KSM gets a lawyer

posted at 8:46 am on September 28, 2007 by Bryan

Along with 13 other “high value” Gitmo inmates.

WASHINGTON — Fourteen “high value” terrorism suspects at the Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, naval prison have been offered the right to ask for attorneys, The Washington Post reported.

The move could allow the suspects to join other detainees in challenging their status as “enemy combatants” in a U.S. appeals court, the newspaper reported in its Friday editions.

The prisoners include Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the alleged mastermind of the 9/11 attacks. They have had no access to lawyers while they were being held at Guantanamo or at secret CIA prisons overseas. They were transferred to the U.S. facility at Guantanamo last year.

The prisoners have been entitled to military “personal representatives” to assist them during the process that determined whether they were enemy combatants.

U.S. officials have argued against allowing the prisoners access to lawyers without special security precautions out of fear that elements of the CIA’s secret detention program or its interrogation techniques could be revealed.

Ah, they’re just worried about nothing. It’s not like we’ve had any history of a lawyer for terrorists actually helping terrorists or anything.


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A big part of the problem is that we neither try people for treason nor execute them for it. We need to grow up and realize that some things are worth dying for and some things are worth killing for. Defending our civilization–in spite of the existence of the moonbats–is one of them.

Executing some traitors would also help out our gene pool.

thuja on September 28, 2007 at 8:54 AM

to quote dr. gonzo from the greatest movie of all time,

“…even a werewolf’s entitled to legal counsel.”

ernesto on September 28, 2007 at 8:54 AM

This law was passed in 2005? How did that happen? Any background info?

And it doesn’t surprise me that the letters A C L U appear in the article. GRRRRR…

ACLUless

Timothy S. Carlson on September 28, 2007 at 8:56 AM

So the mastermind of 9/11 gets a lawyer. This must be wonderful news for Keith Olbermann and Rosie O’Donnell.

SoulGlo on September 28, 2007 at 8:58 AM

What do they need lawyers for? We already know that everyone in Gitmo is a terrorist!

Because if they weren’t terrorists, why would they be in Gitmo?

This is the same reason we don’t have lawyers in America; we only arrest and jail guilty people.

e-pirate on September 28, 2007 at 9:02 AM

So I get to pay for the legal counsel of someone who should have been executed years ago as an illegal combatant? Fantastic.

I love when terrorists and illegal aliens wrap themselves up in our constitution like a warm fuzzy blanket.

mojowire on September 28, 2007 at 9:03 AM

What can go wrong?

Two words: Lynne Stewart.

If we choose to fight the “War On Terror” in the courts, we will lose.

Mike Honcho on September 28, 2007 at 9:12 AM

I don’t mind them having lawyers to discuss their options, as long as the only options available are lethal injection, electric chair, hanging, or suicide by chewing off your genitalia and choking on them.

BohicaTwentyTwo on September 28, 2007 at 9:17 AM

Enter Ramsey Clark…

Weasel Zipper on September 28, 2007 at 9:18 AM

If we choose to fight the “War On Terror” in the courts, we will lose.

we got padilla didnt we? these are jags or jags in training that are “assisting” these detainees. its not the end of the world yet

ernesto on September 28, 2007 at 9:20 AM

This is why I love HotAir. Mention the names Lynn Stewert and Ramsey Clarke and most people have no idea who you’re talkin’ about. But not here.

Sorta O/T but not really, check out the article on the American Thinker titled “A quite triumph brewing”. Sorry, can’t (or don’t know howto) link.

Tony737 on September 28, 2007 at 9:25 AM

So, the Army and Marines could have JAG lawyers on patrols with them, so when an insurgent is captureddetained, he can be immeditely mirandized, then have access to council! Or, they could just shoot him in the first place.

Frozen Tex on September 28, 2007 at 9:28 AM

Tony737 on September 28, 2007 at 9:31 AM

test test

Tony737 on September 28, 2007 at 9:32 AM

Ok, so it’s whatever you type after the link. Sorry guys.

Americanthinker.

Tony737 on September 28, 2007 at 9:34 AM

Okay, why does he get a lawyer? He’s not a citizen of this country, and therefore has no right to a fair trial nor representation. I…just…ugh.

MadisonConservative on September 28, 2007 at 9:36 AM

eh, let’s just give ‘em laptops and cell phones in jail too, and keep ‘em busy. What could go wrong?

JetBoy on September 28, 2007 at 9:37 AM

e-pirate on September 28, 2007 at 9:02 AM

What do they need lawyers for? We already know that everyone in Gitmo is a terrorist!

Because if they weren’t terrorists, why would they be in Gitmo?

This is the same reason we don’t have lawyers in America; we only arrest and jail guilty people.

This is the primary reason why I became a 9/11 Republican: because consideratives see terrorism as part of a global war, while liberals for the most part consider it to be a matter of law enforcement.

aunursa on September 28, 2007 at 9:52 AM

we got padilla didnt we? these are jags or jags in training that are “assisting” these detainees. its not the end of the world yet

Yeah and it over five years before the U.S. even tried him. American involvement in World War II didn’t last five years.

As for KSM, he doesn’t deserve a lawyer. He deserves a firing squad. There’s no question of his complicity in the murders of thousands.

Mike Honcho on September 28, 2007 at 9:53 AM

This is why I love HotAir. Mention the names Lynn Stewert and Ramsey Clarke and most people have no idea who you’re talkin’ about. But not here.

Tony737 on September 28, 2007 at 9:25 AM

Exactly!! The biases of the MSM are more strongly expressed in what it chooses to emphasize and what it chooses to downplay, than in actual facts. When I tell people how interrogations happen at Gitmo, they are surprised to the point of disbelief. But the MSM isn’t about to explain what actually happens at Gitmo. It doesn’t suit their agenda.

This isn’t to say that the MSM doesn’t get facts wrong. There is still a strong belief in the MSM that the people at Gitmo are for the most part innocent.

thuja on September 28, 2007 at 10:05 AM

Mike Honcho on September 28, 2007 at 9:53 AM

if theres no question it shouldnt take long before he gets the chair

ernesto on September 28, 2007 at 10:08 AM

Tony737 on September 28, 2007 at 9:34 AM

Agreed. Very interesting article. I saw it this morning as well and emailed the link to HA. Not all that well-written, but not the kind of info. you’re likely to see in the MSM.

JiangxiDad on September 28, 2007 at 10:16 AM

e-pirate on September 28, 2007 at 9:02 AM

What do they need lawyers for? We already know that everyone in Gitmo is a terrorist!

Because if they weren’t terrorists, why would they be in Gitmo?

This is the same reason we don’t have lawyers in America; we only arrest and jail guilty people.

After we win this war against Islamic extremists, we can begin to consider how to deal with those in Gitmo and elsewhere who are in our custody.

JiangxiDad on September 28, 2007 at 10:21 AM

THIS GUY SHOULD BE SHOT!!! WHY THE F ARE WE GIVING HIM AND THE OTHER VERMIN LAWYERS!!!

ONCE AGAIN, BUSH IS A FAILURE

VinceP1974 on September 28, 2007 at 10:23 AM

After we win this war against Islamic extremists, we can begin to consider how to deal with those in Gitmo and elsewhere who are in our custody.
JiangxiDad on September 28, 2007 at 10:21 AM

We’re not going to win this war. Our enemies are at war. We’re giving them lawyers.

VinceP1974 on September 28, 2007 at 10:24 AM

(If one of the lawyers “accidentally” cuts off KSM’s head during a re-enactment of KSM’s treatment of Daniel Pearl, I’ll pay for his lawyer.)

Shoot ‘em when you catch ‘em.

No legal fees result.

profitsbeard on September 28, 2007 at 10:25 AM

Lynn Stewart
She is nothing but a low down, double dealing,back stabbing larcenist, perverted worm.
Hangings to good for her
Burning is too good for her
She should be torn into little bitsy pieces and buried alive.

Mojack420 on September 28, 2007 at 10:38 AM

I just wanted to say, that’s a great photoshop. I love the way you get KSM’s face on Rosie’s body.
That’s funny.

Veeshir on September 28, 2007 at 10:43 AM

We’re not going to win this war. Our enemies are at war. We’re giving them lawyers.

VinceP1974 on September 28, 2007 at 10:24 AM

We are Vincenzo. I have a wife and kids. We’re just not gonna win yet.

JiangxiDad on September 28, 2007 at 11:09 AM

I love when terrorists and illegal aliens wrap themselves up in our constitution like a warm fuzzy blanket.

mojowire on September 28, 2007 at 9:03 AM

Yeah, it get me pretty worked up too when people who are neither deserving of nor are entitled to Constitutional Rights not only get them but actually have people from our own country who are supposedly on our side fighting tooth and nail to get those Rights to them. The Left gives a higher presumption of innocence to these terrorists than they do to our own troops when they’re accused (usually falsly) of any wrong doing.

Yakko77 on September 28, 2007 at 11:33 AM

We are Vincenzo. I have a wife and kids. We’re just not gonna win yet.

JiangxiDad on September 28, 2007 at 11:09 AM

I of course hope you’re right. I’m not as optimistic. I think it’s inevitible that they’re going to nuke our major cities (plural… not just one.. why people always assume only ONE city is going to get nuked is a mystery to me).

Our country will be a smoldering ruin. I could care less about the retailiation, it wont undo what would have been done.

We’re too feeble to proactively eliminate the threat.

Example: WHY hasn’t Iran been attacked yet? What is this fantasy about diplomacy or sanctions or hoping for a revolution or worrying about foreign public opinion.

Does anyone here really think Iran is going to back down willingly?

If we had real leadership and real men running the country, Iran would have been attacked last year when we issued our red lines and Iran walked all over them.

We’re not going to “win”. We’re going to be hit, devastatingly hard. That’s their objective. That’s how we lose.

VinceP1974 on September 28, 2007 at 11:34 AM

VinceP1974 on September 28, 2007 at 11:34 AM

Maybe we don’t fundamentally disagree. I think we’re just discussing the price.

JiangxiDad on September 28, 2007 at 11:47 AM

So, the Army and Marines could have JAG lawyers on patrols with them,…

Frozen Tex on September 28, 2007 at 9:28 AM

This kind of the point. The Gitmo detainees do have legal counsel, just not ACLU lawyers.

The military (JAG) has told them and informed them of their rights, which is basically that they don’t have any, which opens the door for the ACLU to make another mockery of American Legal Sovereignty.

Question is, are we going to just sit back and watch the ACLU have their way with this?

Lawrence on September 28, 2007 at 12:13 PM

I think we should have every soldier carry around with them a little torture kit. Waterboarding to go if you will. We should have no intention on capturing these monsters once caught on the battlefield, out of uniform, attempting to murder our soldiers. We should torture them for any and all info that will be helpful in our attempts to kill others like them. We should not bring them home and give them lawyers. After we are done torturing them for info we should shoot them on the spot. The whole process would only take 10 minutes at most. I would happily endorse that policy aside from my concern that it just might be too humane for murderous scum like KSM.

Zetterson on September 28, 2007 at 12:37 PM

Ok, so it’s whatever you type after the link. Sorry guys.

Americanthinker.

Tony737 on September 28, 2007 at 9:34 AM

Thanks Tony. That was an excellent read. I remember the reports of the jihadis leaving the training camps en masse being reported as the prelude pattern to another major attack like 9/11.

Good to know the miserable bastards were being lured into Tora Bora for methodical extermination. This could indeed change things for the better re aq.

techno_barbarian on September 28, 2007 at 2:43 PM

It’s a pity that when KSM gets the noose, we won’t get to see it like we did with Sodomy Hussein. I’d like to see this bastard hung with piano wire.

thejackal on September 28, 2007 at 7:51 PM

the jackal-

I’d like to see this bastard hung with piano wire.

I have a 12 peg guitar that needs re-stringing.

Why disturb a poor piano?

profitsbeard on September 29, 2007 at 8:56 PM