Ahmadinejad: Fear the polarity

posted at 9:58 pm on September 25, 2007 by Bryan

I join my colleagues around the virtual Hot Air water cooler in surmising that CU President Lee Bollinger’s barrage on Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was a face-saving gesture. Having heard the rancor that his university’s invitation to the tyrant had created, he had little choice but to go on the attack. So he did. That it was a fine and well-deserved attack doesn’t alter the fact that the invitation itself was a mistake and that the entire spectacle diminished Columbia even while it also diminished the tyrant, somewhat.

Nevertheless, The Australian takes the ambush and runs with it in an editorial.

A WEEK ago, Lee Bollinger was dismissed as a terrorist-coddling liberal egghead whose invitation for Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to speak at Columbia University was a monument to everything wrong in American academia.

Today, after his brutal and unexpected denunciation of Ahmadinejad as a cruel and ridiculous tyrant, the Columbia president has suddenly gone from a leftie pariah to a rolled-gold American hero.

Carried live on cable TV around the world, Bollinger’s Charles Spencer moment was not just a surprise, it was also one of the great political ambushes of modern times.

Sitting alone under a spotlight on the darkened stage, Ahmadinejad looked silly, vulnerable and under arrest as Bollinger coldly and methodically demanded the Iranian leader explain his Holocaust denial, his support for terrorism, his crackdown on academic dissent and his threats against Israel, the country he wants “wiped off the map”.

As much accusation as inquiry, the questions seemed to go on forever, before ending with a putdown that was the verbal equivalent of being beaten with a baseball bat.

“Frankly, and in all candour, Mr President, I doubt that you will have the intellectual courage to answer these questions,” Bollinger said.

“But your avoiding them will itself be meaningful to us. I do expect you to exhibit the fanatical mindset that characterises so much of what you say and do.

“I feel all the weight of the modern civilised world yearning to express the revulsion at what you stand for. I only wish I could do better.”

I only wish that last part was true. The fact is, the weight of the modern civilized world can’t even agree that al Qaeda, never mind the Iranian government, is a collection of brutes and terrorists. I’ve told this story before, but I used to work at one of the most prestigious scientific institutions in the world. A nice chunk of the riches of the modern civilized world went toward building the object that we managed there, the billion dollar Hubble Space Telescope, and toward paying the extremely educated scientists and engineers who worked there. Within a day or three of 9-11 — not months or years later, but while the hole was still smoking and while there was still a dim hope of recovering living victims from the rubble — I overheard a conversation between several of those scientists. One of them is destined to win a Nobel for physics within a decade or two, but I won’t name him here because I don’t want to embarrass him. He and his esteemed colleagues couldn’t agree that 9-11 was in fact a terrorist act. They couldn’t agree that mass murder of civilians going about their business constituted terrorism. These half dozen brilliant minds could be engaged at the drop of a data set in a passionate, heated argument over whether Pluto is in fact a planet or just one distant body among many, but they could not take a stand that the hijackers were wrong and that it would be right to destroy the organization that supported and directed them.

So it’s not true that the weight of the modern civilized world yearns to express revulsion at Iran’s terrorist president any more than those scientists yearned to flip a bird at Osama bin Laden. Most of the weight of the modern civilized world yearns to pretend that there are no threats save the one at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue in Washington. Most of the modern civilized world is like the woman that we met on the train, living more in fear of the world’s present polarity than that one side, the bad guys, just might end up on top and be in a position to dictate terms to the rest of us.

Other than that, Bollinger made some good points, and it’s good that some in the world are picking up on them. But he still shouldn’t have invited Ahmadinejad in the first place. Mahmoud’s send-off before heading to New York was a giant, Nazi-like goose step parade featuring banners that said “Death to America.” The weight of the modern civilized world barely batted an eyelash at that.


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This was a moment in history. No doubt.

Zorro on September 25, 2007 at 10:15 PM

These half dozen brilliant minds could be engaged ………….. but they could not take a stand that the hijackers were wrong and that it would be right to destroy the organization that supported and directed them.

This is what pacifism in the Vietnam war era and the counter culture has wrought us: intelligent, educated, blithering, pale faced pacifists.

Mcguyver on September 25, 2007 at 10:17 PM

I think that is an important perspective to remember after yesterday’s speech. Thanks for that Bryan.

nailinmyeye on September 25, 2007 at 10:18 PM

Notice how close his eyes are together? Not a good trait for a human to have.

Bollinger was in damage control mode. No matter how he tried to wax eloquently about the usefulness of “vigorous debate” with dictators, in justifying his invitation, the fact remains that he would never extend such an invitation to a contentious conservative figure, under any circumstances. So this meme about the virtue of letting bad people speak in order to expose them as bad people, as Bollinger suggested, is a tactic not equally applied as his university, or any other, and even if it were, it is a non-sequitur in any case.

There was no debate, much less vigorous debate. It was just talking points. How does Bollinger, or anybody, justify letting a dictator have such a platform by invoking the mantra of vigorous debate, when such platforms are used to disseminate propaganda only, when questions are not answered, and he merely repeats the same message he has delivered many times already? You can not engage a dictator in debate with questions you know he won’t address. What possible debate can there be on any issue a dictator holds dear?

No, sorry, Lee. That excuse to justify asking this anti-American dictator to come to your Leftist university is not honest. It is intellectually disingenuous at best. At worst, it is collusion with the enemy of your nation. If you really believe in the value of debate with dictators, as absurd a proposition as that is, then have such a debate over the phone. Emails work well, too. The results, however, will be the same.

jihadwatcher on September 25, 2007 at 10:21 PM

I’m split about my feelings on it. On one hand I believe he should have been dropped off the Coney Island pier. On the other I am glad I listened to his twisted words.

One thing was clear to me from his Columbia appearance and his U.N. (kaf-hak) appearance…..war warnings. Like reading back though official Tokyo statements and dispatches between 37-41……’ready or not, here we come’.

Limerick on September 25, 2007 at 10:30 PM

I am actually more upset that our media did not cover how Iran’s gov’t controlled media twisted the coverage and portrayed his visit to CU as a hero or celebrity’s welcome.

Instead of saying only a handful in the back near the cameras out of the hundreds present in the room gave him a standing ovation, they just said he got a standing ovation.

El Guapo on September 25, 2007 at 10:38 PM

Heres what I think,I was a teenager when Vietnam was ending,
World War Two movies were coming out of Hollywood,positive ones at that.I remember the Jackal who was terrorizing Europe,the Munich olyimpics were innocent Isreal’s were murdered,the cruise ship that was hijacked and the Jewish man in the wheel chair was thrown overboard.
The hijacking of planes,the American serviceman shot in the head,and fell on the tarmac.An exocet that hit the USS Stark.The Beurit bombings.

Where am I going with this,the kids that are now say 15,20 or even 25 years old have absolutely no idea about the past history.
They don’t have a clue as to how much Syria,Iran has attacked the west,mainly Isreal,and the United States.
That is why a lot of these students have lived in a bubble
and that all they know.

Thats why these students or even libs don’t see the big world picture of our world history,because the only thing they know is only ten or twenty years ago!

canopfor on September 25, 2007 at 10:39 PM

So your saying that Ahmadinajon is Bi ? Polar ?

William Amos on September 25, 2007 at 10:44 PM

Bollinger is a tool who got used. Ask a tough question and let Ahmadinejad take it from there – for all his propaganda needs.

Bollinger’s got to make sure alumni donations don’t go completely down the drain.

Case in point – the jackass editor at the Colorado University who won’t resign after the F Bush banner and the large drop off of advertising.

BowHuntingTexas on September 25, 2007 at 10:45 PM

The fact is, the weight of the modern civilized world can’t even agree that al Qaeda, never mind the Iranian government, is a collection of brutes and terrorists.

They will. 911 wasn’t Pearl Harbor, it was maybe annexation of Austria. We’ve got our Pearl Harbor coming, and when it does, it will separate the ones who really are traitors from the ones who are just misguided, and ignorant of history, and canopfor notes. On another thread, you’ve the BBC boobs who are willing to throw gays and women under the bus in their eagerness to befriend the one who is the enemy of their enemy. Just wait til the Islamists lynch a few British gays some fine Sunday afternoon. Or beat a few young British lassies who have wandered into an Islamist neighborhood with the obligatory navels on display. The surprise will be so severe that there will a run on neck-braces in the medical supply stores. And then there will be a “realignment,” which is a BBC type word for waking up and smelling the coffee.

Which reminds of the “poem” I wrote that gave me this handle.

EURO-MORON, WHERE’VE YOU BEEN?

Yes Europe was righteous, a multi-culti idyll,
America hating, not to mention Israel.
But Madrid got train-blowed, and the Dutch got Van Goghed,
Then the Brits’ Tube blew too, next the French car-be-qued,
Then some Danes drew some pix, and the mullahs “passed” bricks.

To the Euros it’s news, but long known to us Jews:
Those Islamists are crazy, some might say fanatic,
But you’ve got to admit that they’re quite democratic.

A dhimmmi’s for killing, be you fat or a skinny one,
Be you lefty or veggie, or pro-Palestinian,
Be you Christian or secular, your skin white or toffee.
Now which Euro-morons will next smell the coffee?

I’m already submitting this posting for moderation.

smellthecoffee on September 25, 2007 at 10:52 PM

canopfor

you can date it back even further to the late 1700 to early 1800s when muslim pirates from north africa would hijack ships, steal cargo, and hold crews for ransom – the payoff going to those north african rulers. Tripoli i think?

God bless Jefferson for stopping the tributes and payments and fighting once elected President.

El Guapo on September 25, 2007 at 10:54 PM

Mahmoud’s send-off before heading to New York was a giant, Nazi-like goose step parade featuring banners that said “Death to America.”

Wow. Flashback to 1938. Sooner or later this madman is gonna hit Israel.

infidel4life on September 25, 2007 at 10:56 PM

whatever you say bryan

ernesto on September 25, 2007 at 10:57 PM

El Guapo on September 25, 2007 at 10:54 PM

Yup, the Bashaw of Tripoli. The Pirate Coast is a pretty good book on the subject.

Bryan on September 25, 2007 at 10:57 PM

smellthecoffee

the loudest people of this country and our children’s teachers are so ignorant thanks to revisionist and ommitted history (like my last quote about muslim pirates) that they will end up believing our next Peral Harbor is a result of (what they think is) “Bush’s war on Islam” for oil.

Me? I know for a fact it is coming and why. Having terrorists on the run and hiding is delaying it however.

El Guapo on September 25, 2007 at 10:58 PM

Wow. Flashback to 1938. Sooner or later this madman is gonna hit Israel.

infidel4life on September 25, 2007 at 10:56 PM

Doesnt it say in some islamic law that you must give ample (3) warnings or chances to convert or die before you can “rightiously” attack? If so isnt this his 3rd time speaking to the UN?

El Guapo on September 25, 2007 at 11:00 PM

Are we ever gonna do it?
Maybe we should go ahead and do it
Go ahead?
Feel the heat, pushing us to decide
Feel the heat, burning us up, ready or not

Some like it hot and some sweat
When the heat is on
Some feel the heat and decide that
They can´t go on
Some like it hot, but you can´t tell how hot
Til you try
Some like it hot, so let´s turn up the heat
Til Ahmadinejad fries

Some like it hot

- (Nuclear) Power Station

MB4 on September 25, 2007 at 11:01 PM

Fantastic post, Bryan. It was a terrible mistake to provide a terrorist with such a prestigious platform in which to lie to the modern civilized world. We are blessed with many great academics – and then there’s Bollinger.

thedecider on September 25, 2007 at 11:04 PM

He and his esteemed colleagues couldn’t agree that 9-11 was in fact a terrorist act. They couldn’t agree that mass murder of civilians going about their business constituted terrorism.

Just goes to show you….Educated does not equal smart. In fact it often equals the opposite.

conservnut on September 25, 2007 at 11:05 PM

conservnut

Who is worse? Those who cant define terrorism, or those who use the “eye of the beholder” line of crap?

I Don’t think either of them know they are legit targets too.

El Guapo on September 25, 2007 at 11:12 PM

Most of the weight of the modern civilized world yearns to pretend that there are no threats save the one at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue…

Sorry Bryan, but in your entire post, this is the one point I have to take exception of. We hear so much of a small segment of society which are the liberals who own so much of the media. Granted, I live in a conservative state and a conservative city, but I don’t get the impression that most people deny there are clear and dangerous threats against us. Yes, I’ve seen the polls and know that some indicate an increasing number of people who believe 9/11 was an inside job, or that our government (incredibly) knew of the attack in advance and did nothing to stop it. I don’t place a lot of stock in polls – of any kind. We have to remember that much of what we talk about is generated from liberal sources and remind ourselves that normal people honestly know better.

thedecider on September 25, 2007 at 11:26 PM

Bollinger’s Charles Spencer moment was not just a surprise, it was also one of the great political ambushes of modern times.

Fully agreed with. There is something powerful about letting that midget (physical and mental) attempt to stand up on the world’s largest podium, only to flail in his own nonsense.

On Mr. Bollinger’s “ambush” Machiavelli would be very proud. I said that for you Nonfactor. I liked his speech very much, understanding also Bryan’s perspectives.

Sitting alone under a spotlight on the darkened stage, Ahmadinejad looked silly, vulnerable and (tiny).

Entelechy on September 25, 2007 at 11:35 PM

El Guapo on September 25, 2007 at 10:58 PM

. . .they will end up believing our next Peral Harbor is a result of (what they think is) “Bush’s war on Islam” for oil.

In my darker moments I’ve worried about that, too. But these lefty loons, they are living, thinking, speaking, writing, in and about a world of pure abstraction. It’s almost like they are living a waking dream which makes the unreality of their perspectives seem plausible. When the sh*t hits, not the fan, but their fan–that will be them falling out of bed with a bump, and saying, “Wow, dude, that was like some wierd dream I was having. Like Bush was like this Hitler dude, and we were all marching around and screaming stuff. . . this really dumb Sheehan broad was like our guru . . . aw, never mind, it was just a dream. Remind me not to drink any beer while I’m coming down from mushrooms. Anyway, whatthef*ck–where can I get a freakin’ gun around here?”

If you go back to the example of Israel after the Wye River Plantation talks, where Bill Clinton shot the moon in his bid for a legacy beyond Lewinsky and lost, it is instructive. Now keep in mind, the Israeli loony left is just as nutso as ours–if not worse. I mean, bus and cafe bombings were going off all over, and you’re still bleating about the poor, oppressed Palestinians? They had something like low to mid 20 percent identifying with their positions in polls, so besotted were large numbers of Israelis with the opium of Oslo. Talk about war fatigue! Then Barak made that ridiculous offer giving the Pals sovereignty over the Temple Mount, Arafat walked out w/o a counter offer, and within weeks started Intifada, the Sequel, and the Shalom Achshav (Peace Now) movement saw their poll numbers drop to single digits in a matter of weeks. Talking about a big sucking sound. After 7 years of bleating about “trust” and “Oslo” and all that crap–poof, it was like, “Let’s kick their a**es,” except for a tiny irredeemable minority. I think it can, and it will happen here. The only question is how many people will have to die before it does.

smellthecoffee on September 25, 2007 at 11:35 PM

The only question is how many people will have to die before it does.

smellthecoffee

We shouldn’t even have to think of that question let alone ask it. But in 1939-40, I am sure the same debate was going on.

normal people honestly know better.

thedecider

Waht is sad is that normal people don’t even know. But ask them about reality TV or American Idol and they will think they are geniouses. I am AD military, and I am forced to work with people who dont even know simple American history or how the US Gov’t works. (some really think FEMA should be the first responder instead of the the local gov’t, mayor, fire dept., etc.)

El Guapo on September 25, 2007 at 11:45 PM

It’s amazing how much people misunderstand about this. First of all, Bollinger did not decide to invite Ahmadinejad-it was an invitation from the Columbia School of International and Public Affairs (SIPA), which hosts these “World Leaders Forum ” things all the time. Second, on the same day that it first became common public knowledge that Ahamdinejad would speak, Bollinger published a statement in the Columbia Newspaper (here) that basically outlined exactly what he would do and say. The only surprise that anyone (Including Ahmadinejad) should have at his actions is that he actually followed through on what he said he would do. Furthermore, to claim that public outrage caused Bollinger to do damage control is incorrect. He had crafted his statements before this event was widely publicized. It could be that he decided preemptively to speak out against Ahmadinejad to blunt some of the criticism, but not because of the outrage that built over last weekend.

Big S on September 25, 2007 at 11:51 PM

My point is that it is always the academics that enable these pieces of trash all down through history. These guys may be pretty bright but lack any common sense about the real world beyond their ivory towers of wisdom. This is the way it was during WW2 with Hitler. There will always be a long line of “intellectuals” advising us, “the great unwashed” about how we should appease and negotiate and that we are the real reason that they are the way they are.
These are the same types of jackballs that think socialism and Marxism are good ideas that just haven’t been given a proper chance. And the same type that invite lunatics like this guy to speak at universities to enlighten our youngsters.

I’m sure if ol’ Adolf was still around, he would get an invite too.

conservnut on September 25, 2007 at 11:53 PM

conservnut, Big S

True. But hats off to Bollinger for actually slamming Ammah-jihad. Freedom of speach only sucks for those who have things to hide and can’t handle the truth.

El Guapo on September 26, 2007 at 12:01 AM

conservnut

Who is worse? Those who cant define terrorism, or those who use the “eye of the beholder” line of crap?

I Don’t think either of them know they are legit targets too.

El Guapo on September 25, 2007 at 11:12 PM

They don’t believe any of this will ever actually touch them. So they could care less.

That’s one of the comfort lines in the approved thinking points with which they’re constantly pumped. “It’ll never touch you.”

It’s part of an assumptive mental illness that has reached epidemic proportions worldwide, imho. Spread by repeated evangelism with mantra-like consistancy to unquestioning, willing, and eager ears. Lib religion.

Our educational institutions and our media are directly responsible.

smellthecoffee on September 25, 2007 at 10:52 PM

I agree with you. The turnaround is going to be brutally swift, when it comes. But people forget that we as a country bonded together at every level during WWII in an amazingly massive effort to arm and protect ourselves.

We’re gonna have to do it again too. And soon.

techno_barbarian on September 26, 2007 at 12:11 AM

conservnut on September 25, 2007 at 11:53 PM

These guys may be pretty bright but lack any common sense about the real world beyond their ivory towers of wisdom.

smellthecoffee on September 25, 2007 at 11:35 PM

But these lefty loons, they are living, thinking, speaking, writing, in and about a world of pure abstraction.

I’m with you on that.

But if you kick them in the shin, they don’t quote post-modern literary theory, they tell you to get f*cked, or they kick you back. As long as it’s over there, they can maintain their fashionable detachment, but when it reaches out and touches them (like a Beslan in their town), they won’t be quoting Rev. Tutu. All of a sudden they’ll sound like some kind of Sargeant Rock.

smellthecoffee on September 26, 2007 at 12:11 AM

Limerick on September 25, 2007 at 10:30 PM

Dropping him off the Coney Island Pier would be OK, but it’s really not that far down. I’d rather drop him off at Shoot the Freak, and go a few rounds.

Big S on September 26, 2007 at 12:11 AM

The other night TBN (a channel I almost never watch) showed the movie “Exodus”, about the founding of the modern state of Israel. Made in 1960, accurately depicting historical events in 1946-48 (including the collusion between Nazis and Arabs even after the war), I was astonished at how relevant it is regarding the situation in the present day middle-east. Excellent film. Hollywood had not yet sold out to the left. Rent it if you get a chance.

infidel4life on September 26, 2007 at 12:14 AM

But people forget that we as a country bonded together at every level during WWII in an amazingly massive effort to arm and protect ourselves.

We’re gonna have to do it again too. And soon.

techno_barbarian on September 26, 2007 at 12:11 AM

And then the fence sitters will be forced to sh*t or get off the pot. Lotsa folks will be “smelling the coffee” for the first time.

infidel4life on September 26, 2007 at 12:19 AM

“It’ll never touch you.” – techno_barbarian

I often have that arguement with my troops and comrads and have to get on them for it. Complacency always gets you killed (like the chow hall suicide bombing in Iraq).

El Guapo on September 26, 2007 at 12:26 AM

And then the fence sitters will be forced to sh*t or get off the pot. Lotsa folks will be “smelling the coffee” for the first time.

infidel4life on September 26, 2007 at 12:19 AM

Yep.

Those like the shehag will only have their spells broken when they are utterly humiliated.

History is going to look back in humiliation and disgust at the actions of an alarming number of people on the social and political stage right now. And the damned fools will have definitely earned it.

techno_barbarian on September 26, 2007 at 12:27 AM

I often have that arguement with my troops and comrads and have to get on them for it. Complacency always gets you killed (like the chow hall suicide bombing in Iraq).

El Guapo on September 26, 2007 at 12:26 AM

Thank you for your Service and your Sacrifice. I and my family are exceedingly grateful and appreciative.

techno_barbarian on September 26, 2007 at 12:30 AM

techno_barbarian – History is going to look back in humiliation and disgust at the actions of an alarming number of people on the social and political stage right now.

I don’t now. The way history is being
“revisioned/retaught” in a lot of schools and universities and ommitted by the MSM, I think the future of educated Americans is doomed.

El Guapo on September 26, 2007 at 12:33 AM

The turnaround is going to be brutally swift, when it comes.

Can you believe the Dutch, the most ridiculously multi-culti, “tolerant” people in Europe torched some Muslim schools after Van Gogh murder? If it can happen there, it can definitely happen here. I hope it doesn’t get expressed in vigilantism, just a reasonable level of unity and resolve to do what needs to be done.

smellthecoffee on September 26, 2007 at 12:37 AM

The way history is being
“revisioned/retaught” in a lot of schools and universities and ommitted by the MSM, I think the future of educated Americans is doomed.

El Guapo on September 26, 2007 at 12:33 AM

I consider myself fortunate that when I went through our public education system decades ago, history was still being taught relatively accurately. And although left wing thinking was definitely presented as a point of view, it was not the only point of view. We were expected to think and decide for ourselves, unlike the indoctrination that happens today.

How much things can change in a few short years.

infidel4life on September 26, 2007 at 12:48 AM

I don’t now. The way history is being
“revisioned/retaught” in a lot of schools and universities and ommitted by the MSM, I think the future of educated Americans is doomed.

El Guapo on September 26, 2007 at 12:33 AM

When that brutally swift change of mind happens, people are gonna be curious as to why everything they thought they knew for sure turned out to be so completely wrong.

I’m not saying that the revisionists aren’t hard at work and, so far, frightenly effective, but at some point ‘accepted wisdom’ truely is going to get questioned.

I can’t wait for it to be open season in the competitive news media again against some of the unbridled current lunacy. Feeding frenzy of epic proportions.

I’m very hopeful right now. We’re at the tipping point now. Closer and closer every single day. I know it doesn’t seem like it sometimes, but things are just starting to swing back in a more sane direction. Like cresting the top of a rollercoaster.

techno_barbarian on September 26, 2007 at 12:49 AM

How much things can change in a few short years.

infidel4life on September 26, 2007 at 12:48 AM

Like the monopolizing of the education system? What eventually happens in every monopoly, socialism or communism? Prices go up, quality and reliability go down.

Thank God I went to school back then too!

El Guapo on September 26, 2007 at 12:54 AM

I can’t wait for it to be open season in the competitive news media again against some of the unbridled current lunacy.

Would you consider Murdock’s purchase of WSJ a sign of this turn-around?

El Guapo on September 26, 2007 at 12:59 AM

Open seaon may never happen if the “fairness doctrine” is re-introduced and passed. libs can’t understand capitolism and why their shows fail especially on radio. Advertisers go where the audience is. You may be able to force a network to have a show, but you can’t force people to listen to it or watch it.

El Guapo on September 26, 2007 at 1:02 AM

Would you consider Murdock’s purchase of WSJ a sign of this turn-around?

El Guapo on September 26, 2007 at 12:59 AM

Interesting question.

I think Murdock’s in it for the money and he sees progressive media declining and conservative media growing and profitable. It’s a good business decision. I don’t know if his owning it will mean that editorial tone will change. I don’t know enough to speak intelligently about that.

To be honest, I’m not seeing a whole lot of the turn-around manifesting just yet. At this point we’re still nearing the breakover point. The upcoming political season’s fight for the public’s attention is where I think we’ll start to see the knives come out against those previously treated with reverence. Especially the dem primary battles.

techno_barbarian on September 26, 2007 at 1:12 AM

techno_barbarian

I agree. The money is where the ads are. And the advertisers go where the viewers/listeners are. Too bad he wont buy out NYT and turn them around.

What is this is hear about Murdock actually donating to Dem candidates?

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/05/09/politics/main1600694.shtml

I guess he isn’t a rightwing neocon-Jew New World Order advocate afterall.

El Guapo on September 26, 2007 at 1:19 AM

Open seaon may never happen if the “fairness doctrine” is re-introduced and passed. libs can’t understand capitolism and why their shows fail especially on radio. Advertisers go where the audience is. You may be able to force a network to have a show, but you can’t force people to listen to it or watch it.

El Guapo on September 26, 2007 at 1:02 AM

I’m not talking about attacks coming from the right on the left. I’m talking blue on blue here. Until that fight happens and some kind of sanity prevails, the Conservative voice will only be heard by those already listening.

Once the facade cracks, all kinds of teachable moments are possible.

As to the fairness doctrine, that one could bite the left right squarely in the ass. It would mean that legally opposing viewpoints have to be presented together. The leftists think they’re the ones being under-represented, a totally laughable misassumption.

The fairness doctrine’s a lousy idea, and completely counter to free market principles, and I sincerely hope it is not foisted upon us. Freedom of choice is the way to go.

techno_barbarian on September 26, 2007 at 1:21 AM

And speaking of Murdock, I’m more concerned with the percentage of FNC currently owned by Arab interests. And that goes for NASDAQ and other strategic institutions here in the good ol’ US of A.

But lately (almost a year now) I’m rebelling against the lot of them. About the only thing we use our dish for is commercial-free music these days. And Mythbusters. Thank God hockey season starts next week.

Go Stars

techno_barbarian on September 26, 2007 at 1:28 AM

I’m not talking about attacks coming from the right on the left. I’m talking blue on blue here. Until that fight happens and some kind of sanity prevails, the Conservative voice will only be heard by those already listening.

I think there should be another conservative revolution as well. Pork spending, corruption, homosexual-adultry, etc, is not what I want in my party. If you’re gay, fine, just don’t cheat on your wife/family, because then I will wonder “who else will you betray for your personal pleasure?”

Ever notice how fast the Democrat-Page scandals disappeared? Why else would you get a hotel room with only one bed for you and your Page? You certainly aren’t on a budget crunch.

El Guapo on September 26, 2007 at 1:29 AM

And speaking of Murdock, I’m more concerned with the percentage of FNC currently owned by Arab interests.

I know of that too! But i am not sure they actually control the content. I still see specials about radical islam, bill o’reilly slamming saudi arabia for funding radical islam, Fox News coverage of specials on other channels (like PBS) that are canceled because the PC police think it is insitivie to Islam (instead of the truth), etc.

El Guapo on September 26, 2007 at 1:33 AM

Ever notice how fast the Democrat-Page scandals disappeared? Why else would you get a hotel room with only one bed for you and your Page? You certainly aren’t on a budget crunch.

El Guapo on September 26, 2007 at 1:29 AM

Agreed. There will never be a better time for the gop to clean up its act and toss the majority of our problems out of office.

As for the dems and their precious pages; gotta hand that to the ever-present double standards to which each party is held (or not,as the case may be).

Enjoyed the conversation. Responsibility calls me to bed. Enjoy the rest of your evening, all you fine folks.

techno_barbarian on September 26, 2007 at 1:54 AM

Fox News coverage of specials on other channels (like PBS) that are canceled because the PC police think it is insitivie to Islam (instead of the truth), etc.

El Guapo on September 26, 2007 at 1:33 AM

Yep. I’m still waiting to see that documentary on islamic Apostates that got pulled on PBS. We paid for it. I want to see it and also have the opportunity to buy the DVD so I can show others.

Must. Sleep.

techno_barbarian on September 26, 2007 at 1:58 AM

that documentary on islamic Apostates that got pulled on PBS

OK exactly what was the name of that documentary? PBS has dozens of Islam related materail.

El Guapo on September 26, 2007 at 2:09 AM

techno_barbarian

According to this, it is not even available for purchase!

http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/145664.aspx

http://www.shoppbs.org/search/noResults.jsp?kw=islam+versus+islamists

Another liberal/Clinton result?

El Guapo on September 26, 2007 at 2:12 AM

“Today, after his brutal and unexpected denunciation of Ahmadinejad as a cruel and ridiculous tyrant, the Columbia president has suddenly gone from a leftie pariah to a rolled-gold American hero.”

Surely that should be “after his brutal and unexpected denunciation of Ahmadinejad COMMA a cruel and ridiculous tyrant COMMA the Columbia president etc”.

Apeking on September 26, 2007 at 7:49 AM

doesn’t alter the fact that the invitation itself was a mistake and that the entire spectacle diminished Columbia even while it also diminished the tyrant, somewhat.

Oh please. Why was it a mistake to get Ahmadinejad to come to a place he thought he’d be safe in only to have his ass handed to him on a silver platter? I’m tired of “We shouldn’t legitimize him” crap. We “legitimize” liberals who murder unborn children by the millions and geopardize everybody’s safety with what amounts to pure treason through their constant cuddling with our worst enemies all the time. IMO, there’s no way this incident can result in anything other than good. If even one liberal looks at these events and thinks “What the hell is wrong with my fellow progressives?” then it’s all worth it. So allow me to be the first right winger to say it, and say it proud: I

Darth Executor on September 26, 2007 at 8:18 AM

That should end in I Love Bollinger.

Darth Executor on September 26, 2007 at 8:19 AM

Another liberal/Clinton result?

El Guapo on September 26, 2007 at 2:12 AM

Dunno about the clintoon connection, but definitely a result of lefty dhimmitude.

You mentioned the number of programs about islam on PBS; the challenge with that is the fact that the vast majority of those programs are deceptive multi-culti pro-islam propaganda rather than accurate and truely balanced information with which someone could actually make an informed decision.

Sad but true.

techno_barbarian on September 26, 2007 at 10:13 AM

The left has a HUGE moral blind spot. And until the Moderate Democrats loudly and publicly denegrate and deride the leftist extremists currently at the helm of their particular political ship, the maddness will continue.

But folks are starting to cock a critical eye in the direction of their mighty captains.

The damage they’ve already caused will take years to repair, but those repairs will happen eventually.

techno_barbarian on September 26, 2007 at 10:20 AM

It was either exquisite damage control or a perfectly laid ambush.

In either case, it is disappointing to me that more attention is given to Bollinger’s motives than his message.

desertdweller on September 26, 2007 at 11:01 AM

Good points about ‘dinnerjacket’ warning us. Doesn’t their ‘book’ say they have to warn their victims before they attack? Could this be it? Is it possible once they have the bomb, since they can deliver it already, that they won’t hesitate using it on the Israelis? Of course, hopefully, the Israelis will respond 10 or 20 fold and permanently ersae this evil from the world.

countywolf on September 26, 2007 at 11:41 AM

These half dozen brilliant minds could be engaged at the drop of a data set in a passionate, heated argument over whether Pluto is in fact a planet or just one distant body among many, but they could not take a stand that the hijackers were wrong and that it would be right to destroy the organization that supported and directed them.

I’m not sure if this is an example of liberalism run amok, or an example of brilliant people who you wonder how they get through life without being hit by a bus…

crazy_legs on September 26, 2007 at 12:03 PM

Here was the warning delivered at the U.N.:

AHMADINEJAD (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): This is the invitation of all the divine prophets, from Adam to Noah, Abraham, Moses, Jesus Christ, and Mohammed, peace be upon up him. If they accept this invitation, they will be saved. And if they don’t, the same calamities that befell the people of distant past will befall them, as well.

According to the Holy Koran, one who does not answer the divine call should not think that he has weakened God on earth. He has no companion but God and he is clearly engulfed by darkness. They have nothing of their own and cannot escape from the dominion of the rule of God and his will.

desertdweller on September 26, 2007 at 12:33 PM

This is what pacifism in the Vietnam war era and the counter culture has wrought us: intelligent, educated, blithering, pale faced pacifists.

Don’t call such dithering “pacifism.” Pacifists are at least principled enough to take a stand.

calbear on September 26, 2007 at 3:36 PM