Catfight: Rather hits back at Couric

posted at 4:40 pm on September 27, 2007 by Bryan

I’m just posting this for the comments.

Couric, whose newscast is mired in third place, also slammed Rather for his “60 Minutes II” report questioning George W. Bush’s service in the Texas Air National Guard in the 1970s.

The report, which aired just before Bush sought reelection in 2004, was discredited – and led to Rather’s eventual ouster from CBS News.

“There were things in there that were quite egregious in terms of how it was reported,” Couric said of the report.

“And sloppy work is sloppy work.”

“I don’t believe Ms. Couric knows all the facts,” Rather told The Post yesterday.

“When they come out, she may well change her mind.”

So, Dan, we’ll finally learn who Lucy Ramirez was? And how a font that wasn’t available in the 70s turned up on those documents of yours?


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To paraphrase Catherine Tate’s “Lauren” character,

“TAKE THE SHAME, DAN.”

Mindcrime on September 27, 2007 at 4:43 PM

Two America hating losers sluggin’ it out …

darwin on September 27, 2007 at 4:44 PM

“I don’t believe Ms. Couric knows all the facts,” Rather told The Post yesterday.

I agree with Rather, Couric doesn’t have all the facts if she thinks it was just “sloppy work”. It was a dishonest hit piece based on fake documents designed to affect a presidential election.

forest on September 27, 2007 at 4:47 PM

“I don’t believe Ms. Couric knows all the facts,” Rather told The Post yesterday.
“When they come out, she may well change her mind.”

Ahhhhhhh, the pinnacle of American “journalism” – after the fact promises to factually set forth your position.

Did Orwell get into this?

OhEssYouCowboys on September 27, 2007 at 4:48 PM

Old soldiers anchormen never die, they just fade flail away
- General Douglas MacArthur Dan “Forged but Accurate” Rather

MB4 on September 27, 2007 at 4:49 PM

Gunga Dan is going Gunga Down…

omnipotent on September 27, 2007 at 4:50 PM

This picture proves that there was a second gunman. It was Dan Rather.

jihadwatcher on September 27, 2007 at 4:51 PM

Infighting among the Dems, now among the MSMers. Hot Dog! Must be time for some kind of harmonic convergence.

Bryan, awesome pic of Danno.

Brat on September 27, 2007 at 4:52 PM

I posted last week “be careful what you wish for.”

Yesterday I saw that one party to this suit, I think Rather, wants to take President Bush’s deposition. I consider it possible that this is a manufactured lawsuit, with the end game being to try to put Bush under oath about the TANG situation.

Labamigo on September 27, 2007 at 4:53 PM

breaking news:

Ahmadinejad Invites U.N. Inspectors to Search for Homosexuals

pedestrian on September 27, 2007 at 4:55 PM

Has Dan got a sight-line to the Evening News studios?

eeyore on September 27, 2007 at 5:00 PM

breaking news:

Ahmadinejad Invites U.N. Inspectors to Search for Homosexuals

pedestrian on September 27, 2007 at 4:55 PM

France objects to search. Threatens to veto any Security Council action.

OhEssYouCowboys on September 27, 2007 at 5:04 PM

Red on Red, baby!

SWLiP on September 27, 2007 at 5:07 PM

Dan’s paid for better fraudulent documents. Somebody found a vintage font.

stonemeister on September 27, 2007 at 5:09 PM

Ahmadinejad Invites U.N. Inspectors to Search for Homosexuals

They won’t find a thing. They were all buried in the Syrian desert next to Saddam’s WMD.

JiangxiDad on September 27, 2007 at 5:09 PM

Dan Rather going so far out of his way to make an even bigger fool of himself and starting an MSM catfight… wow, is there anything Karl Rove can’t do?

Hollowpoint on September 27, 2007 at 5:10 PM

What’s the frequency, Katie?

bloggless on September 27, 2007 at 5:13 PM

Note to Dan – gracious living/dying is called “gracious” for good reasons.

Note from Katie “I’m trying hard to be as curageous as Dan”.

Entelechy on September 27, 2007 at 5:19 PM

And how a font that wasn’t available in the 70s turned up on those documents of yours?

No, no, no, no, no, Bryan! That font was available in the early 70′s on everyday typewriters available to everyone! Of course, said typewriters cost about ten grand in 1970′s money (which translates to what? About half a million in today’s money?), and probably took a professional printer to run the thing. Makes total sense that a little Air National Guard armory would just happen to have one!

/sarc

crazy_legs on September 27, 2007 at 5:21 PM

Dan’s decision to sue baffled me until I looked at the HuffPo post HotAir linked to and I now think I understand what he is thinking.
One of the most infuriating things about the Left is that they refuse to acknowledge ever being wrong. Disprove any point they have made, and they stick their fingers in their ears and start singing the Smurfs’ theme song. We see it everyday….”Bush lied…no al Qaeda in Saddam’s Iraq…..the documents weren’t proven forgeries” and so on. Every one of those statements, and countless others, has been disproven, yet the Left repeats them like mantras.
I think Dan has been reading too many of the Left blogs and columns, and he’s fallen into the mindset. Now, once you realize that he cannot/will not acknowledge the documents to have been fake, there must be some other reason that CBS threw him under the bus. And since he can’t really blame Bush directly, he finds the only way to blame Bush indirectly…by claiming he bullied the CBS bosses to get rid of him. The complete lack of evidence for such a position is, of course, no problem, as the logic must be infallable. Ergo, revenge lawsuit.

Lancer on September 27, 2007 at 5:23 PM

Dan Rather’s quest for the “truth” kinda reminds me of O.J. Simpson’s quest for the “real killers.”

Jim-Rose on September 27, 2007 at 5:42 PM

I have a T-shirt with Dan’s Face and underneath it says

I fought the BLOG and the BLOG won!

400lb Gorilla on September 27, 2007 at 5:51 PM

Mindcrime on September 27, 2007 at 4:43 PM

LOL

VinceP1974 on September 27, 2007 at 6:01 PM

It is never wise
To criticize
And make lesser
Your predecessor.

T J Green on September 27, 2007 at 6:02 PM

Yeah it was sloppy and CBS put it on the air anyway.

aengus on September 27, 2007 at 6:16 PM

AP finally get a day off?

I haven’t read all the posts and comments. Maybe I missed something.

jaime on September 27, 2007 at 6:19 PM

“I don’t believe Ms. Couric knows all the facts,” Rather told The Post yesterday.
“When they come out, she may well change her mind.”

When will the facts come out? Right after Kerry discloses his entire military records?

Wade on September 27, 2007 at 6:22 PM

To quote Andrew Levy, you’d think Dan Rather would know that “it is better to tart up the news than make up the news”.

Hawkins1701 on September 27, 2007 at 6:24 PM

I vaguely remember a bit about the Lucy Ramirez scenario. This (via Bryan) is new info for me though:

According to CNN.com [4]:

In order to protect Ramirez from being traced as the source of the memos through DNA on the documents, Burkett then burned the original documents after making copies of them, Van Os said. He later gave the copies to CBS News, identifying someone other rather than Ramirez as the source.

CNN has not been able confirm Burkett’s scenario of how he came to be in possession of the documents.

Bwahahahahaha. I wonder if Billy Jeff helped make up that whopper.

Buy Danish on September 27, 2007 at 6:26 PM

breaking news:

Ahmadinejad Invites U.N. Inspectors to Search for Homosexuals

pedestrian on September 27, 2007 at 4:55 PM
France objects to search. Threatens to veto any Security Council action.

OhEssYouCowboys on September 27, 2007 at 5:04 PM

As does China, claiming it will violate the Iranian government’s human rights. Russia has no comment at this time.

Rick on September 27, 2007 at 7:04 PM

It was not just the font, but it was also superscript, proportional fonts, and kerning.

It was the world of difference between the IBM correcting Selectric with Legal Courier in the 1970′s and Microsoft Word with 12 point Times Roman in 2004.

Charles Johnson was and still is our hero.

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=12582_CBS_Killian_Document_Index

Dan Rather and Mary Mapes are idiots who were and still are suffering from BDS. They cannot admit to themselves that they were conned by Burkett.

slp on September 27, 2007 at 7:49 PM

It is never wise
To criticize
And make lesser
Your predecessor.

T J Green on September 27, 2007 at 6:02 PM

Very clever.
However,
Pot calling kettle black
Is kinda slack.

Jumping on Rather
Is mostly blather
When coming from a shady
Schmuck like Katie.

hillbillyjim on September 27, 2007 at 9:04 PM

Show of hands-who else here never watches Dan or Katie? Hmmmm. Untold millions of bright, happy individuals. You can put your hands down now. Thank you.

Doug on September 27, 2007 at 9:13 PM

Two America hating losers sluggin’verbally slapping it out …
darwin on September 27, 2007 at 4:44 PM

Come on neither one of them has the backbone to slug anything out, it’s much easier to talk a big game from the safety of there politically correct sanctuary in the leftist MSM.

Mojack420 on September 27, 2007 at 9:29 PM

Will there be a pay per view of this catfight,
wait a minute in light of dogfighting,isn,t
catfighting illegal or only in some states.Hehe.

canopfor on September 27, 2007 at 10:14 PM

What is the frequency, Kenneth?

Neo on September 27, 2007 at 11:28 PM

Picture two scorpions in a bottle. One’s named Rather. The other’s named Couric. Both will sting each other to death, we fervently hope, and this would be a “Good Thing. ™”

Labamigo wrote: “Yesterday I saw that one party to this suit, I think Rather, wants to take President Bush’s deposition. I consider it possible that this is a manufactured lawsuit, with the end game being to try to put Bush under oath about the TANG situation.”

What would be the point at this time? The election is over, and Bush cannot run for reelection. Nothing Bush did, or did not do, during his TANG days has any bearing upon his performance as President today. Even if he was AWOL (and it is clear to me he wasn’t) it cannot possibly be considered an impeachable offense today, especially considering his predecessor was an admitted DRAFT DODGER who fled the country rather than serve.

So what would be the point of manufacturing a law suit to entrap Bush? It wouldn’t resurrect Rather’s career nor his integrity, as the documents he presented on TV were clearly forged.

Anyway, I’m not exactly sure how Rather could even get a deposition from the Bush about his TANG service when all Bush has to do is provide his already publicly available DD214. Bush would be an outside party to the law suit as it stands, unless Rather adds Bush as a defendant. Bush’s lawyers (and he’d have the very best his money could buy, he’s independently wealthy, you know) would quash any questions in a deposition not related to Rather’s claim that Bush put pressure on CBS to fire him. And even then, without Bush being a defendant, whatever Bush did or didn’t do is irrelevant to Rather’s claim against CBS.

In other words, even if Bush personally told Summer Redstone to fire Rather’s ass, so what? CBS/VIACOM punished Rather, not Bush, because there was no employment relationship between Bush and Rather.

Now, if Rather sued Bush for tortuous interference, well, that’d be another story. But, as I understand it, Bush, personally, is not a defendant in the suit.

That’s my 20 Colones.

georgej on September 28, 2007 at 3:36 AM

We can only hope the justice department watches Dan’s trial closely. Trying to influence a federal election through fraudelant means is a felony. Hopefully Dan and CBS will give up enough information to hang themselves. It would be great to see Dan and that foul Mary Mapes do a perp walk.

I know it’s wishful thinking. The justice department doesn’t prosecute anyone in the political or media elite.

peacenprosperity on September 28, 2007 at 6:52 AM

They were all buried in the Syrian desert next to Saddam’s WMD.

Now ain’t that sumthin’? There’s a story that got lost in the ether. The whole WMD thing was totally obvious solution, but people still talk about how there were no WMD’s in Iraq. Thanks for getting my blood pressure up for the day.

samuelrylander on September 28, 2007 at 10:29 AM

The whole WMD thing was totally obvious solution

Sorry, that didn’t make sense. Was supposed to say, ” The whole WMD thing had a totally obvious solution…”

samuelrylander on September 28, 2007 at 10:30 AM

Gunga Dan is going has Gunga Down…

omnipotent on September 27, 2007 at 4:50 PM

There, that’s better.

eanax on September 28, 2007 at 11:04 AM

One of the most infuriating things about the Left is that they refuse to acknowledge ever being wrong. Disprove any point they have made, and they stick their fingers in their ears and start singing the Smurfs’ theme song. We see it everyday….”Bush lied…no al Qaeda in Saddam’s Iraq…..the documents weren’t proven forgeries” and so on. Every one of those statements, and countless others, has been disproven, yet the Left repeats them like mantras.

Lancer on September 27, 2007 at 5:23 PM

And this is because they operate using an old but effective method of propaganda — Repeat a lie often enough and people will begin to think it’s true.

If the American Stalinists have learned anything, it’s how to parrot Leftist talking points ad nauseam.

eanax on September 28, 2007 at 11:19 AM