Silky said what?
posted at 6:02 pm on September 28, 2007 by Bryan
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Question: Can John Edwards use some of those federal matching funds he’s accepting to pay for the class action defamation lawsuit he ought to be facing over these remarks?
Campaign Spot was on this earlier and provides some useful stats for the Silky One to consider.
What if Bill O’Reilly or Rush Limbaugh had said what Edwards said? Gateway Pundit is on the same wavelength.
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Pretty stpid but he will get a pass
Win Win Win on September 28, 2007 at 6:06 PM
Love, Democrat style….
Topsecretk9 on September 28, 2007 at 6:08 PM
Saw that earlier. Double-U. Tee. Eff.
When a liberal pandering to a racial group says something almost indistinguishable from what you might expect from some trailer-dwelling white supremicist, something ain’t right.
I don’t even get what his point was supposed to be, and I’m usually pretty good about that sort of thing. Is he saying that minorities who commit crimes should be exempt from jail? That there’s no hope for the black community to better themselves?
How can anyone be so stupid? Did he huff too much hairspray or something?
Hollowpoint on September 28, 2007 at 6:13 PM
Am I missing something? What are you talking about>
otherwise… There are 302 milion people in America. We can’t help them all. Let’s help those who wish to be helped, not looking for a handout.
Mazztek on September 28, 2007 at 6:13 PM
I think he’s saying that the white man is exterminating blacks by throwing them all in prison, innocent or not.
Darth Executor on September 28, 2007 at 6:16 PM
Oh… I see now.
Like I said above, and … What will the President do? hang the hell on, chicky. What Will YOU do to stop inner city violence?? It started with you, and an END with you. Hold YOURSELF to a higher standard. that’s what all the black leaders preach. To deaf ears, apparently.
Mazztek on September 28, 2007 at 6:17 PM
has media matters chimed in on this as of yet?
lorien1973 on September 28, 2007 at 6:19 PM
Feel the Limousine Liberal love.
csdeven on September 28, 2007 at 6:22 PM
OK, after listening to what he said after, he’s still stupid but didn’t leave it at that; he did offer some solutions. And what are they? Education (because public schools are doing such a great job, we need to fund them more), and of course Universal Health Care (because street criminals are only in it to pay for health insurance). Oh, and reducing penalties for crack cocaine possession, which is a somewhat valid point… that feeds the stereotype again.
Then he goes and says something stupid again, stating that African Americans are more likely to be arrested, convicted and sentenced to capital punishment. Way to fight the stereotypes, Silky! Is stormfront.org writing your speeches for you or what?
Hollowpoint on September 28, 2007 at 6:22 PM
what the hell is silky talking about ?????
you get more time for crack because you have now gone into manufacturing.
universal health care has what to do about inner city violence?
how about the core issue 70% fatherless homes .
but hey free pass this is mtv and we know how many people that watch mtv actually vote .
Mojack420 on September 28, 2007 at 6:23 PM
I didn’t realize that all blacks are criminals waiting to be caught. Gosh, the things you can learn by listening to the sages of the Democrat Party.
windbag on September 28, 2007 at 6:23 PM
And unlike what Rush and Bill DID say over the past week, there was no coherent point to be found here whatsoever.
Hawkins1701 on September 28, 2007 at 6:26 PM
I don’t see how; not when he said that inner city blacks are more likely to be caught with crack cocaine. Even though likely statistically true, but reducing criminal sentences isn’t exactly a solution to the problem.
Hollowpoint on September 28, 2007 at 6:26 PM
Suddenly struck me as I listened to him…
You know that CONGRESS has to do all the things he’s talking about… the President cannot.
The funding, the fixing schools, the more Porbation Officers, the support groups… the President can’t initiate a single one of these programs…. these ALL have to start in Congres…
You know… Exactly where Edwards, Clinton, Obama, and others are either currently, or were in the recent past…
Sooo… they didn’t fix these problems when they actualy had the correct job to do so, how do they expect to fix these problems when they have the WRONG job?
Romeo13 on September 28, 2007 at 6:28 PM
The difference is that this whole O’Reilly controversy is a joke. It’s not based on anything.
Silky’s comment implies that he believes ALL young black men are involved in violence and crime:
This should sink him… but it won’t, because he’s a liberal… and he’s become a favorite of the far left because he’s such a liar. If he were just another anti-war candidate, the left wouldn’t really treat him like royalty, but the left feeds off of dishonesty, just like they’re always looking to defend the indefensible.
They love Edwards because he was the 1 Dem candidate in 2004 who supported all of Bush’s actions leading up to the Iraq war, said he wasn’t misled, and said he’d have acted exactly the same way Bush did. Now he’s the biggest anti-war voice in the bunch. He attacks people for taking NewsCorp money, yet took more than anyone. He attacks predatory lenders, while making money off of their activities. etc. etc. etc.
I’m not kidding, this is why the left loves him. He could hold objectionable positions like all libs do, and he’d be run of the mill… But they loooooove dishonesty so much that he became a hero by being the most shamefully dishonest candidate in the race.
Likewise, they should be FURIOUS over these comments. Instead they’ll be furious of O’Reilly’s comments when they’re taken out of context, and even if you are to buy the spin, don’t come any where close to being as offensive as Edwards’. In the end, Edwards’ racism will elevate his status with the far left.
After all, we all know that it’s the far left who’s full of elitist whites who only care about other races because pandering to minority groups is how they get elected, while in reality they’re the ones photoshopping people in blackface, etc.
Anyway, watch as the mainstream media completely ignores this… I suspect Hannity might mention it, but I doubt it will even be big on Fox.
RightWinged on September 28, 2007 at 6:33 PM
The woman asked about helping keep inner city kids from partaking crack. Edwards responds by saying that if they enforce the law that all black when would be in jail.
Did he leave his white robe on the airplane?
pedestrian on September 28, 2007 at 6:35 PM
you know, I just read this on Gateway Pundit
Hyperbloic on my part, but with the Japanese journalist murdered in Burma, the horrible situation there and then Media Matter’s and the lefty bloggers McCarthity witch hunts to shut up- all conservatives - you and me-…it’s not sounding so far fetched that could be today.
Topsecretk9 on September 28, 2007 at 6:36 PM
This pos is a freaking tool, hey silky you can’t change anyone if they don’t want to change. Jail, probation, support groups, education, universal health care wont work until the person decides they want to change and it doesn’t matter what color they are.
I speak from my own personal experience. I destroyed my health, wasted 20 years of my life and have dealt with the consequences from my actions. Then one day I figured it out, it’s not the job of anyone else to change me but it’s up to me to change myself. About the same time I figured out just how pathetic the leftist nanny state government was and is.
Some times going to Hard Knock University is the only way to learn .
Mojack420 on September 28, 2007 at 6:37 PM
Pointing out that Media Matters would have spun this is one thing. Uses Media Matters inspired gotcha game tactics to indict Silky is another.
Would Media Matters have spun this clip? Yes. Should we point it out? Yes. Should we do it to Silky? No.
We need to stake out the ideological highground and stay there. The public is discerning enough to see Media Matters for what it truly is.
Theworldisnotenough on September 28, 2007 at 6:37 PM
It was just a parody.
Darth Executor on September 28, 2007 at 6:37 PM
“We cannot build enough prisons to solve this problem.”
Oh boy. Can you imagine if it was Bill O’Reilly who said something like that? I bet that former conservative Joe Scarborough would lead every “Morning Joe” with “Let’s talk about Bill O’Reilly saying “We cannot build enough prisons to solve this problem”.
SoulGlo on September 28, 2007 at 6:37 PM
Edwards again puts the dip in sh-t.
What an complete insult to hard working, black
kids that stay in school, Have part or full time
jobs to pay there own way through school or join
the military to protect his sorry butt.
He’s a sickening ambulance chasing pig
Texyank on September 28, 2007 at 6:37 PM
They won’t. They will say anything for a vote.
Tennessee Dave on September 28, 2007 at 6:40 PM
Edwards thinks all blacks are criminals, Hillary wants to give everyone $5000 for having a baby, Dingell wants to add $.50 to a gallon of gas. Are the democrats committing suicide?
ctmom on September 28, 2007 at 6:45 PM
All the black men will be in prison or dead if we don’t act? When was the last time Silky was in an inner city neighborhood? The next time will probably be the first time.
There are two Americas we must unite: the powder cocaine users and the crack cocaine users. No long will the crackheads be discriminated if the Silky Pony is President.
I like the way he “dressed down” for the kids. Was he wearing Gucci loafers with his blue jeans?
Mallard T. Drake on September 28, 2007 at 6:48 PM
I don’t think I’m going to have to hears Edwards say “I was taken out of context.”
terryannonline on September 28, 2007 at 6:55 PM
I see nothing wrong with what Edwards is saying, wording-wise.
He’s using the same ultra-left panic line about black males being universally unjustly treated in America.
Where’s the news in this?
He ignores the root cause: that too many black (biological) fathers have abandoned their families, allowing their children to be brought up without any decent role models, and thereby are prey to being lured into bad behaviors because of no serious voice in the home is telling them that it won’t be tolerated.
It’s also the result of their neighborhood and societal African-American male role models preening and posing as irresponsible punks, thugs and criminals (even if only as a TuPac pose in order to sucker the ‘brothers’ into buying their CD’s and DVD’s and clothing line and bling).
Edwards, unlike Obama (or more seriously, Bill Cosby), doesn’t dare criticize black males.
Demonstrating that he is a weak, pandering role model himself.
profitsbeard on September 28, 2007 at 6:59 PM
what a maroon
trailortrash on September 28, 2007 at 7:10 PM
Another problem created by the libs with a solution being more government intervention.A never-ending death spiral.
bbz123 on September 28, 2007 at 7:25 PM
The point is, how dare anyone trash talk Black people?
If Bill Cosby can’t, Silky can’t.
Silkies true feelings about Blacks just slipped out.
This is the common hypocrisy of bleeding heart liberals, deep in their hearts they’re compensating for the guilt they’ve built up by thinking racist thoughts about ‘those people’ and then try to project their own racism onto others.
Liberals place themselves above Conservatives and then blame them for their own racism while continuing to subjugate minorities to feed their own self made guilt while being terrified that minorities might become equal and self sufficient and not need them after all.
Conservatives just aren’t threatened by self determined, achieving minorities, for us it’s all good.
Speakup on September 28, 2007 at 7:33 PM
I believe MKH said it best:
“That boy ain’t right, he was born without a shame bone.”
infidel4life on September 28, 2007 at 7:40 PM
How about promoting conservative strengths like family values and disciplines towards self determination.
How about reforming the K12 education system to teach subject matter material like how to balance a checkbook and not political dogma like global warming.
No! Edward’s “two Americals” will control your life. You won’t have to build the prisons, you’ll be living in them. Case Closed.
Kini on September 28, 2007 at 7:44 PM
You’re missing it profitsbeard… and I’m not just saying you, I’ve seen a few other commenters saying essentially “let’s not O’Reilly him over this”, but there’s a big difference.
Edwards wasn’t using the “blacks are universally treated unjustly” liberal line at all. See the context, he was asked a direct question about stamping out violence in the “inner cities”.
First point to note, she said “inner city”, not “black community”. Edwards went on to say that incarceration isn’t the answer, because if we keep it up all young black men will be in jail or dead. Again, she didn’t ask about young black men, but he answered stating that they’re all violent criminals, and that if something isn’t done they’ll all be in jail before long. He didn’t base that comment on “unfairness”, he based it on hist opinion that all young black men are violent criminals.
Now, he does go on to rant on his “2 Americas” bulls**t, and whine about how inner city people are more likely to be convicted of crimes and go to jail for longer sentences, etc. etc. But none of that matters, because his initial reaction her question about violence is what’s at issue here, not about “powder vs. rock cocaine” and “sentencing”, or about why employers should be actively seeking ex-cons (WTF?) etc.
He wanted to divert and go on his 2 Americas rant, hoping that he’ll pander to the “black victim” crowd, but that has nothing to do with his reaction to her question about how to stamp out youth violence in the inner city. His initial reaction was to go straight to talking about “blacks” and assert that they’re all violent criminals, because if we don’t do something they’ll all be in jail or dead.
Seriously, I’m not trying to hassle you, but I’m frustrated that you went out of your way to be “fair” when in reality you missed the real problem with what he said here, and my real frustration is with the fact that the media (if any of them even mention this) will brush this aside using that logic (what you said in your comment). It’s infuriating, because there’s no excuse for letting him off the hook here. It’s not about unfair sentencing or 2 Americas (what he talked about later), he said they’re all violent criminals, and he wasn’t even asked about blacks. What about latino gangs in LA Silky?
RightWinged on September 28, 2007 at 7:46 PM
From Dr. Thomas Sowell Oct 2005
Wade on September 28, 2007 at 7:55 PM
If a Republican said this,the smear campaign would be swift and verbally brutal,from Jesse Jackson,Al Sharpton,and the NACCAAP.I’m wondering if silky is this stupid which I think he is,or did someone want to start a an out of control brush fire.
This reminds me of a segment on the Rush Limbaugh show during the (America held hostage)Clinton administration.
Some African American Liberal polition said the reason there are so many sharks between Africa and America,was that so many were thrown over the side of the ships.
This guy came up with an astronomical number of people
(slaves,and I apoligize for using this word sincerely)that were thrown overboard,well Rush ran the numbers and it worked out to something like evey ship had to be loaded to the gills,ships had to be bumper to bumper in a line from
Africa to the United States for twenty straight years.
So ya LIBERALS will still get away with this crap,
and yes LIBERALS still want the Race Game to keep going.
canopfor on September 28, 2007 at 7:57 PM
True True. Without the race game the liberals would jeopardize huge black and Hispanic voting blocks.
Wade on September 28, 2007 at 8:07 PM
This dickweed is a poverty pimp and a race hustler. Ironic thing is that he will never live near a black family or families. Like I do.
Andy in Agoura Hills on September 28, 2007 at 8:17 PM
Does Silky answers seem to imply or assume that all blacks are guilty of something criminal?
Kini on September 28, 2007 at 8:22 PM
All that kid referred to was violence in the inner city, no mention of males, black males, crack or anything like it. Silky was looking at a black face, and subconciously (sp?)equated that with “inner city” and thus began the rant about black males.
commonsensehoosier on September 28, 2007 at 8:24 PM
Pander 101. Thank you, Silky, for all the deep thinking.
petefrt on September 28, 2007 at 8:35 PM
No, they’re so confidant of victory that they are defining a mandate to indulge in every left wet-dream that ever was.
pedestrian on September 28, 2007 at 8:37 PM
Bryan… wait 4 months or so, put this exact text in full on HA and infer a republican said it… and wait for the explosion.
shooter on September 28, 2007 at 8:42 PM
Where is Sharpton, lord of the race pimps when you need him?
spec_ops_mateo on September 28, 2007 at 8:47 PM
colmes is on fox “clarifying this stuff right now lol
trailortrash on September 28, 2007 at 9:05 PM
maybe silky has a new Class Action up his sleeve!
iam7545 on September 28, 2007 at 9:07 PM
That’s so diabolical I just might have to do it.
Bryan on September 28, 2007 at 9:09 PM
The hostess’ head is nodding like a bobblehead.
p40tiger on September 28, 2007 at 9:23 PM
His list should actually be:
1st - Give their parents vouchers.
2nd - As for teacher quality, see number 1.
3rd – MTV and BET should stop playing videos that celebrate the gangster life styles.
4th – Stop supporting programs and individuals that are encouraging the victim mentality
5th – Teach them to take responsibility for their own lives and stop believing they are owed something.
6th – Most of all, they must Stop voting for Democrats.
Zaire67 on September 28, 2007 at 9:25 PM
I don’t really have a problem with his statement. Yea it’s too general, but at least he’s saying there’s a real problem in the inner cities (even if he doesn’t recognize the cause).
I don’t care that the media isn’t reporting on it either. I just wish they’d stop branding every conservative who talks about inner city problems a racist.
BadgerHawk on September 28, 2007 at 9:38 PM
Coming on the heels of the GOP debate at Delaware State…oh, wait…none of the “REAL” candidates showed up. This kind of stuff that White liberals like Edwards believes could have been highlighted by any of the top GOP’ers last night, but nooooooooooooooooooooooo. Liberals love to generalize and paint with broad brushes, don’t they?
SouthernGent on September 28, 2007 at 9:42 PM
Cool, hope so.
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I just saw H&C and they brought this up..Michael Steele good as expected, Micheal Brown gave credit to Edwards for “saying what most whites wont” ( ) and then the bomb…. He said Edwards’ heart was in the right place. Meaning? Democrats will throw government programs and Billions of our tax dollars at this so not ‘all’ the black young men either go to jail, or die. While republicans ( and Bill Cosby) want to end the problem forever by instilling accountability and responsibility…equal for all.
shooter on September 28, 2007 at 10:02 PM
In the “Tone” category, the winner is — Andy from Agoura Hills! Yea! Woohoo! Well done, Andy!
“Jim, this was an excellent comment all around and it really just fit the post perfectly.”
“Carla, what was it about the comment that made it a winner?”
“Jim, it was Andy’s Righteous Anger mixed with verbiage from the street that I felt really ‘kept it real’ as they say. The use of the words ‘dick’, ‘pimp’, and ‘hustler’ gave us the imagery of the street that fit the ‘oppressed black minority’ theme that Edwards was attempting to frame, and giving Andy the combination he was looking for. He really nailed it!”
“Well, there it is from Agoura Hills, folks, with Andy taking the honors on this post. Back to you in the studio, Bob…”
Jaibones on September 28, 2007 at 10:09 PM
BTW, Hannity & Colmes proved my point… I took off to get a pizza, so I don’t know if it was ever addressed… but they cut out the part where the girl asks a question about the “inner city” youth violence, and Edwards made it about how all young BLACK people are criminals and will wind up dead or in jail. Long story short, further proof that Edwards will get away with it… They spent the segment talking about the “2 Americas issue”, hemming and hawing over “root causes” for problems within the black community, instead of acknowledging what Edwards really said.
RightWinged on September 28, 2007 at 10:10 PM
Wow, I drove through Agoura Hills earlier today, never suspecting I was in the presence of greatness.
infidel4life on September 28, 2007 at 10:24 PM
RightWinged, Shooter, and Canopfor nailed it, too.
RushBaby on September 28, 2007 at 11:37 PM
All I can say is small fingers,wrinkles, and messed up hair!
The guy is falling apart. Matching funds? yea that’ll help..
LOL
Nelsa on September 29, 2007 at 12:00 AM
The Sinner will no longer be joining us.
Bryan on September 29, 2007 at 12:23 AM
!!!
Z•I•N•G!
I reckon his wife has the “big” fingers in that family.
RushBaby on September 29, 2007 at 12:23 AM
I was just thinking to myself, what a fun thread. And now this! Gonna start my weekend on a buoyant note, indeed!
RushBaby on September 29, 2007 at 12:26 AM
Thanks, he was pretty obnoxious. I don’t know what he did now, but I’m glad he’s gone.
RightWinged on September 29, 2007 at 12:26 AM
That’s what he did, Randy. I was just about to unload on him myself (after sending a tip to the tip address, since I can’t ban people), but I see that Bryan already took out the trash. And I do mean trash. Bravo!
ReubenJCogburn on September 29, 2007 at 12:38 AM
Thanks Reuben. I was wondering what he did to go over the line. In his exchanges with me, he revealed how unstable and deranged he was. (BTW, The Sinner, I know you’re reading this, so I want you to know I’m dead serious. It’s not a “difference of opinion” or even a passion issue. You are clearly a troubled person, and I mean it when I say you’re unstable. I have trouble even having the sympathy to tell you to “get help”, though you should, because I feel like you’re still coherent enough that you should recognize the problem on your own.)
RightWinged on September 29, 2007 at 1:13 AM
Why is he standing on the Japanese battle flag?
Buford on September 29, 2007 at 1:46 AM
There is nothing different being done here by the pony than anything he did for years in court. He doesn’t need to believe in what he’s saying, he just needs to convince his audience, so he tells him what they want to hear.
The progressive crowd loves being pandered to, so they eat it all up.
Clinton-esque to the extreme. Bill, that is, Hillary hasn’t figured out how to pander without pissing off half the country.
mesablue on September 29, 2007 at 1:49 AM
I don’t think he’ll be joining me in Detroit any time soon.
mesablue on September 29, 2007 at 1:55 AM
Wouldn’t it be great strategy for one of the GOP candidates to now go and say the exact same thing - “soon all young black males will be either in prison or dead” - and then we could all just sit back and watch the MSM go into superhyperventilationoutrage mode, having now documented their total free pass for Edwards?
Halley on September 29, 2007 at 2:03 AM
It was a botched joke. His entire candidacy, that is.
You’d think he would have learned more about the African-American community, what with riding around in the campaign bus with John “I’m fascinated by rap and hip-hop” Kerry listening to Common and Ludacris.
saint kansas on September 29, 2007 at 5:11 AM
Commenting: ordinary people doing extraordinary things.
Jaibones on September 29, 2007 at 8:27 AM
I’m sure he’ll have Liz explaining what he meant soon.
elifino on September 29, 2007 at 10:13 AM
how about the core issue 70% fatherless homes .
Exactly. The root of the problem and the Dems NEVER bring it up? Why?
Rightwingsparkle on September 29, 2007 at 10:36 AM
Damn. I hate Lib/Democrats. Confess! EVERYTHING you did caused this situation!
Not a word about the glorification of violence in music and from Hollywood. Glorification of racism and stereotypes. Not a word about how to get rid of slums, ghettos, and housing projects. Democrat creations.
Education or re-Education. Multiculturalism has got to go. black or white, some things ain’t right. How about Universal Education? Standards?
Incentives for bad teachers to go to bad neigborhoods? Year that will work. More teachers, sure - but good ones.
The short answer “What will you do?” Vote Republican.
Agrippa2k on September 29, 2007 at 10:39 AM
My first thought exactly.
Captain Scarlet on September 29, 2007 at 12:13 PM
The “structure” those kids need already exists. It’s called family and church. How about you’n yerz stop supporting laws that contribute to the destruction of that structure.
Silky is the emptiest suit in the race. The pony needs to be put out to pasture.
Wingo on September 29, 2007 at 2:51 PM
Inner-city people are more likely to shoot over crack cocaine than suburban people over powder cocaine. I see the difference and I’m not a lawyer even. Does this mean Silky is stupid or just a political hack.
Second point: When did the President become God and have the ability to change men’s souls, specifically inner-city boys and men’s souls?
Tim Burton on September 29, 2007 at 3:44 PM
That is an easy one to answer…
Because only Dems “can save you from yourself” so that is why you have to vote for them.
F15Mech on September 29, 2007 at 6:14 PM
Well, I graduated from one of those “poor” rural schools (actually ranked 63 out of 64 Parishes, in a state that, thank God for MS and AR, was ranked 3rd from the bottom). I think I have done rather well. I have a JD and my sister has a masters in administration.
It has nothing to do with money for schools and everything to do with family support. My parents were involved with everything we did and really pushed school.
So, John, I have no idea what you are talking about. It seems I came from that America that needs your government aid and I still have seen it. It is an individual thing, not a government thing. It is called personal responsibility and it applies to everything you do it life. As I have found sometimes you have to take a job for less to get to the one that pays more.
Claimsratt on September 29, 2007 at 7:41 PM
I always love the argument that there is a sentencing different for crack vs coke.
Yes…..but what are the circumstances? Cokeheads generally have money!!! They’re not robbing liquor stores for their fix. Poor people who can’t afford coke buy crank or meth. They have no more money, so they start committing crimes to keep up the habit. While I’m sure there are few cases where bigotry is involved in sentencing, the vast majorty are not. The sentencing fits the crime.
dougless on September 30, 2007 at 12:30 PM
Using is using. How they support the habit, whether legal or not is secondary to the issue. Should sentences be similar for using drugs? Yes of course they should. But the upstanding citizens with money can also afford the legal team to get away with it - not a luxury the poor liquor robbing store meth head has.
And there is not bigotry in this. Bigotry can be directed at people of certain economic brackets, not just race.
Bradky on September 30, 2007 at 5:40 PM