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Georgej,Shining the light of truth on the othersde,Amen.

georgej on September 22, 2007 at 4:36 PM

The good news?
They don’t have the stones to back up their words.

Well, I hope it doesn’t happen. Truly, I don’t.

But the unrestrained anger felt by your side about Bush and the war, and the inability of the Democrats to do your bidding and end the war/impeach Bush as your side demands can have only one outcome.

“REV-OH-LOO-SHEE-ON.”

If there is going to be a putsch (and I hope there isn’t), I have zero doubt that YOUR side will start it. Why? YOUR side desecrated the Wall, not mine, after all. YOUR side vandalized the capitol steps, not mine. MM and Bryan have videos of YOUR side acting like foul-mouthed goons on the 15th.

If you read DU (before the moderators ratholes the entries), the threats of violence, including assassinating Bush/Cheney are there. If you read DKOS, well, let me say, the “edge” isn’t there to sit down and sing kumbaya with Republicans. And at Huffie, they couldn’t delete the comments fast enough for the wish that Cheney got blown up when he went to Afghanistan.

And remember, it is YOUR side that shouts down conservative speakers at colleges and universities, and in once case, charging the stage to physically shut them up. And that doesn’t include the “pie assaults” on conservative speakers that never seem to happen to leftist speakers.

And it is YOUR side that shoots up the local offices of the opposition party, invades them, assaults their workers, and vandalized their vehicles. The Republicans did none of that in 2004.

I have yet to see any of our conservative premier website/blogsites call for the murder of Hillary, Edwards, Obama, or anybody else. I cannot say the same for those on your side, though your moderators try very hard to cover them up. I have yet to read about REPUBLICANS invading Democratic Party offices and either trashing them, stealing their computers, or hurting campaign workers.

While my side does despise most of you on your side, I sense a “civility line” still binding us, that does not bind you. Jane Hamsher at firedoglake is just ONE example.

My side still wants to discuss ideas in the marketplace of ideas. YOUR side want to march, protest, demonstrate, and speak “truth to power” in the streets in order to get your way. Other than to counter your side’s demonstrations, like last weekend, I can’t see to recall very many demonstrations that my side calls on it’s own. And, unlike Chicago last spring, or SF or LA, any demonstrations my side calls don’t shut down major cities.

Rather than DISCUSS in civil discourse, when you “take to the streets” you evoke memories of mob violence, because that is connotation of what the term “take to the streets” means.

I hope that “frank exchanges of views” here in the blogosphere (a marketplace of ideas) is the worst of it, but I wonder if (or when) the open and obvious growing level of frustration on your side will cross that line.

Was the attack on Petreaus the signal that it is now okay to call the troops babykillers and to spit on them? That IS what YOUR side did 35 years ago. And yes, this is WELL documented that the troops were spit on and called nasty names.

If your moveon types do lose control, and open violence breaks out, your side not only won’t win, but I am saying that the political backlash alone will take down the Democratic Party because of the investment, monetary and emotional, that the nutjobs have with the Party, even if EVERYBODY at the DNC is opposed to violence.

Ask yourself two questions:

1. What happens if the Republicans win back Congress and keep the Presidency? Don’t scoff, because every time the nutjobs at moveon do stupid things like that “Betrayus” ad, the chances of the Republicans winning get better. And if the Republicans do win in 2008, WHAT WILL THE NUTJOBS AT MOVEON DO? We know they refused to accept the *2* victories of George W. Bush. Will they riot like they threatened to do in 2000 and 2004?

2. What happens after January 20, 2009, when Bush leaves office (and he will *not* leave office earlier unless assassinated or because of illness). Who are you people going to hate then?

Hate is a powerful emotion and your side is using it to concentrate and focus on Bush and the war in Iraq. With Bush gone, DO YOU REALLY THINK THAT THE NUTJOBS IN CHARGE AT MOVEON ARE GOING TO STAND DOWN? Do you really think that things are going to return to normal?

Hatred is POWER. YOUR side has it and uses it and we all know instinctively that power is a narcotic. So, whom are the nutjobs going to hate next?

Over to you….

She sees the awful light Democrats have cast on themselves by disparaging the integrity of Petraus and Hillary is not the least of which.

Allahpundit on September 22, 2007 at 2:47 PM

Got it and your right..I’m not sitting in a bar discussing this stuff. Won’t happen again.

So let her do her job, and that way, we can all continue to receive pleasure from viewing her and listening to her well-thought-out commentary. I don’t agree with her conclusions, but I very much appreciate hearing what the other side is thinking.
Tennman on September 22, 2007 at 10:17 AM

Not that it matters, since in most cases their points/ideas are irrelevant anyway – but I get your point – we can watch them go over the cliff, which does have entertainment value – which is probably why AP likes her, which of course, is another source of constant entertainment.

So everybody wins.. :)

Good morning everybody!

What has happened to our great country?

unseen on September 21, 2007 at 10:31 PM

The left doesn’t recognize personal responsibility comes with freedom and the right has become afraid to let people be free.

Both think the governement can solve all problems and ills with another law on the books, and the citizens of this country are more than willing to let them proceed.

ThackerAgency on September 22, 2007 at 9:46 AM

I took it to mean that you would have to overlook the plot holes to take the report at face value i.e. an omission of some negative facts to highlight the positive. I agree with Gen. Petraeus and his report, and cannot emphasize enough how much I disagree with the moveon crowd, I’m just saying I can see where Powers is coming from here.

So let her do her job, and that way, we can all continue to receive pleasure from viewing her and listening to her well-thought-out commentary. I don’t agree with her conclusions, but I very much appreciate hearing what the other side is thinking.

Hillary is a politician. She said, ‘you are lying to us’ and in order for us to agree with you, we would have to know you are lying and agree to believe you anyway. She won’t say ‘you are a liar.’ But that’s what she said. She said it in a way that people can say ’she didn’t say he is a liar’.

Let me put it in a more circular way that you might be able to understand. To believe that Hillary did not call Patraeus a liar WOULD REQUIRE THE WILLING SUSPENSION OF DISBELIEF.

Allahpundit on September 21, 2007 at 10:44 PM

I don’t see how you got that out of my comment. No, I don’t see “willing suspension of disbelief” to be equatable as “he’s a liar”, which is what I believe KP was saying.
I’m not coming out on the Dems side on this one as much as Kirsten’s.

She may think she’s been dealt a pretty decent hand after the Flop – and might wonder whether to bet strong on what just. might. happen. on the Turn and the River.

eeyore on September 21, 2007 at 11:50 PM

The only river KP will be going down on the Clinton campaign is $^&*s creek.

And that’ll be the end of moveon, dkos, du, and the rest. And the Democratic Party as well.

Wishful thinking but I don’t think so. I’m more worried about the GOP, check back with me in 2 years. I think you might be whistling a different tune. The Republicans need to keep the focus on their own party. Who really gives a bleep about what the Dems do, the GOP is headed for the slow burn of extinction at the hands of Faux Conservatives and special interest, jeez, when will you guys get it?

Good ahead, laugh, ridicule me, whatever, you’ll see….

Can Fox quit debating the stupid ad and get back to O.J. coverage…wait it was O.J. all day.

I’d rather see Chris Crocker and the blonde from Fox and Friends mud wrestle their way into the hearts of America…

Oh, you might get your violent uprising, KP. We’re a lot closer than you might think. But it will be the nutjob nutroots that will start it when the Democrats fail to end the war OR impeach Bush.

And that’ll be the end of moveon, dkos, du, and the rest. And the Democratic Party as well.

Nothing. He was on and did fine, but frankly the third panelist, Kate Obenshain, was the best of the three. I’d like to see her do more segments, although she may have bigger plans in mind.

Allahpundit on September 22, 2007 at 1:39 AM

Screw that, the real red meat was the anti-war loons hatin’ on Griff Jenkins.

BTW, we haven’t seen “POWERS!” (hand press) lately.