Maher to Truthers: Seek help

posted at 2:20 pm on September 15, 2007 by Allahpundit

Via your source for all anti-Truther news. A mild knock, predictably sandwiched between leering at Vanessa Hudgens and a three-minute rant about bare breasts, but we should try to encourage this sort of thing among celebrities so here’s his official HA pat on the back. The Truther segment starts at 4:50 if you’re counting down but his point about rebuilding at Ground Zero that precedes that by 30 seconds is on the money too.

If you can stand it, the clip ends with a mini-lecture about narcissism. From Bill Maher.

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Repeal nurd tax on iPhone Good one.

Wade on September 15, 2007 at 2:26 PM

Maher and WaPo Ombudsmen are same story. Same comments apply.

JiangxiDad on September 15, 2007 at 2:27 PM

thruthers is a mental disorder.
see I knew it .
time for a few more padded cells and jackets with rreal long arms so they can hug the stuffing out of them selfs.

Mojack420 on September 15, 2007 at 2:30 PM

Allahpundit

A repeal on the nerd tax…Hope that doesn’t leave a bruise AP…Oh wait you still haven’t got your iPhone… :p

doriangrey on September 15, 2007 at 2:32 PM

AP didn’t even mention the iPhone segment immediately after the Truther piece…guess he’s given up.

meh, Maher may be right on about the Truthers, but the sting of his comments about the hijackers being “brave” still swells.

JetBoy on September 15, 2007 at 2:32 PM

AP didn’t even mention the iPhone segment immediately after the Truther piece…guess he’s given up.

Prayers might help……nevermind

Wade on September 15, 2007 at 2:40 PM

I don’t get this. You take lying filthy communist America-hating slime like those in the MSM print, NY Times/WaPo and TV, networks, Maher, etc., then you spend years trying to educate people about how to see through their lies, then you reach a point where millions of people don’t even listen to their lies, and NOW, NOW you want us to listen to them again , and clap them on the back, because they just happen to be right once??

I will NEVER listen to Bill Mahr and his kind. Next you’ll be praising Bill Moyers.

Stop worshipping celebrity. It’s a sickness.

JiangxiDad on September 15, 2007 at 2:40 PM

Maher might be right on a couple of things but it’s always on things that are common knowledge anyway. Such things as the sky is blue, water is wet and truthers are nut jobs.

Guardian on September 15, 2007 at 2:45 PM

Next you’ll be praising Bill Moyers.

If he says the sky is blue, then I agree with him.

AtomicAmish on September 15, 2007 at 2:45 PM

Maher would be ok if he never talked about politics and ideology. A few of the jokes after the truther slam (which I thought was pretty good) were quite funny.

If you edit out the lecture at the end of the clip I think this is the most I’ve ever liked Maher.

BadgerHawk on September 15, 2007 at 2:48 PM

My God I found myself agreeing with him on so many of this points! iPhone, truthers, public feeding. Wow

msipes on September 15, 2007 at 2:53 PM

My God I found myself agreeing with him on so many of this points! iPhone, truthers, public feeding. Wow

msipes on September 15, 2007 at 2:53 PM

Down right frightening isn’t it…

doriangrey on September 15, 2007 at 2:55 PM

JiangxiDad, I generally agree with your comments but on the one, above, I don’t. Some of you might be disappointed but I like his dry humor and his delivery. I don’t always agree with all he says but he’s one of a kind and his independence is inspiring.

Most of the time there is a kernel of truth in what he says, even if we don’t agree with him. I’m also puzzled by the inability to rebuild the towers sooner. I would have had them rebuilt in the first two years, exactly the same they used to be. Alas, they never asked me…

Loved the entire video. I used to watch him all the time but now only when on business trips and happen to wake up in the middle of the night, due to time differences…He’s an equal opportunity insulter. Maybe he doesn’t write this stuff but he can deliver it.

Entelechy on September 15, 2007 at 2:58 PM

The whole damn clip was pretty funny, especially the iPhone stuff. Truth is stranger than fiction, and sometimes a lot funnier.

RedWinged Blackbird on September 15, 2007 at 3:03 PM

I had to laugh at the breast feeding part.
I will never forget, when my cousins wife breast fed, without even a blanket or anything to help cover up, in front of my Grandad!
We were dying laughing because she was standing right in front of Grandad talking to him and he was trying to look anywhere but THERE!
That happened over 30 years ago, Grandad is 101 now, but that really brought back memories.
We all thought she was a real hippie lol.

ArmyAunt on September 15, 2007 at 3:04 PM

The lesser of two evils (or weevils, if you’re Rusell Crowe), I suppose: Maher was–and is–a moron for suggesting that the 19 terrorists were freedom fighters or otherwise “brave” as he called them. But at least he isn’t wearing the tinfoil hat. Schmuck, yes. Mentally deranged? Not yet, at least.

And that’s more than I can say for Rosie.

thejackal on September 15, 2007 at 3:05 PM

Insert broken clock adage here.

tikvah on September 15, 2007 at 3:05 PM

I’m also puzzled by the inability to rebuild the towers sooner. I would have had them rebuilt in the first two years, exactly the same they used to be.

Entelechy on September 15, 2007 at 2:58 PM

Well, living here, it’s a lot of local and state mumbo-jumbo that’s still going on. A lot of disappointment with the Freedom Tower design, the size of the memorial, Silverstein, going back to Pataki, the Port Authority, where the PATH trains will go, etc etc…It’s just a whole lot of buracratic BS.

And I agree with you…in rebuilding the towers as they were, but to add what Donald Trump said…make ‘em one story taller.

For the record, I was always hoping that ugly Freedom Tower (topped with all that useless lattice-work) would see the trash bin. But at this point, it is pathetic that all that really stands is the new WTC7.

JetBoy on September 15, 2007 at 3:06 PM

Everyone in a while, his writers come up with a good line.

Kini on September 15, 2007 at 3:07 PM

My God I found myself agreeing with him on so many of this points! iPhone, truthers, public feeding. Wow

msipes on September 15, 2007 at 2:53 PM

Down right frightening isn’t it…

doriangrey on September 15, 2007 at 2:55 PM

The thing about him is that he’s not really a radical, but more of a left wing pragmatist. He may be wrong on a lot of things, but he’s not crazy.

Big S on September 15, 2007 at 3:09 PM

JetBoy, thanks for the update/commentary.

They should have handed the project to Donald Trump. He would have gotten it done, no matter the obstacles.

As usual, bureaucracy is the process which converts creative energy into solid waste. And, that’s nicely said.

Entelechy on September 15, 2007 at 3:13 PM

“Our inability to build anything on the (WTC) site in six years symbolizes our national head up the ass. It took two years to build the Eifful tower. In the 1880′s. By hand. By Frenchman taking timeout of screwing their mistresses.”

Painfully true and suprisingly funny.

Mike Honcho on September 15, 2007 at 3:13 PM

JiangxiDad on September 15, 2007 at 2:40 PM

lol a sickness?? jeez man. if thats how mean you get at something insignificant like a video of bill maher, wat the hell do you do when the mailman forgets your mail? do you shoot his whole family or something?

ernesto on September 15, 2007 at 3:16 PM

If Mahr were usually that funny, I’d watch more often.

He’s no airhead, like so many of their spokesmen. He can be thoughtful, clever and witty. I can understand how he and our Ann Coulter would be good buddies.

petefrt on September 15, 2007 at 3:19 PM

He can almost be human at times.

iPhone nerd tax – HA! AP wanted Nichelle to pay it but she refused.

You just have to love Michelle.

On-my-soap-box on September 15, 2007 at 3:24 PM

doriangrey on September 15, 2007 at 2:55 PM

Yeah, but I’m sure he’ll say something that gets me angry next week.

terryannonline on September 15, 2007 at 3:26 PM

BM gets it this time. I love the line about Paxil.

Mojave Mark on September 15, 2007 at 3:35 PM

Yeah, but I’m sure he’ll say something that gets me angry next week.

terryannonline on September 15, 2007 at 3:26 PM

Heh heh I’d be surprised if it takes that long…

doriangrey on September 15, 2007 at 3:36 PM

Yeah, but I’m sure he’ll say something that gets me angry next week.

terryannonline on September 15, 2007 at 3:26 PM

Maybe sooner than that. Check out this clip from Maher’s show last night. At 3:11 into it is he saying what I think he’s saying?

The Sinner on September 15, 2007 at 3:50 PM

I like the part when Mahr spoke about the iphone nurd tax and the extra money for the imaginary girlfriend. I don’t know why Drew Carey was laughing, Mahr was evidently referring to him. lol

kiakjones on September 15, 2007 at 3:53 PM

F’ing brilliant.

doufree on September 15, 2007 at 3:54 PM

Pretty much offensive, if you ask me. “Even a dog can do it” when referring to having a baby, because breast-feeding is no longer the ubiquitous action it was, and causes discomfort for some. Wow. Funny.

Not.

Although, even a dog can make people laugh, without so much as using a word. Wonder how Maher’d like that comparison?

Think I’ll go all feminist on his ass on my blog.

Meryl Yourish on September 15, 2007 at 4:10 PM

That was funny.

Christoph on September 15, 2007 at 4:18 PM

The Sinner on September 15, 2007 at 3:50 PM

They are basically saying 9/11 was our fault. We had it coming. And we should ask Bin Laden why he hates us so much?

terryannonline on September 15, 2007 at 4:27 PM

Next you’ll be praising Bill Moyers.

Stop worshipping celebrity. It’s a sickness.

JiangxiDad on September 15, 2007 at 2:40 PM

Bing, bing, bing! I believe we have a winner!

Nice, Dad. But it was Maher or Jesus, and … well … you know.

Jaibones on September 15, 2007 at 4:42 PM

Truth[ers] [are] stranger than fiction.

There. FTFY!

nukemhill on September 15, 2007 at 5:07 PM

That was so reasoned and rational, I think Bill Maher knows a lot more about Paxil than he’s letting on.

Rational Thought on September 15, 2007 at 5:08 PM

AP didn’t even mention the iPhone segment immediately after the Truther piece…guess he’s given up.
Prayers might help……nevermind

Wade on September 15, 2007 at 2:40 PM

too funny – and I’m with AP on that issue!

Ann on September 15, 2007 at 5:08 PM

What a punk. Had to throw in “the war”, lest someone might imagine he is growing up.

By now he has realized his comment about terrorist being brave was bull crap. He still nurtures that victim status and panders to his lefty sympathizers (his new audience).

If we can keep him off the talk shows (where he knows he is there because of his terrorist statement, and gets defensive) he may eventually come around.

Agrippa2k on September 15, 2007 at 5:12 PM

By now he has realized his comment about terrorist being brave was bull crap.

Terrorists are brave.

It takes physical courage to sacrifice your life for a cause. It takes courage to fight. To risk certain death and possibly pain and imprisonment.

It is one of the stupidest things in the world to say that that doesn’t take courage.

They are the wolves to your sheepdogs. Whether you agree with me or not, read this article.

The sheepdog and the wolf have many things in common. They are both willing to use violence. They are often eager to. They are both willing to take risk on themselves to accomplish what they want.

It is how similar these two look that causes many sheep not to see a distinction between them.

Yet there is a distinction and it is one of motive: one’s is to protect, the other to hurt, destroy, and dominate.

Yet courage is not the dividing line between the two. Morality is.
They are terrible people — and they transcend their fear over the welfare of their skins to turn themselves into weapons. It’s a long established strategy in Muslim military tradition.

It’s generally not as effective — nor as efficient in killing — as the European military tradition as expanded and developed on by the Americans (who added enormous logistics and industrial production capacity to the mix), but it does have successes.

Underestimating your enemy is no path to victory.

Berating their manhood and attacking their courage as a tactic makes sense. But don’t you believe it.

Christoph on September 15, 2007 at 6:18 PM

Christoph,
Good post. I think for some “bravery” has connotations of honor (or as you say morality), maybe that is why there was such a strong negative reaction to Maher’s 9/11 comment.

It took a level of discipline to plan the 9/11 attack, especially for those of the 19 who know it was a suicide mission. If we pretend that the terrorists lack the ability or the courage to kill again on a large scale then we are leaving ourselves vulnerable. There is a special place in hell for those 19, but they were determined and effectively managed their fear in order to effect their sick desire to kill innocent Americans.

dedalus on September 15, 2007 at 6:30 PM

Well put, dedalus.

Christoph on September 15, 2007 at 6:35 PM

Is it just me or does anyone else think that Maher is not funny. I have never laughed at anything he does.

mark24609 on September 15, 2007 at 6:38 PM

That was funny as hell. But people have different tastes re: humour, so don’t sweat it.

Christoph on September 15, 2007 at 6:50 PM

Christoph, very courageous! Nice analogy too. Thank you,

Entelechy on September 15, 2007 at 7:00 PM

Not bad, billyboy.

“Activism has become narcissism.” You were kinda ‘dennis miller-esque’ there for a few minutes.

But no tax is ever repealed. Nerd or otherwise.

Other than that – you’re still a dipstick.

locomotivebreath1901 on September 15, 2007 at 7:00 PM

Christoph on September 15, 2007 at 6:18 PM

Well done. I’ve come to his defense on that a few times in looking at it in the correct context, which was though it was pretty brave, it doesn’t excuse the monstrosity of the act. Yes, he’s still a leftist, but he can be pretty damn funny too. Though his show was much, much better when he actually had some conservatives on the panel.

SouthernDem on September 15, 2007 at 7:01 PM

Though his show was much, much better when he actually had some conservatives on the panel.

SouthernDem on September 15, 2007 at 7:01 PM

Hear, hear.

Christoph on September 15, 2007 at 7:05 PM

Maher didn’t say anything rational people haven’t known since about 10:00 AM on September 11, 2001.

Awareness is a long, drawn-out process for libs. Like a rock absorbing water.

fogw on September 15, 2007 at 7:17 PM

Maher was the male lead in Cannibal Women in the Avacado Jungle of Death, and therefore has absolute moral authority as far as I’m concerned.

1 chuckle and 1 snicker. The funniest Maher has been in years, but he still has NO political credibility due to the sheer vastness of the number of issues in which his positions are 180 degrees from correct.

Wingo on September 15, 2007 at 8:13 PM

Christoph on September 15, 2007 at 6:18 PM is a good example of CLEAR thinking.

petefrt on September 15, 2007 at 8:56 PM

Maher was the male lead in Cannibal Women in the Avacado Jungle of Death, and therefore has absolute moral authority as far as I’m concerned.

If making bad movies disqualified you from serious thought we wouldn’t have had the benefit of Ronald Reagan’s career. Also, people can decide for themselves if Fred has what it takes, but shouldn’t consider his appearance on Roseanne Barr’s show.

Maher is probably more a mix of libertarian and liberal viewpoints. He voted for Dole against Clinton and has often spoken very highly of John McCain.

The big news on last night’s show was the interview with Chuck Hagel, who, Bernstein thought, sounded like he was angling for a third party run. Whoever gets the Republican nod is going to have to do a balancing act to avoid a run from either the conservative or moderate side of the party.

dedalus on September 15, 2007 at 8:56 PM

AP didn’t even mention the iPhone segment immediately after the Truther piece…guess he’s given up.

That’s because it hurt so bad… the nerd tax is true by default… that’s why it hurt.

And for those who wait even longer to buy the I-Phone? Well we are called the I-phoneys…. we just flat out don’t even care.

Mcguyver on September 15, 2007 at 10:47 PM

you want us to listen to them again , and clap them on the back, because they just happen to be right once??

I think it’s more a matter of “Even Bill Maher thinks you’re nucking futs, and he hates Bush as much as you do. Take off the tinfoil hat and come back to reality.”

And the sheep/wolves/sheepdogs metaphor is a great one, but so is Team America‘s p***ies/a**holes/d**ks metaphor.

The Monster on September 16, 2007 at 12:30 AM

scarey :shudders:

trailortrash on September 16, 2007 at 1:08 AM

JiangxiDad, I generally agree with your comments but on the one, above, I don’t. Some of you might be disappointed but I like his dry humor and his delivery. I don’t always agree with all he says but he’s one of a kind and his independence is inspiring.

Most of the time there is a kernel of truth in what he says, even if we don’t agree with him. I’m also puzzled by the inability to rebuild the towers sooner. I would have had them rebuilt in the first two years, exactly the same they used to be. Alas, they never asked me…

Loved the entire video. I used to watch him all the time but now only when on business trips and happen to wake up in the middle of the night, due to time differences…He’s an equal opportunity insulter. Maybe he doesn’t write this stuff but he can deliver it.

Entelechy on September 15, 2007 at 2:58 PM

True that….

AprilOrit on September 16, 2007 at 1:35 AM

You know I was really shocked that they did a segment today on Fox News with Katherine whats-her-name, (she’s the one who had the infant born with the problem) about an unidentified airplane – still to this day – that flew over the White House on 9/11, did anyone happen to see it? It was on in the afternoon.

It was very wierd and afterward I tried to find the story on their website, but was unsucessful. It was almost like they were insinuating that something wasn’t quite right with this phatom airplane.

I was really surprised to see a segment like this on Fox News. I just wasn’t sure what they were trying to put out there or what kind of ideas they were trying to plant in the viewer’s mind. They went as far as saying that the FBI and the CIA have never been able to identify it, it was freaky.

AprilOrit on September 16, 2007 at 3:00 AM

I try not to be a fan of Maher, but he makes it very difficult. Read his book When You Ride Alone You Ride With bin Laden and you will give him a measure of respect. Remove your bias and give his Bravery comment some thought and there is a little sense to it, though you needn’t agree. Heck, I don’t always agree with everything my best friend says; but I still appreciate a good friend. But, to not be able laugh at ANYTHING Maher says is a damn shame. It’s more fun to laugh than hate.

tgillian on September 16, 2007 at 8:52 AM

Terrorists are brave….Yet courage is not the dividing line between the two. Morality is.
Berating their manhood and attacking their courage as a tactic makes sense. But don’t you believe it.

Christoph on September 15, 2007 at 6:18 PM

Courage isn’t necessarily, or perhaps even usually the dividing line between the two. But in the case of 9-11 it is. Don’t confuse fighting soldiers in Iraq/Afghanistan with hijacking civilian airliners full of innocents and flying them into buildings, full of innocents. Same applies to the Beslan, Russia school killings. The first takes courage, the second is cowardice. The 9-11 hijackers were not courageous or moral,and therefore not manly. Maher draws no distinction. But wasn’t expecting you to say that.

JiangxiDad on September 16, 2007 at 9:48 AM

JiangxiDad on September 16, 2007 at 9:48 AM

Half-nonsense, half-right.

Christoph on September 16, 2007 at 9:54 AM

C-
Every now and then I copy a comment to my hard drive–because it’s good, and I might need to relearn the lesson later. I copied yours above–just fixed one or two things before I saved it.

JiangxiDad on September 16, 2007 at 10:10 AM

JiangxiDad, I quite agree their actions were horrible and definitely a lot less honourable than calling up USSOCOM and saying, “We, 19 men will fight you bastards, send your best against us!” but even then the special forces wouldn’t have responded with equal force. They would have used overwhelming force, superior numbers, or, if possible, an air strike.

Muslim military tactics are, as I mentioned, different than Western tactics (Mark Victor Hansen had a great article about this, which I can’t find this morning) and it is barbaric by European/Western standards… but frankly, our standards allow for a lot of death and carnage too.

We will always have a bias for our way of waging war. I am, frankly, okay with not targeting an enemies’ civilians specifically because that’s abhorrent for me too.

But, JD, I am reluctantly forced to conclude that going to your enemies’ country, the most powerful in the world, to train and learn how to take over airliners with piddling little knives, then to knowingly fly those same planes into your enemies’ buildings, one or even two if the second had been successful of which was a valid military target by Western standards, however monstrous, takes discipline and courage:

cour·age (kûrj, kr-)
n.
The state or quality of mind or spirit that enables one to face danger, fear, or vicissitudes with self-possession, confidence, and resolution; bravery.

It meets this test.

I’m not saying it’s good: Courage, in the pursuit of evil, is still evil.

Hence the dividing line is indeed morality.

If you’re going to save something to your hard drive and print it off, which I highly recommend, then make it the article I linked to. It is profound.

Christoph on September 16, 2007 at 10:30 AM

Christoph on September 16, 2007 at 10:30 AM

Haven’t read what you linked to yet, but will.

And I don’t really disagree with what you are essentially saying, but I have some problems with it around the edges.

The 9-11 attackers more rightly were committing suicide, with victims they didn’t really have to face. However, if you feel that bravery is one of the attributes necessary for successful suicide, then I will understand your point better, but I still wouldn’t agree.

In certain circumstances, great bravery may be necessary for suicide, but never if you’re taking someone else with you.

JiangxiDad on September 16, 2007 at 10:48 AM

Christoph-

Hahaha. I have that page saved, and have sent it to many others. Terrific.

JiangxiDad on September 16, 2007 at 10:50 AM

Well, it was nice talking to you, JiangxiDad. I’m going to go and get some work done.

Been wrestling with a thorny tech problem for some time I still haven’t solved. Now I’ve got another idea to test.

Christoph on September 16, 2007 at 11:05 AM

I still haven’t gotten over his Steve Irwin costume. And I won’t. So ‘f’ him.

-tl

tlynch001 on September 16, 2007 at 3:57 PM

Thanks Allah. Pretty funny stuff unless you take Mr. Bill too seriously.
Maher’s smart, clever, and glib. I laugh when I can without feeling guilty.

Randy

williars on September 16, 2007 at 5:19 PM

That was like when Politically Incorrect first started. He must have got his old writers back. That was some funny stuff.

TheSitRep on September 16, 2007 at 9:58 PM