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Mexican textbooks cross the border into US classrooms

posted at 10:25 am on September 20, 2007 by Bryan
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I missed this story on the boss’ site yesterday. It details how US schools are dealing with the influx of Spanish-speaking students from Mexico by using textbooks and other materials supplied by the Mexican government. Probably shipped in on those Mexican trucks we’ve been hearing so much about lately.

Oregon is counting on a new tool to educate Spanish-speaking students across state schools: Mexico’s curriculum.

Already in place at three Oregon high schools, the programs aims to use textbooks, a detailed online Web site, DVDs and CDs provided for free by the Mexican government to teach math, science and even U.S. history to Spanish speakers in Oregon.

Hm. Teaching kids living in the US, US history, from Mexico’s perspective. What can possibly go wrong with that?

I did a double take when I read this next quote, which is placed at the end of the story. Is the gentleman talking about the education program, or some other program with a little bit more ambitious scope?

“People are aware of what we’re doing,” Burk said. “The more they find out about it, the more interested they are. But we don’t want this program to explode. It does not work by just handing out materials to schools. It needs to increase slowly in order to work.


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Creeping La Raza and Sharia, two fronts in the battle of cultures.

bbz123 on September 20, 2007 at 10:27 AM

I wonder if the video on how to avoid being caught by ICE is included in the curriculum.

If my school adopts a curriculum such as this, I’m going back to homeschooling.

aclark on September 20, 2007 at 10:31 AM

All I can say is, “Wow.” And people are OK with this???

But you know, that is so nice of Mexico to send up their books to help us out. /sarc

StephC on September 20, 2007 at 10:33 AM

Mexico can’t stem their corruption or improve the lives of their citizens, but they can ship school supplies here for ours? Awesome. I so hope I can afford to send my kids to private schools.

BadgerHawk on September 20, 2007 at 10:42 AM

They’re probably more challenging then ours.

Irenaeus on September 20, 2007 at 10:43 AM

I’ve got to get ready to not send my daughter to public school.

I am so personally opposed to the public school system…them taking my tax dollars to fund this crap (I realize Mexico is sending the materials for “free” (nothing’s ever free)). Vouchers are, I think, the only viable solution. I’m interested in other ideas here, but have none of my own as of yet.

samuelrylander on September 20, 2007 at 10:45 AM

It needs to increase slowly in order to work.“

I don’t get exactly what he means by that. I reread the article and still don’t get it. Badly written, or was his meaning purposly left out?

conservnut on September 20, 2007 at 10:46 AM

Program supporters say safety is a smoke screen for protectionism. In 2006, 23.3% of American trucks flunked U.S. roadside inspections vs. 21.2% of Mexican trucks. “This reeks of protectionism,” says economist Barbara Kotschwar of the Peterson Institute for International Economics. — (from the article)

protectionism:

system of imposing duties on imports: the system of imposing duties on imports into a country in order to protect domestic industries

Indeed it is protectionism !! What’s wrong with that ? Should a nation NOT be protective of it’s domestic industries ? Protectionism is a good thing when you have public officials forever selling out to international interest rather than protecting American interest. We sent them to Capital Hill to protect American interest ! A lot more PROTECTIONISM is in order !

Whatever the opposite of “protectionism” is… it seems to be the only thing we get from Capital Hill these days ! Enough all ready ! It’s time to think about America !

Maxx on September 20, 2007 at 10:46 AM

conservnut on September 20, 2007 at 10:46 AM

Think of the analogy of dropping a frog in boiling water and it jumping out, vs. putting him in cold water and turning it up slowly…

samuelrylander on September 20, 2007 at 10:49 AM

samuelrylander on September 20, 2007 at 10:49 AM

That’s exactly what I am afraid it means.

conservnut on September 20, 2007 at 10:50 AM

A better solution would be to send non assimilating, non English speaking, students to mexico for education. That way they could actually benifit from going to school in a more spanish speaking frendly enviornment. THEIR OWN DAMN COUNTRY!

Masscon on September 20, 2007 at 10:55 AM

Already in place at three Oregon high schools, the programs aims to use textbooks, a detailed online Web site, DVDs and CDs provided for free by the Mexican government to teach math, science and even U.S. history to Spanish speakers in Oregon.

So dose this mean we can start billing Mexico for educating its nationals for free in our public schools systems?

Mojack420 on September 20, 2007 at 11:02 AM

Bring in the frogs.

csdeven on September 20, 2007 at 11:04 AM

I’ve got to get ready to not send my daughter to public school.

I’m interested in other ideas here, but have none of my own as of yet.

samuelrylander on September 20, 2007 at 10:45 AM

Homeschooling is working out great for us. Far cheaper than private school and has been wonderful for my daughter and I to spend more time together.

Laura on September 20, 2007 at 11:14 AM

csdeven on September 20, 2007 at 11:04 AM

RIBIT

conservnut on September 20, 2007 at 11:16 AM

Because clearly the Mexican school system works so well. Their children are prepared for the modern economy. Super-duper.

There has to be a lawsuit in here somewhere. This is America, so I’m certain that somebody can sue someone over this crap.

Thomas the Wraith on September 20, 2007 at 11:22 AM

Homeschooling is working out great for us. Far cheaper than private school and has been wonderful for my daughter and I to spend more time together.

Laura on September 20, 2007 at 11:14 AM

How many kids do you have?

PRCalDude on September 20, 2007 at 11:23 AM

If they really want to have teaching materials in Spanish, why not get them from Puerto Rico? That is US territory. It’s a lot more likely to not contain poisonous material.

jimbo2 on September 20, 2007 at 11:24 AM

Watch this Channel 5 news report from the border and cry. We are already paying for MExican kids to get their schooling here.

http://www.newschannel5.tv/Video/News/979212.wvx

Taxpayer Money Used to Educate Mexican Nationals
Thursday , September 06, 2007 Posted: 11:01 PM

Since we are already paying for them to stroll across the border and go to our tax funded public schools, I guess it’s only fair that we synchronize the textbooks. I’ve extrapolated the costs for the Rio Grande Valley from this report on Roma ($4.5 million for a population of 18k people) and I estimate that the taxpayers are paying over $150 million dollars here alone.

thewhitneys on September 20, 2007 at 11:26 AM

Does anyone know how to get this news clip to MM so that she can feature it? I don’t think anyone in America who lives outside the border realizes that we are paying for this and I think that they would be mad as hell if they did. Mr. and Mrs 6 pack NEED to see this report.

thewhitneys on September 20, 2007 at 11:29 AM

If I recall correctly Oregon is also a state who is making Islamic studies a mandatory week long program in their schools. Looks like CA got overcrowded and they are migrating north.

LakeRuins on September 20, 2007 at 11:55 AM

Homeschooling is working out great for us. Far cheaper than private school and has been wonderful for my daughter and I to spend more time together.

Laura on September 20, 2007 at 11:14 AM

Homeschooling is great. That’s an option for us, but only if I can earn enough to allow my wife to quit her j-o-b. I was homeschooled till the third grade, and came into school way ahead of my class.

I was wondering if people have other ideas besides vouchers for reforming our public schools. Personally, I’m kind of torn. I like living in a society in which most people can read, but I really don’t beleive education should be the purview of the government. Am I alone in this? Is that something it is even reasonable to be passionate about? Should I just let that one go and take care of my own?

samuelrylander on September 20, 2007 at 11:56 AM

If I recall correctly Oregon is also a state who is making Islamic studies a mandatory week long program in their schools. Looks like CA got overcrowded and they are migrating north.

LakeRuins on September 20, 2007 at 11:55 AM

It’s a shame to see such a beautiful place go all to hell.

samuelrylander on September 20, 2007 at 11:59 AM

Correction that is in CA.

ANN ARBOR, MI – A three-week intensive indoctrination into the Islamic faith by a California public school district was allowed to stand by the U. S. Supreme Court last week. A California federal trial court and the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals had earlier ruled that such indoctrination was constitutional.

And it is a 3 week course.

The materials used by Byron Union School District seventh graders stated, “From the beginning, you and your classmates will become Muslims.” Students were instructed to accept as “fact” that Jihad is “a struggle by Muslims against oppression, invasion, and injustice,” and to accept as “truth” that the Koran “is God’s word as revealed to the Prophet Muhammad.” Students were taught the five duties (Pillars of Faith) all Muslims must fulfill and were required to complete a project for each duty, including fasting, in order to pass.

According to Richard Thompson, President and Chief Counsel of the Law Center, “This three-week course was for the most part propaganda that could be used to unwittingly recruit home grown terrorist. Nevertheless, some public schools are allowing this kind of religious instruction under the guise of diversity instruction.”

LakeRuins on September 20, 2007 at 12:01 PM

At least public schools will graduate students that can do the work that nobody else will do. Right now they are hard pressed to even do that.

Period A – Table busing
Period B – Picking lettuce
Period C – Picking Blueberries
Siesta
Period D – Advanced Spanish
Period E – Desert survival
Siesta
Period F – Wall jumping
Period G – Dead reckoning, North

Hening on September 20, 2007 at 12:03 PM

I was wondering if people have other ideas besides vouchers for reforming our public schools.

Yes. Secession.

PRCalDude on September 20, 2007 at 12:08 PM

PRCalDude on September 20, 2007 at 12:08 PM

Secession? From the country, or from the school system by putting your kids in private school or homeschooling? Clarify.

samuelrylander on September 20, 2007 at 12:09 PM

How many kids do you have?

PRCalDude on September 20, 2007 at 11:23 AM

Just the one, unfortunately, but I know families with up to ten kids who homeschool. In that case, a parent needs to teach them full time. (I use Abeka video, so I can run my business from home and just teach her part time, but this would not work well for a younger child.)

other ideas besides vouchers for reforming our public schools.

Get rid of the teachers unions, for starters. If teachers felt pressured to perform like everybody else does in their job, some would work harder and others could be fired. Mind you, I know quite a few dedicated teachers who go way above and beyond, but I’ve also known plenty, when my daughter was in school and I was on the parent board, who were just going through the motions, watching movies in class every chance they got, etc.

Demand more of the students. All these amazing success stories they make movies of start with a teacher who a)doesn’t take any crap from the students and b)tells them they can do it, and demands that they do. And that used to be SOP for teachers when I was a kid, anyway.

Laura on September 20, 2007 at 12:20 PM

Laura on September 20, 2007 at 12:20 PM

I’m all for disolving unions. Those are sham organizations for sure. I don’t know of one positive thing that has resulted for consumers of anything run by any union. The only result I’ve ever seen is shoddier work and higher prices. In the public school system they have produced poorly/un educated children and very high costs. As the costs rise, the quality of the education has dropped. I’m not sure whether to hold myself as a citizen as ultimately responsible for allowing the election and hiring of politicians and administrators who were not actually interested in doing what’s right, or to hold them responsible for betraying the populace and doing what’s wrong. Sorry, I can vent about this stuff all day long.

samuelrylander on September 20, 2007 at 12:32 PM

Homeschooling is working out great for us. Far cheaper than private school and has been wonderful for my daughter and I to spend more time together.

Laura on September 20, 2007 at 11:14 AM

How long was she in public school? My kids, ages 14 and 11, have been in school all of their lives (8th and 6th grade this year.) I pulled them out of school to homeschool them this year. So far, so good. My kids are enjoying it. Just today, my 11yo daughter said she loves being homeschooled and is glad she is not at the middle school because she’s heard so many stories from her brother about the drama, fights, bullies and bomb threats.

Homeschooling is great. That’s an option for us, but only if I can earn enough to allow my wife to quit her j-o-b. I was homeschooled till the third grade, and came into school way ahead of my class.

samuelrylander on September 20, 2007 at 11:56 AM

I still work and am homeschooling. I do work part time from noon until about 6 or so, and my kids are old enough to be home alone for a few hours until my husband comes home from work. I’ve heard of many families who homeschool while working part to full time. It’s not easy, but is worth it.

StephC on September 20, 2007 at 12:33 PM

I’d reform the public schools by forbidding them to use any textbooks, courses or methods more recent than around 1950. Then everyone would at least learn to read and do basic math. They’d be able to spell and write legibly, too. Even the teachers would improve.
For science and history, more recent material would be necessary, but not until the students demonstrate that they can distinguish between fact and opinion.

NellE on September 20, 2007 at 12:46 PM

LakeRuins:

Your tax dollars at work!

Leftists, particularly academics, are so hypocritical, smug and destructive that it’s no surprise they have to drive everyone else out of their “turf” to survive.

Merovign on September 20, 2007 at 12:48 PM

How long was she in public school? My kids, ages 14 and 11, have been in school all of their lives (8th and 6th grade this year.)

Until the 8th grade, which she had to repeat as a homeschooler. Since then, both her grades and standardized test scores are through the roof. I also work, but in a home office – I own a small web dev company. We use abeka video, which is a really good option if you can only teach part time.

What really did it for us wrt public school was the time they sent home a free lunch form as homework. I wrote “no thanks,” signed it, and sent it back and she came home the next day to report that she’d got an F for homework and would continue to get Fs every day until I completed the form. I went OFF on the principal and the teacher for that, had to escalate to the school board, and threaten to call a friend at the Times-Picayune if they didn’t stop insisting they had a right to my income information. Socialist b’stids.

Back to the Mexican schoolbooks – doubtless that will be picked up here in NOLA soon as well, since the massive influx of illegals we’ve had since Katrina all need to be educated at taxpayer expense. Some say that we need to bow to reality – they’re here and need to be dealt with, and it’s better to have the kids in school all day than not. But even if that WERE my opinion, how on earth is encouraging them to not assimilate going to help?! Morons.

Laura on September 20, 2007 at 12:54 PM

Secession? From the country, or from the school system by putting your kids in private school or homeschooling? Clarify.

samuelrylander on September 20, 2007 at 12:09 PM

I meant of the Flemish type.

PRCalDude on September 20, 2007 at 12:57 PM

Next thing we know they’ll be textbooks produced in China.
Why not? Everything else is!!!

jeanie on September 20, 2007 at 1:02 PM

Next thing we know they’ll be textbooks produced in China.
Why not? Everything else is!!!

jeanie on September 20, 2007 at 1:02 PM

Now THAT is scary.

Laura on September 20, 2007 at 1:14 PM

Mexico North?
Immigration debate ignores reality
March 31, 2006
Section: OPED
Page: A23
Byline: By Diana West, THE WASHINGTON TIMES

As one of those American rarities – a Los Angeles native – I looked at recent, mainly Mexican protests against proposed restrictions on illegal immigration with more than just outrage over lost U.S. sovereignty. I was also reflexively examining aerial photos to pinpoint where in L.A. those hundreds of thousands of Mexican-flag-waving demonstrators were marching.

It was downtown Los Angeles, of course, a section of the sprawling city I rarely visited growing up. Then it hit me: As a little kid in the 1960s, my mother had taken me on an outing to Olvera Street, an old section of downtown (”old” for Los Angeles being mid-to-late-19th century) where visitors went to enjoy folkloric Mexican food and crafts as – it sounds unbelievable now – a colorful tourist attraction. And visitors still go there. But then it really hit me: There weren’t that many Mexicans in Los Angeles back then.

Or, to put it another way, citing the online encyclopedia Encarta: “In 1960, non-Hispanic whites made up 82 percent of the population of Los Angeles County.” Forty years later, the 2000 census showed that the white population had dwindled to 31 percent, while Hispanics – 79 percent of whom hail from Mexico – accounted for 44.6 percent of population. This colossal surge has made the Mexican population of Los Angeles second only to that of Mexico City. Little wonder LA voters in 2005 elected Antonio Villaraigosa, the city’s first Hispanic mayor since 1872 when, Encarta notes, L.A. was “a small frontier town of about 6,000 people.”

“Reconquista” plans to “return” the American Southwest to Mexico aside, Mexicans by the millions are a relatively new demographic phenomenon in the USA. So, how did Los Angeles become a Mexican metropolis? Encarta harkens back to the 1965 Immigration Act, which, it explains, officially ended “bias in favor of Northern European immigrants …opening the doors to massive immigration from Latin America and Asia.”

I found this explanation almost refreshing in that this landmark bill is often overlooked in considering American demographic shifts. As Peter Brimelow brilliantly argued in his book “Alien Nation,” the 1965 Act remains central to the immigration debate that American political elites have so assiduously and irresponsibly avoided for decades. Still, while mentioning the 1965 Act, Encarta also not-so-subtly implies that European “bias” was bad, while “opening the doors” to the Third World was good. This adheres to the infantilizing orthodoxy of good (nice) and bad (mean) that has stunted debate on immigration, forcing it into a political fetal position moved by the odd emotional spasm. (Courageous Rep. Tom Tancredo, Colorado Republican, is the leading grownup exception to this rule.)

But now the debate – at least one side of it – has spilled onto the streets, where alien activists, having festooned themselves in Mexican flags, demand amnesty and rights. This outpouring may be the tangible fusion of every liberal orthodoxy, from multiculturalism to “inclusiveness” to “self-esteem”; it’s also in-your-face symbolism of the abysmal failure to assimilate, to Americanize, even on the most superficial level, an ever-growing influx of foreign-born millions.

All of which needs to be openly discussed before the Senate actually votes on immigration reform. This would be a first. In 1965, when Congress passed the immigration act that “opened the door” to “massive” immigration from the Third World, there wasn’t, as Mr. Brimelow has noted, much in the way of a national debate. In the two decades that followed, along with millions of legal immigrants, the U.S. attracted a huge, mainly Hispanic, illegal population – roughly 3 million of whom received amnesty from Ronald Reagan in 1986. Twenty years later, in 2006, we see a fourfold increase in that illegal population, now estimated at 12 million. Rather than break the pattern, President Bush wants to grant de facto amnesty again.

But then what – another fourfold increase over the next 20 years? That would equal 48 million illegal, mainly Hispanic, aliens by 2026. It’s not impossible – particularly if we continue to shroud the issue in the irrational silence of taboo, never asking the most basic questions. Such as: Should America plan to become a Hispanic nation? The question is neither “racist” nor “xenophobic,” but central to any coherent policy. If the answer is yes, we all might as well salute the red, white and green. If not, we better call our senators.

Diana West’s column for The Washington Times appears on Fridays.

PRCalDude on September 20, 2007 at 1:14 PM

How many kids do you have?

PRCalDude on September 20, 2007 at 11:23 AM

four, with one due in a month. Now, my wife is the one who does all the heavy lifting on the homeschool front, so I’m bragging on her. But it’s going very well. We’ve homeschooled straight through: currently a 5th, 3rd and K student.

TexasDan on September 20, 2007 at 1:18 PM

David J. Stoddard, 27 year veteran of the Border Patrol said – “Illegal aliens generally do NOT want U.S. citizenship. Americans are very vain thinking that everybody in the world wants to be a U.S. citizen. Mexicans want to remain citizens of their home country while obtaining the benefits offered by the United States such as employment, medical care, in-state tuition, government subsidized housing and free education for their offspring. Their main attraction is employment and their loyalty usually remains at home. They want benefits earned and subsidized by middle class Americans. What illegal aliens want are benefits of American residence without paying the price.

Mexico is NOT a friend of the United States. Since 1848 Mexicans have resented the United States. During World War I, Mexico allowed German spies to operate freely in Mexico to spy on the U.S.. During World War II, Mexico allowed the Axis powers to spy on the U.S. from Mexico. During the Cold War Mexico allowed spies hostile to the U.S. to operate freely. The attack on the Twin Towers in 2001 was cheered and applauded all across Mexico. Today, Mexican school children are taught that the U.S. stole California, Arizona, new Mexico and Texas. If you don’t believe it, check out some Mexican textbooks written for their schoolchildren.”

MB4 on September 20, 2007 at 1:25 PM

For as sucky as America’s education is compared to the rest of the world, Mexico’s is worse.

I think the only thing Mexico hits the top 10 on is corruption.

BKennedy on September 20, 2007 at 1:33 PM

I’d reform the public schools by forbidding them to use any textbooks, courses or methods more recent than around 1950.

Methods for teaching reading and math are far superior these days. My kids (in public school) were doing venn diagrams in kindergarten and using the word ‘rubric’ when explaining the standards for their writing assignments in first grade.

Sometimes the new stuff is better.

tlynch001 on September 20, 2007 at 1:37 PM

four, with one due in a month. Now, my wife is the one who does all the heavy lifting on the homeschool front, so I’m bragging on her. But it’s going very well. We’ve homeschooled straight through: currently a 5th, 3rd and K student.

TexasDan on September 20, 2007 at 1:18 PM

How well does your wife handle it?

PRCalDude on September 20, 2007 at 1:44 PM

The learning materials from Mexico teach that the American Southwest belongs to Mexico and is called Aztlan.This is part of the Mexican invasion of the USA called reconquista being willfully supported by our own Government.

I urge you to go to this website and read it for yourselves,scroll down to Aztlan:

Under the euphuism ‘Hispanic Homeland’ and ‘Nation of Aztlan,’ activists from numerous organizations including Mexican American Legal Defense and La Raza (The Race) activists are attempting to annex large portions of SW United States to Mexico. “Republica del Norte,” the Republic of the North, which would include the present U.S. states of California, Arizona, New Mexico, Texas, plus southern Colorado, along with several current Mexican states, is “an inevitability” says Charles Truxillo, professor, University of New Mexico. He further states the new “Hispanic Homeland” should be brought into being “by any means necessary.”

“A ‘Hispanic Homeland’ could be written off as the work of extremists were it not for wide-spread support by Mexicans. A June 2002 Zogby poll of Mexicans found that a substantial majority of Mexican citizens believe that southwestern America is rightfully the territory of Mexico and that Mexicans do not need the permission of the U.S. to enter. The poll found that 58 percent of Mexicans agree with the statement, “The territory of the United States’ southwest rightfully belongs to Mexico.” Zogby said 28 percent disagreed, while another 14 percent said they weren’t sure.”

“Aztlan, the mythical birthplace of the Aztecs, is regarded in Chicano folklore as an area that includes California, Arizona, Nevada, New Mexico and parts of Colorado and Texas. Spencer believes the aim is to create a sovereign state, “Republica del Norte,” the Republic of the North, that would combine the American Southwest with the northern Mexican states and eventually merge with Mexico.”

I guess that Oregon is being added to the list as well.

We are being invaded by Mexico and they are being aided and abetted by our own schools and the Government.

Some would call this Treason, including myself.

ScottyDog on September 20, 2007 at 1:52 PM

Some would call this Treason, including myself.

ScottyDog on September 20, 2007 at 1:52 PM

Hence my call for secession.

PRCalDude on September 20, 2007 at 1:53 PM

Some would call this Treason, including myself.

ScottyDog on September 20, 2007 at 1:52 PM

Hence my call for secession.

PRCalDude on September 20, 2007 at 1:53 PM

I could not agree more with you on Illegal Immigration.

ScottyDog on September 20, 2007 at 2:18 PM

BTW the Constitution DOES allow secession. The 10th Amendment says that any power not delegated to the federal goverment by the States, and not prohibited to the States by the Constitution, remained a right of the states or the people. The Constitution is silent on secession. So, as a people , we have a right to usurp the degradation of our federal unity, far fetched and possibly hard to achieve it may be. Or is it?

MNDavenotPC on September 20, 2007 at 2:20 PM

I guess that Oregon is being added to the list as well.

ScottyDog on September 20, 2007 at 1:52 PM

OK, now I am really getting angry.

That is something up with which I will not put!

MB4 on September 20, 2007 at 2:37 PM

I was raised and educated in Oregon and if ever there was a state to emplement this idea …… God Bless em…… it’s Oregon. I left 43 years ago and never returned. But it’s beautiful in the summertime. uh huh

Ernest on September 20, 2007 at 2:43 PM

So the Mexicans are trying to be just like the Saudis, who send textbooks to Islamic schools all around the world.

mram on September 20, 2007 at 4:25 PM

MB4 on September 20, 2007 at 1:25 PM

Good points. They drove us out of our own home..So I know their wrath first hand..now it’s my turn..

Legions on September 20, 2007 at 4:40 PM

[Laura on September 20, 2007 at 1:14 PM]

Most in China jokingly call it Chinglish. I get a huge laugh out every time we go back to visit. Our friends will speak as much Chinglish as they can since I am still quite bad in speaking Chinese (but I do have a Hunan accent) and they all understand each other but I still have a hard time understanding. I blame a lot of my difficulty with it on the tinge of Brit pronunciation because they do pretty good job otherwise.

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As for the Mexican textbooks, as long as we keep up the pressure on deporting illegal aliens and prohibiting legal employment, the books will go away. And so will the opportunity for multiculti-teachers to subvert the principles and customs that make America the most advanced and prosperous nation on earth and with ones that have caused Mexico to continue to be a cesspool of poverty, crime, and corruption.

Once we are in a better situation, I’ll go back to supporting a good increase legal immigration, though it has to be much more balanced across the board, except for Mexico, which I am not sorry to say will have to be a very very small quota.

Dusty on September 20, 2007 at 10:01 PM

PRCalDude on September 20, 2007 at 1:53 PM

The 10th Amendment and States Rights died in 1865 at Appomattox Courthouse.

Claimsratt on September 21, 2007 at 4:37 AM

What really did it for us wrt public school was the time they sent home a free lunch form as homework. I wrote “no thanks,” signed it, and sent it back and she came home the next day to report that she’d got an F for homework and would continue to get Fs every day until I completed the form. I went OFF on the principal and the teacher for that, had to escalate to the school board, and threaten to call a friend at the Times-Picayune if they didn’t stop insisting they had a right to my income information. Socialist b’stids.

Laura on September 20, 2007 at 12:54 PM

Heck no, no one has a right to that kind of information! But help me out (I must be showing my ignorance here): what in the heck is a free lunch form?

RD on September 22, 2007 at 9:52 AM

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