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Mexican Intelligence: Hugo Chavez equips and funds the Pemex pipeline bombers

posted at 7:07 pm on September 13, 2007 by see-dubya
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So I go through the Peruvian papers to try to follow up on this odd little item, and what do I see but a report originating with Mexican intelligence about who’s behind the Sep. 10 pipeline Pemex bombings in Veracruz (which I wrote about here).

You could knock me over with a straw:

The subversive group, the Revolutionary Popular Army (EPR), that claimed responsibility yesterday the attacks against six gas pipelines of state-owned Mexican Petroleum (PEMEX), is financed by the government of Hugo Chavez, according to a press report based on the Mexican intelligence service.

The EPR is financed by the government of Venezuela through the “Mexican Movement Bolivariano” (MMB), according to a report of the daily Rumbo de Mexico, based on reports of the intelligence agencies of the Federal Government.

The media published, several weeks ago, a note titled “the Networks of Hugo Chavez in Mexico”, in which it details that, from 2001, a base for [?] armed and subversive groups was formed. The EPR is indicated to be likely the most important, because it has received material, armament, and economic support .

In the 2005, the agents discovered a container secured in the port of Veracruz that contained several hundred AK-47s, which were sent by means of a triangulation through different countries, whose adressees were in fact under orders of the EPR. They also noted an entrance of armaments through the border with Guatemala, that was distributed between the cells of the EPR of Veracruz, Oaxaca, Guerrero, Michoacán, Hidalgo, state of Mexico and the Federal District.

In addition, that same year an activist of the “Bolivarian Continental Coordinator” - one of whose cells is the MMB-, Alondra Durán Oviedo, was stopped in Canada by intelligence agents. In her suitcase they found documents of the EPR, of the FARC, the Zapatista National Liberation Army, and of the Bolivarian Army as well as guerrilla manuals and instructions for the manufacture of homemade explosive devices.

Translation’s my own with a little backup from Google; help me out if you see any errors. The Rumbo de Mexico article they reference is here, and there’s more (in English) about Chavez’s attempts to subvert Mexico (and Canada! How about that?) in this 2005 article at VCrisis.

Hmm. Arms being smuggled into Mexico over their southern border? Sounds like they should look into some sort of fence…


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Hmm. Arms being smuggled into Mexico over their southern border? Sounds like they should look into some sort of fence…

Heck no. How can I get one of those AKs?

PRCalDude on September 13, 2007 at 7:09 PM

Will the newly named nation of Hugo now make it onto the terror supporting county’s list and how does that effect oil exports?

Heck no. How can I get one of those AKs?

You can probably get one any time you want…the unpleasant way.

Speakup on September 13, 2007 at 7:17 PM

No - just look at the heads of the Baja law enforcement who came to Phx, AZ last weekend & bought weapons illegally. Arrested & then released on $2,000 each. Much more to this story.

Kat13 on September 13, 2007 at 7:21 PM

Interesting, Canada? Attacking our flanks? Hugo generally takes the direct approach. Changing tactics by promoting a proxy war?

We’ll have to worry when the French Canadians start crossing the border illegally and we have kanuck sanctuary cities.

Kini on September 13, 2007 at 7:25 PM

Well, when I said “subvert Canada” I meant she was trying to subvert a few Canadians of Latino ancestry, not the whole nation.

see-dubya on September 13, 2007 at 7:27 PM

Well, there’s our PR angle for Mexico. Let’s not open our borders. Let’s do have some bombing runs together.

Gotta say, the wow factor is pretty high there.

TexasDan on September 13, 2007 at 7:28 PM

If I were President Bush, I’d be making a call to the President of Mexico expressing my outrage at this act of war against Mexico, and be offering whatever logistical support he needs should he undergo a military response.

redshirt on September 13, 2007 at 7:31 PM

not surprising, he has the money to spread around to help out his ‘allies’ on the war against the yanquies

Canadian Imperialist Running Dog on September 13, 2007 at 7:34 PM

Gotta say, the wow factor is pretty high there.

I like to hear that.

…should he undergo a military response.

Well, we can dream.

see-dubya on September 13, 2007 at 7:35 PM

If I were President Bush, I’d be making a call to the President of Mexico expressing my outrage at this act of war against Mexico, and be offering whatever logistical support he needs should he undergo a military response.

redshirt on September 13, 2007 at 7:31 PM

Mexico’s elite deserves whatever comes their way. Overthrows in that country happen every 100 years, like clockwork. They’re behind the current “Plan de San Diego” being foisted on us now. They’re at war with us.

PRCalDude on September 13, 2007 at 7:36 PM

Well, when I said “subvert Canada” I meant she was trying to subvert a few Canadians of Latino ancestry, not the whole nation.

see-dubya on September 13, 2007 at 7:27 PM

Ah, I see! I’m suprised Hugo haven’t enlisted the South American version of hezbollah? They might be already be in Canada and not necessary of Hispanic ancestry.

Kini on September 13, 2007 at 7:37 PM

Ooo, Mexico vs Venezuela cage fight!
Or a new entry into the Soccer War pantheon.
I’d just love to see Mexico invade ‘em. Of course since they all speak Spanish down there, how’d you ever tell?

Iblis on September 13, 2007 at 7:42 PM

From 9/10/02

Can’t find anyone they have a defense pact with.

Mexico’s government announced Sept. 6 that it would withdraw from a mutual defense pact signed in 1947 with the United States and other members of the Organization of American States. Its withdrawal from the treaty, which Mexican officials say is obsolete, should not affect U.S.-Mexican cooperation in preventing the entry of potential terrorists to the United States, but it could set a precedent among other Latin American countries.

Analysis

The government of Mexico announced Sept. 6 its decision to withdraw from the Inter-American Reciprocal Assistance Treaty (TIAR), the hemispheric mutual defense pact signed in 1947 by the member countries of the Organization of American States (OAS). Under the TIAR’s statutes, Mexico’s withdrawal will become official on Sept. 6, 2004.

The TIAR, also called the Rio Treaty because it was signed in the Brazilian city of Rio de Janeiro, defends the principle of non-interventionism in the internal affairs of the region’s democracies and proclaims regional solidarity for any member attacked from abroad. When it was signed 55 years ago, the perceived enemy was the former Soviet Union. The treaty has been invoked at least 20 times since 1947, most recently at Brazil’s request after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks in the United States.

Mexican President Vicente Fox planned to announce Mexico’s withdrawal from the TIAR a year ago. During a speech at OAS headquarters in Washington, D.C., on Sept. 7, 2001, Fox described the pact as a “Cold War relic” that was inadequate for the new internal and external security threats confronting Latin America in the 21st century. In Mexico’s view, these new threats are social and economic rather than military.

JiangxiDad on September 13, 2007 at 7:54 PM

Yet another war financed by oil. We need to start build nuclear power plants now and drive the price of oil down to choke off the source.

pedestrian on September 13, 2007 at 7:56 PM

Yet another war financed by oil. We need to start build nuclear power plants now and drive the price of oil down to choke off the source.

pedestrian on September 13, 2007 at 7:56 PM

How will building nuclear power plants drive the price of oil down?

Oldnuke on September 13, 2007 at 8:04 PM

How will building nuclear power plants drive the price of oil down?

Oldnuke on September 13, 2007 at 8:04 PM

OK, well not just build them, but operate them to generate electricity and reduce our imports of oil.

pedestrian on September 13, 2007 at 8:29 PM

How will building nuclear power plants drive the price of oil down?

Oldnuke on September 13, 2007 at 8:04 PM

Use excess nuke power to make hydrogen, build a distribution network for it and run cars off hydrogen. The hydrogen internal combustion engine is a reality. And basically you can use hydrogen to do anything you can do with natural gas.

Maxx on September 13, 2007 at 8:43 PM

pedestrian on September 13, 2007 at 8:29 PM

Adding nuclear generating capacity doesn’t reduce our oil usage. Oil accounts for only about 3% of US electricity production, coal for about 50%. Can’t see how building nuclear power plants will reduce oil usage or reduce oil imports.

Oldnuke on September 13, 2007 at 8:47 PM

Maxx on September 13, 2007 at 8:43 PM

Sorry but you’re talking about introducing an entirely new technology. A new nuke plant will cost at least 5 billion dollars to build. No power company is going to invest that much money in a totally untested untried technology with no guaranteed base of income. Ain’t gonna happen.

Oldnuke on September 13, 2007 at 8:50 PM

Nuclear power is a viable source for reliable production of safe non polluting electric energy. It is competitive with any other source of power production except hydro, but it ain’t no silver bullet.

Oldnuke on September 13, 2007 at 8:53 PM

Sorry but you’re talking about introducing an entirely new technology. A new nuke plant will cost at least 5 billion dollars to build. No power company is going to invest that much money in a totally untested untried technology with no guaranteed base of income. Ain’t gonna happen.

Oldnuke on September 13, 2007 at 8:50 PM

You may be right, but I hope your wrong. Hydrogen should be the energy of the future because it’s clean and no end to the supply. I think there are companies looking at it, whether it goes forward or not, who knows. But it would be the perfect solution.

Maxx on September 13, 2007 at 8:57 PM

So now what, is Mexico going to declare war on Venezuela or are they going to expect the United States to do it ?

Maxx on September 13, 2007 at 9:04 PM

Maxx on September 13, 2007 at 9:04 PM

Just doin the jobs Mexicans won’t do.

JiangxiDad on September 13, 2007 at 9:26 PM

Pshaw.

All Mexico has to do is redirect her noble workforce into Venezuela (to do the work that Venezuelans won’t do). Conflict over.

RushBaby on September 13, 2007 at 9:50 PM

I’m not surprised this is the case. In fact, I speculated about this yesterday on the previous post re: this incident…

I would take a strong look at Chavez being behind this group. One, he’s not a fan of the current Mexican president and wants to create instability there, and by default, in our backyard. Two, he’s known to fund other guerrila outfits in Latin America. And, the apparent increase in sophistication with this attack could suggest training and support from a government. Three, losses in Mexican production may drive customers to Venezuela. Four, he wants the price of oil to go up so he can make more money.

This will be something worth keeping an eye on.

Now we know why he was buying all those AK-47s from Russia. This is troubling. This is a dangerous escalation within our hemisphere. Chavez has a list of reasons for doing this and likely has plans for a lot more. Time to revive the Monroe Doctrine. And yes, consideration should be given to adding the Chavez regime to the state sponsors of terror list.

CP on September 13, 2007 at 10:03 PM

We need to start drilling in ANWR, increase drilling in the Gulf of Mexico and build a few new refineries. That is an easy problem to solve. We have huge oil resources our gov’t won’t let private industry touch.

Perhaps if Mexico would get in a shooting war with Venezuela, perhaps they would need most of that 10% of their work force here back home. En masse self-deportation of illegals would obviously be the ideal. Several problems solved at once.

deepdiver on September 13, 2007 at 10:05 PM

This entire story stinks of a little too much convenience.

Prepare yourselves for the predictable call for the “North American Community” to stand together against such threats. How convenient, with what’s going on now, that the new face of evil would make such a bold move against Mexico and Canada. Bush holds press conference offering his support to both of our good neighbors in 5 - 4 - 3 - 2 …

Gregor on September 13, 2007 at 10:52 PM

I hope this gets picked up on and ran with, because if true, it’s only a matter of time until . . .

- The Cat

MirCat on September 13, 2007 at 11:03 PM

Gregor. seriously:

I found this story by chance in the Peruvian newspaper. Me. See-Dubya. Your old buddy See-Dub who wants a real fence on the border. It was not a tip from SPP HQ. It’s not being picked up by the MSM and any publicity it gets will be because I was invited to post at Hot Air this week.

We’re not part of the NAU conspiracy. It doesn’t exist, and if it did, I don’t think they’d invite us.

Well, maybe Bryan.

see-dubya on September 13, 2007 at 11:16 PM

I have little doubt that Chavez is fostering revolution in Mexico, the place is ripe for it.

Buzzy on September 13, 2007 at 11:36 PM

Adding nuclear generating capacity doesn’t reduce our oil usage. Oil accounts for only about 3% of US electricity production, coal for about 50%. Can’t see how building nuclear power plants will reduce oil usage or reduce oil imports.

Oldnuke on September 13, 2007 at 8:47 PM

It’s a first step in upgrading our power-generation capacity such that we might eventually have enough excess electrical production to financially offset the inefficiencies of things like hydrogen fuel cells in cars and trucks. It’s not the last step by any means, or even the hardest. But breaking our nation’s irrational moratorium on nuclear energy has to happen if future generations, if not our own, has a chance of reducing oil consumption without devastating the national economy.

Blacklake on September 14, 2007 at 12:05 AM

But breaking our nation’s irrational moratorium on nuclear energy has to happen if future generations, if not our own, has a chance of reducing oil consumption without devastating the national economy.

Blacklake on September 14, 2007 at 12:05 AM

Yes, breaking the moratorium on nuclear energy is the hard part. The rest of it is technology we already have. Nuclear power plants are nothing new and if these guys can build hydrogen internal combustion engines out of old used engine blocks then I’m pretty sure Ford can do it.

Producing hydrogen is easy, all you need is electricity and water. So build a couple of dozen nuclear power plants to get us way ahead of the curve as far as requirements for cheap electricity and use the excess power to produce hydrogen, then we don’t need no stinkin oil.

Maxx on September 14, 2007 at 12:19 AM

Boom goes the dynamite!

The Race Card on September 14, 2007 at 2:34 AM

I call BS. Or at least, possible BS. It’s no secret the Mexican govt wants to portray its cooperation as vital for any number of reasons. Claiming that someone they know to be on our bad list, someone who’s continually and publicly insulting us, is attacking them as well just reeks of a pretext.

Open the borders to fight terrorism!

Please let’s not forget that the Mexican government, in the current geopolitical climate, is openly hostile to the expressed interests of the United States.

Besides which, such a move doesn’t make much sense on Hugo’s part.

jdub on September 14, 2007 at 2:46 AM

The Race Card on September 14, 2007 at 2:34 AM

LOL that was hard to watch.

trailortrash on September 14, 2007 at 8:51 AM

So Pat Robertson is not crazy?

Drtuddle on September 14, 2007 at 12:20 PM


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