Seriously, Allah, an edit button is sorely needed.

No.

HELL, NO!

We have a Preview button. Thanks oodles for that, whoever got it done. You should use it, and make sure you’re actually saying what you mean.

Once you submit, your words are out there, and you don’t get to retract them. If you say something beyond the pale, a HA staff member may retract them for you, or a filter might catch you using a keyword so it never even gets published without moderator intervention. Unlike Congressmen, you can’t “revise and extend” your remarks and make the Official Record show what you meant to say instead of what you said. You can apologize for screwing up and saying something you didn’t mean to say (and sooner or later, we all will do that) but you can’t un-say it.

Let’s be serious.

Someone with connections to conservatism. Rudy ain’t one of ‘em.

Hollowpoint on September 25, 2007 at 5:50 PM

QUOTE OF THE MUTHA F***** DAY!

Someone with connections to conservatism. Rudy ain’t one of ‘em.

Hollowpoint on September 25, 2007 at 5:50 PM

QUOTE OF THE MUTHA F***** DAY!

Really, who would you rather have in the White House, someone with connections to the mob or to Libyan terrorists?

tommylotto on September 25, 2007 at 5:46 PM

Someone with connections to conservatism. Rudy ain’t one of ‘em.

ferret owners, etc etc etc.

Hollowpoint on September 25, 2007 at 4:45 PM

What? Next are you going to defend the squeegie guys?

Really, who would you rather have in the White House, someone with connections to the mob or to Libyan terrorists?

You guys are criticizing Rudy for mentioning 9/11 and turning around NYC during his campaign.

No one’s criticizing him for mentioning those things, it’s the fact that he mentions them over and over and over again in response to almost every issue he addresses no matter how relevant. He’s a one trick pony.

The problem with Rudy is that he has actual accomplishments on his resume!!!
tommylotto on September 25, 2007 at 3:55 PM

I agree, being as how those accomplishments are providing a sanctuary for illegal aliens, suing lawful gun manufacturers, infringing on the civil rights of those who would otherwise legally own a gun, making crony appointmens including his mob-connected driver, taking on terrorist ferret owners, etc etc etc.

Where was Fred on 9/11 — some cushie bunker for Senators?
Did Fred reduce crime in Lynchburg? Oh, he was never an executive, he was a lobbyist — when he wasn’t providing legal advice to terrorists.

When your only achievements are CFR, defending Libyans, lobbying for abortion groups and asbestos manufacturers, and spying for Nixon, I guess you want to focus more on the issues than actual experience and leadership.

QUOTE OF THE MUTHA F***** DAY!

’bout time somebody dished it back to the other candidates.

Where was Fred on 9/11 — some cushie bunker for Senators?
Did Fred reduce crime in Lynchburg? Oh, he was never an executive, he was a lobbyist — when he wasn’t providing legal advice to terrorists.

When your only achievements are CFR, defending Libyans, lobbying for abortion groups and asbestos manufacturers, and spying for Nixon, I guess you want to focus more on the issues than actual experience and leadership.

RESPECT THE RUDY-HATERS.

Allahpundit on September 25, 2007 at 12:47 PM

I do respect you, but unlike you, I support Rudy for President, Not Obama.

Nothing to see here.

No, you’re trying to have it only one way. The kids are responsible for the action. Giuliani’s where they got the idea. Such a thing as second-degree responsibility. Or third, or fourth…

But that’s not the original criticism, is it? This was called a “campaign stunt,” which implied it came from the top.

Saying Rudy created an atmosphere where this could happen versus saying his campaign is responsible are two separate arguments.

Sure, they’re culpable. Still doesn’t change the likelihood that had Rudy tried a platform other than “Hey! Remember me? I’m the mayor of the 9/11 town!”, this probably would not have happened.

You’re trying to have it both ways here. Either Rudy is responsible for them or he isn’t.

Is he, or isn’t he?

Impressionable young people apparently got the message. 9/11 references get you votes. They are responsible for their own behavior, but they didn’t pull the inspiration out of thin air.

So they’re responsible, but not culpable since Rudy brainwashed them?

“There are some young people who came up with it,” Sofaer said when reached by telephone Monday evening. He referred other questions to Giuliani’s campaign…

Impressionable young people apparently got the message. 9/11 references get you votes. They are responsible for their own behavior, but they didn’t pull the inspiration out of thin air.

So Rudy beats the 9/11 drum too hard, and the follower who picks up on that is somehow unrelated? Is that sort of like Two-First-Names who keeps questioning the 9/11 commission report, but just *happens* to pick up the troofer vote?

Ha. Two-First-Names. I’ll have to remember that one.

That’s better than the Kerry comparison, but still flawed. Giuliani may attract people who believe a certain way, but that does not make him responsible for their behavior, especially if they are not part of his campaign.

I think it’s a stupid idea, and agree that Rudy beats the 9/11 drum too hard, but blaming a campaign for the bad taste of a supporter is dishonest.

So Rudy beats the 9/11 drum too hard, and the follower who picks up on that is somehow unrelated? Is that sort of like Two-First-Names who keeps questioning the 9/11 commission report, but just *happens* to pick up the troofer vote?

Who could have seen it coming???

RESPECT THE RUDY-HATERS.

Allahpundit on September 25, 2007 at 12:47 PM

I don’t hate Rudy. I don’t hate Obama either. However, I think both are disingenuous charlatans, neither of which would be good running this country. Both want a socialist state by their views. Republicans desperate to retain the office in ’08 seem to have missed that. That’s a dangerous prospect.