Apostate Muslims begin fight for religious freedom from Islam
posted at 12:54 pm on September 11, 2007 by Bryan
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A group of young Muslim apostates launches a campaign today, the anniversary of the 9/11 attacks on America, to make it easier to renounce Islam.
The provocative move reflects a growing rift between traditionalists and a younger generation raised on a diet of Dutch tolerance.
That tolerance has been a very one-way street for far too long.
Ehsan Jami, the committee’s founder, who rejected Islam after the attack on the twin towers in 2001, has become the most talked-about public figure in the Netherlands. He has been forced into hiding after a series of death threats and a recent attack.
The threats are taken seriously after the murder in 2002 of Pim Fortuyn, an antiimmigration politician, and in 2004 of Theo Van Gogh, an antiIslam film-maker.
Speaking to The Times at a secret location before the committee’s launch today, the Labour Party councillor said that the movement would declare war on radical Islam. Similar organisations campaigning for reform of the religion have sprung up across Europe and representatives from Britain and Germany will join the launch in The Hague today.
“Sharia schools say that they will kill the ones who leave Islam. In the West people get threatened, thrown out of their family, beaten up,” Mr Jami said. “In Islam you are born Muslim. You do not even choose to be Muslim. We want that to change, so that people are free to choose who they want to be and what they want to believe in.”
Mr Jami, 22, who has abandoned his studies as his political career has taken off, denied that the choice of September 11 was deliberately provocative towards the Islamic Establishment. “We chose the date because we want to make a clear statement that we no longer tolerate the intolerence of Islam, the terrorist attacks,” he said.
“In 1965 the Church in Holland made a declaration that freedom of conscience is above hanging on to religion, so you can choose whether you are going to be a Christian or not. What we are seeking is the same thing for Islam.”
The intolerance of which Jami speaks isn’t the result of any “hijacking” of Islam: It’s from the Koran and the Hadith. The Times obfuscates a bit in a “Related Link” to this, but it’s a doctrine shared by millions of Muslims the world over. In Saudi Arabia, for instance, apostasy can earn a beheading. We ought to ask ourselves, if a Muslim living in the Netherlands has to live in hiding after renouncing Islam, is the world becoming more like the tolerant Netherlands or like the Kingdom of Saud?
Mr Jami, who has compared the rise of radical Islam to the threat from Nazism in the 1930s, is receiving only lukewarm support from his party which traditionally relies upon Muslim votes. His outspoken attack on radical Islam has led to a prelaunch walk-out from fellow committee founder Loubna Berrada, who herself rejected Islam.
Well I think that answers the question.
I wish Mr. Jami well. He has a long and dangerous fight ahead of him, with few allies at hand to support him. He’ll be castigated as a bigot and probably called a Nazi before it’s all over, to say nothing of the very real physical threat that has already seen Pim Fortuyn and Theo Van Gogh murdered and Ayaan Hirsi Ali exiled to the US. But it’s a fight worth waging, if there ever was one.
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He’s already a dead man, but God/Allah/Buddha/No One bless him. He’s got a hell of a lot of guts, and I hope his message reverberates louder than any explosion.
MadisonConservative on September 11, 2007 at 12:59 PM
MORE! MORE! MORE!
When any society can not only tolerate, but protect, apostates from any religion, then you will see the decline of radicalism and militant religious belief manifested into violence.
This man is a hero to all civilized people everywhere!
And, no, I am not a Christopher Hitchens groupie (even though I have much respect for the man). I happen to have distinct religious beliefs.
thejackal on September 11, 2007 at 1:01 PM
I am afraid that it is too little too late. Call me a pessimist but I feel the winds of war have only really begun to blow. I feel that we may be on the precipice of something major in the near future. Something evil this way comes…
Guardian on September 11, 2007 at 1:12 PM
The unfortunate thing is that this is an important story at all. I look forward to the day when Muslim apostates are as unremarkable as lapsed catholics or unobservant jews. I’m not saying people moving away from religion is good or bad, I’m saying the freedom to do so is vital. Further, it says an awful lot about the “ism” itself that it cannot stand up to competition of other “isms” or even ridicule such as cartoons and that adherence must be enforced on pain of death.
trubble on September 11, 2007 at 1:15 PM
I’m a Christian and I will be praying for this young man and all his confreres, not to convert but to keep them safe and courageous.
That, my friends, is courage.
Mommynator on September 11, 2007 at 1:17 PM
There is no reason in Democratic countries that Muslims can’t have their mosque, keep the faith and lose the culture of insanity. Islam is way overdue for some enlightenment.
Hening on September 11, 2007 at 1:25 PM
A simple truth that can be ‘discovered’ in any decent bookstore for $6.95, yet most Americans remain ignorant.
RedWinged Blackbird on September 11, 2007 at 1:33 PM
Good luck to this brave man. It’s sad that he has to do interviews from a secret location.
Congrats on the new blog.
BadgerHawk on September 11, 2007 at 1:34 PM
Islamic Reformation NOW!!
tickleddragon on September 11, 2007 at 1:36 PM
If more of this happens, where more Muslims become former Muslims, and this happened on a large scale, what would the reaction be from the same zealots who wish death upon the few who do so now? If one man must be hiding because he has renounced his religion, what then, are we to think will be the consequence for an entire country that does the same?
War?
Weebork on September 11, 2007 at 1:38 PM
Interesting.
Ehsan Jami has rejected what he sees as a violent and hypocritical streak in his religion. Sounds exactly like what Christopher Hitchens did with Christianity…
So when will Jon Stewart and Steven Colbert have multiple, ass-kissy, softball-throwing interviews with Ehsan Jami on their shows to show high school/college kids how wicked awesome it is go on worldwide TV and dump on a religion?
ScottMcC on September 11, 2007 at 1:53 PM
Jami has indicated he may switch parties.
aengus on September 11, 2007 at 1:57 PM
Be careful what you wish for. Religious reformations aren’t about modernization or moderation, they’re about getting back to a faith’s original teachings. Martin Luther wasn’t interested in modernizing the Roman church, for instance: He read the New Testament for himself and wanted to get the church back to what the book actually says. Subsequent “reformations” have always been attempts to get a faith back on track with its original thoughts and teachings.
Seen from that point of view, then, we’re in the midst of an Islamic Reformation right now. The jihad is it.
Bryan on September 11, 2007 at 1:57 PM
Bryan-
I am not a religious expert, so correct me if I am wrong, but from what I recall about Martin Luther, he went around distributing copies of the Bible to everyone telling them to read the Bible and decide for themselves what its meaning is so as not to be totally dependant on Vatican interpretations. This was a way of going against the church leaders of the day whom Luther felt did deviate from Biblical teachings. Hence the term Protestant.
The False Dervish on September 11, 2007 at 2:05 PM
This is what the media should be broadcasting as far and as wide as possible to let others who feel the same way know that there is hope and others who feel as they do.
Will it happen? Nah … makes too much sense. Plus, wouldn’t want to offend the Saudi’s.
darwin on September 11, 2007 at 2:27 PM
You’re exactly right, Bryan. Well said.
There are many peaceful Muslims out there, but there is nothing peaceful about Islam.
2Brave2Bscared on September 11, 2007 at 2:43 PM
Wow…! They do exist! And how predictable are the reactions from the rest of the Islamic community.? I wish this man all the luck in the world, what he’s doing will hopefully get much attention and highlight the dark-age brutishness of the Islamic religion.
4shoes on September 11, 2007 at 2:47 PM
He was part of the same “liberal” party as Ayaan Hirsi Ali before she left & was elected to Parliament, so I’m not surprised at their lack of support.
Miss_Anthrope on September 11, 2007 at 2:47 PM
I don’t expect his government or his political party to support him. Will his neighbors back him up, or will they fold like with Hirsi Ali?
forest on September 11, 2007 at 2:51 PM
The history of Islam has been one of conquest and domination, interrupted by the demise of the Ottoman caliphate in the 1920’s. When viewed in that context, the ‘radical’ Muslims are the ones who live in peace among infidels.
RedWinged Blackbird on September 11, 2007 at 3:20 PM
They’re gonna lop his head off just for wearing that sweater.
Alden Pyle on September 11, 2007 at 3:59 PM
Apostate Muslims begin fight for religious freedom from Islam
The best and greatest of luck to them. They are going to need both in abundance.
MB4 on September 11, 2007 at 4:44 PM
” In 2005 92,000 immigrants arrived whereas 121,000 Dutch citizens left the country.”
JiangxiDad on September 11, 2007 at 4:50 PM
Good luck Mr. Jami, God bless you … uh, the REAL god that is. Not that desert moon god.
I bet this guy moves to the U.S. pretty soon, just like Ayaan did.
Tony737 on September 11, 2007 at 5:00 PM
I’m sick of these radical Islamists. They can go screw themselves and let everyone else live their lives and be left alone.
As messed up as these ideots are, I just don’t see them taking over the world. They lack the brains for that based on how easily they allow themselves to be brainwashed.
They can all eat $h*t and die.
saiga on September 11, 2007 at 5:07 PM
Hat’s off to this exceedingly brave guy. I hope he remains alive and uninjured for a long time to come – he could make a real difference.
RD on September 11, 2007 at 7:58 PM
Don’t underestimate how many people will allow themselves to be brainwashed and I’ve heard that a lot of German Jews said the same thing about the NAZI party in the 1930’s. Well they didn’t take over the world but over 100 million people died to keep them from it. Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it.
Buzzy on September 11, 2007 at 8:01 PM
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