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Don’t tase me bro!
RightWinged on September 19, 2007 at 6:02 PM

So I see you have learned some new phrases.
But have learned any debate skills?

Gregor, tell this guy he can get off his knees for you already. Geez.

RightWinged on September 19, 2007 at 1:52 AM

Did it occur to you that some of us take this NAU thing seriously?

I for one am extremely disturbed that a sitting President is doing everything he can to destroy the middle class and is selling off the USA to foreign interests. Think Dubai Ports and the Cintra NAFTA Superhighway Texas toll road that is being built against the wishes of Texas voters.

That is why people like me and others here take the time to respond to your contention that this is all a bunch of crap.

I did not serve my country to have a bunch of elitists give it all away to the globalists that want to replace our constitutional republic with a socialist en-elected ruling body like the EU.

Just today Jerome Corsi released another article on the NAFTA Superhighway project and for the first time the new NAU logo is dispayed on Canadian rail cars.. In addition, Corsi has been refused admission to another behind closed doors meeting with the SPP.EuroMoney is the same outfit that trained the Texas DOT how to sell taxpayer financed roads to a foreign company that is going to turn around and charge tolls for Americans to use those roads.

As a conservative, I cannot understand why you feel all these developments do not raise red flags that our country is being sold out to the Globalists.

I will quite now, because your long rants are full of nothing but lies and mischaracterizing what I said. Your dishonesty is disgusting and I’m really sick of it.

I can’t resist clarifying a few things first though.

Oh wow, breakthrough! You’re going to make a point?
Oh wait…. oops my bad:

First off all you piece of s**t, I never claimed the one link I tossed up there in the past was my argument. In fact I REPEATEDLY SAID I DIDN’T CARE TO ARGUE THIS, BECAUSE YOU IDIOTS ARE INSIGNIFICANT. I simply pointed out that you didn’t even attempt to dismiss the link previously, you just ran and hid.

More of the same bullying, name calling accusations:

ONLY NOW, do you act like you just had a problem with me linking. Before you simply didn’t respond AT ALL. You’re a liar for acting like I tried to throw a link at you and say “case closed”, I said “start here”. YOU are a POS and refused to address any of the issues raised. Now you’re saying you won’t because it’s just “opinion”, while you sit here posting a bunch of opinion.

More crass bullying reserved for adolescent school yards and gnome communities:

First of all, you need to wake the f**k up. You keep lumping me in with someone else apparently, with your insistance that I paste these lengthy excerpts, etc. I never did any of that, I said FOR STARTERS one time and I gave you one link, which you refused to acknowledge in previous threads. I’m not acting as if it’s any sort of huge argument against it, I said “start”, hoping you’d actually address claims. You refused to. Now, I’ve only brought it up in this thread, to bust you for refusing too. I couldn’t care less if you really want to address it or not, just exposing you for your victim “stop ridiculing us” crap.

More of the same…..not worth your time:

Anyway, as I started out saying… you’re worthless to debate this with, because you’re obsessed with diverting from the claim that there is a massively wide superhighway going through the country from Mexico to Canada and the evidence was a NASCO scale map. I chose to start out discussing that one point… You refuse to acknowledge it, and obsess over the Trans Texas corridor, WHICH ALREADY EXISTS. I never said “no new roads will be built”, of course they will… but they’re DEVELOPING an already existing corridor. But that isn’t evidence to support that the NASCO map was showing a scale width of a new highway going from Mexico to Canada.

So why are you here if it’s not worth your time?

This is the part where you divert back to the Trans Texas Corridor, because you can’t simply answer the NASCO map issue.

And your behavior is exactly what I predicted and exactly what I was afraid of… and exactly why it’s pointless to waste my time on you.

Your not interested enough to make it worth your time:

If I had more interest in it, I’d spend the next half hour explaining how you’re either an idiot or a liar for how you mischaracterized what I said… but the problem is, I’ve already sized you up, after you’ve done it repeatedly, and I realize it will just go on like that. We’ve all dealt with your type before, sadly it’s just usually the liberals around here who behave like you.

More bullying accusations, name calling and nonsense rhetoric.

At any rate, go to bed having nightmares about 100 lane highways with tolls you must pay using the Amero. There are certainly attempts at bringing about a New World Order, but you’re focusing on the wrong crowd.
RightWinged on September 18, 2007 at 4:48 AM

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The only hope I saw where you might actually start making a point was this:

I can’t resist clarifying a few things first though.

But alas that was false hope.

The smoking gun you nuts used regarding the Superhighway was the hugely wide highway, shown in scale on a map, extending from Mexico to Canada. Sadly, it was simply an identifier on the map OF EXISTING HIGHWAYS, not showing to scale a new tremendously wide highway system.

Now, you raise some crap about the DEVOLOPING the (already in existence) Trans Texas Corridor. It may include miles and miles of new roads, but doesn’t have crap to do with pretending a map identifying an existing highway from Mexico to Canada as a new enormously wide highway. That is the claim I addressed and pointed out was crap, and instead of either admitting it is (and that the map wasn’t showing showing a “scale” width highway) or attempting to support the conspiracy theory claim, you focused on the further development of the Trans Texas Corridor.

Further, you linked (which you keep telling me isn’t allowed) to 2 fricken’ no name sites. Yeah, I know you tried to disguise the second one with a Free Republic link because you know the source of the article is a partisan columnist who agrees with your thinking.) So, no links are allowed from me, if what is said supports my position. But all sorts of unsupported links that are glorified columns (at best) from you, and that’s okay?

Further, this couldn’t be more vague:
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You realize of course that the “up to 1,200 feet wide” first of all, means nothing because it’s an “up to”… but primarily because it likely means that areas such as the toll areas it mentions could be UP TO that wide. Hell, maybe even areas where the opposite bounds lanes are separated by a large grass/wooded median? But you aren’t going to have highways that are 1,200 feet wide. I can see it now 60 lanes headed each way! Riiiiiiight.

RightWinged on September 18, 2007 at 2:45 AM

More bullying – name calling, calling his debate points insignificant and idiotic, accusations, and no real debating.

BTW, I know links offend you some how (I’m not sure exactly why), but can you link me, or somehow support your claim that “Free movement of people and goods”, are Bush’s words? I’m not challenging it, ******I’m just curious if you could point me to a link (or show me how you magically support it without a link?) And, I shouldn’t have to say this, but NAU conspiracy theory sites won’t do.

RightWinged on September 17, 2007 at 11:59 PM

******Again, Gregor has given you many links to do your own research.

Good, because it proves you’re a liar.

the NAU claim

Gregor on September 17, 2007 at 8:43 PM

Again, there are different strains… There is the “there’s a map showing the superhighway” crap, which is thoroughly debunked, there’s the “Amero” crowd, etc.

At any rate, AS I SAID, I may pick it up when there’s a fresh thread at some point, because you’re really insignificant.. but I may be bored in the future, and want to tangle, ****so I just wish I had more of a clear picture of what you think. Are you a “skull and bones” guy? Are you a “bohemian grove” guy? I don’t know how far you go, because all of you conspiracy theorists overlap in different areas.. some only attach themselves to certain parts, others attach themselves to ALL theories.

Anyway, regarding name calling diminishing arguments.. I don’t really care, I just found it funny that the other douche said flat out that name calling diminishes arguments.. he didn’t say “unless it’s done with good arguments presented first”, he just simply said “name calling”… It was just pretty funny, because you keep calling me a troll, etc.

At any rate, I’m done in this thread… but for next time, I’ll be trying to think of ways to debunk aspects of your theory, which I guess requires making things up in my head, since I’m not allowed to seek information from other sites… Or is it just that you’re allergic to links? Am I allowed to take information from sites, just not link to them? Because if I’m not allowed to find information on other web sites, then I’m left to sit here and just make stuff up.

RightWinged on September 17, 2007 at 11:52 PM

****Gregor gave you a very clear picture of what he wants from you as peer that should be able to debate the issues.

All you respond with is more bullying – name calling, nonsense rhetoric.

Seriously though Gregor, you’re a liar.. I busted you repeatedly running from other threads, something you’ve only tried to spin and ignore here and this thread is now dead.. ***but if you want me to stop “ridiculing” you, give me exactly what your belief is (because there are many different versions). And I’ll even allow you a courtesy you don’t allow me, LINKS! You can link me to your favorite explanation of the conspiracy theory truth that I’m blind to.

RightWinged on September 17, 2007 at 7:53 PM

No debate of the issues.

Hey, assclown… we don’t all operate on the Gregor schedule. Some of us are involved in a deep conspiracy to merge 3 countries and silence folks like yourself, and these are time consuming activities!

RightWinged on September 17, 2007 at 6:03 PM

More bullying – name calling, nonsense rhetoric.

No debate of the issues.

Gregor, you’re such a douche… it’s your new thing to say “argue with me, but no links!”… My point was, you always whined when we mocked you previously, but whenever I’d finally spend 10 seconds to dig up a link, that I said was just to get the ball rolling, you never came back. You didn’t say “don’t give me links”, etc. at the time. You just pussied out, because you couldn’t respond.

Now, I’ve exposed you for being a f**king liar, so you’re trying to pretend that you’ve complained about links all along… when in reality, you NEVER even responded when I provided the link before.

Going back to my original point? Why get down in to this idiocy with you? So that I can spend the time researching each angle enough to debunk you on one, only to have you jump to your next smoking gun… before it’s debunked, and you do it again, and again. It’s like a Truther saying “but what about Building 7!” when all else fails. You’re silly, and insignificant. But you’re also a liar, as I’ve proven a number of times here. Again, wasting my time trying to prove a negative (lol, especially when links are off limits) with you is useless, because you’ll simply jump around “but look at this”, “no Gregor, that’s crap because XYZ”… “but what about this!?”. Sorry, maybe if you mattered like the Truthers, but you’re insignificant.

RightWinged on September 17, 2007 at 6:02 PM

More bullying – name calling, calling his debate points insignificant and idiotic, accusations, and no real debating.

BOTH TIMES, YOU WHINE ABOUT BEING RIDICULED, NEITHER TIME DID YOU RESPOND TO THE POINTS.

I, on the other hand explained (in response to more of your whining) why I will take a bit of time to debunk Truthers, but not you… is because you aren’t part of some growing movement. The Truthers are gaining a lot of prominence (which I predicted by the way), therefore ignoring them would be a mistake. You nuts on the other hand are insignificant, but it’s fun to mock you.

BUT THE POINT STANDS, I’VE ACTUALLY (RELUCTANTLY) SAID “OKAY, I’LL BITE FOR A MINUTE” AND THROWN A LINK AT YOU… AND YOU DIDN’T EVEN HANG AROUND TO DISMISS THE LINK.

Now you’re accusing me of other links that I never put up, because you’re obviously mixing me up with someone else.

So now you’ve been proven to be a repeated liar. Game, set, match.

RightWinged on September 16, 2007 at 11:43 PM

More accusations of Gregor being a liar, calling him a nut job, and saying it’s fun to mock him.

Again, you’ve refused to engage on the issue with me before, after simply whining about being “ridiculed”, so why would I bother trying again. And now you’re just flat out lying. So it’s not name calling if I now call you A LIAR, because this:

Your idea of “engaging” seems to be to link to someone like John Hawkins

Is BS. You’re just lumping all of us “NAU deniers” together, because I’ve never done such a thing. Anyway, get the truth out while you can, before we (those of us in on the conspiracy… I seem to recall you semi-accusing Allah of having financial interest) throw you in a camp for trying to expose us.

RightWinged on September 16, 2007 at 8:22 PM

More accusations, bullying and making up stuff.

No debating, just your typical bullying.

That’s my point, you clown… After “ridiculing” you before, you tossed out your canned victim answer. Then, despite better judgment, I HAVE engaged you and threw a couple links at you. However you never returned to actually argue about them, you always just come back to whine about what a victim you are of ridicule.

As I said to start this, why should I waste my time getting in to a debate about your Truther 2.0 BS, when you never actually stick around when someone does engage you?

RightWinged on September 16, 2007 at 4:47 AM

Same thing.

No debating, just bullying.

Quite the contrary… You’re spitting out your same victim “stop ridiculing me” BS you always do… before you run off and never return to engage, when I’ve thrown a couple of links at you. Why waste my time doing anything but “ridiculing” you, given your history?

Now, as always, I’m off to pick up Karl Rover for our next mock human sacrifice at Bohemian Grove. It’s Bilderberger night! This is when we really plot about raising up Satan and taking over the world with him. You and Alex Jones better just keep your cameras away from us Gregor!

RightWinged on September 15, 2007 at 9:33 PM

More ridiculous bully smearing and nonsense ranting.

ee-dub, don’t expect a reply from Gregor… he likes to come by, drop off his whining Gregor-logues, saying that all we do is “ridicule” him and his ilk, instead of debunking him… yet whenever you do engage him, he never returns. I suppose he’s busy with his video camera, taping Bush and other world leaders performing the “Cremation of Care” at Bohemian Grove, while worshiping the giant owl.

RightWinged on September 15, 2007 at 5:32 PM

This is your first post on this blog…….
…….and you start out with [drum rolls] a bullying smear!

Then we get here, and he LIED by saying I’d never done anything but “ridicule” him, despite the fact that I’d, FOR STARTERS, tossed a link at him that he never responded to. He can complain (stupid as it is) about a link now, but he never did before.. he simply didn’t respond.

Another bullying smear of yours, accusing someone of being a liar, when in fact it’s just not true.

You did in fact ridicule Gregor throughout whenever he insisted you play by the rules – such as providing proof of your claim/disclaim – which of course you couldn’t do, since you simply are not capable of exercising the use of more than a gnome size portion of your brain, that much you have made clear to all who read this thread.

But you know the best part? You’re a dishonest POS, DEFINITELY NOT WORTH MY TIME, because you took that comment out of context.
RightWinged on September 18, 2007 at 10:59 PM

Another bullying smear of yours.

So now, while that might not be technically a “lie”, it’s as dishonest as one.. so you’re basically a liar too.

RightWinged on September 18, 2007 at 10:59 PM

Another one of your bullying attempts by smearing someone as a lier when it is not true.

Again, you’re essentially being a LIAR here.
RightWinged on September 18, 2007 at 10:59 PM

Here is another of your examples – slamming others as a lier – when it is not true.

It’s not important… I’ve REPEATEDLY said it’s not, and that you NAU Truthers are insignificant, which is why I’ve not really spent time arguing with you. The 9/11 Truthers are a growing bunch and a genuine concern.. You people are nobodies

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So then if it’s not important to you then why do continue to invest time in it?

Clarify to me, RW, in two sentences where Gregor is caught lying.

Mcguyver on September 18, 2007 at 7:56 PM

I’ve already explained repeatedly. He’s accused me of pasting Hawkins links as my entire argument. I’ve never pasted a Hawkins link. Further, the one link I have supplied, I specifically said “okay, here’s this for STARTERS”, after Gregor whined about being ridiculed and not having anyone argue the facts. In both previous threads where I pasted it, he didn’t whine about my MO, he simply ran away and never responded. Then we get here, and he LIED by saying I’d never done anything but “ridicule” him, despite the fact that I’d, FOR STARTERS, tossed a link at him that he never responded to. He can complain (stupid as it is) about a link now, but he never did before.. he simply didn’t respond.

If it’s so important, you wouldn’t complain.

Mcguyver on September 18, 2007 at 8:02 PM

It’s not important… I’ve REPEATEDLY said it’s not, and that you NAU Truthers are insignificant, which is why I’ve not really spent time arguing with you. The 9/11 Truthers are a growing bunch and a genuine concern.. You people are nobodies.

But you know the best part? You’re a dishonest POS, DEFINITELY NOT WORTH MY TIME, because you took that comment out of context

You quoted me:

and these are time consuming activities!

RightWinged on September 17, 2007 at 6:03 PM

In reality, I was mocking Gregor with this comment:

Some of us are involved in a deep conspiracy to merge 3 countries and silence folks like yourself, and these are time consuming activities!

RightWinged on September 17, 2007 at 6:03 PM

I was pretending that I’m part of the conspiracy to merge the countries moron, not saying “I won’t debate you because it takes time”… It was in response to Gregor sitting around and bitching that I hadn’t responded to him quick enough. I pointed out that we don’t all operage on his schedule, especially when we’re busy working on our evil conspiracies. This is particularly funny as he’s come close to accusing AllahPundit of having a financial stake in the NAU.

So now, while that might not be technically a “lie”, it’s as dishonest as one.. so you’re basically a liar too.

There are certainly attempts at bringing about a New World Order, but you’re focusing on the wrong crowd.

RightWinged on September 18, 2007 at 4:48 AM

………therefore exposing yourself for acting like the bully that has to agree but doesn’t like the fact that somebody else smarter has won the argument.

Mcguyver on September 18, 2007 at 9:04 PM

Again, you’re essentially being a LIAR here. I’m saying that there are folks attempting to bring about a NWO, but this NAU conspiracy theory BS has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH IT. I’m not admitting that anyone won anything, I’m saying he’s focusing his attention on the wrong crowd.

At any rate, I’m needed at the Bohemian Grove.

(PS – The Bohemian Grove comment is a joke, not some sort of comment that you can spin in to me admitting that there’s an NAU conspiracy and that Gregor just educated me on it.)

Your posts are very thorough and they do have an impact on their kind….never forget that.

At least next time they know that you are a formidable force to be reckoned with.
And you will get a lot of mileage out of that fact”.