Video: Glorious free-speech moment slightly less glorious than thought

posted at 11:04 am on September 24, 2007 by Allahpundit

Closed to the public, no protest signs allowed, questions to be asked via index card with no back-and-forth between the students and honored guest. A “free exchange of ideas” indeed. In a way I’m glad, though: this puts all the pressure on Bollinger to grill him. If he softballs him — which he probably won’t lest the few remaining scraps of his credibility end up in the toilet — he’ll never hear the end of it.

Some of New York State’s powers that be are threatening Columbia with a cut-off of government aid. Don’t believe it; this will be forgotten by everyone but the right within a week. Meanwhile, Gateway Pundit has photos of Mahdi greeting 1,500 starstruck Iranian fascists last night in the heart of the western world’s greatest city.

Anyone know if this trainwreck is being simulcast anywhere, incidentally? The Freepers thought Voice of America might be carrying it but I don’t see anything on the website. Click the image to watch.

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“A free exchange of Ideas.” Indocrination does not allow responses.

volsense on September 24, 2007 at 11:10 AM

Oh, good. PJM says anti-Imanutjob protesters were evicted from Ground Zero.

Andrew Marcus – on video assignment for PJM – reports that the Port Authority evicted protesters from Ground Zero this morning. Group – including family members of 9/11 victims – was in front of the PATH station protesting possible appearance at Ground Zero by Ahmadinejad.

amerpundit on September 24, 2007 at 11:13 AM

Why am I not surprised that it’s closed to the public? Can you imagine the uproar if someone asked this man an actual critical question??

I was hoping someone would ask him what he’s going to do since the IAF managed to outwit the defense system that both Iran and Syria use and how he thinks he’s going to outsmart the Israelis since they can clearly take numerous advantages of the vulnerabilities in his nation’s security. I would imagine a full out hissy fit by ol’ Mahmoud would ensue. But even if this was a “free exchange of ideas” someone asking him an actual question that requires some intelligence and Ahmadinejad would have to answer with something other than “It’s the Zionists,” Katrina, President Bush, etc., etc.

Free speech indeed.

mjk on September 24, 2007 at 11:15 AM

sometimes… I feel their anger, we did in fact arm their enemy, who killed who knows how many of their people. eventually there has to be a point where we apologize to the people of Iran for giving chemical and biological weapons to their enemy. right? and by them, I don’t mean the Islamic Regime in power I mean the people of Persia. or have we already apologised for that?

Kaptain Amerika on September 24, 2007 at 11:18 AM

Whole thing is such a farce.

Spirit of 1776 on September 24, 2007 at 11:18 AM

What a difference 6 years make.
Now we’re the bad guys, welcoming the “good guys”.
I’m sick of the liberal left. I really am.

SuperManGreenLantern on September 24, 2007 at 11:19 AM

Sounds like a Klintonian “town hall meeting”.

Tony737 on September 24, 2007 at 11:20 AM

Index cards and no back and forth exchange is not a ‘free exchange of ideas’.

Good question being asked in the interview: Will dinnerjacket allow Bush to make a speech to the Iranian University students? He probably wouldn’t even allow Rosie to make a speech.

I think Bollinger will softball his hero. No matter what is asked the media will portray it as a ‘grilling’ and Bollinger be given a free pass.

CrazyFool on September 24, 2007 at 11:21 AM

Free speech indeed.

mjk on September 24, 2007 at 11:15 AM

The first thing I noticed in the video clip was a nutroot blowing a whistle trying to prevent the people on the sidewalk from expressing there outrage at the universities willingness to allow human garbage to speak there.

“Free speech indeed”.

Sgt. Khe Sahn

1GooDDaDDy on September 24, 2007 at 11:23 AM

sometimes… I feel their anger, we did in fact arm their enemy, who killed who knows how many of their people. eventually there has to be a point where we apologize to the people of Iran for giving chemical and biological weapons to their enemy. right? and by them, I don’t mean the Islamic Regime in power I mean the people of Persia. or have we already apologised for that?

Kaptain Amerika on September 24, 2007 at 11:18 AM

Beh. I don’t feel the need to apologize for something like that. It was something of pitting the one Soviet Russia backed and the one the US backed. Has Soviet Russia ever apologized for their role in that? Or arming Egypt for the Yom Kippur War? Or the gulags?
I’m afraid to say that even if Russia and the US stayed out of the Iran-Iraq war, they’d still would have found ways to massacre each other.

Perhaps, the US should apologize for carpet bombing Dresden or nuking Japan during WW2 as well.

mjk on September 24, 2007 at 11:23 AM

It isn’t surprising to me, but no less sad. They talk about how he will see the great ‘free speech’ of the west, but when he gets here, we turn the format into something he would be comfortable in Iran. This will allow him to say, we do the same thing in Iran – we are just like you.

Again, we need to let Europe host the UN for a few decades please. Kick the UN out of the US.

ThackerAgency on September 24, 2007 at 11:24 AM

Mahdi

Why are you giving him a cute little name now?

lorien1973 on September 24, 2007 at 11:28 AM

I will consider an apology only after their apology for taking hostages and keeping them for almost 400 days! As far as I am concerned Iran declared war on the US in November of 1979! Anything we supplied to Iraq to defeat them was fair game.

bopbottle on September 24, 2007 at 11:30 AM

Even if Bollinger does ask “tough” questions, the hairy munchkin isn’t going to answer them. He’ll just dissemble and change the subject.

JammieWearingFool on September 24, 2007 at 11:31 AM

Meanwhile, Gateway Pundit has photos of Mahdi greeting 1,500 starstruck Iranian fascists last night in the heart of the western world’s greatest city.

Wonder if they were this group

The national Iranian American Council

http://www.niacouncil.org/

Is important because of this guy who was on its board

The Clinton campaign has done as much if not more than
any campaign to protect itself from situations such as
this, and none of the other campaigns, other than
hypocritically, can point a finger at the Clinton
campaign on fund-raising problems,” said Hassan
Nemazee
, who is a fund-raising bundler for Mrs.
Clinton, as Mr. Hsu had been.

some background

http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-news/1066568/posts

Hassan Nemazee, an Iranian American financier based in
New York, was on the board of the American Iranian
Council when that organization arranged for President
Clinton’s secretary of state, Madeleine Albright, to
apologize for America’s role in the 1953 coup that
brought the Shah to power in Iran.

William Amos on September 24, 2007 at 11:34 AM

Even if Bollinger does ask “tough” questions, the hairy munchkin isn’t going to answer them. He’ll just dissemble and change the subject attack Jews.

JammieWearingFool on September 24, 2007 at 11:31 AM

FTFY

Bad Candy on September 24, 2007 at 11:37 AM

Closed to the public, no protest signs allowed, questions to be asked via index card with no back-and-forth between the students and honored guest.

Don’t haze me, bro!

saint kansas on September 24, 2007 at 11:43 AM

Closed to the public, no protest signs allowed, questions to be asked via index card with no back-and-forth between the students and honored guest.

Free speech for he but not for thee?

I’ll be spending the day fantasizing there’s an F-22 sitting in a hangar somewhere on the east coast dangling an AMRAAM with a “black” EMP warhead in its main bay, waiting to cause an inexplicable failure of all the electrical systems on an outbound diplomatic flight over the mid-Atlantic. But I’m guessing it’s about as realistic as the one involving me, Heather Naughert, and Julie Banderas…

Blacklake on September 24, 2007 at 11:44 AM

Sounds like they want to create the exact same situation he has at his home press conferences.

Hard to think anything except “F*** Columbia!”

MadisonConservative on September 24, 2007 at 11:48 AM

Breaking News!

Jonh Coatsworth (acting Dean) of Columbia U. is now being interviewed on CSPAN-2 defending the schools position on their new speaker today.

Sgt. Khe Sahn

1GooDDaDDy on September 24, 2007 at 11:55 AM

first, we were mad because Columbia invited such a nutjob to speak.

now, we’re mad because we aren’t getting enough access…

???

ernesto on September 24, 2007 at 11:57 AM

Kaptain Amerika on September 24, 2007 at 11:18 AM

Moral relavance? What an idiotic way of looking at things. They sponsered a gov. that raped children, then murdered them in front of the parents, raped women, killed women, killed dissidents, destroyed thousands with bio chemicals, let the parents watch as their children were ripped apart by dogs just to gain information. And this during “peace”.

Your post is filthy…that is the mentality that allows these dictators to roam the world with immunity. That is how the Idi Amans, and others that have followed continue their murderous rampage. That is how millions of Cambodians are murdered, tens of thousands of Koreans are imprisoned and killed, Darfur, and many other counties mired in dictators that murder at will. And your answer, isn’t to condemn, but to fell sorry for the poor leaders.
You feel their pain…where have I heard that before?

Too bad you can’t feel the pain of the thousands of families whose fathers were pulled out of bed in the middle of the night and shot in front of the house and ordered to have him left there as a message. Too bad you can’t feel the pain of the parents who have watched their children consumed by rabid dogs, or a husband whose wife was raped by soldiers…too bad you can’t feel that pain. You live here and you get to pick and choose what “pain” you want to feel.

right2bright on September 24, 2007 at 11:57 AM

ernesto on September 24, 2007 at 11:57 AM

Yes. We didn’t want him to be welcomed, but since the school’s not changing its mind on that, the public should at least be allowed to challenge and show their discontent.

amerpundit on September 24, 2007 at 11:59 AM

Blackfive brought up a good point. Why does Columbia University refuse to allow ROTC on campus because they “discriminate” against homosexuals while letting the leader of a country that still hangs homosexuals speak? I wonder if any of the progressives at Columbia will get to ask write down on an index card any questions about Iran’s treatment of homosexuals?

BohicaTwentyTwo on September 24, 2007 at 12:01 PM

Kaptain Amerika on September 24, 2007 at 11:18 AM

Right after they apologize for 1979, chump.

MadisonConservative on September 24, 2007 at 12:01 PM

“Latest Breaking News”

The “Hairy Yak” is now being interviewed by the National Press Club” on C-SPAN 2.

Sgt. Khe Sahn

1GooDDaDDy on September 24, 2007 at 12:18 PM

Protest signs are strictly prohibited.

However, Jimmy Carter will be allowed to bring a gallon jug of Anal Lube.

saint kansas on September 24, 2007 at 12:26 PM

Can somebody please explain it to me where in the first amendment dose it says we have to give a platform to our enemies?

Am I missing something???
Is it the nuances??
Do I have to wear a tinfoil hat to understand it?

Mojack420 on September 24, 2007 at 12:49 PM

This is an outrage. I am sick to my stomach. My poor country…

ronsfi on September 24, 2007 at 1:08 PM

Can somebody please explain it to me where in the first amendment dose it says we have to give a platform to our enemies?

Am I missing something???

Mojack420 on September 24, 2007 at 12:49 PM

Free speech rights pertain to the government not abridging anyone’s free speech. Columbia is not required or obligated to provide a platform for IAmAWhackJob. They have the freedom to do so. But that should not be confused with an obligation to do so, except maybe in their own twisted thinking.

Mallard T. Drake on September 24, 2007 at 1:19 PM

Protester’s sign in the video clip:
IAmAWhackJob = Bad
Bush = Worse

All I can do is shake my head and hope that whoever came up with that sign never has anymore authority in society than requiring his employees to flip the burgers with thier left hand and not their right.

Mallard T. Drake on September 24, 2007 at 1:23 PM

I’m surprised Sean Penn isn’t covering this event for the San Francisco Chronicle.

kiakjones on September 24, 2007 at 1:25 PM

I just want AlPu to reconcile these two quotes:

If he [Bollinger] softballs him [Ahmadinejad] — which he probably won’t lest the few remaining scraps of his credibility end up in the toilet — he’ll never hear the end of it.

and

this will be forgotten by everyone but the right within a week

Obviously, Bollinger cares not a particle what the Right thinks, so from whom will he never hear the end of it?

Annoying Old Guy on September 24, 2007 at 1:42 PM

“A free exchange of Ideas.” Indocrination does not allow responses.

No one here is going to be indoctrinated I can assure you – this is NY, and your assumption that the indoctrinating has already taken place is unfounded.

Many believe this is not free speech – we believe this is hate speech. Everything this man says falls under the category of hanging nooses from a “Persian” tree.

This is an outrage. I am sick to my stomach. My poor country…

Indeed, nooses on a “white tree” down South and him having a platform to spew anti-Jewish hate in NYC is all considered free speech in America.

We are obviously spiritually and morally bankrupt in the year 2007.

AprilOrit on September 24, 2007 at 1:44 PM

An outraged Hugh Hewitt had Juan Williams and Morton Kondracke on his program last Friday night. Both Juan and Morton thought it was just swell that AmaDEMijad was going to speak at Colombia.

Why? Because of the merciless grilling they’re sure he will receive from the Colombia students.

The fatuous naivete of the liberal elites never ceases to amaze me.

Kensington on September 24, 2007 at 1:51 PM

Why does Columbia University refuse to allow ROTC on campus because they “discriminate” against homosexuals while letting the leader of a country that still hangs homosexuals speak?

Some of the Moonbat message boards are calling this comparing apples and oranges. AmaDEMijad is only speaking once, whereas the ROTC wants to set up permanent shop.

Yeah, it doesn’t make any sense to me, either, but that’s how they’re rationalizing this.

Kensington on September 24, 2007 at 1:54 PM