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	<title>Comments on: The DREAM is still alive&#8230;and we need to kill it</title>
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		<title>By: Hot Air &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Kill the DREAM&#8230;again</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hot Air &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Kill the DREAM&#8230;again</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:04:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Durbin&#8217;s DREAM Act has more lives than a slasher flick villain. The illegal alien amnesty in disguise will be up for a cloture vote [...]</description>
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		<title>By: ScottyDog</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/09/19/the-dream-is-still-aliveand-we-need-to-kill-it/comment-page-2/#comment-699784</link>
		<dc:creator>ScottyDog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 17:32:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW

Kudos for &lt;strong&gt;thewhitneys&lt;/strong&gt; for exposing this crap by posting the link about Mexicans crossing the border every day to attend our schools.</description>
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<p>Kudos for <strong>thewhitneys</strong> for exposing this crap by posting the link about Mexicans crossing the border every day to attend our schools.</p>
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		<title>By: ScottyDog</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/09/19/the-dream-is-still-aliveand-we-need-to-kill-it/comment-page-2/#comment-699779</link>
		<dc:creator>ScottyDog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 17:29:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;stenwin77 on September 20, 2007 at 7:53 AM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

All the school officials should be charged with aiding and abetting grand theft from taxpayers. The principal is a lier when he says it is illegal to check their status. Under current law he has the obligation to make sure they are residents in his school district.

They are foreigners not living in the USA and have no right to a free education in America. Every single one of them should be charged with Fraud and criminally prosecuted.

What do you think would happen to you if you stole $7,000 of taxpayer funds.

Does the rule of law matter any more to Americans while our country is being turned into a third world nation invaded by Mexico with impunity?

How is it possible that the Principal, Ricardo Perez even sends the school buses to pick up the children at the US border to take them to school.

Even the Border Patrol is complicit in this fraud on USA taxpayers. Why do they allow minors to cross the border every day knowing they are going to schools in the USA.

In regards to the biased interviews at the end of the piece, both people that are asked if they object are Mexicans themselves. Lulu Gonzalez and &quot;Tomas&quot; who could not even speak English. They both are probably Illegal Aliens. So much for the US taxpayers that get ripped off for millions being spent on Mexican Nationals.

I sent this piece posted by stenwin77 to MM. I am hoping she covers this on HotAir and FoxNews.

This is so outrageous I cannot write what I really think about all this without being banned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>stenwin77 on September 20, 2007 at 7:53 AM</p></blockquote>
<p>All the school officials should be charged with aiding and abetting grand theft from taxpayers. The principal is a lier when he says it is illegal to check their status. Under current law he has the obligation to make sure they are residents in his school district.</p>
<p>They are foreigners not living in the USA and have no right to a free education in America. Every single one of them should be charged with Fraud and criminally prosecuted.</p>
<p>What do you think would happen to you if you stole $7,000 of taxpayer funds.</p>
<p>Does the rule of law matter any more to Americans while our country is being turned into a third world nation invaded by Mexico with impunity?</p>
<p>How is it possible that the Principal, Ricardo Perez even sends the school buses to pick up the children at the US border to take them to school.</p>
<p>Even the Border Patrol is complicit in this fraud on USA taxpayers. Why do they allow minors to cross the border every day knowing they are going to schools in the USA.</p>
<p>In regards to the biased interviews at the end of the piece, both people that are asked if they object are Mexicans themselves. Lulu Gonzalez and &#8220;Tomas&#8221; who could not even speak English. They both are probably Illegal Aliens. So much for the US taxpayers that get ripped off for millions being spent on Mexican Nationals.</p>
<p>I sent this piece posted by stenwin77 to MM. I am hoping she covers this on HotAir and FoxNews.</p>
<p>This is so outrageous I cannot write what I really think about all this without being banned.</p>
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		<title>By: pilamaye</title>
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		<dc:creator>pilamaye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 14:34:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any self-respecting flesh-eating zombie knows there are no brains in Washington.  Based on what is going on here, that is pretty evident.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any self-respecting flesh-eating zombie knows there are no brains in Washington.  Based on what is going on here, that is pretty evident.</p>
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		<title>By: stenwin77</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/09/19/the-dream-is-still-aliveand-we-need-to-kill-it/comment-page-1/#comment-699385</link>
		<dc:creator>stenwin77</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 11:53:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW - anyone who cares about this issue and has not seen this news report really MUST review this link.

http://www.newschannel5.tv/Video/News/979212.wvx

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Sickening... Disgusting....  What has happened to our beautiful blessed nation?

I love the two citizens (?) they interviewed at the end.  I doubt they&#039;re paying many taxes. 

Is there any hope left?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW &#8211; anyone who cares about this issue and has not seen this news report really MUST review this link.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.newschannel5.tv/Video/News/979212.wvx" rel="nofollow">http://www.newschannel5.tv/Video/News/979212.wvx</a></p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>Sickening&#8230; Disgusting&#8230;.  What has happened to our beautiful blessed nation?</p>
<p>I love the two citizens (?) they interviewed at the end.  I doubt they&#8217;re paying many taxes. </p>
<p>Is there any hope left?</p>
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		<title>By: woodcdi</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/09/19/the-dream-is-still-aliveand-we-need-to-kill-it/comment-page-1/#comment-699028</link>
		<dc:creator>woodcdi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 00:59:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Remember, remember, come election in November,
the shamnesty debacle and plot.
I have not a muse why the shamnesty ruse
should ever be forgot.&lt;/em&gt;

Woody</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Remember, remember, come election in November,<br />
the shamnesty debacle and plot.<br />
I have not a muse why the shamnesty ruse<br />
should ever be forgot.</em></p>
<p>Woody</p>
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		<title>By: Entelechy</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/09/19/the-dream-is-still-aliveand-we-need-to-kill-it/comment-page-1/#comment-698906</link>
		<dc:creator>Entelechy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 22:58:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Harpazo, it&#039;s Bryan authoring this thread.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harpazo, it&#8217;s Bryan authoring this thread.</p>
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		<title>By: Harpazo</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/09/19/the-dream-is-still-aliveand-we-need-to-kill-it/comment-page-1/#comment-698826</link>
		<dc:creator>Harpazo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 22:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Finally! I was wondering when you were gonna pay attention to the revived DREAM Act, AP.

Fire up those phone lines, people!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Finally! I was wondering when you were gonna pay attention to the revived DREAM Act, AP.</p>
<p>Fire up those phone lines, people!!</p>
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		<title>By: thewhitneys</title>
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		<dc:creator>thewhitneys</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 20:52:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just called my two &quot;undecided&quot; TX senate critters to give them my 2 cents.  The poor guy on the phone at Cornyn&#039;s office sounded pretty frazzled.  The vast majority of the calls they are getting are very much against this &quot;non-germain&quot; amendment.

BTW - anyone who cares about this issue and has not seen this news report really MUST review this link.

http://www.newschannel5.tv/Video/News/979212.wvx

Taxpayer Money Used to Educate Mexican Nationals
Thursday , September 06, 2007 Posted: 11:01 PM</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just called my two &#8220;undecided&#8221; TX senate critters to give them my 2 cents.  The poor guy on the phone at Cornyn&#8217;s office sounded pretty frazzled.  The vast majority of the calls they are getting are very much against this &#8220;non-germain&#8221; amendment.</p>
<p>BTW &#8211; anyone who cares about this issue and has not seen this news report really MUST review this link.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.newschannel5.tv/Video/News/979212.wvx" rel="nofollow">http://www.newschannel5.tv/Video/News/979212.wvx</a></p>
<p>Taxpayer Money Used to Educate Mexican Nationals<br />
Thursday , September 06, 2007 Posted: 11:01 PM</p>
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		<title>By: VikingGoneWild</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/09/19/the-dream-is-still-aliveand-we-need-to-kill-it/comment-page-1/#comment-698397</link>
		<dc:creator>VikingGoneWild</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 19:03:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I called McCain&#039;s office again &amp; still no decision.  Seriously, what is wrong in the &quot;leadership&quot; in the US?  He&#039;s undecided?!?  I told the staffer the mark of a great leader is someone who can make a decisive decision on something so clear cut.

I commit tax fraud....I share a cell with Bubba and Tiny.
I want to attend an out state school I have to pay full price.

Don&#039;t we have our own enough funding problems for US CITIZENS!?!?!  How about fixing social security for US CITIZENS first!

Keep calling!  No excuses!!!

http://www.numbersusa.com/congressinfo



I guess until a grassroot type who the general population will support we are in for more of the SOS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I called McCain&#8217;s office again &amp; still no decision.  Seriously, what is wrong in the &#8220;leadership&#8221; in the US?  He&#8217;s undecided?!?  I told the staffer the mark of a great leader is someone who can make a decisive decision on something so clear cut.</p>
<p>I commit tax fraud&#8230;.I share a cell with Bubba and Tiny.<br />
I want to attend an out state school I have to pay full price.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t we have our own enough funding problems for US CITIZENS!?!?!  How about fixing social security for US CITIZENS first!</p>
<p>Keep calling!  No excuses!!!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.numbersusa.com/congressinfo" rel="nofollow">http://www.numbersusa.com/congressinfo</a></p>
<p>I guess until a grassroot type who the general population will support we are in for more of the SOS.</p>
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		<title>By: PRCalDude</title>
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		<dc:creator>PRCalDude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 18:55:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;No prob…I never disagreed with you on any point. I just was saying I understood getting over balking at a point that has been lambasted by the Left as ‘racist.’ Getting over that just takes time. And lots of alternate information. And lots of anger &amp; frustration.

Miss_Anthrope on September 19, 2007 at 2:50 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;
They see everything in terms of race.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>No prob…I never disagreed with you on any point. I just was saying I understood getting over balking at a point that has been lambasted by the Left as ‘racist.’ Getting over that just takes time. And lots of alternate information. And lots of anger &amp; frustration.</p>
<p>Miss_Anthrope on September 19, 2007 at 2:50 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>They see everything in terms of race.</p>
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		<title>By: samuelrylander</title>
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		<dc:creator>samuelrylander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 18:54:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gotcha.  I&#039;m not sure that I balk at that point because of the left, though.  I balk because I&#039;m not sure that it&#039;s true.  More info is always good, and never a threat.  There&#039;s already lots of anger and frustration.  The left&#039;s accusations of racism are always shallow and hold no water</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gotcha.  I&#8217;m not sure that I balk at that point because of the left, though.  I balk because I&#8217;m not sure that it&#8217;s true.  More info is always good, and never a threat.  There&#8217;s already lots of anger and frustration.  The left&#8217;s accusations of racism are always shallow and hold no water</p>
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		<title>By: ScottyDog</title>
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		<dc:creator>ScottyDog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 18:52:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PRCalDude on September 19, 2007 at 12:55 PM

I totally agree with you about the corrupt culture of Mexico and the racist nature of that country.

I used to travel to Mexico in the early 1970&#039;s and could not believe how corrupt and racist the average Mexican citizen is compared to our culture. It has become so dangerous in Mexico for a white Americans that I will not go there anymore for fear of being kidnapped and held for ransom.

I used to fly to Baja California in a private plane until I landed on one of my visits in 1979 at Punta Pescadero and the 50 armed Federales attempted to steal my airplane. Luckily, I was able to talk them out of taking the plane by telling them I had Political Connections and name dropping a Baja Generale.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://vdare.com/walker/070117_top_ten.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Brenda Walker&#039;s article&lt;/a&gt; is right on the money and Alan Wall who lives in Mexico agrees with her on the corruption of that country despite their difference on Mexican Politics.

&lt;strong&gt;Anyone that doubts how corrupt Mexico has become needs to view &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwvxK0YY0zI&amp;mode=related&amp;search&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this YouTube Video&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;/strong&gt;(One has to wonder whether the Hacienda belonged to Vincente Fox with 205 million dollars in cash in the dining room alone and what will happen to all that cash with their corrupt Federales.)

I have observed the invasion first hand living in So Cal and  cannot believe that most people do not see what is happening to America with the importation of their culture.The result is politicians like &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.americanpatrol.com/CALIFORNIA/VILLARAIGOSA/mechistaformayorindex.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Antonio Villaraigosa.&lt;/a&gt; 

Like 7 and 8 year little girls being raped becoming all too common here in Los Angeles by Illegals.

&lt;strong&gt;Anyways, I urge all you to call or &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.numbersusa.com/index&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Fax your elected Representatives&lt;/a&gt; before they sneak another Amnesty in under the table.&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PRCalDude on September 19, 2007 at 12:55 PM</p>
<p>I totally agree with you about the corrupt culture of Mexico and the racist nature of that country.</p>
<p>I used to travel to Mexico in the early 1970&#8217;s and could not believe how corrupt and racist the average Mexican citizen is compared to our culture. It has become so dangerous in Mexico for a white Americans that I will not go there anymore for fear of being kidnapped and held for ransom.</p>
<p>I used to fly to Baja California in a private plane until I landed on one of my visits in 1979 at Punta Pescadero and the 50 armed Federales attempted to steal my airplane. Luckily, I was able to talk them out of taking the plane by telling them I had Political Connections and name dropping a Baja Generale.</p>
<p><a href="http://vdare.com/walker/070117_top_ten.htm" rel="nofollow">Brenda Walker&#8217;s article</a> is right on the money and Alan Wall who lives in Mexico agrees with her on the corruption of that country despite their difference on Mexican Politics.</p>
<p><strong>Anyone that doubts how corrupt Mexico has become needs to view <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwvxK0YY0zI&amp;mode=related&amp;search" rel="nofollow">this YouTube Video</a>. </strong>(One has to wonder whether the Hacienda belonged to Vincente Fox with 205 million dollars in cash in the dining room alone and what will happen to all that cash with their corrupt Federales.)</p>
<p>I have observed the invasion first hand living in So Cal and  cannot believe that most people do not see what is happening to America with the importation of their culture.The result is politicians like <a href="http://www.americanpatrol.com/CALIFORNIA/VILLARAIGOSA/mechistaformayorindex.html" rel="nofollow">Antonio Villaraigosa.</a> </p>
<p>Like 7 and 8 year little girls being raped becoming all too common here in Los Angeles by Illegals.</p>
<p><strong>Anyways, I urge all you to call or <a href="http://www.numbersusa.com/index" rel="nofollow">Fax your elected Representatives</a> before they sneak another Amnesty in under the table.</strong></p>
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		<title>By: Miss_Anthrope</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miss_Anthrope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 18:50:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I’m not justifying the Aztlan movement, or saying that their argument has any validity.

samuelrylander on September 19, 2007 at 2:16 PM

No prob...I never disagreed with you on any point.  I just was saying I understood getting over balking at a point that has been lambasted by the Left as &#039;racist.&#039;  Getting over that just takes time.  And lots of alternate information.  And lots of anger &amp; frustration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m not justifying the Aztlan movement, or saying that their argument has any validity.</p>
<p>samuelrylander on September 19, 2007 at 2:16 PM</p>
<p>No prob&#8230;I never disagreed with you on any point.  I just was saying I understood getting over balking at a point that has been lambasted by the Left as &#8216;racist.&#8217;  Getting over that just takes time.  And lots of alternate information.  And lots of anger &amp; frustration.</p>
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		<title>By: samuelrylander</title>
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		<dc:creator>samuelrylander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 18:50:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;children not getting educated and need health care.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That&#039;s absolutely true.  It would not surprise me if 50% of the elementary through high school students in the Rio Grande Valley were illegal aliens.  I know that a large portion of the student body at UT Pan Am has to wait in traffic on the bridge over the Rio Grande every day, but are granted in state tuition rates because they claim a relative&#039;s address in the US as their own.

That&#039;s infuriating</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>children not getting educated and need health care.</p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s absolutely true.  It would not surprise me if 50% of the elementary through high school students in the Rio Grande Valley were illegal aliens.  I know that a large portion of the student body at UT Pan Am has to wait in traffic on the bridge over the Rio Grande every day, but are granted in state tuition rates because they claim a relative&#8217;s address in the US as their own.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s infuriating</p>
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		<title>By: samuelrylander</title>
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		<dc:creator>samuelrylander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 18:42:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Mexico is a bimodal society. There are stable families that produce normal people that function and then there are the 60% that have the illegitimate births that produce the criminals.

PRCalDude on September 19, 2007 at 2:35 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That&#039;s true here too.  Only our poor/illegitimate don&#039;t number 60% of the population.  But illegitemacy leads to more illegitimacy, and liberalism/socialism leads to larger portions of the society being dependant and poor.  The gang culture is largely a product of poverty and corruption, which is largely a result of social &quot;welfare&quot; programs (actually designed to maintain a slave class).  But like I said before, if you want to see what liberalism will do to America, look at Mexico.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Mexico is a bimodal society. There are stable families that produce normal people that function and then there are the 60% that have the illegitimate births that produce the criminals.</p>
<p>PRCalDude on September 19, 2007 at 2:35 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s true here too.  Only our poor/illegitimate don&#8217;t number 60% of the population.  But illegitemacy leads to more illegitimacy, and liberalism/socialism leads to larger portions of the society being dependant and poor.  The gang culture is largely a product of poverty and corruption, which is largely a result of social &#8220;welfare&#8221; programs (actually designed to maintain a slave class).  But like I said before, if you want to see what liberalism will do to America, look at Mexico.</p>
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		<title>By: PRCalDude</title>
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		<dc:creator>PRCalDude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 18:36:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I asked about the ‘yes’ votes and was told those callers are concerned about the children not getting educated and need health care.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
What about our children getting educated and getting health-care?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I asked about the ‘yes’ votes and was told those callers are concerned about the children not getting educated and need health care.</p></blockquote>
<p>What about our children getting educated and getting health-care?</p>
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		<title>By: PRCalDude</title>
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		<dc:creator>PRCalDude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 18:35:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;There is a majority of mexicans who are not wife and animal abusers, but unfortunately they don’t make the headlines and therefore, our perception is that there are very few.

samuelrylander on September 19, 2007 at 2:16 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;
The true number is unknown.  That&#039;s the best we can say right now.  Gang culture amplifies the misogyny inherent in Mexican culture (which was also present in Aztec culture).  

Mexico is a bimodal society.  There are stable families that produce normal people that function and then there are the 60% that have the illegitimate births that produce the criminals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>There is a majority of mexicans who are not wife and animal abusers, but unfortunately they don’t make the headlines and therefore, our perception is that there are very few.</p>
<p>samuelrylander on September 19, 2007 at 2:16 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>The true number is unknown.  That&#8217;s the best we can say right now.  Gang culture amplifies the misogyny inherent in Mexican culture (which was also present in Aztec culture).  </p>
<p>Mexico is a bimodal society.  There are stable families that produce normal people that function and then there are the 60% that have the illegitimate births that produce the criminals.</p>
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		<title>By: cjs1943</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 18:17:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just got done calling my 2 senators; Norm Coleman and Amy Klobucher of MN. Norm is getting many calls to vote no and is getting the message. I talked to Amy&#039;s staff and she is getting calls to vote no and yes. I asked about the &#039;yes&#039; votes and was told those callers are concerned about the children not getting educated and need health care. I just about erupted on the poor staffer but realized she is only a staff person helping out; not the cause of the problem.

But, can you believe that? We have some really deranged non-thinkers in this state and country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just got done calling my 2 senators; Norm Coleman and Amy Klobucher of MN. Norm is getting many calls to vote no and is getting the message. I talked to Amy&#8217;s staff and she is getting calls to vote no and yes. I asked about the &#8216;yes&#8217; votes and was told those callers are concerned about the children not getting educated and need health care. I just about erupted on the poor staffer but realized she is only a staff person helping out; not the cause of the problem.</p>
<p>But, can you believe that? We have some really deranged non-thinkers in this state and country.</p>
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		<title>By: samuelrylander</title>
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		<dc:creator>samuelrylander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 18:16:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Miss_Anthrope on September 19, 2007 at 1:27 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;m not justifying the Aztlan movement, or saying that their argument has any validity.

Occasionally one hears reference to a silent majority here in America, of largely conservative people who just want to live their lives in peace and not mess with other people or politics.  Until things get really bad and they get off their tookus and do something.  Even though I disagree with that approach, I do believe that it exists.  I think the same thing is true to some degree in Mexico, if to a smaller extent.  There is a majority of mexicans who are not wife and animal abusers, but unfortunately they don&#039;t make the headlines and therefore, our perception is that there are very few.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Miss_Anthrope on September 19, 2007 at 1:27 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m not justifying the Aztlan movement, or saying that their argument has any validity.</p>
<p>Occasionally one hears reference to a silent majority here in America, of largely conservative people who just want to live their lives in peace and not mess with other people or politics.  Until things get really bad and they get off their tookus and do something.  Even though I disagree with that approach, I do believe that it exists.  I think the same thing is true to some degree in Mexico, if to a smaller extent.  There is a majority of mexicans who are not wife and animal abusers, but unfortunately they don&#8217;t make the headlines and therefore, our perception is that there are very few.</p>
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		<title>By: PRCalDude</title>
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		<dc:creator>PRCalDude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 18:13:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;What I’m saying is that the Mexican heritage was brutal enough before the advent of catholicism in Mexico that I’m not sure it needed the influence of the Arabs to make it worse.

samuelrylander on September 19, 2007 at 2:09 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;
True.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>What I’m saying is that the Mexican heritage was brutal enough before the advent of catholicism in Mexico that I’m not sure it needed the influence of the Arabs to make it worse.</p>
<p>samuelrylander on September 19, 2007 at 2:09 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>True.</p>
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		<title>By: samuelrylander</title>
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		<dc:creator>samuelrylander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 18:09:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PRCalDude on September 19, 2007 at 12:55 PM

Corruption is rampant.  There is no question.  It is also pervasive.  While in San Luis Potosi, I was visiting with an in-law who was telling me how great it was that if you got pulled over for anything, even if you were really breaking the law, for 50 pesos (roughly $5) the officer would just walk away.

Many of the people aren&#039;t bothered by the corruption, it&#039;s just the way it is there.

Now that is an unsustainable system.  I wouldn&#039;t argue against that.  If people want to see what liberalism/socialism will do to the US, look at mexico.

You might be right about the Arab influence on Latin America.  I know nothing of it.  Still, to my knowledge none of the mexicans I know are animal abusers.

You are right in identifying catholicisms tendency to come alongside whatever the cultural norm is already.  What I&#039;m saying is that the Mexican heritage was &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.apple.com/trailers/touchstone/apocalypto/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;brutal enough &lt;/a&gt;before the advent of catholicism in Mexico that I&#039;m not sure it needed the influence of the Arabs to make it worse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PRCalDude on September 19, 2007 at 12:55 PM</p>
<p>Corruption is rampant.  There is no question.  It is also pervasive.  While in San Luis Potosi, I was visiting with an in-law who was telling me how great it was that if you got pulled over for anything, even if you were really breaking the law, for 50 pesos (roughly $5) the officer would just walk away.</p>
<p>Many of the people aren&#8217;t bothered by the corruption, it&#8217;s just the way it is there.</p>
<p>Now that is an unsustainable system.  I wouldn&#8217;t argue against that.  If people want to see what liberalism/socialism will do to the US, look at mexico.</p>
<p>You might be right about the Arab influence on Latin America.  I know nothing of it.  Still, to my knowledge none of the mexicans I know are animal abusers.</p>
<p>You are right in identifying catholicisms tendency to come alongside whatever the cultural norm is already.  What I&#8217;m saying is that the Mexican heritage was <a href="http://www.apple.com/trailers/touchstone/apocalypto/" rel="nofollow">brutal enough </a>before the advent of catholicism in Mexico that I&#8217;m not sure it needed the influence of the Arabs to make it worse.</p>
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		<title>By: USCitizen</title>
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		<dc:creator>USCitizen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 18:03:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Texas&lt;/strong&gt; Update:

Kay Bailey Hutchison&#039;s position (per Austin Office Staff) is:

&lt;strong&gt;&quot;She believes the Defense Bill should be pushed through and not held up by discussion of this matter!&quot; &lt;/strong&gt; (.

Graackk!!

That number to call is 512-916-5834</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Texas</strong> Update:</p>
<p>Kay Bailey Hutchison&#8217;s position (per Austin Office Staff) is:</p>
<p><strong>&#8220;She believes the Defense Bill should be pushed through and not held up by discussion of this matter!&#8221; </strong> (.</p>
<p>Graackk!!</p>
<p>That number to call is 512-916-5834</p>
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		<title>By: bspoogeferd</title>
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		<dc:creator>bspoogeferd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 17:42:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If this bill passes, I wonder if there would be any way to sue the government or the schools for discrimination against citizens. How is it fair in anyones mind for an illegal alien to only have to pay in-state rates when he doesn&#039;t even belong in the country, while &lt;strong&gt;citizens&lt;/strong&gt; of other states have to pay out-of-state rates?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If this bill passes, I wonder if there would be any way to sue the government or the schools for discrimination against citizens. How is it fair in anyones mind for an illegal alien to only have to pay in-state rates when he doesn&#8217;t even belong in the country, while <strong>citizens</strong> of other states have to pay out-of-state rates?</p>
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		<title>By: Miss_Anthrope</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miss_Anthrope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 17:27:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Washington is determined to do this. They’ll keep reintroducing it until either we don’t notice, or &lt;strong&gt;we’re too worn out to fight it&lt;/strong&gt;.

Farmer_Joe on September 19, 2007 at 10:17 AM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I made that exact point in the post script of my fax to my Senators.  I wanted them to know that we are watching and we will not tire.  I&#039;m sure they expect us to just tire ourselves out...we always do, don&#039;t we?

&lt;blockquote&gt;This is part of the defense appropriations bill? So how can a Senator vote against THIS but vote FOR the defense bill. How do they get away with this crap?

stenwin77 on September 19, 2007 at 11:43 AM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Because an amendment to an appropriations (or any) bill can be voted on separately, as it is added after the drafting of the bill.  It is technically separate, and therefore can be voted as such.

&lt;blockquote&gt;I emailed Senator Allard (R-CO) about the DREAM act.

Anybody have more info on the AgJobs pilot?

craig on September 19, 2007 at 12:35 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;d visit www.numbersusa.org.  They fax Congress for you, and send you information based on your political action preferences.

&lt;blockquote&gt;I know that generally the mexican sense of society is much more left leaning and socialistic, and that there is a large portion of that population that beleives they should retake the Southwestern US as their own by hook or crook.

samuelrylander on September 19, 2007 at 12:12 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I know you&#039;re balking at alot of this, and that makes sense based on how we were raised.  But Mexico &amp; the rest of Latin America has been Socialist for so long that it sometimes is best to (privately) assume one is like their home country until they can seriously prove otherwise.  We simply have no choice anymore.  I&#039;m from Texas, so I know all about this problem...there is a serious hatred of Spain controlling them, but they had no problem controlling Texas.  Hypocrisy is hypocrisy.

They just want this land back, and they can&#039;t have it.  They lost it...and when you add the rest of the Southwest, they lost that &amp; we still paid them anyway!  I say &lt;strong&gt;:P&lt;/strong&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Washington is determined to do this. They’ll keep reintroducing it until either we don’t notice, or <strong>we’re too worn out to fight it</strong>.</p>
<p>Farmer_Joe on September 19, 2007 at 10:17 AM</p></blockquote>
<p>I made that exact point in the post script of my fax to my Senators.  I wanted them to know that we are watching and we will not tire.  I&#8217;m sure they expect us to just tire ourselves out&#8230;we always do, don&#8217;t we?</p>
<blockquote><p>This is part of the defense appropriations bill? So how can a Senator vote against THIS but vote FOR the defense bill. How do they get away with this crap?</p>
<p>stenwin77 on September 19, 2007 at 11:43 AM</p></blockquote>
<p>Because an amendment to an appropriations (or any) bill can be voted on separately, as it is added after the drafting of the bill.  It is technically separate, and therefore can be voted as such.</p>
<blockquote><p>I emailed Senator Allard (R-CO) about the DREAM act.</p>
<p>Anybody have more info on the AgJobs pilot?</p>
<p>craig on September 19, 2007 at 12:35 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;d visit <a href="http://www.numbersusa.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.numbersusa.org</a>.  They fax Congress for you, and send you information based on your political action preferences.</p>
<blockquote><p>I know that generally the mexican sense of society is much more left leaning and socialistic, and that there is a large portion of that population that beleives they should retake the Southwestern US as their own by hook or crook.</p>
<p>samuelrylander on September 19, 2007 at 12:12 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>I know you&#8217;re balking at alot of this, and that makes sense based on how we were raised.  But Mexico &amp; the rest of Latin America has been Socialist for so long that it sometimes is best to (privately) assume one is like their home country until they can seriously prove otherwise.  We simply have no choice anymore.  I&#8217;m from Texas, so I know all about this problem&#8230;there is a serious hatred of Spain controlling them, but they had no problem controlling Texas.  Hypocrisy is hypocrisy.</p>
<p>They just want this land back, and they can&#8217;t have it.  They lost it&#8230;and when you add the rest of the Southwest, they lost that &amp; we still paid them anyway!  I say <strong>:P</strong>.</p>
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