Comments on: Senate votes to ban Mexican trucks from U.S. highways; Update: Would Mexican truckers have slowed illegal immigration?

By: Legions

Legions — Wed, 12 Sep 2007 22:22:21 +0000

correction- bunch.. a bunch of bouncers. Otherwise nice guys.

By: Legions

Legions — Wed, 12 Sep 2007 22:16:57 +0000

Durbin…Obama..??? votes to ban mexican trucks, yet are more than willing to turn the state of ILL(like in sick)into a sanctuary state..forget sanctuary cities these two are looking at turning the whole state into little mexico..The only reason they voted this way was, they had nothing to lose and being indebted to a bounce of teamsters kind of forces some issues whether you like it or not.

By: flenser

flenser — Wed, 12 Sep 2007 21:40:40 +0000

Hunter and Tancredo did not vote against it. They voted for it. Hunter was the bills sponsor in the House.

By: ScottyDog

ScottyDog — Wed, 12 Sep 2007 17:51:41 +0000

I don’t get it. On its face this ban sounds great, but then why are so many Republicans voting against it? Nay votes from Lott, Graham, Kyl and the rest of the open-borders crowd I get, but even Hunter and Tancredo voted against it in the House.

What am I missing here?

2Brave2Bscared on September 12, 2007 at 1:13 PM

They are RHINOS

By: Gianni

Gianni — Wed, 12 Sep 2007 17:43:20 +0000

Hunter and Tancredo voted for the amendment in the House. In fact Hunter sponsored it.

By: 2Brave2Bscared

2Brave2Bscared — Wed, 12 Sep 2007 17:13:11 +0000

I don’t get it. On its face this ban sounds great, but then why are so many Republicans voting against it? Nay votes from Lott, Graham, Kyl and the rest of the open-borders crowd I get, but even Hunter and Tancredo voted against it in the House.

What am I missing here?

By: Zetterson

Zetterson — Wed, 12 Sep 2007 17:11:23 +0000

McCain, “Mr Straight Talker,” did not want to touch this one.

By: Miss_Anthrope

Miss_Anthrope — Wed, 12 Sep 2007 16:44:13 +0000

Bad Candy on September 12, 2007 at 11:41 AM

I know it’s oversimplification…I didn’t think all the issues/factors could fit into my post, so I left alot out intentionally.

My primary point was just that I don’t trust the Mexican gov’t to “work” with us, no matter how many offers we make.

It’s not in their best interest to do so.

By: Christine

Christine — Wed, 12 Sep 2007 16:43:44 +0000

“A fair point by Rob Port about the benefits of free trade. NAFTA’s had a decade to “invigorate” Mexico’s economy, though, and yet the oceans of illegals continue to pour over the border. Why would you believe trucking would make any appreciable difference?”
I wish there was a “fair point” about this deal. There’s the lu-lu that ‘gee, we get to go to Mejiko in our trucks so that the MS13 can decapitate us, take our rigs, sell them to the drug cartels, or the policia can throw us into some rat hole prison or, at best, have desperate Mexican nationalsrip us off to feed their families.
Well, Dubya is in full global bloom with this deal. I don’t want to get too optimistic about the Senate stopping this–they too want a seat at the table of power, you know the one that AP says doesn’t exist…the NAU. It’s not going away, it’s here to stay and no act of Congress can stop the Captains of Industry. Besides, Calderon (our other Presidente) says that ‘Mexico doesn’t stop at the border’ and ‘wherever there is a Mexican, there is Mexico’. As much as this infuriates and sickens me, I have to agree. From my vantage point in San Diego County I have witnessed the invasion happen slowly and insiduously, and it will take a miracle to bring order to the border states, if not to the entire republic.

By: b4itsover

b4itsover — Wed, 12 Sep 2007 16:33:13 +0000

Cornyn and Hutchinson are not on our side. The only reason they caved on the Shamnesty bill is because of the loud roar they heard from their constituents. I guess this means they really didn’t learn anything from that. That we Texans must be ever vigilant against their voting, on every bill concerning our national security and the safety and well being of US and Texas citizens.

By: crosspatch

crosspatch — Wed, 12 Sep 2007 15:55:33 +0000

Another vote based on emotion and not on intellect. Tearing down trade barriers WILL make things better but it takes longer than a US election cycle or two. It can take a generation or two and people want a “fix” that works in a decade or less.

On the other hand, US retirees are moving to Mexico in droves resulting in a building boom on Mexico’s Pacific coast. It is getting easier for Mexicans to find jobs at home as more and more Americans move there to escape the high cost of living on this side of the border.

By: Bad Candy

Bad Candy — Wed, 12 Sep 2007 15:41:46 +0000

Romeo13 on September 12, 2007 at 1:14 AM

Dunno why you’re b*tching at me here, I was merely suggesting why DeMint would oppose the measure for those reasons.

Miss_Anthrope on September 12, 2007 at 11:07 AM

That’s an oversimplification. You forget that at this point, many simple manufactures were folding/shutting down/downsizing in the US because of high labor/material cost, NAFTA itself didn’t fail in Mexico, it had its legs cut out from under it when China and India opened their markets and provided an even cheaper source of labor, resources and domestic markets.

A huge chunk of manufacturing operations were moved to China and India that would have otherwise been put together in Mexico and Latin America. Early industrial economies rely on simple manufacturing as their base, all that stuff is in Asia now. Of course this is complicated by all the stuff you mention, and the rampant corruption in Latin American gov’ts.

By: Miss_Anthrope

Miss_Anthrope — Wed, 12 Sep 2007 15:07:20 +0000

Bad Candy on September 11, 2007 at 10:24 PM

Although I agree with your comment re: draconian measures & protectionism, I have a slightly different take on free trade with Mexico (which I consider a special case).

NAFTA did have a decade to work, and it didn’t. Why was that, people wonder? Because the Mexican government has a vested interest, both financially & politically, to send its people to the US!

Although numerous companies have invested in manufacturing, drilling, etc. in Mexico, we still have this huge influx of illegals. That’s because Mexico’s 2nd largest contributor to their GDP, or “industry,” is EFT’s from the US.

EFT = Electronic Funds Transfer!

Combine that income with the Aztlan initiative and you have your answer to the “failure” of NAFTA. Why would allowing truckers in from Mexico do any better?

I have a friend in the oil business who had to cross into Matamoros to view the fields there. He’s a tough guy, and he was always nervous about this part of his job.

He knew of kidnappings & murders committed by 14-year-olds at the behest of the local drug dealers. It was crazy…there is no need to open our roads up any more.

I think we should shut them down entirely…let’s stick with Canada!

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By: Ortzinator

Ortzinator — Wed, 12 Sep 2007 13:47:22 +0000

Both my Senators are in the nays. :(

By: serpentineshel

serpentineshel — Wed, 12 Sep 2007 13:43:55 +0000

LegendHasit,

I wouldn’t be relaxing my vigilance on the road any if I were you. I wish I could remember where I read the article, but I did read recently about the utter corruption within our own trucking industry. You might be surprised to find out just how many Mexicans (in the form of illegal aliens–as well as people from other countries) are behind the wheel of the trucks on the road now. Probably not so surprised to learn how few of them can speak English.

Shel

By: PatrickS

PatrickS — Wed, 12 Sep 2007 13:39:22 +0000

All I can say is I’ve seen some pretty rickety Mexican Veeee-Hicles on the SoCal Freeways that would make Uncle Jed flinch.

By: Wade

Wade — Wed, 12 Sep 2007 13:16:15 +0000

While I’m a believer that unions have far outlived their usefullness, this pro-union vote is one I’ll gladly take, as a positive step in protecting our sovereignty.

fogw on September 11, 2007 at 10:23 PM

You said it for me. The unions just like Boosh have times when right and times when wrong. This time the unions are right. Ant bets on Boosh?

By: SouthernDem

SouthernDem — Wed, 12 Sep 2007 12:46:09 +0000

Ahhh, the irony is delicious. At least the unions still have some things right.

By: Clark1

Clark1 — Wed, 12 Sep 2007 12:34:12 +0000

I don’t see what the big deal is about Mexican trucks. As long as they drive them back over the border when their run is done, is this anything other than a Teamster payout?

By: stenwin77

stenwin77 — Wed, 12 Sep 2007 11:55:51 +0000

Wrong. The R&D is paid for by your and my tax dollars. Look at the stem cell research debate. It is about FEDERAL DOLLARS going to R&D. That has nothing to do with the cost of the drugs that it creates. We pay taxes for R&D, and Pharma companies are publicly traded companies to get the money for R&D.

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No, you are wrong. It is a mixture of both but the majority of funding is either private funding or from the drug comapnies. Also, factor into the drug costs the astronomical litigation (liability protection) exposure. The cost and ease of suing companies (especially drug and medical companies) in this company is absolutely killing our health care system.

By: Buzzy

Buzzy — Wed, 12 Sep 2007 11:55:36 +0000

We more towards the middle of the end but whose counting. And yeah, it’s true our sovereignty has already been signed away with international courts holding more power over our federal highway system than our own congress.

By: Legions

Legions — Wed, 12 Sep 2007 10:12:44 +0000

The beginning of the end..well its a start..

By: saved

saved — Wed, 12 Sep 2007 09:32:00 +0000

Since the one-world government people are against borders, let’s vote to eliminate Mexican trucks from Mexican roads too.

And, two more quickies:

Bush needs a dose of whoop-a$$ veto override.

Where’s the fence?

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