A-freakin-men!

RightWinged on September 15, 2007 at 12:53 AM

I quoted you at length because I really do agree with every word - in that statement.

I had no intent to imply you agreed with what I said afterword and I don’t think I did so but understand why you would want to clarify in this medium.

I went a little further than what I I started out trying to say. But, when I got to the end, it just seemed logical; if I placed such a high weight on proven leadership and a strong backbone and I had all those ? Checks for Rudy; I was putting him at the top of the list and checking to see if others could knock him off. So I said it.

As I said, Rudy has a few positions which trouble me but we don’t get to assemble candidates like robots from our favorite parts, we have to choose a real live package. Currently the Rudy Package is, for me, the front runner.

Of course, there are many out there who will try to take a candidate with no actual endoskeleton and mold them into the perfect exterior representation of the electable candidate. But that is another subject.

On Topic: I liked the ad.

Because of my ability to read and digest both sides it is easier to determine what is the right thing to do. Therefore, Move On needs to be Moved Out, because it dose not respect the country that let’s it exist.

Also, Hitlery’s continued association with such groups will not serve her well and even her health care program can not cure her.

Giuliani is doing what he does best, attacking, relentlessly hammering at the weakness created by his opponent.

However, as per usual, AP pulls a John McCain/Olympia Snowe move and needs to show ability to be fair as opposed to relentless.

Can’t have a Republican taking initiative, that wouldn’t be prudent.

Wow, grtflmark, unbridled passion and a Clash reference. You’re allright with me!

MikeZero on September 15, 2007 at 1:37 AM

Dang it, beat me.

RUDY CAN’T FAIL!!!!

grtflmark on September 14, 2007 at 11:18 PM

You said Rudy can’t fail. hehe

- The Cat

Nah. Probably the 2nd amendment. Biggest reason Rudy would have to be the nominee before I’d ever think of voting for him.

Kowboy on September 14, 2007 at 5:43 PM
Me too. Rudy pretty much cooked himself for me when he touted the Brady bill as the end-all be-all of crime reduction in an interview with Hannity following the last debate.

mojojojo on September 14, 2007 at 7:08 PM

Guilani has always been on the wrong side of the Second Amendment.

That will cost him votes in the general.

Don’t take my word for it.

Consult the Goracle.

Giuliani’s finished. Once Mitt and Fred really turn up the speakers on his social policies, he’ll sink like a stone.

Allahpundit on September 14, 2007 at 5:08 PM

Hmm…then Fred! turns up the speakers on the contrasts between Tennessee Republicanism against Massachusetts Republicanism?

Thompson/Hunter

AZCON on September 14, 2007 at 5:20 PM

That’ll lock in the dyslexic stoner vote.
(yeah…i went there.)

Unquiet on September 14, 2007 at 9:59 PM

Good points all, Unquiet, but I have to distance myself from you a bit… I’m not supporting Rudy. I certainly will take him over any Democrat if that’s what it comes to… but I’m currently not a supporter.

My comments were simply about the ad. I think the ad was great, and am not clear on why Allah finds it “shameless”?

Why in the name of GOD do idiots on the right have to PICK APART motives and “the way you’re doing it” when someone with GUTS and BRAINS FINALLY has the PRINCIPLES, CHARACTER and MORAL FIBER to call the seditious Mouthpieces for The Terrorists WHAT THEY ARE?

If YOU or anyone else thinks that there is some sort of “sin” in the way Rudy CORRECTLY RIPPED HILLARY and her Terrorist-Loving buddies MOVEON.ORG a new one, please listen carefully:

YOU ARE AN IDIOT!!!!

I don’t CARE if Rudy turned his Ad into a COMPLETE campaign-promoting, horn-tooting, self-aggrandizing oil bath (which he didn’t) – HE DID THE RIGHT THING, THANK GOD

FINALLY!

MY only question is: WHY HAVEN’T MORE PEOPLE WITH PRINCIPLES DONE IT, TOO?

We NEED people like Rudy to STAND UP to these BULLIES EVERY DAY – Day after Day after Day after DAY!!

PLEASE – Let’s mount a REAL Attack on these enemies of Freedom!

God Bless RUDY!! RUDY CAN’T FAIL!!!!

RightWinged on September 14, 2007 at 5:09 PM

“In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members … It is clear, however, that if left unchecked,
Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons.”
– Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

If you have two candidates, and one wants to bring your kids backs from Iraq, that is a powerful incentive for many conservative voters. That is the only way a radioactive robot like Billary could ever have a chance of winning the Whitehouse. People will hold their noses and vote Democrat for that reason. That is my fear.

If the troops were home already, she would not have that natural advantage, and the Whitehouse would stay GOP. Unfortunately, that won’t happen, and the GOP nominee will have to defend the Iraq war as well as his own conservative domestic policies. It puts him at a natural disadvantage. The ideological struggle in this election is close enough without that handicap.

I don’t really think it’s shameless, I think it’s completely appropriate. I’m not a Rudy supporter, but someone finally has the balls to expose her. You realize of course that most people out there are too stupid to be aware that Hillary supported this war, and that her and the other Dems spent 13 years making the WMD case, and only called Bush a liar when the 2004 election cycle got underway.

They used that as an issue to divide a united country, because they stood no chance of winning otherwise.. they still didn’t win (that election), but that’s why it was done, and because of the current state of our media most people are still unaware today. I’m not going to get in to my belief that the WMDs were there, but I’ll just note that the war and Bush’s approval would be a hell of a lot better, if the Dems had simply stuck by their own WMD arguments and the war, which based on that WMD intel from around the world, was necessary in a post-9/11 world. The Dems didn’t turn against the war out of conviction, they did it because they had to divide the country or they’d have been out of power indefinitely. And this sick SOBs are still doing it today, emboldening the enemy to fight another day with each defeatist comment they make, promising to surrender if they’re elected.

If you ask me (which you didn’t, I know), Rudy’s not only not being “shameful”, he’s not going far enough. Outside of shamnesty ‘07, that’s been my biggest beef with Bush. Bending over for these disgusting and evil Democrats (and yes I said evil, for anyone who hasn’t heard it explained “why” before… I can if necessary), and he never responded. Thinking he was staying out of the mud put him where he is today.

RightWinged on September 14, 2007 at 5:09 PM

I agree with RightWinged – every word.

I don’t agree with Rudy on all the key issues but I do think he may be the only Republican who can beat whatever defeatist, redistributionist, international consensus following leader emerges from the Democratic primary.

Times dictate we have a leader in 2008: not a political strategist; not a policy wonk, not someone who plays a leader on TV; a real tried and tested leader. We also need an a leader who can articulate what we are doing and why and who can and will defend those ideas when challenged. Rudy fits that bill. – Bush has the backbone but is not strong in front of the cameras – I keep hearing people protest his repeated references to New York but I don’t see why. Can anybody name another job that would be a better proving ground for all the skills required than being an Republican Mayor of New York?

Tough issues? Check
Hostile legislature? Check
Media spotlight? Check
Big Business Lobbyist? Check
Big Budget? Check
Under attack by terrorist? Check
Divers Population? Check
Organized Crime? Check
Big Unions? Check

… And Rudy did the job well.

– I think I have just convinced myself Rudy has the top the the hill unless somebody else in the primary knocks him off .

How on earth do you get from here to “Giuliani’s finished.”? I get that you’re offended by his “silkification” of Petraeus, but what communication from anyone, anywhere in politics doesn’t include a solicitation? I get that you think he was trying to politicize Petraeus to personal advantage, but frankly, a full page ad devoted to a patriotic, statemanlike defense of the general would hardly have looked any less self-serving.

In terms of presidential politics, Giuliani clearly realized that the really, really BIG mistake here was not the Moveon ad, but Hillary’s “willing suspension of disbelief.” Not only has Giuliani permanently tied that comment, and thus Hillary herself, to Moveon’s atrocious blunder, he has memorialized an unforced Clinton error which might otherwise have been all too easily buried by the time the primaries even roll around. As Petraeus’ potential Commander in Chief, I believe that emblematic Clinton statement should, and will, thanks to Rudy, come back to haunt her in the general election.

As a bonus, Giuliani has also paved the way for cheap advocacy ads at the New York Times’ expense — not to mention future placement for groups that the Times once felt free to shun.

Tasteless, perhaps, but all in all, not a bad day’s work.

Given the steep uphill climb ahead, Giuliani is the only Republican candidate with a realistic prayer of actual election in ‘08, and I, for one, think that ultimate success in Iraq depends a lot more on putting another Republican in the White House than on what happens in the interim. There is certainly no small measure of Bush fatigue on the right, but I think folks monumentally underestimate the extent to which that fatigue, rightly or wrongly, extends by conflation to conservatives — and especially social conservatives — in the body politic.

Like it or not, the kind of credentials that seem to excite the Fred/Huckabee/Hunter/Newt fans will put any Republican candidate at a serious disadvantage which he will end up spending most of his time and energy struggling to overcome when we get to the national election. Democrats can’t put Rudy in that box; he can come out fighting Hillary from the get go — as he’s already doing — instead of having to fight his way out of the conservative corner she’ll have put him in first. Giuliani is pre-emptively defining her right now, and that’s something that every Republican in the running ought to be thanking him for doing.