Outrage: Ahmadinejad to visit Ground Zero? Update: Despite NYPD rejection, visit may still be on
posted at 3:21 pm on September 19, 2007 by Allahpundit
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If it happens, if this Holocaust-denying terrorist filthbag is allowed to use the remains of the Trade Center for a photo op, the rage on the right will burn so white hot that even the anti-amnesty activism this summer will pale by comparison. It’s not clear from the Sun’s article whose responsibility it is for approving the visit, although the NYPD and Secret Service would both be involved in the security detail. As I recall, the last time he visited New York his visa only allowed him to travel within a radius of a few blocks between the UN and his hotel. And of course the U.S. could deny him a visa to enter the country at all if it so chose. So in some sense, at least, it’s up to State to okay this.
The Iranian president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, has requested to visit ground zero during his visit to New York next week, police commissioner Raymond Kelly said today.
The Iranian mission to the U.N. made the request to the New York City police department and the Secret Service, who will jointly oversee security during the president’s two-day visit. Mr. Ahmadinejad is scheduled to arrive September 24 to speak to the U.N. General Assembly as the Security Council decides whether to increase sanctions against Iran for its uranium enrichment program.
Mr. Kelly said the NYPD and Secret Service were in discussions with the Iranian mission about the logistics for the possible visit, and whether it will take place at all. He said Mr. Ahmadinejad would not be allowed to descend into the pit for safety reasons related to ongoing construction there.
Not to go all nutrootsy here, but there are one or two influential people who allegedly read this site so let me issue a formal warning to them on behalf of myself and, I suspect, most of our readers: if Bush and Rice let him go down there, especially in the wake of Petraeus and Crocker reporting the threat Iran poses to American soldiers in Iraq, you have no idea how grave the political fallout will be. Consider this an alert from the grassroots early warning system. You ignored the warning we gave you this summer about the amnesty bill. For your sake, don’t ignore this one.
Update: Here’s Bloomberg’s contact information:
PHONE 311 (or 212-NEW-YORK outside NYC)
http://www.nyc.gov/html/mail/html/mayor.html
And here’s State’s:
202-647-4000
TTY:1-800-877-8339
Update: Mitt is the first to pounce.
“Ahmadinejad’s shockingly audacious request should be met with a vehement no. It’s inconceivable that any consideration would be given to the idea of entertaining the leader of a state sponsor of terror at Ground Zero. This would deeply offend the sensibilities of Americans from all corners of our nation. Instead of entertaining Ahmadinejad, we should be indicting him.”
Update: Says the Times, “It was unclear whether the police, the Secret Service or another agency would have final authority on the request. Mr. Kelly said the issue raised by the Iranian Mission had more to do with the logistics of dealing with a large security detail that would be expected to accompany Mr. Ahmadinejad than with his right, like any foreign visitor, to travel freely in the city.” Except that he’s not just “any foreign visitor,” is he? If they can’t restrict his movement then the solution is simple: cancel his visa. Case closed.
Update: Looks like police commissioner Ray Kelly had himself a change of heart. Standby for details.
Update: They’re dancing away from the cliff:
An advance team for the president of Iran, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, asked earlier this month that he be allowed to lay a wreath at the World Trade Center site during the opening of the United Nations General Assembly next week, but the request was denied, New York City police officials said today.
The request, which was made at a meeting that included the Secret Service and the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, was denied for reasons of security and safety, police officials said, adding that Mr. Ahmadinejad’s aides had asked that he be allowed into the pit, where construction is taking place.
Earlier today, Police Commissioner Raymond W. Kelly had said that Iranian officials had made a “formal request” that Mr. Ahmadinejad be permitted to visit ground zero and that the department, in coordination with the Secret Service, was discussing the matter with officials of the Iranian Mission to the United Nations…
A short while later, around 4:15 p.m., the Police Department’s spokesman, Paul J. Browne, said that Mr. Kelly had misspoke and that police commanders had already decided that a visit to ground zero by Mr. Ahmadinejad was not feasible.
Update: Way to show leadership, George.
President Bush, moving quickly to respond to news that the Iranian president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, has asked to visit ground zero, had a spokesman issue a statement aimed at Mayor Bloomberg that said – in so many words — deal with it.
“This is a matter for the City of New York resolve,” a spokesman for the National Security Council at the White House, Gordon Johndroe, said. He added pointedly: “It seems odd that the president of a country that is a state sponsor of terror would visit ground zero.”
Here’s the inevitable condemnation from Giuliani. If this thing does happen, expect Rudy to milk it even more fervently than he did the “Betray Us” incident. He’ll be down there with an army — almost literally — of protesters.
Update: The university that houses the most notorious Middle Eastern Studies department in the country, which gave Iran’s ambassador to the UN a platform last year to dismiss accusations of Iranian terrorism as Fox News propaganda, which capitulated to fear for Walid Shoebat’s safety by closing his appearance on campus to the public, and which counts among its former presidents Dwight Eisenhower, who famously visited Nazi concentration camps himself so that he could personally bear witness to what happened there, is now set to host the world’s most famous Holocaust denier on Monday. Perfect.
Incidentally, will the public be barred from Ahmadinejad’s speech like they were barred from Shoebat’s? If not, why not?
Update: MM says this travesty may happen yet, as the Secret Service will provide security even if the NYPD doesn’t. Fine. That puts the ball back in the feds’ court, and they’re much more pressurable than NYC is. See how the RNC does next year in fundraising, boys. I’ll run the photo of Ahmadinejad at Ground Zero every time I write about the election. And again, I won’t be the only one.
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If there was ever a reason for peaceful citizens to organize a massive sit-in / traffic blockade, this is it. Keep us updated.
Jimmy the Dhimmi on September 19, 2007 at 3:24 PM
Utter insanity. What could they possibly be thinking?
bbz123 on September 19, 2007 at 3:25 PM
Yes, your alert is on the money. They better not let this happen.
thebrokenchair on September 19, 2007 at 3:25 PM
Maybe he’s being sent there to show what Tehran would look like after Israel’s bombing run.
lorien1973 on September 19, 2007 at 3:25 PM
This is mind-boggling. Simply unbelievable.
Frankly, I wonder if this is the safest thing to be doing. Seems to me this is a pretty stupid move on Dinner Jacket’s part.
nukemhill on September 19, 2007 at 3:25 PM
unspeakable
samuelrylander on September 19, 2007 at 3:26 PM
Who do we call? Not a chance this guy makes it to Ground Zero, even if they approve it. Jimmy the Dhimmi is right. I’ll make it to NYC to block traffic.
nailinmyeye on September 19, 2007 at 3:27 PM
Every firefighter, cop, and person who lost someone in 9/11 needs to go down there and block Ahmadinejad’s motorcade while its still on the street. Then everyone else can show up to block his exit route. Then we lynch the s.o.b.
Mindcrime on September 19, 2007 at 3:28 PM
Mindcrime on September 19, 2007 at 3:28 PM
Are you kidding, that would be like an act of war toward our peace loving arab brothers…
oh…right. Nevermind.
samuelrylander on September 19, 2007 at 3:29 PM
In fact, shouldn’t we help him “descend into the pit” even before his scheduled trip?
CliffHanger on September 19, 2007 at 3:30 PM
He’s Six years, seven days and six hours too late.
Speakup on September 19, 2007 at 3:30 PM
:no words:
trailortrash on September 19, 2007 at 3:30 PM
Word.
samuelrylander on September 19, 2007 at 3:32 PM
He should be arrested for his part in the taking of US hostages.
If he wants to see the pit, he should become a permanent part of the foundation.
Hening on September 19, 2007 at 3:32 PM
Words FAIL me but the headline says it best. This would be an outrage beyond measure! Permission for this visit must absolutely be denied.
dbdiva on September 19, 2007 at 3:32 PM
Iran is not our friend. At least not the Government. Even our friend on the left, Senator Lieberman, recognizes that we are effectively at war with Iran right now. I’m all for disallowing Ahmadinejad’s visit to NY to begin with. If he visits Ground Zero, well…
That understates it beautifully. There will be a lot of unglued Americans.
Ordinary1 on September 19, 2007 at 3:32 PM
Heres a better idea: Let him go take a tour of Club Gitmo instead.
ericire12 on September 19, 2007 at 3:32 PM
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
We cannot allow this to happen. I can just picture him standing at Ground Zero and snickering into the sleeve of his Members Only jacket, rejoicing in how PC (read “stupid”) Americans can be. I cannot imagine the people of NYC would allow this. I know there are lots of looney libs there, but surely there are enough people who understand the threat this man poses, and who will rise up to prevent him from reaching Ground Zero if the gov’t is idiotic enough to approve this request!
lan astaslem on September 19, 2007 at 3:34 PM
I’d settle for seizing his sorry [butt] and taking him to D.C. for a tour of the Holocaust Museum.
Bigfoot on September 19, 2007 at 3:35 PM
A long, long tour.
flipflop on September 19, 2007 at 3:35 PM
Nuclear fall out would pale in comparison.
amerpundit on September 19, 2007 at 3:36 PM
I cannot deny the facts any longer.Our own government has turned against us.
bbz123 on September 19, 2007 at 3:36 PM
Welcome to the dark side, my friend.
samuelrylander on September 19, 2007 at 3:38 PM
Reprehensible. Absolutely no way this should be allowed.
StephC on September 19, 2007 at 3:39 PM
There’s nothing I could say that everyone isn’t already thinking.
- The Cat
MirCat on September 19, 2007 at 3:39 PM
Ahmi just sent the right a kiss. It’s just a question of what kind it is…
This will be sooo goood for Rudy.
Entelechy on September 19, 2007 at 3:40 PM
We should be bombing Tehran while he is visiting the site.
ej_pez on September 19, 2007 at 3:40 PM
That’s atrocious. I would have to agree it’s an absolute affront to have that Holocaust denying, hostage taking, terrorist sponsoring so-n-so anywhere near Ground Zero.
Perhaps he should harken back to recall what happened to Salameh after he showed up at Arafat’s side at the UN and in New York City in the late 70’s. Maybe Americans wouldn’t be the safety concern if you get my drift.
mjk on September 19, 2007 at 3:41 PM
Can’t wait for the Glacier’s take on this - if she’s against it, where’s the lefties’ nuance with everything foreign; if she’s for it…you got it.
In a way this is magnificent and the outcomes are not what each think they will be.
Entelechy on September 19, 2007 at 3:44 PM
Bloomberg being the Dhimmy he is, will most likely welcome this rat bastard with open arms. Rudy would have arrested this vermin and kicked him out with his tail between his legs.
Mooseman on September 19, 2007 at 3:44 PM
Mind boggling indeed..It makes me sick actually.
j0 on September 19, 2007 at 3:45 PM
Allah, I was just about to send this to you. I couldn’t believe what I was reading. They better not let this animal do it. From the article I saw, it looks like it might happen.
Bad Candy on September 19, 2007 at 3:45 PM
This is the biggest pretzel for the Left.
Entelechy on September 19, 2007 at 3:45 PM
I didn’t think I would be able to pick a fight with anyone on this…I figured this would be all one-sided condemnation of our common enemy…but noooooo….
Let the political posturing begin!
samuelrylander on September 19, 2007 at 3:46 PM
He’ll visit Auschwitz next, and then Bergen-Belsen, and then Dachau, and then Treblinka, and finally … Israel - to show his love and support for all of those who weren’t exterminated in the death camps.
OhEssYouCowboys on September 19, 2007 at 3:48 PM
Hmmm…your articles a bit better Allah.
Bad Candy on September 19, 2007 at 3:48 PM
THERE IS NOTHING TO DISCUSS! This lowlife scum of the earth should not even be allowed to set foot on U.S. soil. This sniveling ba$tard’s IEDs are killing our brave troops AS WE SPEAK.
God help him should he get anywhere close to Ground Zero. I am sure I am not alone when I say that I would risk imprisonment to prevent it.
IrishEi on September 19, 2007 at 3:48 PM
Would they have let Timothy McVay see the Oklahoma City Bombing Memorial?
Meric1837 on September 19, 2007 at 3:48 PM
This is insane, I can’t even believe its being considered.
Bad Candy on September 19, 2007 at 3:48 PM
He was probably the one who ordered the 9/11 attack, so let’s have a repeat of 9/11, this time wiping him out rather than the twin towers.
Let him come…
jimbo2 on September 19, 2007 at 3:49 PM
Untangle yourself samuelrylander - you’re uptight over nothing. I’m totally on your side. You watch, this is magnificent in many, many ways. It’ll be vey complicated for the Left. Bill Clinton has been observed pacing and massging his wet hands, without an obvious answer.
I said that about Rudy because as Mayour he would have known what to do. Relax and regards,
Entelechy on September 19, 2007 at 3:50 PM
Oh, his descent began long ago, but it has nothing to do with the Trade Center as a destination.
tree hugging sister on September 19, 2007 at 3:50 PM
He’s referred to the US as an “enemy” and is actively providing weaponry and support to combatants in Iraq.
I say let him in the pit, keep him there, and fill it in.
Hollowpoint on September 19, 2007 at 3:50 PM
Where is RUDY?????????????????
bloggless on September 19, 2007 at 3:51 PM
About these discussions over this supposed Ground Zero visit, the quote says “whether it will happen at all.” Let’s not get ahead of ourselves. I think the chances of this happening are about as good as Ahmadinejad suddenly acknowledging the humanity of Jews.
Enrique on September 19, 2007 at 3:52 PM
His business is at the UN. From his jet to the UN and back. No side shows. Good reason to move the useless UN to Europe.
darwin on September 19, 2007 at 3:53 PM
Oh the thought that just went through my head - “Mr. Ahmadinejad, if you liked New York’s ground zero, man, oh man are you just going to love the new one you will see when you get back to Tehran!!!”
MB4 on September 19, 2007 at 3:54 PM
Republican Suicide.
This guy is killing our loved ones in Iraq and now the SS is going to protect him while he defiles hallowed ground?
Throw the bums out! Everybody out of the pool!
ronsfi on September 19, 2007 at 3:54 PM
Let him come. As soon as he sets foot on American soil, arrest him, and then let the missiles fly to Iran.
jimbo2 on September 19, 2007 at 3:54 PM
I love Enrique. It’s Platonic, of course :)
Ahmi can at any time say “I never asked for that”. However, it will be a magnificent topic for all sides. This couldn’t be a better topic for these times. No sir. Cheers,
Entelechy on September 19, 2007 at 3:55 PM
“The Iranian president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, has requested to visit ground zero during his visit to New York next week,…”
Why? So he can GLOAT?
georgej on September 19, 2007 at 3:56 PM
“People in hell have requested ice water”
and
“The Iranian president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, has requested to visit ground zero during his visit to New York next week,…”
I’m all for sending Ice Water to hell… perhaps we can return to sender it with Mahmoud…
E L Frederick (Sniper One) on September 19, 2007 at 3:57 PM
INDEED!
Weight of Glory on September 19, 2007 at 3:58 PM
Hmmm. Iranian president in the US
Seems like a good time to take out their nuke facilities
We would already have him in custody, and could easily try him in court or put him in prison while we help the Iranian people elect a new government
We wouldnt have spend the next year hunting him like we did with Sadam either.
offroadaz on September 19, 2007 at 3:58 PM
Why? So he can GLOAT?
georgej on September 19, 2007 at 3:56 PM
NO!!! So he will have something to compare the ground zero that he will see when he gets back to Tehran to!!!
MB4 on September 19, 2007 at 3:58 PM
i wonder what rudy will have to say about this. mitt could even have something to say about it (maybe) after his denial of security for that one iranian leader when he visited harvard.
its vintage duh on September 19, 2007 at 4:02 PM
And my family thinks I am crazy for moving to Haiti.
*shakes head in disbelief
On-my-soap-box on September 19, 2007 at 4:04 PM
If Ahmadinejad really wants to visit a Ground Zero, perhaps we can accommodate him by air-mailing a MOAB to the US Embassy in Teheran. Beyond that, this turd’s visa should be limited to the UN and immediately back to JFK, if one is even to be issued at all.
AP is dead right about the reaction on the right. Very few on the Right will tolerate Republicans making Carter-style punk moves. Look no further than this incident next time you ask yourselves why so many social cons are holding their noses and giving Rudy a good, hard look. What’s Farsi for vaffanculo?
Kid from Brooklyn on September 19, 2007 at 4:05 PM
Mayor Bloomberg,
Didn’t Rudy teach you anything ? ? You don’t invite
the enemy to these areas for a photo op. Are you friggin
nuts. Who next ? Hugo Chavez.
Don’t do it. . . .
Texyank on September 19, 2007 at 4:05 PM
I would not put it past the incredibly tone deaf Jorge Wahabi Bush administration. Our Tex-Mex Presidente is not in his right mind and Clueless Condi of the Veil is a major league affirmative action hire asshole.
Hilts on September 19, 2007 at 4:06 PM
this reeks of sharia.
crr6 on September 19, 2007 at 4:06 PM
My only question is what color headscarves will Pelosi and Reid be wearing when they give him the guided tour.
rw on September 19, 2007 at 4:06 PM
next thing you know Bloomberg with be touting the advantages of Sharia Law for New Yorkers.
ricor on September 19, 2007 at 4:08 PM
WTF are these goddamn morons thinking?
We may as well also let Ahmawackjob take a piece of the towers home with him as a token of our pathetic dhimmitude.
infidel4life on September 19, 2007 at 4:09 PM
He should only be allowed to visit Allah.
fogw on September 19, 2007 at 4:10 PM
That’s what I was thinking when I first read this. Grab his ass at ground Zero as Israel and/or us begins bombing Iran. Hold him as a war prisoner. That would be legal wouldn’t it? Sure would screw up their command structure.
Guardian on September 19, 2007 at 4:12 PM
It’s not going to happen. Last time he was in NYC for a UN meeting, he wanted to speak at Columbia U., but they (the school) canceled after it became public knowledge, since they “couldn’t guarantee his security.” The best way to prevent this is to make it as widely known as possible. If that were to happen, those providing the security would chicken out.
Big S on September 19, 2007 at 4:12 PM
Cavuto’s got Debra Burlingame and Patricia Reilly on for reax. Home run for FNC.
Kid from Brooklyn on September 19, 2007 at 4:12 PM
It’s too bad a new tower has yet to be built. Instead we may have Ahamadinejad muse how weak America is.
Free Constitution on September 19, 2007 at 4:13 PM
hmm, a very difficult environment for his security detail to operate in, I like it and encourage all veterans, pariots, citizens, voters, militia members, Hells Angels, homeless bums, wackos, hillbillies, aliens (illegal and from outerspace), New Yorkers, to make their job as difficult as possible.
I envision mobs of people lighting firecrackers, leaving office windows open and pointing mop handles down at him, spitting, throwing junk, holding mohammed cartoon signs.
Alden Pyle on September 19, 2007 at 4:15 PM
pariots=patriots
Alden Pyle on September 19, 2007 at 4:16 PM
Well, the religion of peace does prefer rubble.
OhEssYouCowboys on September 19, 2007 at 4:16 PM
Something’s really f-ed up when relatives of the 9/11 dead have to fight City Hall to get back into the pit one last time, yet our leaders just want to roll out the red carpet for Mehdi.
Kid from Brooklyn on September 19, 2007 at 4:16 PM
Who’s idea is this…???…I’m outraged and every American should be…How can we let this happen…???…That little sob shouldn’t even be in the USA…
areseaoh on September 19, 2007 at 4:17 PM
This is ridiculous! It’s like inviting Tojo to visit Pearl Harbor! Of course after he saw that the truthers can have a big rally down there without anyone kicking their butts, he probably figures it is an idiot/terrorist friendly enviroment.
conservnut on September 19, 2007 at 4:17 PM
I suspect the unwashed taxi driver is doing this to get precisely this kind of rise out of us…I doubt he sincerely believes he’ll be granted a visit.
You’ve gotta remember the arab political modus operandi - antagonize, provoke, amass grievance, repeat
Ochlan on September 19, 2007 at 4:18 PM
Romney on FOX now. FINALLY. (Nothing but OJ….)
IrishEi on September 19, 2007 at 4:18 PM
The only thing I had to say would get me banned. Which is too bad. It’s funny, appropriate, and accurate. But bad. I’m ashamed just thinking. Sorta.
How’s this instead - the inverse of AP’s grassroots early warning: any politician who wants an instant and painless 20 point bump in the polls needs only to put a stop to this.
It was your city, Giuliani. You were there. Want to be President? Then show up at Ground Zero and publicly beat the living crap out of ImaDoggoneNutjob.
Better yet, use a taser. Bring a camera crew. And start measuring the oval office drapes when you get done.
Professor Blather on September 19, 2007 at 4:19 PM
Damn straight. If this happens, the only adjective for our response that I can think of is “nuclear.” This man and his government actively seeks to kill our troops. 9/11 was entertainment to him. If they let him in for what Debra Burlingame correctly identified as a propaganda coup for jihad, then I’ll give to anyone, including Democrats, who run against the people who permit it.
Laura on September 19, 2007 at 4:20 PM
Well Mitt, you might have missed the Moveon.org debacle, but I’m glad you were on top of this one.
BKennedy on September 19, 2007 at 4:20 PM
Is there a grassy knoll in NYC?
portlandbob on September 19, 2007 at 4:21 PM
Now that’s a tazering I could get on board with :-)
Ochlan on September 19, 2007 at 4:22 PM
Haven’t checked the exact timing but in the original link of this thread, Fred had “unloaded” alrady. Now, this is all I can find:
Entelechy on September 19, 2007 at 4:23 PM
Wow. That’s good.
samuelrylander on September 19, 2007 at 4:23 PM
The only Ground Zero Ahmedinijad should be at is his own palace when we bomb the hell out of it.
BKennedy on September 19, 2007 at 4:23 PM
… and then politely request a tour of the rubble when we get finished ….
Professor Blather on September 19, 2007 at 4:24 PM
Allah won’t ban you…I promise. you were saying?
samuelrylander on September 19, 2007 at 4:25 PM
Photo op?! Photo op?!! No - you vastly underestimate the OUTRAGE!
What will that scene be like? Will there be Truther freaks be there - yes. Will his picture in front of the “pit” be in pictures ALL OVER THE WORLD, with “9/11 was an inside job” banners behind him - yes.
Best of worst - we FINALLY assemble 500,000 protesters on the street. Worth it, but more propaganda for the freak.
Will Bloomberg (a Jew) shake his hand - on camera? Or will the freak refuse? How’s Bloomberg gonna feel then.
I hold out hope (for now) that the Police and Secret Service have to go through the motions upon a request. They can dump the idea with some security excuse.
If there are not 500,000 protesters in the street for this, with all of the Jews in New York, and conservatives throughout the US with cars - then this phase of the war is lost. We may as well abandon Iraq, and face the fact that ALL OUT WAR is inevitable.
Agrippa2k on September 19, 2007 at 4:25 PM
He already has. There’s a madrassa in Brooklyn that has his blessings. And he has no problem with the Muslims moving their annual parade from the last Saturday in September (for 20 years) to the second Saturday. How convenient that the 10th anniversary of 9/11—9/11/11—just happens to fall on the second Saturday that year.
Bloomberg will think Ahmedinejad’s visit to Ground Zero is just peachy. *spit*
IrishEi on September 19, 2007 at 4:25 PM
Romney’s gonna make a solid VP.
JayHaw Phrenzie on September 19, 2007 at 4:26 PM
All depends on what our treaty with the UN is. He is in the city to address the UN.
bnelson44 on September 19, 2007 at 4:27 PM
Anyone on the right with a tenuous grasp on sanity would be catapulted into the twilight zone if this Islamic POS were to be granted access to that place.
There would be no way to manage the whitehot intensity of the outrage — perfect, Allah — and no where to hide from the fallout. It would be political armageddon.
Jaibones on September 19, 2007 at 4:28 PM
Rudy’s in Britain now.
Entelechy on September 19, 2007 at 4:29 PM
UPDATE - AINT GONNA HAPPEN.
Source: Hannity Radio Show / ABC
Agrippa2k on September 19, 2007 at 4:29 PM
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