Giuliani supporter hosts “$9.11 for Rudy” event

posted at 10:01 am on September 25, 2007 by Allahpundit

Awful, but the campaign’s probably blameless. As heavy-handed as they are sometimes in touting Rudy’s 9/11 credentials (the Onion parody captures it better than any single news article), monetizing a massacre this overtly costs him more in P.R. than the event will earn. They’ll make it go away. But what was Sofaer thinking?

A supporter of Rudy Giuliani’s is throwing a party that aims to raise $9.11 per person for the Republican’s presidential campaign.

Abraham Sofaer is having a fundraiser at his Palo Alto, Calif., home on Wednesday, when Giuliani backers across the country are participating in the campaign’s national house party night.

But Sofaer said he had nothing to do with the “$9.11 for Rudy” theme.

“There are some young people who came up with it,” Sofaer said when reached by telephone Monday evening. He referred other questions to Giuliani’s campaign…

According to the invitation, “$9.11 for Rudy” is an “independent, non-denominational grass-roots campaign to raise $10,000 in small increments to show how many individual, everyday Americans support `America’s Mayor.’”

Breaking on Hot Air

Blowback

Note from Hot Air management: This section is for comments from Hot Air's community of registered readers. Please don't assume that Hot Air management agrees with or otherwise endorses any particular comment just because we let it stand. A reminder: Anyone who fails to comply with our terms of use may lose their posting privilege.

Trackbacks/Pings

Trackback URL

Comments

Of course the MSM will beat up Rudy for this even though he had nothing to do with it. They have already begun doing it on MSNBC and The Daily Kos.

SoulGlo on September 25, 2007 at 10:04 AM

The prick is a slimeball, and I hope he gets beaten.

As for Rudy, he deserves at least some of the crap the media will give him for this. He’s run his entire campaign on 9/11, answering nearly every question with it, and he deserves to catch some flak for it.

MadisonConservative on September 25, 2007 at 10:06 AM

It’s so bad that when I saw this somewhere y’day I thought “$9.11?” Why the hell are they raising such a weird amount per person? I don’t get it anyway. I doubt this Sofaer dude is only charging people $9 to come into his house for some fundraiser. I just didn’t get the whole article, but hey, I’m an idiot.

RW Wacko on September 25, 2007 at 10:09 AM

The MSM will beat the crap out of these folks raising money from legitimate doners while totally ignoring the Shu donations to Hillary.

Go figure.

BacaDog on September 25, 2007 at 10:11 AM

Wow, that’s stupid.

CP on September 25, 2007 at 10:17 AM

Oh hey, by the way, did you know Giuliani reduced crime while he was mayor of New York?! Didn’t know if you’d heard that yet or not. Also, John Kerry served in Vietnam.

CP on September 25, 2007 at 10:18 AM

Well, as long as he wasn’t directly associated with it, he should be OK.

It’s not like taking almost a million dollars in suspect cash, “giving it back”, then asking for it back.

Nethicus on September 25, 2007 at 10:19 AM

i know 9/11 was a national tragedy, but come on. this is insulting. the event should not be a marketing tool, or campaign tool.

madmonkphotog on September 25, 2007 at 10:25 AM

He’s run his entire campaign on 9/11, answering nearly every question with it, and he deserves to catch some flak for it.

MadisonConservative on September 25, 2007 at 10:06 AM

You know, how exactly has he run his campaign on 9/11? Do you ever actually listen to any of his campaign speeches, or his answers to questions, or his platform? Or, are you just repeating what anyone else says who doesn’t like Rudy?

He runs on his record, and that includes all the things he acheieved as Mayor and prosecutor in NY.

Maybe he should just he homogenized like every other candidate and just say the approved talking points?

Try thinking for yourself for a change, instead of regurgitating crap you read on blogs.

Vincenzo on September 25, 2007 at 10:30 AM

Try thinking for yourself for a change, instead of regurgitating crap you read on blogs.

Vincenzo on September 25, 2007 at 10:30 AM

Hey, that’s a great idea! I’ll do that!

James on September 25, 2007 at 10:32 AM

Stupid, but cheap.

A winning combo.

profitsbeard on September 25, 2007 at 10:38 AM

He’s run his entire campaign on 9/11, answering nearly every question with it, and he deserves to catch some flak for it.

MadisonConservative on September 25, 2007 at 10:06 AM

That is absolute nonsense. He has run his campaign on his significant accomplishments as a Prosecutor, and most importantly as Mayor of New York, and those who don’t like Rudy complain that he talks too much about that too.

But why bother with facts. Why don’t you tell us what you think he should run on?

Buy Danish on September 25, 2007 at 10:45 AM

Vincenzo on September 25, 2007

I’ll partially second that. My NY friends, even some of my more liberal (not wacko) ones, like Rudy b/c of his scrubbing the city. Talk to people who also lived there in the 70s and 80s and they tend to be rather supportive of Rudy.

RW Wacko on September 25, 2007 at 10:46 AM

As for Rudy, he deserves at least some of the crap the media will give him for this. He’s run his entire campaign on 9/11, answering nearly every question with it, and he deserves to catch some flak for it.

MadisonConservative on September 25, 2007 at 10:06 AM

I am not Rudy’s biggest fan MadCon but perhaps you could expound on your comments and tell us what issues of any importance don’t stem from the 9/11/01 atrocities….

Immigration Reform- This is a national security issues. Not all the 9/11/01 terrorists were here legally.

SCOTUS appointees- We need a SCOTUS that doesn’t extend the same rights to foreign terrorists that American citizens enjoy.

National Security- We need a team in the White House/Pentagon that “gets it” when it comes to terrorism and the threats this nation faces. One of the biggest reasons for the 9/11/01 atrocities was eight years of a President who viewed every terrorist event as a garden variety crime and refused to respond as a Commander-in-Chief. Put another way, national security strategy is not formulated by the Department of Justice.

Economic issues, healthcare reform, no-child-left-behind….. These are issues that only matter if American citizens are safe in their own homes. Rudy did an outstanding job in the aftermath of the 9/11/01 atrocities (compare with C. Ray Nagin in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina). One of the criticisms about Rudy from the gaggle of Senators is that he doesn’t have any experience dealing with the security issues. I’d say his actions after 9/11 prove he has the capabilities far better than the spouse of the man who created the walls that prevented national intelligence being shared lest we violate the civil rights of suspected terrorists!

highhopes on September 25, 2007 at 11:06 AM

slightly OT but worth noting – this weekend I was talking to a friend of mine who lives near Gettysburh PA. we were talking about PA and that it is generally a conservative state, save for Scranton/Pgh unions, and minority dem votes in Philly. He mentioned that everyone he talks to, even the union membs who often go democrat, are so incensed by Hillary that they are all ready to line up to vote against her. They are completely repulsed by her — he mentioned two people he said havent voted in years who will break the streak if Hill’s on the ballot.

BillLalor on September 25, 2007 at 11:11 AM

Wow. Oof is right.

Dash on September 25, 2007 at 11:19 AM

[quote]Try thinking for yourself for a change, instead of regurgitating crap you read on blogs.

Vincenzo on September 25, 2007 at 10:30 AM[/quote]

Already do. Most of the time he has been asked a question in the debates, or in his numerous interviews, he somehow segues to 9/11. Any and every opportunity.

[quote]But why bother with facts. Why don’t you tell us what you think he should run on?

Buy Danish on September 25, 2007 at 10:45 AM[/quote]

Kos worthy smarm. Cute, and repugnant. He should run on a platform of issues rather than read off his resume every 12 seconds. He should be talking about what he intends to do rather than what he already did. That’s what he should be running on.

[quote]I am not Rudy’s biggest fan MadCon but perhaps you could expound on your comments and tell us what issues of any importance don’t stem from the 9/11/01 atrocities….[/quote]

Gun control. Abortion. Health Care. Oh, wait, maybe I shouldn’t talk further. All those issues he’s a total liberal on. For me, above others, the first is a critical one. If we’re not secure from our government, we’re not secure, period.

And yes, most of the top domestic issues that matter to Americans are related to 9/11. Doesn’t mean he has to preface every answer with another speculation on how deeply 9/11 touched him and how much it affected his city and how, oh yeah, he was the mayor of the city that 9/11 happened to (You might not have known that, so he’ll say it again). My point is that he spends a hell of a lot of time emphasizing the position chance put him in. If he were the mayor of Buffalo, he’d have a lot less steam, and his status as lead RINO would have him a lot lower in the polls.

This whole incident with the $9.11 thing is a symptom of what he has surrounded himself with. I don’t want someone who is going to sit in the oval office reflecting on the burning towers. I want him sitting in the oval office deciding what to do with Al-Sadr after he’s captured the bastard.

MadisonConservative on September 25, 2007 at 11:33 AM

Seriously, Allah, an edit button is sorely needed.

MadisonConservative on September 25, 2007 at 11:37 AM

Gun control. Abortion. Health Care. Oh, wait, maybe I shouldn’t talk further. All those issues he’s a total liberal on. For me, above others, the first is a critical one. If we’re not secure from our government, we’re not secure, period.

Agreed Madcon. I don’t understand how this thread about a wholly inappropriate campaign function for ‘Mr. 9/11′ reduced into a ‘Rudy is the best candidate available’ thread.

We are all familiar with 9/11, but Rudy brings it up at least 2 or 3 times every debate. 9/11 is his only thing. It would be like Mike Tyson saying the thing that makes him the best fighter is Buster Douglas. He got hit on 9/11, he didn’t PREVENT anything. He was there (PERIOD).

These other issues are horrible for a Republican primary which is why he’s ‘Mr. 9/11′. It will backfire on him because people are already upset that Bush uses 9/11 so much to justify everything he does. Do we want another 4 years of someone saying ’9/11 boogyman’ anytime he does something we might not like? I don’t.

ANYBODY should be able to beat Hillary. RUDY could not beat her for NY senate – but now you think he’ll be great for the president?

he created a sanctuary city for illegals, took guns, coddles gays, is pro-choice, his personal life is at least as questionable as Newt’s. THESE ARE HIS ISSUES OTHER THAN 9/11 that most conservatives don’t like.

Hillary is going to raise everyone’s taxes if she gets elected. Keep saying that and then ask yourself who would vote for someone who says she’s going to take your money.

Republicans need to put up a social conservative. If Hillary runs, she’ll scare the Republican base to the polls anyway no matter who. Rudy ain’t the guy. ‘Mr. 9/11′ is going to rub CONSERVATIVES the wrong way – as this campaign stunt has.

ThackerAgency on September 25, 2007 at 12:24 PM

ANYBODY should be able to beat Hillary. RUDY could not beat her for NY senate – but now you think he’ll be great for the president?

When did he run against her?

Mr. 9/11′ is going to rub CONSERVATIVES the wrong way – as this campaign stunt has.

Since it’s not technically part of his campaign, calling it a “campaign stunt” is misleading.

Slublog on September 25, 2007 at 12:35 PM

How about the cell phone call at the NRA this week to ‘prove’ how important he thinks the second amendment is. Was that a ‘campaign stunt’ or do you think ‘Mr. 9/11′ telling his 3rd wife he loves her is more important than the 2nd amendment of the constitution?

Noooooooooo. . . Rudy won’t rub conservatives the wrong way in the general election. He will only win if Hillary runs because conservatives can’t stand Hillary or what she stands for so they’ll vote against her – not ‘for’ Rudy.

ThackerAgency on September 25, 2007 at 12:42 PM

So Rudy ran against Hillary when again?

Slublog on September 25, 2007 at 12:43 PM

He dropped out when polls showed he would lose. . .just like he’ll do when his primary numbers fall. . .he’s a real fighter (when he’s ahead).

ThackerAgency on September 25, 2007 at 12:44 PM

He dropped out when polls showed he would lose. . .just like he’ll do when his primary numbers fall. . .he’s a real fighter (when he’s ahead).

Or…it might have had something to do with the prostate cancer.

But whatevs…Rudy-haters gotta have their myths, right?

Slublog on September 25, 2007 at 12:45 PM

RESPECT THE RUDY-HATERS.

Allahpundit on September 25, 2007 at 12:47 PM

RESPECT THE RUDY-HATERS.
Allahpundit on September 25, 2007 at 12:47 PM

Sorry, AP.

Slublog on September 25, 2007 at 12:47 PM

Since it’s not technically part of his campaign, calling it a “campaign stunt” is misleading.

Slublog on September 25, 2007 at 12:35 PM

Right. And Kerry’s Vietnam service wasn’t technically part of his campaign.

MadisonConservative on September 25, 2007 at 12:49 PM

Right. And Kerry’s Vietnam service wasn’t technically part of his campaign.

Was this guy part of the campaign?

I think it’s a stupid idea, and agree that Rudy beats the 9/11 drum too hard, but blaming a campaign for the bad taste of a supporter is dishonest.

Slublog on September 25, 2007 at 12:51 PM

RESPECT THE RUDY-HATERS.

Allahpundit on September 25, 2007 at 12:47 PM

I don’t hate Rudy. I don’t hate Obama either. However, I think both are disingenuous charlatans, neither of which would be good running this country. Both want a socialist state by their views. Republicans desperate to retain the office in ’08 seem to have missed that. That’s a dangerous prospect.

MadisonConservative on September 25, 2007 at 12:52 PM

I think it’s a stupid idea, and agree that Rudy beats the 9/11 drum too hard, but blaming a campaign for the bad taste of a supporter is dishonest.

So Rudy beats the 9/11 drum too hard, and the follower who picks up on that is somehow unrelated? Is that sort of like Two-First-Names who keeps questioning the 9/11 commission report, but just *happens* to pick up the troofer vote?

Who could have seen it coming???

MadisonConservative on September 25, 2007 at 12:55 PM

So Rudy beats the 9/11 drum too hard, and the follower who picks up on that is somehow unrelated? Is that sort of like Two-First-Names who keeps questioning the 9/11 commission report, but just *happens* to pick up the troofer vote?

Ha. Two-First-Names. I’ll have to remember that one.

That’s better than the Kerry comparison, but still flawed. Giuliani may attract people who believe a certain way, but that does not make him responsible for their behavior, especially if they are not part of his campaign.

Slublog on September 25, 2007 at 12:59 PM

Or have we decided to jettison the whole conservative ideal of people being responsible for their own behavior because ignoring it is useful to bash a single candidate on a single issue?

Slublog on September 25, 2007 at 1:00 PM

Not to sound too cliche, but…

“There are some young people who came up with it,” Sofaer said when reached by telephone Monday evening. He referred other questions to Giuliani’s campaign…

Impressionable young people apparently got the message. 9/11 references get you votes. They are responsible for their own behavior, but they didn’t pull the inspiration out of thin air.

MadisonConservative on September 25, 2007 at 1:06 PM

Impressionable young people apparently got the message. 9/11 references get you votes. They are responsible for their own behavior, but they didn’t pull the inspiration out of thin air.

So they’re responsible, but not culpable since Rudy brainwashed them?

Slublog on September 25, 2007 at 1:11 PM

Sure, they’re culpable. Still doesn’t change the likelihood that had Rudy tried a platform other than “Hey! Remember me? I’m the mayor of the 9/11 town!”, this probably would not have happened.

MadisonConservative on September 25, 2007 at 1:14 PM

Sure, they’re culpable. Still doesn’t change the likelihood that had Rudy tried a platform other than “Hey! Remember me? I’m the mayor of the 9/11 town!”, this probably would not have happened.

You’re trying to have it both ways here. Either Rudy is responsible for them or he isn’t.

Is he, or isn’t he?

Slublog on September 25, 2007 at 1:16 PM

No, you’re trying to have it only one way. The kids are responsible for the action. Giuliani’s where they got the idea. Such a thing as second-degree responsibility. Or third, or fourth…

MadisonConservative on September 25, 2007 at 1:18 PM

No, you’re trying to have it only one way. The kids are responsible for the action. Giuliani’s where they got the idea. Such a thing as second-degree responsibility. Or third, or fourth…

But that’s not the original criticism, is it? This was called a “campaign stunt,” which implied it came from the top.

Saying Rudy created an atmosphere where this could happen versus saying his campaign is responsible are two separate arguments.

Slublog on September 25, 2007 at 1:21 PM

And I never made the argument that it was a campaign stunt. Merely that this was a symptom of what he sowed his campaign with. And I stand by it.

MadisonConservative on September 25, 2007 at 1:25 PM

lol@James

safarial on September 25, 2007 at 1:32 PM

More left-wing water carrying, baseless attacks on Rudy. *Yawn*

Nothing to see here.

JayHaw Phrenzie on September 25, 2007 at 1:48 PM

RESPECT THE RUDY-HATERS.

Allahpundit on September 25, 2007 at 12:47 PM

I do respect you, but unlike you, I support Rudy for President, Not Obama.

JayHaw Phrenzie on September 25, 2007 at 1:49 PM

You guys are criticizing Rudy for mentioning 9/11 and turning around NYC during his campaign. The problem with Rudy is that he has actual accomplishments on his resume!!! Yea, the other candidates are not bogged down with achievements, so their message dosen’t get weighed down by discussing them.

Where was Fred on 9/11 — some cushie bunker for Senators?
Did Fred reduce crime in Lynchburg? Oh, he was never an executive, he was a lobbyist — when he wasn’t providing legal advice to terrorists.

When your only achievements are CFR, defending Libyans, lobbying for abortion groups and asbestos manufacturers, and spying for Nixon, I guess you want to focus more on the issues than actual experience and leadership.

tommylotto on September 25, 2007 at 3:55 PM

Where was Fred on 9/11 — some cushie bunker for Senators?
Did Fred reduce crime in Lynchburg? Oh, he was never an executive, he was a lobbyist — when he wasn’t providing legal advice to terrorists.

When your only achievements are CFR, defending Libyans, lobbying for abortion groups and asbestos manufacturers, and spying for Nixon, I guess you want to focus more on the issues than actual experience and leadership.

QUOTE OF THE MUTHA F***** DAY!

’bout time somebody dished it back to the other candidates.

Vincenzo on September 25, 2007 at 3:59 PM

You guys are criticizing Rudy for mentioning 9/11 and turning around NYC during his campaign.

No one’s criticizing him for mentioning those things, it’s the fact that he mentions them over and over and over again in response to almost every issue he addresses no matter how relevant. He’s a one trick pony.

The problem with Rudy is that he has actual accomplishments on his resume!!!
tommylotto on September 25, 2007 at 3:55 PM

I agree, being as how those accomplishments are providing a sanctuary for illegal aliens, suing lawful gun manufacturers, infringing on the civil rights of those who would otherwise legally own a gun, making crony appointmens including his mob-connected driver, taking on terrorist ferret owners, etc etc etc.

Hollowpoint on September 25, 2007 at 4:45 PM

ferret owners, etc etc etc.

Hollowpoint on September 25, 2007 at 4:45 PM

What? Next are you going to defend the squeegie guys?

Really, who would you rather have in the White House, someone with connections to the mob or to Libyan terrorists?

tommylotto on September 25, 2007 at 5:46 PM

Really, who would you rather have in the White House, someone with connections to the mob or to Libyan terrorists?

tommylotto on September 25, 2007 at 5:46 PM

Someone with connections to conservatism. Rudy ain’t one of ‘em.

Hollowpoint on September 25, 2007 at 5:50 PM

Someone with connections to conservatism. Rudy ain’t one of ‘em.

Hollowpoint on September 25, 2007 at 5:50 PM

QUOTE OF THE MUTHA F***** DAY!

MadisonConservative on September 25, 2007 at 6:00 PM

Someone with connections to conservatism. Rudy ain’t one of ‘em.

Hollowpoint on September 25, 2007 at 5:50 PM

QUOTE OF THE MUTHA F***** DAY!

jaime on September 25, 2007 at 8:34 PM

And when the choice is HillObamaWards, or Any R candidate but Ron Paul, I’ll take Any R.

Let’s be serious.

profitsbeard on September 25, 2007 at 9:51 PM

Seriously, Allah, an edit button is sorely needed.

No.

HELL, NO!

We have a Preview button. Thanks oodles for that, whoever got it done. You should use it, and make sure you’re actually saying what you mean.

Once you submit, your words are out there, and you don’t get to retract them. If you say something beyond the pale, a HA staff member may retract them for you, or a filter might catch you using a keyword so it never even gets published without moderator intervention. Unlike Congressmen, you can’t “revise and extend” your remarks and make the Official Record show what you meant to say instead of what you said. You can apologize for screwing up and saying something you didn’t mean to say (and sooner or later, we all will do that) but you can’t un-say it.

The Monster on October 15, 2007 at 10:31 PM