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Video: Code Pink removed from Petraeus hearing; Update: Video — Skelton calls protesters a**holes

posted at 2:23 pm on September 10, 2007 by Allahpundit
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First the MoveOn ad, now this. You stay classy, liberal America.

I want this to be true but I can’t find it in either the Fox or CNN recordings. FYI, Medea Benjamin interrupted Crocker immediately after this clip ended but went pretty quickly and quietly.

Update: St. Cindy was led out earlier.

Update: Star tipster RLW to the rescue. Dan Burton warns Skelton at around the halfway point that Code Pink’s going to act up and Skelton gets snotty with him. The hot mike moment comes at around 3:30 if you’re counting down.


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Do you ever get suspicious that maybe 95% of the liberal movement is actually made up of arch-conservative moles that infiltrated their nuttiness and now work daily to make them look terrible?

Seriously. It’d be amazing how much better liberals would appear if they ever started just shutting up. Or if they could unravel the vast conspiracy in their midst. Somebody get the Truthers on it.

Oh – and Code Pink? It’s gotta be 99.5% conservative double agents. Gotta be. With Pink Xerxes as the obvious devious mastermind.

The only alternative is that these people are serious, and they really think the stuff they do helps their cause …

And that’s just crazy. C’mon.

Professor Blather on September 10, 2007 at 2:28 PM

You stay classy, liberal America.

A few senior citizens dressed in pink only represents liberal America to deranged conservative bloggers.

Nonfactor on September 10, 2007 at 2:29 PM

Gotta love the look on the girl’s face in the back as they’re pulling here away.

Editor on September 10, 2007 at 2:30 PM

A few senior citizens dressed in pink only represents liberal America to deranged conservative bloggers.

How many members does MoveOn have again?

You guys do this all the time when some crazy right-winger acts up. Allllll the time. I remember we got a link from a lefty blogger a few weeks ago to a post in which I denounced Ted Nugent for his crazy Hillary/Obama machine gun fantasy; the guy who linked me wrote, “These are their icons, their heroes.”

You want to play that game? We’ll play.

Allahpundit on September 10, 2007 at 2:31 PM

You want to play that game? We’ll play.

Allahpundit on September 10, 2007 at 2:31 PM

“But they do it too!!!!”

Nonfactor on September 10, 2007 at 2:33 PM

How do they KNOW Petraeus has lied if they haven’t heard what he has to say?

Nothing like ignoring the facts because your mind is made up.

Mommynator on September 10, 2007 at 2:34 PM

Too ugly to objectify

The Race Card on September 10, 2007 at 2:34 PM

i was watching fox news when this happened and i didn’t hear the remarks by Skelton, but its entirely possible i missed that part, was walking in and out of the room working.
I love it when code pink shows up and the Dems are reminded that these circus freaks are their constituency

Keli on September 10, 2007 at 2:34 PM

They should have used a stun gun on the lady, then drag her out the door.

hinduconservative on September 10, 2007 at 2:35 PM

Exactly just how many times do you have to be arrested in DC before you have to serve real jail time?

When does REPEAT OFFENDER kick in?

1sttofight on September 10, 2007 at 2:36 PM

Those idiot loonies should have been thrown out onto the street. That scum isn’t fit to be in the same building with General Patraeus.

rplat on September 10, 2007 at 2:36 PM

A few senior citizens dressed in pink only represents liberal America to deranged conservative bloggers.

Denial.

2Brave2Bscared on September 10, 2007 at 2:36 PM

Smearing a general in the field. Disrupting testimony called for and chaired by their own party. And the bin Laden tape. What a sweet trifecta!

Soon the lunatic fringe of the lunatic left will completely snap. What’s next? Mass conversions reversions to Islam? Calls for direct action? Maybe some self-immolations?

At this rate, St Cindy may have a chance against Nancy next year. That would completely rock! I can’t think of anything tastier. She’s the gift that keeps on giving.

Thomas the Wraith on September 10, 2007 at 2:37 PM

Right, it’s like the Kos link where he said Reagan was worse than Bin Laden. Becasue nobody reads Kos, It’s just a puppet site with no readership.

Kos, Move-on, Code Pink… these aren’t big liberal groups… you need to find the focus.

You need to find the “real” left… Because the popular, vocal, high membership, well-known Liberal groups don’t count or even represent Liberals.

Since their representatives, their groups, their organizations, and their blogs don’t properly represent Liberals… I wonder who does.

Rove, you magnificent bastard, you’re representing liberals, aren’t you?

gekkobear on September 10, 2007 at 2:38 PM

Coda for Pinkos.

profitsbeard on September 10, 2007 at 2:38 PM

Denial.

2Brave2Bscared on September 10, 2007 at 2:36 PM

The only denial going on here is on the part of the conservatives who want to pretend like a majority of the country doesn’t want to get out of Iraq within the year.

Nonfactor on September 10, 2007 at 2:38 PM

There was Medea, videophoning the removal for their upcoming police brutality suit, which should be filed by oh, say, end-of-business today?

eeyore on September 10, 2007 at 2:40 PM

The only denial going on here is on the part of the conservatives who want to pretend like a majority of the country doesn’t want to get out of Iraq within the year.
Nonfactor on September 10, 2007 at 2:38 PM

Divert! Divert! Divert!

A-OO-GA! A-OO-GA!

Slublog on September 10, 2007 at 2:42 PM

I laughed my hiney off.
Pinkos

Kini on September 10, 2007 at 2:42 PM

“But they do it too!!!!”

Yeah, tit for tat. According to game theory, one of the most effective strategies there is.

I’ll be thinking of that tonight when I watch Keith “Fox News is worse than the Klan” Olbermann whining about how mean conservatives are to him.

Allahpundit on September 10, 2007 at 2:42 PM

conservatives…want to pretend like a majority of the country doesn’t want to get out of Iraq within the year.
Nonfactor on September 10, 2007 at 2:38 PM

And even if it were so (which I don’t stipulate), half of those who want us out are Truthers, so I’m not sure you’re making a particularly solid argument.

eeyore on September 10, 2007 at 2:44 PM

Nonfactor-

Most people would like to have the global Islamic Jihad against Western Civilization to end in a year, too.

Most people would like” and $4.99 will get you a mocha-choka latte supremo retro frappachino at Starbux.

It’s what the enemy wants, too, which matters.

profitsbeard on September 10, 2007 at 2:44 PM

Yeah, tit for tat. According to game theory, one of the most effective strategies there is.

Allahpundit on September 10, 2007 at 2:42 PM

So you admit that you’re using a fallacy in assigning a selective few people to represent “liberal America,” but you’re insisting it’s okay because others use the same fallacy?

Nonfactor on September 10, 2007 at 2:45 PM

Get to the Dodd statement today

Dodd: Dad’s Nuremberg notes apply today By RON FOURNIER, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON – As a prosecutor at Nuremberg, Thomas Dodd charged the Nazis with “the apprehension of victims and their confinement without trial, often without charges, generally with no indication of their detention.”

His son, Sen. Chris Dodd, wonders today whether he did enough to stop the United States from violating that same rule of law in the war on terror.

William Amos on September 10, 2007 at 2:45 PM

The only denial going on here is on the part of the conservatives who want to pretend like a majority of the country doesn’t want to get out of Iraq within the year.

Nonfactor on September 10, 2007 at 2:38 PM

Yeah kinda like activist Judges legislating from the bench.

sonnyspats1 on September 10, 2007 at 2:46 PM

eeyore on September 10, 2007 at 2:44 PM

profitsbeard on September 10, 2007 at 2:44 PM

Why do you guys keep feeding the troll?

BacaDog on September 10, 2007 at 2:48 PM

I’ll be thinking of that tonight when I watch Keith “Fox News is worse than the Klan” Olbermann whining about how mean conservatives are to him.

Allahpundit on September 10, 2007 at 2:42 PM

You really watch that sewage? I salute you for the suffering you endure for the cause. If someone has to sit through that I’m glad it’s you and not me. Yuck. I can taste the vomit in my throat just thinking about it. To be honest I don’t even watch the full clips you guys post.

That why your a pro, AP.

Thomas the Wraith on September 10, 2007 at 2:51 PM

Nonfactor on September 10, 2007 at 2:45 PM

You did it first, assclown.

Bad Candy on September 10, 2007 at 2:51 PM

You did it first, assclown.

Bad Candy on September 10, 2007 at 2:51 PM

The caliber of debate here on HotAir has obviously been escalated to “Bad Candy” level.

Nonfactor on September 10, 2007 at 2:53 PM

Why do you guys keep feeding the troll?
BacaDog on September 10, 2007 at 2:48 PM

Barn-sized targets.
Excruciatingly weak arguments.
So…Hard…To…Resist…

eeyore on September 10, 2007 at 2:54 PM

Anyone else notice that Nonfactor has the debating skills of a 12 year old?

1sttofight on September 10, 2007 at 2:54 PM

I don’t care about these Code Pink people – they’re all off their rockers.

Here are the things that matter:
1. “Osama” appears, talking the same points as Olbermann and other liberals.
2. Petraeus shows up on Capitol Hill and says, things aren’t great, but they are improving in Iraq.
3. 6 years since 9/11 attacks – before the 10th anniversary, there’ll be another attack (think Mohammed vs. those two cities I can’t remember the names of in the Koran).
4. Israel does test flights over Syria, testing their defense systems. Iran has the same defense system. Osirak reactor re-dux or just Israel playing games?
5. Unconfirmed story of Israelis kidnapping a terrorist leader.
6. Iran opening yet more nuclear stuff up.
7. Lebanon wiping out one set of Hezb’allah terrorists after another.

But Cindy Sheehan and her friends would like to tell us that once the US leaves Iraq, everything over there will get all peaceful and the like. I suppose, if unprovoked attacks, unauthorized nuclear testing, and terrorists threatening massacres is peaceful, then yeah, I guess they’re right.

mjk on September 10, 2007 at 2:55 PM

The only denial going on here is on the part of the conservatives who want to pretend like a majority of the country doesn’t want to get out of Iraq within the year.

Nonfactor on September 10, 2007 at 2:38 PM

Who WOULDN’T want the war to be over and the troops to be home within the year?? But what we want and what the reality of the situation demands are often in conflict. Thats why the majority of Americans DID NOT WANT an immediate troop withdrawal, they recognized that

Keli on September 10, 2007 at 2:55 PM

Anyone else notice that Nonfactor has the debating skills of a 12 year old?

1sttofight on September 10, 2007 at 2:54 PM

So you’re reply is indicative of what, a thirty year old?

Nonfactor on September 10, 2007 at 2:55 PM

The only denial going on here is on the part of the conservatives who want to pretend like a majority of the country doesn’t want to get out of Iraq within the year.

What, the majority of the country has never been wrong about something?

A majority of the country opposes gay marriage. And they’re wrong.

Don’t give us that “majority rules” crap.

Enrique on September 10, 2007 at 2:56 PM

So, when the general in command of our efforts in Iraq comes to give his public testimony, the “Code Pink” dissenters make their feelings known by dressing up like a $0.47 bass plug and screaming like the overweight, sexually frustrated housewives they apparently are.

Somebody hit them repeatedly with a hardback history book, and videotape it so I can watch.

thejackal on September 10, 2007 at 2:56 PM

P.S. I hope Israel does do an Osirak reactor re-dux on Iran. It would definitely make the neighbours nervous and that’s really Israel’s point.

mjk on September 10, 2007 at 2:56 PM

to Nonfactor…
you think a majority of the country wants us to abandon Iraq.
I think the bigger picture here is….the majority of the country is not a General in the Army that is Now in the thick of things. The Majority of the country respects Gen.Patraeus and does NOT want to hear from the likes of you, code pinkos, and dems in congress who have no idea what they speak of.

bridgetown on September 10, 2007 at 2:57 PM

The caliber of debate here on HotAir has obviously been escalated to “Bad Candy” level.

Nonfactor on September 10, 2007 at 2:53 PM

I really thought that lefty code pinko made some great arguments as she was in the process of getting tossed. How about you nonfactor? Did you agree with her and Osama?

Zetterson on September 10, 2007 at 2:57 PM

Keli on September 10, 2007 at 2:55 PM

Here

Nonfactor on September 10, 2007 at 2:57 PM

Does security have to wait until they disrupt a hearing before removing them? Can they be refused entry for suspicion of disruption, if there is such a thing?

d1carter on September 10, 2007 at 2:57 PM

The caliber of debate here on HotAir has obviously been escalated to “Bad Candy” level.

Nonfactor on September 10, 2007 at 2:53 PM

Red herring.

Bad Candy on September 10, 2007 at 2:58 PM

BacaDog-

Why do you guys keep feeding the troll?

Hope Springs, Eternal is my address.

Plus, it only took 20-30 seconds to type, during which time I am also listening to Stevie Ray Vaughan’s “Riviera Paradise“, working on a project, and sipping frsh iced tea.

profitsbeard on September 10, 2007 at 2:58 PM

Thanks, Nonfactor for proving my point.

Semper Fi

1sttofight on September 10, 2007 at 2:59 PM

What, the majority of the country has never been wrong about something?

A majority of the country opposes gay marriage. And they’re wrong.

Don’t give us that “majority rules” crap.

Enrique on September 10, 2007 at 2:56 PM

In the 1930’s, the majority of the world AGREED with Nazi Germany about the Jews (just ask my friends’ grandparents). And, yeah. Majorities are wrong a lot.

Aren’t Liberals always talking about thinking for yourself? Or does that only apply when the thinking for yourself agrees with what they think? ‘Cause I’m a Zionist (obvy) and I can guarantee my liberal friends think that’s atrocious.

mjk on September 10, 2007 at 2:59 PM

Red herring.

Bad Candy on September 10, 2007 at 2:58 PM

It was a footnote, not part of the debate. If you reread my post you’ll realize I wasn’t talking to you.

Nonfactor on September 10, 2007 at 2:59 PM

Nonfactor,

Your motherf*cking anti-war buddies defaced the Vietnam Memorial over the weekend. [See HA's headlines, select "all headlines"]

It’s probably a good time for you to shut the f*ck up and exit stage left.

georgej on September 10, 2007 at 3:01 PM

It was a footnote, not part of the debate. If you reread my post you’ll realize I wasn’t talking to you.

Nonfactor on September 10, 2007 at 2:59 PM

Red herring. I’m just falling back on your default position when you gat backed into a corner.

Bad Candy on September 10, 2007 at 3:01 PM

profitsbeard….beautiful song…makes me want to break out the CD. Thanks for that. Sorry all…for being OT

bridgetown on September 10, 2007 at 3:03 PM

Wow, I haven’t seen a screaming temper tantrum like that lady had since my 2 year old nephew came to visit.

“I have a voice too!!! WAAAHHH! I can speak out!!! WAAAHHH!!!”

If our tax dollars weren’t being squandered to deal with these children it would be a funny episode.

NTWR on September 10, 2007 at 3:05 PM

This kind of behavior is disgusting, and the people who are doing it are obviously vicious partisan ideologues who should be both despised and pitied. Even if you ignore their lack of tact, their sentiments are still totally reprehensible, and shared with a significant portion of the liberal voting base.

Savage on September 10, 2007 at 3:05 PM

Nonfactor on September 10, 2007 at 2:57 PM

April 2007, huh?

Figures.

How about a more recent poll that shows the numbers trending slightly away from immediate withdrawal. Or this one, in which confidence in the surge is growing?

Slublog on September 10, 2007 at 3:06 PM

BTW, Duncan Hunter dissecting their strategy was enlightening. I like that guy more and more.

NTWR on September 10, 2007 at 3:07 PM

mjk on September 10, 2007 at 2:59 PM

Where did I say the majority was always right? The topic was “liberal America” and how certain people think a select group of people represent “liberal America.” I pointed out that being against the war or in favor if withdrawing troops wasn’t a minority position, but you read blogs like this and you’d think it was. We even had someone claim that the majority of the country wasn’t in favor of an immediate withdrawal; if I wasn’t here to post the link I think you guys would’ve believed it.

Nonfactor on September 10, 2007 at 3:07 PM

Does security have to wait until they disrupt a hearing before removing them? Can they be refused entry for suspicion of disruption, if there is such a thing?

Asks d1carter on September 10, 2007 at 2:57 PM

Ans: Yes.

Congress (and the committee chairs) can set whatever rules they want and deny access to anybody they choose. The fact that they allow known and obvious members of code-pink to attend hearings also proves that they they know (and tacitly approve) of the demonstrations. I think that this was evident in this hearing as well.

Shame on the Democrats. Shame on liberals.

georgej on September 10, 2007 at 3:07 PM

Or this one, in which the “immediate withdrawal” number barely achieves a majority?

Slublog on September 10, 2007 at 3:08 PM

georgej on September 10, 2007 at 3:01 PM

I can’t recall ever disagreeing with anything you post.

JiangxiDad on September 10, 2007 at 3:08 PM

Here

Nonfactor on September 10, 2007 at 2:57 PM

April 2007?!?!?!? That poll is irrelevent since its way before the surge. Have any other “evidence”?

Andy in Agoura Hills on September 10, 2007 at 3:08 PM

Slublog on September 10, 2007 at 3:06 PM

What?

Nonfactor on September 10, 2007 at 3:09 PM

if I wasn’t here to post the link I think you guys would’ve believed it

Except the poll you cited said it was nearly 60 percent. Now it’s barely 50. The thing about polls is – it’s best to use the most recent number, not the one that bolsters whatever argument you’re trying to make at the moment.

Slublog on September 10, 2007 at 3:09 PM

Where did I say the majority was always right? The topic was “liberal America” and how certain people think a select group of people represent “liberal America.” I pointed out that being against the war or in favor if withdrawing troops wasn’t a minority position, but you read blogs like this and you’d think it was. We even had someone claim that the majority of the country wasn’t in favor of an immediate withdrawal; if I wasn’t here to post the link I think you guys would’ve believed it.

Nonfactor on September 10, 2007 at 3:07 PM

Isnt the purpose of a debate is to let both sides talk ? Or are you just in a big hurry to say “I won” before the debate even began ?

William Amos on September 10, 2007 at 3:09 PM

We even had someone claim that the majority of the country wasn’t in favor of an immediate withdrawal; if I wasn’t here to post the link I think you guys would’ve believed it.

Nonfactor on September 10, 2007 at 3:07 PM

Hmmm…

Slublog on September 10, 2007 at 3:06 PM

FAIL

Bad Candy on September 10, 2007 at 3:09 PM

Nonfactor on September 10, 2007 at 3:09 PM

You used Rasmussen, I used Rasmussen. Now you’re jumping to other polls with different methodologies?

Your poll-fu is weak.

Slublog on September 10, 2007 at 3:10 PM

Slubbo totally pwn3d your ass, Nonfactor.

Bad Candy on September 10, 2007 at 3:10 PM

Love it! Rep. Skelton says they really piss him off and they’re a$$holes. Then Rep. Duncan Hunter explains to him their strategy, “they have about 10 out there. They’ll sacrifice about one every 10 minutes. I say that if they start up we get ready of the whole lot of them…” That’s after Skelton got spunky with Rep. Burton. Republicans have to explain strategy with Dems.

Exit Question: If you can’t see the Rep. sitting right in front of you, are you competent to be Chairing this thing?

Sultry Beauty on September 10, 2007 at 3:11 PM

It was a footnote, not part of the debate. If you reread my post you’ll realize I wasn’t talking to you.

Nonfactor on September 10, 2007 at 2:59 PM

Nonfactor, it is common practice for commenters to have opinions about a conversation taking place in the comments section. Did you not know that? It is especially common when that conversation is taking place between Allah and a lefty. And Nonfactor, myself, and I’m sure many other readers noticed how you ducked Allah’s first question. I’ll repeat, how many members does MoveOn have?

Zetterson on September 10, 2007 at 3:11 PM

Everyone knows I linked that NYT poll just this morning, right? It’s in the Blog column as we speak.

Allahpundit on September 10, 2007 at 3:11 PM

Slubbo totally pwn3d your ass, Nonfactor.

Bad Candy on September 10, 2007 at 3:10 PM

If by pwn3d you mean “corroborated my statement that a majority of the country was in favor of withdrawal,” yes, he totally ‘pwn3d’ my ass.

Nonfactor on September 10, 2007 at 3:12 PM

“rid” not “ready”. sorry…

Sultry Beauty on September 10, 2007 at 3:14 PM

Everyone knows I linked that NYT poll just this morning, right? It’s in the Blog column as we speak.

Yup. And the overall message of the poll is not exactly good news for the ‘withdraw now’ coalition:

Americans trust military commanders far more than the Bush administration or Congress to bring the war in Iraq to a successful end, and while most favor a withdrawal of American troops beginning next year, they suggested they were open to doing so at a measured pace, according to the latest New York Times/CBS News Poll.

The debate is not “leave now” or “stay forever.” It’s “leave now” or “leave according to a process.” The common denominator, regardless of ideology, is that everyone wants out of Iraq eventually – we simply disagree on a timetable.

Slublog on September 10, 2007 at 3:14 PM

Again is the whole point of today is that the miitary be allowed to give its opinon on Iraq and let the American people deceide NOW if it wants to stay or leave ?

So past polls are meaningless in this context. Maybe tomorrow the American people will want to stay

William Amos on September 10, 2007 at 3:14 PM

Here

Nonfactor on September 10, 2007 at 2:57 PM

Survey of 800 Likely Voters
April 23-24, 2007

800 Likely Voters surveyed. From a population of 302,835,679. Three-Hundred-Three-Million people, or “likely voters”, with an opinion, and you use a survey of eight-hundred people to try to justify some inane argument.

Nonfactor, indeed.

Liberals are overwhelmingly much loonier than any other part of the political party spectrum. It’s proven continuously and there’s no escaping that no matter the vain attempts.

SilverStar830 on September 10, 2007 at 3:14 PM

If by pwn3d you mean “corroborated my statement that a majority of the country was in favor of withdrawal,” yes, he totally ‘pwn3d’ my ass.
Nonfactor on September 10, 2007 at 3:12 PM

A diminishing minority, according to the first (older) poll you cited. And as I said above, the poll you just cited is likely not all that heartwarming for ‘leave now’ liberals.

Slublog on September 10, 2007 at 3:15 PM

I’ll repeat, how many members does MoveOn have?

Zetterson on September 10, 2007 at 3:11 PM

That wasn’t rhetorical? Even if it wasn’t I’m sure he could go to the site and look it up for himself. And Bad Candy admitted the only reason he was saying the words “red herring” was because he was trying to be witty, not because he was contributing the the conversation.

Nonfactor on September 10, 2007 at 3:15 PM

Or this one, in which the “immediate withdrawal” number barely achieves a majority?

Slublog on September 10, 2007 at 3:08 PM

Or this one in which the questions are suspect.

Andy in Agoura Hills on September 10, 2007 at 3:15 PM

So you admit that you’re using a fallacy in assigning a selective few people to represent “liberal America,” but you’re insisting it’s okay because others use the same fallacy?

Nonfactor on September 10, 2007 at 2:45 PM

So what you’re saying is, the sum of Daily Kos, Democratic Underground, Huffpoo, Code Pink, ANSWER, the ACLU, Breasts not Bombs, La Raza, AZTLAN, the Anti-Zionists, Homosexual Rights Campaign, the Sheehanites, the Pro-Palestinians, and the City Council of San Fransisco and Berkely make up only “a selective few people to represent liberal America.”

Wow, what would it take to convince you Code Pinko insanity is mainstream.

BKennedy on September 10, 2007 at 3:16 PM

800 Likely Voters surveyed.

SilverStar830 on September 10, 2007 at 3:14 PM

Welcome to the world of statistics.

Nonfactor on September 10, 2007 at 3:16 PM

They aren’t just assholes Congressman Skelton, they are your party’s base. You must be soooo proud.

Drew on September 10, 2007 at 3:17 PM

Mic does not work, statements not passed out. This is fascicle. No damned wonder nothing in DC work, they can’t even get a meeting set up correctly.

Wade on September 10, 2007 at 3:17 PM

Are those men in dresses?

So it’s OK for men dressed like women to attend hearings on things like this?

Hening on September 10, 2007 at 3:18 PM

So what you’re saying is… …make up only “a selective few people to represent liberal America.”

This topic isn’t about any of those organizations. It’s about labeling a few senior citizens in pink as representatives of “liberal America.” AP admitted it was a fallacy, he admitted he only said it because other people have said the same thing in regards to labeling estranged conservatives as representatives of conservative America. You’re arguing a lost cause.

Nonfactor on September 10, 2007 at 3:19 PM

Drew on September 10, 2007 at 3:17 PM

Repetitive if nothing else, so I guess now is the best time to say this before anyone else repeats this statement word for word: Cindy Sheehan stated she would no longer support the Democratic Party. But I guess it is convenient for the conservatives to keep pretending like she does.

Nonfactor on September 10, 2007 at 3:21 PM

And Bad Candy admitted the only reason he was saying the words “red herring” was because he was trying to be witty, not because he was contributing the the conversation.

Nonfactor on September 10, 2007 at 3:15 PM

FTFY

Bad Candy on September 10, 2007 at 3:22 PM

georgej on September 10, 2007 at 3:07 PM

I’m curious about this. I was under the impression that they in fact couldn’t restrict who was in their unless they broke the rules. Not disagreeing with you, but I didn’t see the rules anywhere.

SouthernDem on September 10, 2007 at 3:23 PM

This is fascicle.

Wade on September 10, 2007 at 3:17 PM

Frost Nazis?

/just messin’ with you

Bad Candy on September 10, 2007 at 3:23 PM

I don’t think you need to examine if code pink is representative of the way liberal left, just look at the leadership. It’s no secret that the Dem leadership and a majority of their party has tied their political fate to losing this war.

They have said in the last week exactly what code pink said today. We do not believe Petreaus. He is a liar for GB. The sunday shows alone would give you that, not to mention all of the appearances and interviews.

This is not two or three people, this is a cross section of far left groups and elected Dem leadership.

sunny on September 10, 2007 at 3:24 PM

*there*

SouthernDem on September 10, 2007 at 3:25 PM

I don’t know if this poll was posted, but its also not good news for the “withdraw immediately cowards”.

Andy in Agoura Hills on September 10, 2007 at 3:25 PM

Funny: Wexler is calling the General a liar right now on Fox. But he represents no one, and certainly not the Dem party.

sunny on September 10, 2007 at 3:27 PM

Wow. Nonfactor was spanked, and spanked hard.

Andy in Agoura Hills on September 10, 2007 at 3:27 PM

This topic isn’t about any of those organizations. It’s about labeling a few senior citizens in pink as representatives of “liberal America.” AP admitted it was a fallacy, he admitted he only said it because other people have said the same thing in regards to labeling estranged conservatives as representatives of conservative America. You’re arguing a lost cause.

Nonfactor on September 10, 2007 at 3:19 PM

So, labeling Code Pink a mainstream liberal organization is folly because even though Code Pink describes itself as representing the majority of Americans, it really isn’t representative at all?

I fail to see what isn’t mainstream about Code Pink. They mingle with the Sheehanites, there are probably a few dual members in Breasts not Bombs. Really, Code Pinko is just another cog in the mainstream liberal machine.

You can only call them extremists for so long until you realize they are really just another liberal organization, inseperable from the other liberal organizations. Calling them extremists implies that there are moderates. There are no moderate liberal protesters because they are all equally extreme. Therefore, since there are no “moderate” liberal protesting groups to compare them to, these liberal groups are all in fact moderate, mainstream representations of liberal causes.

BKennedy on September 10, 2007 at 3:28 PM

Nonfactor is one of many on the left that “support the troops” by supporting his code-pink allies in their attempts to silence Gen. Petraeus. Yes, that is the face of LIBERAL America, not a bunch of old, retreaded, hippies and flowergirls.

No doubt, LIBERAL America secretly approves of the defacing of the Vietnam Memorial, too.

It looks lie today is the day LIBERAL America starts spitting on the troops and calling them babykillers. Moveon, CodePink began with Gen. Petraeus today, and it won’t take much longer before they start attacking the rest of the military.

Here’s Nonfactor defending codepink (and by extension, the people who defaced The Wall).

And judging from his performance here, Nonfactor proves that he can “change hands and gain a stroke.”

georgej on September 10, 2007 at 3:28 PM

So it’s OK for men dressed like women to attend hearings on things like this?

Hening on September 10, 2007 at 3:18 PM

You’re mean. Can you imagine how those pantyhose felt in 90 degree heat? Woof!

JiangxiDad on September 10, 2007 at 3:29 PM

I fail to see what isn’t mainstream about Code Pink.

BKennedy on September 10, 2007 at 3:28 PM

Well there’s your problem.

Nonfactor on September 10, 2007 at 3:29 PM

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