Not, why Fred should be elected President, but why the other guys shouldn’t. That, of course, by process of elimination, leaves Fred as the only man alive to be President.
tommylotto on October 1, 2007 at 9:12 PM

Unlike yourself of course, who spams dishonest one-liners about why Fred shouldn’t be the nominee without mentioning why your favorite RINO Rudy should.

But yeah- a lot of us aren’t happy with Rudy, Romney or McCain, so that pretty much leaves one front-runner left now, doesn’t it?

And seriously- “a guy named Ponnuru”??? You should, like, read more. What next- “a guy named Buckley”?

Politics (as well as life) is NEVER perfect and is all about making the best with what is available at any given time.
omnipotent on October 1, 2007 at 8:27 PM

That is not to say you have to shut up and be happy about it.
SIJ6141 on October 1, 2007 at 8:47 PM

Good news: nobody cares whether or not you’re happy. And, thanks to the miracle of the Internet, you can scream in public like a colicky baby pretty much indefinitely.

But I’m not buying any of this Dunkin Hunter, Mitt Romney noise. You guys are just pulling names out of hats. There is only one Only Man Who Can Save America. And all of his supporters sound exactly the same to me.

That is not to say you have to shut up and be happy about it.

SIJ6141 on October 1, 2007 at 8:47 PM

Bitching or sitting out an election ain’t exactly “taking the bull by the horns” now is it?

Then he claims Fred is smarter than a guy named “Ponnuru”, as if that is supposed to impress me.

tommylotto on October 1, 2007 at 9:12 PM

If you don’t know who Ramesh Ponnuru is, then it’s NO surprise that Rino Rudy is your guy.

Why Thompson Will Win

Hollowpoint on October 1, 2007 at 3:49 PM

Look closely at that article. Like all Fredhead talking point memos, the first half is spent talking about the competition. Not, why Fred should be elected President, but why the other guys shouldn’t. That, of course, by process of elimination, leaves Fred as the only man alive to be President. Then he references Dick Morris’ article merely to dismiss it without addressing any of the serious points raised in it. Then he admits that Fred has never ran anything, but he dismisses that criticism because we are not electing a “manager in chief”, whatever the heck that means. Then he claims Fred is smarter than a guy named “Ponnuru”, as if that is supposed to impress me. Then he criticizes the other candidates again and finishes with a flourish about Fred’s voice and folky style. I kept waiting for the money shot when he explains why Fred is qualified to be President. I’m still waiting.

Hunter has all the principles that I support but I know that you people cannot look past Rudy/Fred. Neither of them is a true conservative. At the end one o0f them will be the candidate and most probably I’ll make the same mistake as with Bush. I just wish I have a better choice.

SIJ6141 on October 1, 2007 at 8:21 PM

Guessed it on my second choice at least.

Quite a few of us are unhappy with who turned out to be the top 4 candidates, but reality is reality. Hunter is a conservative who would probably make a good president (though he goes too far on some social issues- leave Internet poker alone!).

However, nominating a candidate who would almost certainly loose serves the conservative cause not one bit. You can blame the media, the early primary campaign, bloggers or whomever all you like, but the fact remains that he just hasn’t run a good campaign for whatever the reason, plus he wasn’t very inspiring in the debates, even if his message was on target.

When a conservative with no major skeletons in the closet can’t muster more than 2% support amongst Republicans, there’s no other way around it. He has 1/3 the support Huckabee does, and Huckabee was no more well known than Hunter.

Fred ain’t perfect, but if you look beyond the headlines, read what he’s written and review his record, I don’t think any reasonable person could conclude that he’s not a conservative, though perhaps not the hard core social con that some would prefer. Then again, Bush is solidly socially conservative, but I think we’d agree that he’s not represented conservative values well at all.

If life were fair, Hunter, Huckabee and Thompson would be the front-runners, but it wasn’t to be, and nothing is going to change that.

SIJ6141 on October 1, 2007 at 8:21 PM

Politics (as well as life) is NEVER perfect and is all about making the best with what is available at any given time.

Hell, I’d love to mix and match the best characteristics of various GOP candidates to make a “Super Candidate” but I live in the real world (sky is blue) not Ron Paul’s.

The truth cares not one wit for what it “FAIR” it is what it is…….

doriangrey on October 1, 2007 at 8:10 PM

Derrrr…….The truth cares not one wit for what is “FAIR” it is what it is…….

Got to learn to use that dad burned preview button.

That’s a bit unfair- I’m guessing we’ve been visited by a Ronbot, though they usually make it very obvious that RON PAUL is the only man who can save America!!!11!!1!

If I’m wrong, a Duncan Hunter supporter is my second choice- I’d back Hunter over Rudy, Romney or McCain, but given how ineffectual his campaign has been he’s pretty much a dead horse at this point.

Hollowpoint on October 1, 2007 at 7:25 PM

The truth cares not one wit for what it “FAIR” it is what it is…….

So you are going to vote for Hillary, good for you, now don’t let the door hit you in the a$$ on the way out.

doriangrey on October 1, 2007 at 7:14 PM

That’s a bit unfair- I’m guessing we’ve been visited by a Ronbot, though they usually make it very obvious that RON PAUL is the only man who can save America!!!11!!1!

If I’m wrong, a Duncan Hunter supporter is my second choice- I’d back Hunter over Rudy, Romney or McCain, but given how ineffectual his campaign has been he’s pretty much a dead horse at this point.

For our next President I am NOT going to vote for a person just because I think he is the better of two evils. I must be comfortable that he will do the right things. Again sorry but Rudy/Fred/Mitt/John do not cut it for me. I am not going the same mistake as with our last President.

SIJ6141 on October 1, 2007 at 5:59 PM

So you are going to vote for Hillary, good for you, now don’t let the door hit you in the a$$ on the way out.

SIJ6141 on October 1, 2007 at 5:59 PM

Hello there, Mr. Irrelevant. Which also-ran do you support then?

And that’s all that matters. I call it pundit-itus. If these guys were JUST idiots, they’d be coming up with pretty much random criticisms: “Fred Thompson’s mustache is too orange, or his stilts are crooked,” etc….
logis on October 1, 2007 at 5:30 PM

My personal favorite was the pundit who decared that Thompson only had one week after he announced to make a name for himself, because after that it would be too late.

Kevin M on October 1, 2007 at 5:36 PM

Say what???

Link please…..

You know what they say about opinions… Apparently Dick Morris has one too
tommylotto on October 1, 2007 at 3:59 PM

Congratulations! You are the 10th person on the planet Earth who takes Dick Morris seriously!
Hollowpoint on October 1, 2007 at 4:12 PM

I don’t think the ‘tards even care that Dick Morris is a flaming liberal. But, of course…

HE IS ON TV!!!

And that’s all that matters. I call it pundit-itus. If these guys were JUST idiots, they’d be coming up with pretty much random criticisms: “Fred Thompson’s mustache is too orange, or his stilts are crooked,” etc….

But they don’t. Instead they all individually come up with the exact same insanely idiotic complaints, like he started too late. Well, who in the Hell came up with that brand spanking new “common sense” in the first place?

And is it a coincidence these same feebs keep saying that the world rises and sets around the addlebrained excuses for “debates” which accomplish nothing except generating puerile soundbites for the pundits to endlessly re-hash? Of course not; no real person cares. But pundits LIVE for this kind of stuff; ergo, so do the people who live to hear the pundits.

It’s the same as sports. There are always the loudmouthed idiots who’ve never been to a game, but voraciously absorb and regurgitate every word they hear the announcers say. And the less they know, the louder and more often they feel the need to repeat whatever they’ve heard most often.

The really scary thing is, it looks like some of the competitors in the politcal arena are actually taking the advice of their Marv Alberts. And man, it’s safe money betting against anybody who’s that clueless.

Uh oh- I hope this doesn’t cause too many troll anuerisms:

Why Thompson Will Win

Hollowpoint on October 1, 2007 at 3:49 PM

W00t w00t…great link…great article…hope it causes many heads to explode…..

You know what they say about opinions… Apparently Dick Morris has one too

tommylotto on October 1, 2007 at 3:59 PM

Congratulations! You are the 10th person on the planet Earth who takes Dick Morris seriously!

Why Thompson Will Win

Hollowpoint on October 1, 2007 at 3:49 PM

You know what they say about opinions… Apparently Dick Morris has one too