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Iraq Vets Against the War, a liberal veterans group, is actually encouraging people to prank, lie to, manipulate military recruiters in an effort to waste their time. Some of their suggestions include, Is your enemy the state? Befriend a recruiter……

But even if he goes back to his coven, it’ll take a team of moonbats weeks to re-program him.

logis on September 17, 2007 at 3:34 PM

Coven, I like that.

right2bright on September 17, 2007 at 5:52 PM

I prefer “stinking filth hole.”

“How you’d go about proving that someone’s interest in enlisting was insincere absent some sort of statement they gave to a third party is beyond me, though.”

Probably wouldn’t be worth the time and money, but if one were suspected of this activity… could investigators not track their web activity? If they’re home page is IVAW’s site, it might be a tip off?
RightWinged on September 17, 2007 at 5:52 PM

It’s not like recruiters are sealed off from one another. Any moonbat who tried to pull this shtick more than once in the same city, would be REALLY easy to catch.

And I doubt they would move across country everytime they wasted a half hour of a recruters’ time. Even if you value the moonbats’ time at two cents an hour, and assume they rode bycicles, they would still come out behind on the deal.

But even if he goes back to his coven, it’ll take a team of moonbats weeks to re-program him.

logis on September 17, 2007 at 3:34 PM

Coven, I like that.

How you’d go about proving that someone’s interest in enlisting was insincere absent some sort of statement they gave to a third party is beyond me, though.

Probably wouldn’t be worth the time and money, but if one were suspected of this activity… could investigators not track their web activity? If they’re home page is IVAW’s site, it might be a tip off?

I guess they think it lends some sort of credibilty to their cause

Maybe that’s their motive. At least they are actually in line with ICANN [informal] naming conventions (.net is appropriate too) rather than the cluttering of irrelevant .coms we have to wade through…once upon a time you could reasonably infer something from a TLD

It’ll never work. The patchouli and the “like, you know, man” attempts to communicate will give it away every time. But I will laugh hysterically at the first report of this backfiring on them and someone actually enlisting. Morons.

Laura on September 17, 2007 at 1:55 PM

I’d love to see some of them actually enlist, and then get thrown in jail for desertion should they “change their minds”.

If they could survive boot camp, the experience might actually do them some good.

Just on a side note, have you noticed how so many of the left leaning sites have dot org extension instead of the more common dot com? I guess they think it lends some sort of credibilty to their cause.

Nah! It just means that they have to rely on people like George Soros to fund their propoganda.

Just a thought to all out there. There’s an old saying “what goes around comes around.” A suggestion for all as our “friends” at “IVAW” do turn it around on them, there are numbers , names of individuals at each of their chapters, email addresses, etc. listed on their web pages. Be courteous ask for info on joining their organization, promise them incremental sums of money in support of their cause…
nwsseeker on September 17, 2007 at 2:01 PM

Unfortunately, that plan has a little hole in it: the average conservative’s time is worth several times what the average moonbat’s time is worth.

That’s pretty much what their whole scheme is based on. It’s not like some recruiter will drive across town to wine and dine some space cadet who can’t even manage to make it to the recruiting office?

Really, though I don’t see this as a bad thing at all. Moonbats are worthless, sure, but they do have one saving grace: they have absolutely no minds of their own. Once a neo-hippy gets stuck in a room listening to the truth for once in his life, there’s about a fifty-fifty chance he’ll try to sign up. OK, there’s a 99% chance the military won’t accept him (forget all the anti-American affiliations; drug use alone is enough to keep you out these days.) But even if he goes back to his coven, it’ll take a team of moonbats weeks to re-program him.

What is shocking is that vets are advocating this sort of action. Just because the military wasn’t your cup of tea don’t impede the efforts.

LakeRuins on September 17, 2007 at 2:05 PM

Absolutely. It’s disgraceful, and they ought to be ashamed, after taking the same oath that we all took. But I thought they were supposedly just against the Iraq War, not the military in general, so why try to interfere with recruiting? If they were actually the principled patriot veterans that they claim to be, no way would they pull a stunt like screwing with recruiters–or any other soldiers who are just doing their duty, for that matter. They’d work to influence the political process, knowing full well that military personnel don’t get to pick and choose which missions they will and won’t support. It’s not like IVAW can claim that recruiters have been given illegal orders to recruit.

The recruiters for all services are meeting their monthly quotas, even the National Guard. And, as someone said, it won’t take long for the word to get around.

One of my local PBS stations runs the hour-long Pritzker Military Museum lecture series every Sunday night at around midnight. Last night they had a panel, one of whom was the Adjutant General of the Illinois National Guard and he stated that even though the Guard’s role has shifted from being a strategic reserve to an operational one, they easily make their quotas and have implemented the “buddy” recruitment program.

If a Guardsman recruits a friend, he’ll get a thousand dollar bonus. When the recruit returns from basic, the Guardsman will get another thousand. He says the best sellers of the Guard are the young men and women going back to the ‘hood and telling their friends about it.

Is the behavior of the Vets seditious? Yes.

Will anybody care? Probably not enough to prosecute. Which is unfortunate because this should be prosecuted.

How does this tactic jibe with the left’s oft-professed belief in “choice”?

Stating the obvious – they are only interested in their “choice”. These people are really clueless about whom it is that keeps them free to even think of this, or other stupidities.

They will stop at nothing! Here’s the flier and here is the red meat behind it:
Is your enemy the state?
Befriend a recruiter and keep your friends close and your enemies closer!…
This campaign is not about (badgering?) recruiters. It is solely ab…

and on a side note, can we call them Traitors yet?

Romeo13 on September 17, 2007 at 2:12 PM

Yes, why yes we can…

Maybe we should be rooting for this to work.

You know, I’d be all for this if they were being… gasp… sincere. Go ahead, actually befriend a recruiter. Get to know this person. Find out why he joined up. What he sacrificed to serve his country. What he believes.

Eventually you might be close enough that you could feel his scalp and marvel at the lack of horns and/or a mind-control implant built by Halliburton.