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Video: New footage of the tasing of the moonbat

posted at 3:12 pm on September 18, 2007 by Allahpundit
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Finally, we get a window onto what happened before the other video picked up. Watch the short woman cop gently put her hand on his back at 6:30 as if to say “you’ve had your chance to ask questions” — and then quickly back away when he turns around and puts his arm up. He makes another sweeping “shooing” gesture in the cops’ direction with his arm a few seconds later. As one of HuffPo’s bloggers put it, “Meyer is being kind of alarming and weirdly noisy”; his agitation’s even clearer after you watch this, which may explain why they were so quick to grab him in the video we saw last night.

The last 3:15 shows what happened outside in the hall and downstairs in the lobby afterwards, as Meyer begs for help from passersby before the campus police can “give him to the government” or, ahem, kill him. He looks serious, in which case there may be something genuinely wrong with him, although I suppose he could be nothing more than an unusually insufferable nutroots-brand drama queen. You make the call.

Exit question per Jim Treacher: At what time today does the first “Leave Andrew Meyer Alone!” parody hit YouTube? Click the image to watch.

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Update: Patrick Ishmael of News Buckit says he’s seen this movie before.


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an unusually insufferable nutroots-brand drama queen

Aren’t they all?

KelliD on September 18, 2007 at 3:15 PM

I’m surprised the government just didn’t use the implant in his head to eliminate him.

lorien1973 on September 18, 2007 at 3:15 PM

And he’s a journalism major, there’s your next Olbermann

Capitalist Infidel on September 18, 2007 at 3:19 PM

I’m surprised the government just didn’t use the implant in his head to eliminate him.

lorien1973 on September 18, 2007 at 3:15 PM

He is still useful, but he does need some reprogramming.

Rick on September 18, 2007 at 3:22 PM

As one of HuffPo’s bloggers put it, “Meyer is being kind of alarming and weirdly noisy”;

What!? How can a blogger at the HuffPO possibly write that statement. What that guy said in that video, leading up to his tazering (is that a word?), is simply the verbalization of what those on the HuffPO’s website write every second of every day. In fact, I thought he was very mild compared to some of the more institutionalized moonbats. The guy is nuts, and what he said about the votes are bogus, but at an open mic event, where a lib like Kerry is speaking, and in a university setting, did anyone really think that some mic hogging wouldn’t go on? The irony is that this guy who was arrested is Kerry’s constituency, and was actually making an argument for Kerry’s presidency being stolen. You created these people, Libs., deal with it.

Weight of Glory on September 18, 2007 at 3:23 PM

Returned for Re-Grooving.

mojo on September 18, 2007 at 3:24 PM

They’re going to try and kill me!”

This bit of bad grammar has always annoyed me. It is not try and, it is try to.

They’re going to try to kill me.

But since when do journalism majors care about grammar? It’s the story that matters.

jihadwatcher on September 18, 2007 at 3:25 PM

Looks to me like he’s in clear violation of UF’s Student Conduct Code.

Under “Violations,” Subsection 2(s)

(s) FAILURE TO COMPLY WITH DIRECTIVE.
Failure to comply with a directive of law enforcement or a University official.

Once he swiped his hand at the police, they were within their rights to remove him from the event.

Slublog on September 18, 2007 at 3:25 PM

He did get lose his sports gig just like Oberman.

Kahuna on September 18, 2007 at 3:25 PM

This is no more than a media whore setup. The kid is a punk and needs some good old fashioned Parris Island reprogramming.

Wade on September 18, 2007 at 3:29 PM

“There are people who know I’m here.”

That guy’s a sharp one.

pedestrian on September 18, 2007 at 3:30 PM

Exit question per Jim Treacher: At what time today does the first “Leave Andrew Meyer Alone!” parody hit YouTube? Click the image to watch.

Exit Answer: What better way to reveal yourself to us for the first time Allah?

RightWinged on September 18, 2007 at 3:32 PM

This is what happens when you don’t wear your tin foil hat.

Maxx on September 18, 2007 at 3:33 PM

At last, the name of the book:

Armed Madhouse by Greg Palast.

In his most provocative and caustically funny book yet, Greg Palast, author of the national bestseller The Best Democracy Money Can Buy, once again gives us the straight scoop on the stories that Big Media won’t report. Digging up reams of documents marked “secret” and “confidential,” Palast provides the latest lowdown on Bush’s secret plans to seize Iraq’s oil, the fix planned for the 2008 election, who drowned New Orleans, and the horror and the humor of the War on Terror. With diligent detective work, moral outrage, and a keen sense of the absurd, Palast takes on the “armed and dangerous clowns that rule us” as only he can.

saint kansas on September 18, 2007 at 3:33 PM

This is no more than a media whore setup.

I think you may be right. After all, the person doing the videoing was most likely his accomplice. He intended to get arrested. Notice when he was wrestling with the cops at the beginning, the first thing out of his mouth is “Help, Help!”

Then at the end, he is saying he is going to be killed.

He is putting on a show for his faithful cameraman that never left his side.

jihadwatcher on September 18, 2007 at 3:34 PM

Slublog on September 18, 2007 at 3:25 PM

I’m going to play a little devil’s advocate: can the officer’s placement of a hand on the back be considered a directive? Again, devil’s advocate here, I would have asked my question concisely, and then allowed for the answer. What I find amazing is that I have heard worse, and have seen more soft filibustering done by Helen Thomas in the Press briefings, or by David Gregory. Hmmm. that’s an interesting thought: Helen Thomas going after Bush in a press conference, capitol police placing a hand on her back as if to say, “you’re done”, she swipes her hand, and then she is “handled”.

Weight of Glory on September 18, 2007 at 3:34 PM

his agitation’s even clearer after you watch this, which may explain why they were so quick to grab him in the video we saw last night. — Allahpundit

Well NO …. turns out they were NOT so quick to grab him after all.

Maxx on September 18, 2007 at 3:36 PM

I’m still not sure why they decided to escort him off at that point. Granted, he had created a disturbance and was monopolizing some time, and if he had continued to interrupt and disturb as Kerry tried to answer then obviously that’s cause for removing him, but had asked his questions and Kerry was about to answer.

That said, regardless of why the cops made that judgment call, once it was made he has no right to resist arrest and he behaves absurdly from then on.

tneloms on September 18, 2007 at 3:39 PM

Additional justification to bring back the Draft.

Wuptdo on September 18, 2007 at 3:39 PM

Anyway, this kid is on some drugs or something… It was funny when it was “don’t taze me bro!” but it got weird with “they’re giving me the government!” and “They’re going to kill me!”

Yes kid, the brother from the Green Mile and those little female cops are clearly Bush Illuminati operatives. You must have been disappointed when you were released, huh? POS.

Yesterday, without this section of video, I was 50/50 and leaning in the kid’s direction (on the initial restraint… though once he starting going wild and getting out of the cops’ grip, he should have been cuffed and removed for everyones’ safety). With this extra vid, which kind of confirms the account sent in to Malkin, this kid was Looney Toons and should have actually been gone much earlier. He evidently cut in line, the cops should have asked him to wait his turn, then tossed him when he didn’t… not allowed him to ramble on, get out his skull and bones thing, and then accuse the local Barney’s of being part of the conspiracy.

He’s clearly out of his mind (on drugs or otherwise) if he thinks they’d kill him while Alex Jones, Dylan Avery, and every other Truther remains alive? All will be better once you call mommy and daddy for another check so you can buy some weed and chill out, kid… They’ll pay your fine and you’ll forget all about this.

RightWinged on September 18, 2007 at 3:39 PM

He was a real tough guy when he was asking the questions, yet he quickly turned into a frightened child while being removed.

sunny on September 18, 2007 at 3:41 PM

Wonder if Kerry was capable of having this nimrod do this performance to make him look good. Nah, couldn’t have happened,,,,,, I need a nap I think,,,, yeah that’s it.

MNDavenotPC on September 18, 2007 at 3:41 PM

Weight, you’re right, they would be equally justified in removing Helen Thomas from the press room. They don’t because she is a professional journalist who is in that room for a living, but should one of them not shut up, they would just turn off the mic. If she, Helen Thomas in this scenario, continued to disrupt the press conference, they would indeed usher her out of the room.

In this case, there was only one mic, and the punk refused to abdicate. So they had to remove him to make room for the next questioner.

jihadwatcher on September 18, 2007 at 3:41 PM

I don’t care what any of you guys say. This kid should not have been tasered EVER. He was not threatening and only wanted his voice heard. Was he an idiot? Yes. Was he obnoxious? Yes. Does he deserve to be tasered? Hell no.

I hope he sues the hell out of them.

msipes on September 18, 2007 at 3:47 PM

Reminds me of this guy.

Bad Candy on September 18, 2007 at 3:47 PM

i dont know, but everytime i see him get tazed i cheer a little..

gberez on September 18, 2007 at 3:48 PM

msipes on September 18, 2007 at 3:47 PM

I don’t disagree, I still think tasering was a bit much, just haul his psycho leftie ass out, there were enough cops there to do that. That said, I think the police were within their guidelines to zap the little bastard, and I think a lawsuit would be stupid.

Bad Candy on September 18, 2007 at 3:49 PM

“He’s going through a hard time right now! LEAVE HIM ALONE!!! [wails pitiably]

Jim Treacher on September 18, 2007 at 3:50 PM

He’s a HUMAN! A HUMAN!

Slublog on September 18, 2007 at 3:51 PM

I giggle every time I hear him scream from the taser.

matd on September 18, 2007 at 3:52 PM

Absolutely standard. In the full version it becomes clear just how standard it is. Go compare it to the videos I posted in the other thread. By comparison, they were gentle with this kid.

Again, the only interesting thing is how weak their physical coercion skills were. They clearly should have handled him better.

Not only were they not “quick to grab him,” they were astoundingly slow. And patient.

“Police state,” huh? Freakin’ drama queen.

So what’s the punchline? Did the kid manage to survive his stay in the Siberian gulag or what?

I hope he sues the hell out of them.

msipes on September 18, 2007 at 3:47 PM

You’re wrong. He’ll lose. I take it you missed the video I posted with a little woman tased in her own car because she decided not to get out when asked?

She sued. She lost.

He was clearly still struggling on the ground.

It would never even reach a jury. Sadly, the only reason a lawyer would even take the case is because the kid is white, affluent, semi-presentable, and the case has media attention.

Worst part of all is that the university might well settle before a judge gets a chance to toss it out.

Standard police procedure. That’s all that’s seen in this video. There are thousand similar ones waiting on YouTube for comparison.

Professor Blather on September 18, 2007 at 3:54 PM

He’s a HUMAN! A HUMAN!

Slublog on September 18, 2007 at 3:51 PM

Get your paws off me you damn dirty ….

William Amos on September 18, 2007 at 3:54 PM

Why were the campus police allowing those stupid gapers to stand around adding commentary? I love it when civilians tell us how to do our job.

Why are you being arrested? Because you didn’t leave when you were told, you then assaulted a police officer (several really) when she tried to escort you back to your seat, moron.

My exit question, How did he get into that rally, or whatever it was, without I.D.? Even though he’s a complete idiot, John Kerry is a national leader and former presidential candidate — everyone there should’ve been required to present I.D. in order to get in.

srhoades on September 18, 2007 at 3:54 PM

I wonder – if you told 10 American Communists to hold hands with Hillary Clinton, and then stuffed a lightbulb in Commissar Hillary’s big mouth – would tasing Communist
No. 1 send a surge through Communist No’s. 2 through 10, so that Commissar Hillary’s lightbulb would glow?

Points to ponder.

OhEssYouCowboys on September 18, 2007 at 3:55 PM

He was not threatening

Yeah, he seemed really mellow and laid-back.

Jim Treacher on September 18, 2007 at 3:55 PM

This bit of bad grammar has always annoyed me. It is not try and, it is try to.

They’re going to try to kill me.

But since when do journalism majors care about grammar? It’s the story that matters.

jihadwatcher on September 18, 2007 at 3:25 PM

Unless he was saying that they were going to put him on trial and then kill him. Then his grammer would have been correct, no?

krabbas on September 18, 2007 at 3:58 PM

jihadwatcher on September 18, 2007 at 3:41 PM

The only thing I would disagree with you on in this post is this:

she is a professional journalist who is in that room for a living

There is nothing professional in how she conducts herself and what she does cannot possibly be construed as “a living”

Weight of Glory on September 18, 2007 at 3:58 PM

Shades of Rodney King, the longer the videos get, the lower my sympathy reservoir becomes. And it started out low.

He’s jabbering like he’s on PCP toward the end (adrenaline probably) and says he’s afraid to give his name. Meanwhile, the cop says calmly, “That’s OK, we’ll put you down as John Doe.”

He’ll be all cleaned up and on cable later.

saint kansas on September 18, 2007 at 3:59 PM

He wasn’t a “kid” . He had this planned from the get go. Tasering is fine.

MNDavenotPC on September 18, 2007 at 4:01 PM

I giggle every time I hear him scream from the taser.

matd on September 18, 2007 at 3:52 PM

LOL. Subconsciously, I think that we all wanted to be tasing the lad.

OhEssYouCowboys on September 18, 2007 at 4:01 PM

Good to see John Kerry can still draw a crowd of tens.

Blacklake on September 18, 2007 at 4:02 PM

Man, I knew Ron Paul supporters were crazy but…

The Ugly American on September 18, 2007 at 4:02 PM

LOL. Subconsciously, I think that we all wanted to be tasing the lad.

OhEssYouCowboys on September 18, 2007 at 4:01 PM

Subconsciously?

Professor Blather on September 18, 2007 at 4:02 PM

While I wouldn’t be surprised if he planned to get arrested, methinks the taser was a surprise. Bit a little more than he expected with that one, eh?

Bob's Kid on September 18, 2007 at 4:04 PM

Why were the campus police allowing those stupid gapers to stand around adding commentary? I love it when civilians tell us how to do our job.

srhoades on September 18, 2007 at 3:54 PM

Because we’re a really, really crappy fascist police state.

Karl Rove is working on improving efficiency, though. The gulags open next week.

Professor Blather on September 18, 2007 at 4:04 PM

Christ, this just cemented the fact that he was completely and endlessly resistant to police orders, all justifiable. What a tool.

MadisonConservative on September 18, 2007 at 4:04 PM

Rove, you magnificent bastard. How, do you do it!

JayHaw Phrenzie on September 18, 2007 at 4:05 PM

This bit of bad grammar has always annoyed me. It is not try and, it is try to.

They’re going to try to kill me.

But since when do journalism majors care about grammar? It’s the story that matters.

jihadwatcher on September 18, 2007 at 3:25 PM

I don’t know; maybe they are first going to try, and then actually kill him.

mikeyboss on September 18, 2007 at 4:07 PM

I vote for “unusually insufferable nutroots-brand drama queen.” Next most likely: “Trolling for YouTube hits.”

Gawd, what a friggin’ loser. If I were in the cops’ shoes, I would have enjoyed tasering him.

Splashman on September 18, 2007 at 4:08 PM

Some bored college-looking guys tasering each other for fun.

Repeatedly.

Seriously.

(language and laughter warning)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCUEoHCcoUQ

Professor Blather on September 18, 2007 at 4:09 PM

Unless he was saying that they were going to put him on trial and then kill him. Then his grammer would have been correct, no?

That’s my point. He was simply saying that they were going to kill him. So why say, “they are going to try and kill me”?

What is the and for?

jihadwatcher on September 18, 2007 at 4:10 PM

What is the and for?

jihadwatcher on September 18, 2007 at 4:10 PM

The guy is convinced he’s being snatched by a secret government black ops team and taken to Area 51 for deprogramming … and you’re worried about his grammar?

Professor Blather on September 18, 2007 at 4:12 PM

mikeyboss on September 18, 2007 at 4:07 PM

LOL. Yes, keep trying until they get it right. But as Yoda said, there is do and do not. There is no try.

jihadwatcher on September 18, 2007 at 4:13 PM

MadisonConservative on September 18, 2007 at 4:04 PM

You mean that they actually have to follow the rules? I thought that only applied to conservatives :)

Pam on September 18, 2007 at 4:13 PM

Quite honestly, this kid is either mentally ill and/or he has a powdery looking mirror lying on his room coffee table.

Zetterson on September 18, 2007 at 4:13 PM

No Professor, I am worried that he is a journalism major.

jihadwatcher on September 18, 2007 at 4:14 PM

The guy is convinced he’s being snatched by a secret government black ops team and taken to Area 51 for deprogramming … and you’re worried about his grammar?

Professor Blather on September 18, 2007 at 4:12 PM

See that is the first sign you have been reprogrammed. You speak proper grammer all the time.

Sort of like a 3 “Stepford” program to success

William Amos on September 18, 2007 at 4:14 PM

Professor Blather on September 18, 2007 at 4:09 PM

That was really funny!!! I would have been just as scared and just as willing…back in college.

sunny on September 18, 2007 at 4:17 PM

I threw a tantrum exactly like that in the Woolworths in Laurinburg, N.C. in 1964. Seems I was unhappy at being denied a candy bar I wanted. Dad went nuclear on me IN THE STORE – that was the first and last time I tried it. Sounds like Papa Meyer might have dropped the ball sometime in the past.

mugged on September 18, 2007 at 4:19 PM

The guy was resisting arrest, plain and simple, and the cops were withing their rights to use every means at their disposal. Still, it seems a little late to wait until they had him laying on the ground, and I wonder why it took so many to handle one kid.

Wade and jihadwatcher are right. This smells like a setup.

Jezla on September 18, 2007 at 4:22 PM

tasing of the moonbat

Is that like the dance of the nutcracker ?

William Amos on September 18, 2007 at 4:22 PM

Unless he was saying that they were going to put him on trial and then kill him. Then his grammer would have been correct, no?

krabbas on September 18, 2007 at 3:58 PM

LOL!

inviolet on September 18, 2007 at 4:24 PM

I’m surprised the government just didn’t use the implant in his head to eliminate him.

lorien1973 on September 18, 2007 at 3:15 PM

I can’t stop laughing!

Connie on September 18, 2007 at 4:26 PM

mugged on September 18, 2007 at 4:19 PM

You should have brought a video camera. Then sued your dad. That fascist bastard.

Professor Blather on September 18, 2007 at 4:27 PM

These folks are really starting to bore me…

eanax on September 18, 2007 at 4:28 PM

That was really funny!!! I would have been just as scared and just as willing…back in college.

sunny on September 18, 2007 at 4:17 PM

I loved the dude tasering himself in the chest, bragging about what a tough @$% he is. Then … ow!

Those guys were funny. They should have edited the video down to a minute. Bet it would have been popular.

Just how bored were they?

Professor Blather on September 18, 2007 at 4:29 PM

I’m just hoping he pissed himself a little when they tazed him.

If he was my kid, the checks would stop coming that very moment. Then again, if he was my kid, he’d know that behavior like that would earn him something that would make tazering feel like a massage.

CurtZHP on September 18, 2007 at 4:29 PM

I enjoy listening to him scream.

Mazztek on September 18, 2007 at 4:31 PM

Disturbing thread…

…let’s say for sake of argument, that instead of a 6′ plus white male moonbat, the questions were being asked by a barely 5′ attractive young women who was not white. Let’s think for a minute about the possibility that a young female conservative of Asian ethnicity (perhaps the next Michelle Malkin) was asking questions of the junior senator from Massachusetts.

How would this group of amateur pundits react to the instant physical intervention by law enforcement at the close of her question, regardless of how eloquent she may have been in the heat of the moment?

I counted at least 6 armed police officers dealing with one moonbat who did not seem interested in simply removing the cause of the disturbance from the venue, but placing into custody someone who based on evidence I’ve observed to date, was guilty of nothing other than extremely misguided political views, and a Terry Moran admiration complex.

The kid’s an idiot.

I don’t believe police intervention was necessary at the time it was implemented.

I don’t believe the taser was a necessary tool to restrain the young man.

I don’t believe he was inciting a riot.

He was a naive young kid asking an ideological “icon” of his some moonbat questions.

Last time I knew, that wasn’t a crime in these United States, and a lot of brave young kids are fighting so kids like this idiot can ask questions of their elected leaders.

Law and order fundamentalism? Be careful what you wish for.

CZ52′

CZ52GUY on September 18, 2007 at 4:31 PM

I haven’t read all the comments on all the posts about this, but it looks to me as if this young man is using drugs. Meth or Coke.

He probably got it in his mind to be disruptive before he went to Kerry’s speech, then got drugged-up to do the deed.

jaime on September 18, 2007 at 4:31 PM

I hate to say it but this guy is a playa of gypsodic descent who knows how to play the system for attention and profit. There’s been a few of these attention whores passing through lately. It’s like digital gypsyism. He’s digitally slipping and falling.

pc on September 18, 2007 at 4:32 PM

Oh. Dear Lord.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGKX6qh5XIE&mode=related&search=

Our children are bored. What happened to drugs and alcohol?

Professor Blather on September 18, 2007 at 4:32 PM

Is that like the dance of the nutcracker ?

William Amos on September 18, 2007 at 4:22 PM

Thanks. Now every time I see anything to do with this story I will hum the “Dance of the Sugarplum Fairies.” :)

KelliD on September 18, 2007 at 4:35 PM

“tasing of the moonbat
Is that like the dance of the nutcracker ?

William Amos on September 18, 2007 at 4:22 PM”

Tasing of the Moonbat?
I believe that was Van Morrison.

pc on September 18, 2007 at 4:35 PM

If you can actually be tasered and walk away totally coherent in 15 seconds, then I say bring back the riot baton.

thejackal on September 18, 2007 at 4:36 PM

CZ52GUY on September 18, 2007 at 4:31 PM

Instant? Did you watch the video? At all?

I don’t believe police intervention was necessary at the time it was implemented.

Great. Please let us know exactly at what point the police should have intervened (if ever) and exactly what they should have done after the microphone was turned off.

Anything? Nothing? Specifically please.

Again, I posted a whole bunch of links to comparable videos. One actually has a very small (and maybe even Asian) woman. Go watch and learn.

Professor Blather on September 18, 2007 at 4:38 PM

Professor Blather on September 18, 2007 at 4:32 PM

He never let go of that mic, though, did he?

Connie on September 18, 2007 at 4:39 PM

Like I said in the other thread….

NORMAL people follow the rules. NORMAL people obey the law. NORMAL people don’t create an atmosphere of uncertainty around their actions. NORMAL people never escalate minor issues into physical confrontations with the authorities.

This guy isn’t a freedom fighter. He is a danger to himself and those around him because he cannot behave in civilized society. He engaged in anarchy and lost. Boo freakin hoo!

csdeven on September 18, 2007 at 4:40 PM

I don’t care what any of you guys say. This kid should not have been tasered EVER. He was not threatening and only wanted his voice heard. Was he an idiot? Yes. Was he obnoxious? Yes. Does he deserve to be tasered? Hell no.

I hope he sues the hell out of them.

msipes on September 18, 2007 at 3:47 PM

He was in violation of the law. He was acting irrrationally. He was not obeying law enforcement officers. Police cannot afford to give the benefit of a doubt. Police that do that end up in a body bag eventually. They were acting reasonable when they tasered him. You are asking police officers to put their life at risk to be nice to this kid. That is unreasonable.

Yeah, they should have gotten him under control faster. Perhaps a bit more physical force up front would have given him second thoughts about resisting later. But stating that no way should they have tasered him is ignoring the realities of what a worse case scenario in this situation could have been.

Buford on September 18, 2007 at 4:43 PM

This would have been a non-issue if it weren’t for the taser. The police, it appears to me, were perfectly ok in telling him to get off the mic. He escalated it with his wild arm movements.

But I still don’t understand why, why did he have to be tased. Why can’t a half dozen police officers restrain an out of shape college kid?

BadgerHawk on September 18, 2007 at 4:47 PM

Again, I posted a whole bunch of links to comparable videos. One actually has a very small (and maybe even Asian) woman. Go watch and learn.

Professor Blather on September 18, 2007 at 4:38 PM

The video that I think is most apropos this situation is this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o76WQzVJ434

pedestrian on September 18, 2007 at 4:48 PM

The juxtaposition with the Monty Python video is pure gold!!

thirteen28 on September 18, 2007 at 4:48 PM

God, I do love the smell of fresh-baked moonbat!
sniff

wccawa on September 18, 2007 at 4:48 PM

re:vBlather

I watched the extended video. The police began to drag him away at the moment he finally completed his obnoxious monologue. As part of my vocation I am part of activities such as this one where a high profile speaker is involved in Q&A. We manage to “floor-manage” the dialogue without armed officers or tasers.

The speaker was engaged with the questioner, and at the time of the law enforcement intervention (and droning on as only Poodle can do) expressing interest in communicating a response.

Given my first hand experience with individuals who may be at times a bit high strung in similar experience, I’ll decline your offer of linkage research as “authoritative” to alter my perspective.

There are of course instances when rioters attempt to masquerade as peaceful protesters. This wasn’t one of them. Intellectual honesty and rational perspective I fear are casualties of the times we live in.

I don’t see where the kid committed a crime or deserved a tasing. I hope that conservative kids get better treatment if they ask tough questions of Poodle down the road.

CZ52′

CZ52GUY on September 18, 2007 at 4:49 PM

He was a real tough guy when he was asking the questions, yet he quickly turned into a frightened child while being removed.

sunny on September 18, 2007 at 3:41 PM

Next time he walks to class I see one group feeling sorry for him and another wondering if he pissed himself during his cryfest.

BadgerHawk on September 18, 2007 at 4:49 PM

let’s say for sake of argument, that instead of a 6′ plus white male moonbat, the questions were being asked by a barely 5′ attractive young women who was not white. Let’s think for a minute about the possibility that a young female conservative of Asian ethnicity (perhaps the next Michelle Malkin) was asking questions of the junior senator from Massachusetts.

How would this group of amateur pundits react to the instant physical intervention by law enforcement at the close of her question, regardless of how eloquent she may have been in the heat of the moment?

CZ52GUY on September 18, 2007 at 4:31 PM

Probably the same way we react to this. Oh and Michelle is far to intelligent and civilized to resist arrest under circumstances like these.

doriangrey on September 18, 2007 at 4:50 PM

I Googled her, looked at the pics, read the articles, browsed the sites, saw the awards, and I still have no clue who she is.

The word of the day here is irrelevant.

wccawa on September 18, 2007 at 4:56 PM

…let’s say for sake of argument, that instead of a 6′ plus white male moonbat, the questions were being asked by a barely 5′ attractive young women who was not white. Let’s think for a minute about the possibility that a young female conservative of Asian ethnicity (perhaps the next Michelle Malkin) was asking questions of the junior senator from Massachusetts.

How would this group of amateur pundits react to the instant physical intervention by law enforcement at the close of her question, regardless of how eloquent she may have been in the heat of the moment?

CZ52GUY on September 18, 2007 at 4:31 PM

You failed to include the less-than-eloquent conduct, to wit: the loud, ongoing and intentionally disruptive histrionics of your would-be-hero, which would tend to suppress the rights of scores of those in attendance, by depriving them of their right to peaceably assemble and freely speak to, and question, a member of Congress.

Your attempted analogy fails – because of your own omissions.

OhEssYouCowboys on September 18, 2007 at 5:01 PM

re: doriangrey

I think the women who was stopped was a jerk, but did not represent a credible physical threat to the officer.

A taser isn’t a toy, it’s a tool. I don’t see it as having been necessary on the Florida moonbat or the Izuzu chick either.

I don’t seek to persuade the obnoxious, but perhaps some reading the thread will have the opportunity to consider an alternative perspective.

You can be a conservative and still support professionalism in the carrying out of law enforcement duties.

You can be a conservative and be in opposition to abuses of force by law enforcement officers.

You can be a conservative and treat even your political adversaries with some dignity and apply the golden rule to your analysis of how they are treated.

A taser can be a useful non-lethal force tool to address an individual who may pose a threat to themselves or others. I don’t see it as necessary to remove a kid from a speaking venue (especially with 5-6 armed colleagues) or to use on a woman who has been stopped for speeding and has not presented herself as a physical threat to herself or anyone else.

CZ52′

CZ52GUY on September 18, 2007 at 5:05 PM

I’m just hoping he pissed himself a little when they tazed him.

Oh, if they got him good he did a more than that. I hope he was wearing drawers.

reaganaut on September 18, 2007 at 5:10 PM

This is my favorite “idiot who deserves to be tased” video.

csdeven on September 18, 2007 at 5:11 PM

re: OhEssYouCowboys

The extended video I saw included two minutes of Terry Moran impersonation at the time law enforcement intervention. At time of intervention, the speaker (Poodle) was engaged with the kid.

The “drama queen” activities came after the fact only when several law enforcement individuals began removing him for conduct up until the point of their intervention, was merely naive, misguided, and at worse impolite.

The analogy fails in your mind for your own reasons. In my mind, I don’t want to see conservative kids removed from a venue simply because they may be doing their best Rush impression in the heat of the moment.

And as I have mentioned several times, the moonbat kid is no hero of mine, but kids should have the opportunity to ask an imperfect question without fear of arrest in these United States. Having excessive admiration of Terry Moran’s style shouldn’t get you arrested and tased.

CZ52′

CZ52GUY on September 18, 2007 at 5:14 PM

CZ52GUY on September 18, 2007 at 5:14 PM

No, once again, it failed because of your own omissions. Which, of course, you’ve now attempted to remedy. Let’s just call your subsequent efforts an admission, on your part, regarding your initial failure

OhEssYouCowboys on September 18, 2007 at 5:18 PM

My last…

…the reason I support the right of young people to imperfectly engage our elected leaders is manifest in the video of the YAF kid confronting Murtha. Capital police could have intervened because the kid wouldn’t let Murtha leave on his elevator. They could have come up with an equally bogus charge to inciting a riot…let’s say…unlawful detention. They did not.

The kid asked his questions, aggressively followed up, and rebuked a member of congress to his face who I believe defamed brave young men without even considering the possibility of their evidence. Murtha kept saying…”Isn’t the trial still going on”? Murtha should have thought of that before he convicted them in the media.

We don’t need young people tased for asking tough questions, even if their approach isn’t perfect. We need them to keep asking their questions, and can pray to the Almighty that at some point they’ll see that they need to be accountable to these kids who they represent.

CZ52′

CZ52GUY on September 18, 2007 at 5:22 PM

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