House passes resolution condemning MoveOn’s “Betray Us” ad

posted at 2:16 pm on September 26, 2007 by Allahpundit

Sixteen days after the ad appeared in the Times, the final chapter to this travesty is written. The vote was 341-79; here’s the roll if you’re curious to see how it shook out. Italics denote Republicans, roman typeface denotes Democrats. What do the 79 nays have in common?

Your quote of the day from David “Idiot Liberals” Obey, who may be a jerk but very occasionally is my kind of jerk:

Wisconsin Rep. David Obey, a veteran Democrat, recounted how he left the Republican Party during the era of Sen. Joseph McCarthy, R-Wis., and said that lawmakers have an obligation to criticize their allies as well as their enemies when they go too far.

“I’ve got an obligation to be equally upset when that kind of juvenile debate emanates from the left,” Obey said.

Exit question: 341 + 79 + 12 not voting = 432, not 435. Why aren’t the other three members accounted for? Pelosi isn’t listed at all, presumably because the Speaker typically doesn’t vote, but why not just stick her in the NV column then?


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MoveOn’s “Betray Us” as

I agree they are asses :D

lorien1973 on September 26, 2007 at 2:19 PM

House passes resolution condemning MoveOn’s “Betray Us” as

As? As what, submoronic?

liberrocky on September 26, 2007 at 2:19 PM

Yeah, all right, it was a typo. It’s been fixed. Geez.

Allahpundit on September 26, 2007 at 2:21 PM

Yeah, all right, it was a typo. It’s been fixed. Geez.

Allahpundit on September 26, 2007 at 2:21 PM

Heh heh heh come on AP, Michelle pays you the big bucks to get stuff like that right the third first time… :)

doriangrey on September 26, 2007 at 2:23 PM

Sadly, I find my representative, doesn’t represent me.

Why aren’t the other three members accounted for?

Check George Soros’s payroll.

Kini on September 26, 2007 at 2:25 PM

Heath Shuler, baby.

SouthernDem on September 26, 2007 at 2:27 PM

By the way, on the off chance Levy stops by (as he’s occasionally known to do), I have to express my disappointment that no one took Marc Lamont Hill to task last night, over his recent appearance on Hannity & Colmes where he said flat out that he agreed with the “Betray Us” ad, and after Hannity pestered him over and over about whether or not he thought Petraeus was Betraying us, Hill’s unbridled liberalism got the better of him and in a rant he admitted that he did believe Petraeus is betraying us.

At least Hillary tries to lie to cover her ass after calling Petraeus a liar. Anyway, I was just a little disappointed is all. I’m guessing Greg didn’t know about it, because I suspect he’d have said something.

RightWinged on September 26, 2007 at 2:28 PM

Placing an ad like that during a time of war is bordering on seditious.

The organization was founded because the founders felt like the nation should “move on” from the Lewinsky scandal. Yet, they seem to rehash the same tired tripe day in and day out.

I don’t wish violence upon others. But I certainly do not wish any good to come to these people

The Race Card on September 26, 2007 at 2:30 PM

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The Race Card on September 26, 2007 at 2:30 PM

Check George Soros’s payroll.

Kini on September 26, 2007 at 2:25 PM

My thought also.

What do the 79 nays have in common?

They are all owned by Soros?

abinitioadinfinitum on September 26, 2007 at 2:31 PM

Final chapter, I’m not so sure.

This blunt instrument can be used to hammer Mrs. Clinton for another 13+ months.

JammieWearingFool on September 26, 2007 at 2:33 PM

Too bad neither Kohl nor Feingold could show a glimmer of his common sense. Might have a better state here.

MadisonConservative on September 26, 2007 at 2:34 PM

Check out the title of the bill.

BILL TITLE: Making continuing appropriations for the fiscal year 2008, and for other purposes.

So what else was in this bill?

LakeRuins on September 26, 2007 at 2:34 PM

341-79 in the House, 75-23(?) in the Senate, Petraeus at 61% approval, and the poll against MoveOn at 58-23.

This really worked out well for them and the Times.

May they never hear the end of it.

JammieWearingFool on September 26, 2007 at 2:35 PM

Im utterly shocked that Murtha voted for it

William Amos on September 26, 2007 at 2:36 PM

Too bad neither Kohl nor Feingold could show a glimmer of his common sense. Might have a better state here.

C’mon, Kohl’s bringing Yi to the Bucks, he’s not all bad.

Enrique on September 26, 2007 at 2:37 PM

RightWinged on September 26, 2007 at 2:28 PM

Every time I see that guy (Marc Lamont Hill) I think, What a great bobble head doll he would make.

abinitioadinfinitum on September 26, 2007 at 2:37 PM

atleast everyone McCarthy accused of being a Commie, really was a Commie….just took several decades for him to be officially vindicated.

the so called “McCarthy” left, will not be so lucky

jp on September 26, 2007 at 2:38 PM

Heh heh heh come on AP, Michelle pays you the big bucks to get stuff like that right the third first time… :)

doriangrey on September 26, 2007 at 2:23 PM

Be fair its not like the word “Asses” doesnt cross our minds when we hear Moveon.

William Amos on September 26, 2007 at 2:38 PM

The republicans in congress are artfully screwing the dems at every turn, its beautiful. I’m glad the democrats were not this smart when they were in the minority.

Complete7 on September 26, 2007 at 2:40 PM

They are all owned by Soros?

abinitioadinfinitum on September 26, 2007 at 2:31 PM

Funny how James Hanson of NASA was found in George’s pockets.
Sadly, it’s proven that money will either buy you a judicial system or an elected official or any other prostitute willing to sell out their values.

The Beatles were right, Money can’t by me Love. Just everything else.

Kini on September 26, 2007 at 2:42 PM

Sadly, I find my representative, doesn’t represent me.

Hey, I’m ‘represented’ by Diane Feinstein, Barbara Boxer and Sam Farr. I’ve got no representation in Congress at all. I’ve got taxation, though…

trigon on September 26, 2007 at 2:49 PM

Check out the title of the bill.

BILL TITLE: Making continuing appropriations for the fiscal year 2008, and for other purposes.

So what else was in this bill?

LakeRuins on September 26, 2007 at 2:34 PM

I wondered about that too. Did a search for H.J.RES.52 and came up with something called Approving the renewal of import restrictions contained in the Burmese Freedom and Democracy Act of 2003. Doesn’t sound right. Wonder if there is a link so we can read the text of the resolution, AP?

RushBaby on September 26, 2007 at 2:51 PM

The republicans in congress are artfully screwing the dems at every turn, its beautiful. I’m glad the democrats were not this smart when they were in the minority.

Makes me wonder where the hell they were prior to 2006.

CurtZHP on September 26, 2007 at 2:51 PM

Kini on September 26, 2007 at 2:42 PM

Soros truly is the evil puppet master, it’s scary how much power he owns

abinitioadinfinitum on September 26, 2007 at 2:53 PM

Hey, I’m ‘represented’ by Diane Feinstein, Barbara Boxer and Sam Farr. I’ve got no representation in Congress at all. I’ve got taxation, though…

trigon on September 26, 2007 at 2:49 PM

Yep me too, and those two b$%chs are driving me to drink…But then again on the other hand at least Diane Feinstein illegally funded BILLIONS of dollars to her husbands construction company…I’m not sure why she isnt sitting in a prison cell right next to Randy “Duke” Cunningham…

doriangrey on September 26, 2007 at 2:58 PM

Note which way Ayatollah Ellison voted.

BigAnge on September 26, 2007 at 3:00 PM

Dave Reichart came through for those of us who live outside Seattle. Baghdad Jim McDermott stayed true to form.

Mallard T. Drake on September 26, 2007 at 3:00 PM

Interesting my congresswomen “Lynn Woosly” votes against this but was more then happy to write a letter for one of her staffers to try and influence the judge before sentencing the staffer’s son on his rape conviction.

Mojack420 on September 26, 2007 at 3:01 PM

Ron Paul voted “yea”!

Damian P. on September 26, 2007 at 3:03 PM

Ron Paul voted “yea”!

Damian P. on September 26, 2007 at 3:03 PM

Probably only because he though he was voting to authorize an investigation into the alien base on the darkside of the moon.

doriangrey on September 26, 2007 at 3:07 PM

Note which way Ayatollah Ellison voted.

BigAnge on September 26, 2007 at 3:00 PM

Surprised, are you?

Soros truly is the evil puppet master, it’s scary how much power he owns

abinitioadinfinitum on September 26, 2007 at 2:53 PM

Agreed, and by those whom would claim to be above that. The fact that the Times gave MoveOn a discount – for a political add – which, I believe is illegal, isn’t generating an investigation. Just condemnation lip service.

Kini on September 26, 2007 at 3:12 PM

While I can’t stand move-on, doesn’t the government have better things to do?

dougless on September 26, 2007 at 3:21 PM

My representative is William Jefferson who, no surprise, is one of the 79 bad guys. I guess it is tough to muster moral outrage with MoveOn when one has federal indictments stemming from 90K in marked FBI money in one’s freezer.

highhopes on September 26, 2007 at 3:22 PM

While I can’t stand move-on, doesn’t the government have better things to do?

dougless on September 26, 2007 at 3:21 PM

Moveon should have been charged with sedition, so no actually they really shouldn’t have anything better to do.

doriangrey on September 26, 2007 at 3:28 PM

Hey, I’m ‘represented’ by Diane Feinstein, Barbara Boxer and Sam Farr. I’ve got no representation in Congress at all. I’ve got taxation, though…

trigon on September 26, 2007 at 2:49 PM

I have two of the three–my rep is Maxine Waters. She was among the 79, of course, being the chair of the Out of Iraq Caucus.

To be fair to Feinstein, however, she did vote ‘yea’ on the senate version of this rider.

baldilocks on September 26, 2007 at 3:45 PM

To be fair to Feinstein, however, she did vote ‘yea’ on the senate version of this rider.

baldilocks on September 26, 2007 at 3:45 PM

How about we be fair to California and the United States and put Feinstein in prison right next to Randy “Duke” Cunningham???

doriangrey on September 26, 2007 at 3:48 PM

Well, I’m 3 for 3 here in Jersey—second only to Nan Francisco in blueness we are.

IrishEi on September 26, 2007 at 3:50 PM

“Wisconsin Rep. David Obey, a veteran Democrat, recounted how he left the Republican Party during the era of Sen. Joseph McCarthy, R-Wis., ….”

That sounds like it’s seared into his memory. Per Wiki, David Obey was born in 1938. McCarthy was senator until 1957. Obey would have, at the latest, been 19 (maybe 20) in 1957 when he “left he Republican Party.” Must have been the Republican Youth he left, since at that time you needed to be 21 to register and join a political party.

I have to admit, though, it was an excellent sound bite.

Dusty on September 26, 2007 at 3:52 PM

My congress critter (Jo Ann Davis) is one of the Republicans who didn’t vote, but IIRC, she’s out with some health issues.

flipflop on September 26, 2007 at 3:56 PM

BFD. I’d rather they do some real work insteaed of political posturing. Just another turd in the toilet that will not flush.

Wade on September 26, 2007 at 4:11 PM

Since McCarthy was proven right what was Olbey’s point?

I’d rather they do some real work insteaed of political posturing

Not me, the less they do the better. Keep them busy with this kind of stuff so they can’t screw anything up!

Capitalist Infidel on September 26, 2007 at 4:25 PM

Run for the hills…I guess people are patriots, and we better be a votin like we are.
Democrats talking points.

It took them this long to decide that they were on the wrong side of this issue?

right2bright on September 26, 2007 at 4:50 PM

I’m not sure why she isnt sitting in a prison cell right next to Randy “Duke” Cunningham…

doriangrey on September 26, 2007 at 2:58 PM

AAAAAmen!!

right2bright on September 26, 2007 at 4:51 PM

What do the 79 nays have in common?

They are all Dems, in districts that would never ever vote them out. How they(the 79) is how the real Dems feel. They just can’t vote that way because they could lose their seat. But these 79 could kill their grandmother, and their district would say that is is ok because grandma was a Republican.

right2bright on September 26, 2007 at 4:55 PM

Just when you think the House can smell any worse, they prove you wrong. Can’t these idiots find anything useful to vote for, like impeaching Murtha and Kerry for impersonating military heroes?

Hening on September 26, 2007 at 5:40 PM

Dusty on September 26, 2007 at 3:52 PM

Great catch!

Has anyone figured out why Pelosi’s name isn’t on the list yet?

Buy Danish on September 26, 2007 at 7:03 PM

Exit question: 341 + 79 + 12 not voting = 432, not 435. Why aren’t the other three members accounted for? Pelosi isn’t listed at all, presumably because the Speaker typically doesn’t vote, but why not just stick her in the NV column then?

There are currently two vacancies due to Marty Meehan’s resignation and the death of Paul Gilmor.

432 (voting) + 1 (Pelosi) + 2 (vacant) = 435

KSgop on September 26, 2007 at 7:27 PM

Way to validate a stupid, petty ad with stupid, petty debate. We’re engaged in serveral international military conflicts without any end in sight. We’re over-spending and over-taxing. Congress definitely has better things to be debating.

Mark Jaquith on September 26, 2007 at 11:26 PM

This was a proper, if incomplete, response to moveon.org’s ad. Step 2 should be revocation of their tax-exempt entity, and IRS/FBI investigation of them and their contributors, and an investigation of George Soros himself.

Investors Business Daily has a number of articles about Soros, what he stands for, and to whom he contributes.

From The Soros Threat to Democracy:

How many people, for instance, know that James Hansen, a man billed as a lonely “NASA whistleblower” standing up to the mighty U.S. government, was really funded by Soros’ Open Society Institute , which gave him “legal and media advice”?

That’s right, Hansen was packaged for the media by Soros’ flagship “philanthropy,” by as much as $720,000, most likely under the OSI’s “politicization of science” program.

and here’s more about the mischief that Soros does:

That’s not the only case. Didn’t the mainstream media report that 2006′s vast immigration rallies across the country began as a spontaneous uprising of 2 million angry Mexican-flag waving illegal immigrants demanding U.S. citizenship in Los Angeles, egged on only by a local Spanish-language radio announcer?

Turns out that wasn’t what happened, either. Soros’ OSI had money-muscle there, too, through its $17 million Justice Fund. The fund lists 19 projects in 2006. One was vaguely described involvement in the immigration rallies. Another project funded illegal immigrant activist groups for subsequent court cases.

So what looked like a wildfire grassroots movement really was a manipulation from OSI’s glassy Manhattan offices. The public had no way of knowing until the release of OSI’s 2006 annual report.

Meanwhile, OSI cash backed terrorist-friendly court rulings, too.

Do people know last year’s Supreme Court ruling abolishing special military commissions for terrorists at Guantanamo was a Soros project? OSI gave support to Georgetown lawyers in 2006 to win Hamdan v. Rumsfeld — for the terrorists.

In George Soros: The Man, The Mind And The Money Behind MoveOn, we see that:

But Soros is no hands-off donor. According to the Open Society Institute’s Web site: “Despite the breadth of his endeavors, Soros is personally involved in planning and implementing many of the foundation network’s projects.”

Soros says he gives away about $400 million annually.

It’s an admirable picture, but “philanthropy” may be the wrong word. Unlike, say, Bill Gates, who really does put the bulk of his charity into helping the world’s poor through medical services, Soros tends to fund pressure groups and foundations he misleadingly characterizes as promoting “civil society” and “democracy.”

The image gives him moral cover to manipulate democracies whose voter verdicts he opposes.

And we find out exactly why moveon.org has become so powerful (and rich), and why:

And since 2003, tearing down what he views as the “fascist” tyranny of the United States, as he has put it, is “the central focus of my life.”

Through networks of nongovernmental organizations, Soros intends to ruin the presidency of George W. Bush “by any legal means necessary” and knock America off its global pedestal. “His view of America is so negative,” says Sen. Joe Lieberman, who, like Gen. David Petraeus, has been a target of Soros’ electoral “philanthropy.” “The places he’s put his money are . . . so destructive that it unsettles me.” Soros’ aim seems to be to make the U.S. just another client state easily controlled by the United Nations and other one-world groups where he has lots of friends.

Best known among these groups is MoveOn.org, a previously small fringe-left group to which Soros has given $5 million since 2004. Bulked up by cash, the group now uses professional public relations tactics to undercut the Iraq War effort, with its latest a full-page New York Times ad that branded Gen. Petraeus “General Betray Us.”

And, according to IBD, Soros has been successful:

Media Matters (and MoveOn.org) succeeded last year in denying incumbent Lieberman the Democratic nomination for Senate in Connecticut and effectively drove the moderate out of his own party. Net result: Fewer Democrats, including today’s crop running for office, are willing to challenge any Soros-financed pressure group.

Yep. He owns them, lock, stock, and barrel.

And, he’s directly involved in stealing elections and corrupting the electoral system, according to IBD:

Soros’ efforts go beyond spin. He has also bankrolled groups involved in the manipulation of elections, an activity that has increased since his money came into the picture. Two groups — Americans Coming Together and the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now — were sanctioned recently by the Federal Election Commission for fraud.

And he is THE MAJOR MONEY behind domestic terrorism:

Soros additionally finances groups best described as helpful to terrorists. Since 1998, he has given the American Civil Liberties Union $5 million to empower criminals, including lawsuits on behalf of terrorists’ “civil rights.”

Soros’ Open Society Institute gave $20,000 for the legal defense of radical attorney Lynne Stewart. She was convicted in 2002 of abetting jailed terrorists after the 1993 World Trade Center bombing….

…He has handed $3.1 million to the left-wing Tides Foundation, which funds organizations, such as the Sea Shepherds, Earth First! and the Ruckus Society, that have condoned or engaged in eco-terrorism.

The above alone ought to justify DHS and Justice to investigate Soros and strip him of his naturalized citizenship and his immediate deportation.

Yes, investigating Moveon, Soros, Open Society Institute, IS the proper job of Congress. Indictments for treason (aiding and abetting), sedition (domestic terrorism), and vote fraud should be returned against George Soros.

George Soros is a CLEAR AND PRESENT DANGER to the United States of America.

georgej on September 27, 2007 at 12:47 AM

My democrat congressman supports the condemnation of MoveOn. I sent him a thank you support note.

If your congressman opposed the rebuke, then you need to express yourself.

Don’t let them get away with it.

Black Adam on September 27, 2007 at 7:23 AM

Notice how all the Dem Presidential hopefuls voted on this issue in both the House and the Senate.

They have sold their sole to George Soros!!!

Pretty dangerous for this country in my opinion.

Golfer_75093 on September 27, 2007 at 8:39 AM