Open thread: Petraeus mania; Update: Petraeus expects drawdown to pre-surge troop levels by next summer; Update: Iran building an Iraqi Hezbollah, says Petraeus, as moonbats screech; Update: Transcripts and slides added
posted at 12:22 pm on September 10, 2007 by Allahpundit
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Starting at 12:30, it’s the mother of all anticlimaxes. We know already what he’s going to recommend — stay the course until next year, with withdrawal of one token brigade as early as December and then gradual drawdown of the remaining surge brigades next year as security circumstances allow. The GOP questioners will shower him with praise, the Democrats will make a point of thanking him for his service and leadership before calling him a liar, and then they’ll wrangle over statistics for the next few hours with occasional moments of political theater bubbling up sporadically. I’ll do my best to clip all of those for you. If you’re watching, sound off below, and if you see something worth posting, send us an e-mail at the tips address.
I wish I had time to digest the following links for you but there’s simply too much, so here you go — reading skimming material as you watch. The top news this morning is the brutal ABC poll of Iraqis, which they conveniently held until this morning for added drama. The BBC’s version is easier to read but it’s worth scrolling through the first few pages at least of the ABC data. Bush’s ultimate way out here may be to ask Maliki to hold a popular referendum on the U.S. troop presence in Iraq; if, as expected, the people vote to send us home, he gets to withdraw with at least some superficial realization of his goal of Arab democracy. If they want their fight without a referee, so be it.
The ABC poll isn’t the only new one out today. Gallup has data too showing slight but steady upward shifts in perception over the last few months (after three months of downward shifts) that the surge is making things better but also increasing support for setting a timetable, which, ironically, the Democrats seem to have backed down on. 61% say they’re no more confident now than they were before the surge that we’re going to accomplish our goals. It’s worth flagging these numbers now because we’re bound to get another round of polls next week that’ll tell us how persuasive Petraeus is. Prediction: a slight bounce in war support but not much.
McClatchy has a different set of numbers measuring not popular opinion but security progress in Iraq. There is some improvement but it seems to be marginal everywhere except Anbar, which is expected to be the centerpiece of Petraeus’s presentation. The LA Times has a story out now about the possibility of using Anbar as a model for the rest of the country. Officers there think it’s a unique situation, particularly in its sectarian homogeneity vis-a-vis Baghdad and Diyala, but it’s being applied in other areas to greater and lesser extents. A sergeant stationed in the Dora neighborhood of Baghdad sums it up for the Wash Times: “If [the insurgents] really, really wanted it really bad, they could take it back in a day. They could occupy it within hours, but it would take weeks to regain some of the terrain we have denied them.”
Finally, a word of recognition for the liberals who spoke up for Petraeus today in the face of MoveOn’s disgusting, predictably juvenile “Petraeus/Betray Us” knock: Joe Lieberman, who wants the Democrats to denounce it and who co-authored an op-ed today with McCain urging Americans to give Petraeus a fair shake, and Michael O’Hanlon, who, after being savaged by the left for his own op-ed in the Times a few months ago reporting progress from the surge, sticks a finger in their eye today in NRO.
And meanwhile, in Iraq, the maneuvering of the various players continues. Stand by for updates.
Update: Mission accomplished, ABC — Skelton mentions the poll of Iraqis in his opening remarks after a laundry list of the missing WMDs, Bush’s speech on the USS Abraham Lincoln. He’s making the case now of how the mission has essentially failed but being careful to say if only we had Petraeus in charge three years ago we might not be where we are. Now he’s unloading on the Iraqis.
Update: Lantos calls the war a “fiasco” and tells Petraeus that no one can believe anything he says, not because of Petraeus’s credibility but because of Bush’s. “Strategically the escalation has failed,” he says, and of any progress to be reported he declares, “I don’t buy it.” Why attend the hearing then, Lantos? Now, five minutes later, he says the gradual drawdown plan is “nowhere near enough” and that Iraqis need to know the “free ride is over.”
Update: Duncan Hunter’s ripping on the Petraeus critics and mentions Lantos by name for impugning his testimony as the product of political operatives. He does a good job responding to Lantos’s point that Anbar is only 5% of the population, noting that it used to comprise 50% of the attacks. Now he’s analogizing the left’s opposition to the Iraq war with their opposition to the cold war. Heh. Hunter asks Skelton to stipulate that Petraeus’s and Crocker’s integrity should be stipulated to by the panel — and Skelton complies.
Update: Reid heads for the lifeboats:
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid expressed frustration Monday with a new print ad attacking Gen. David Petraeus that is being paid for by a liberal advocacy organization on the same day the general is providing testimony before Congress on the situation in Iraq.
When asked early this morning if this was the right message for his party to send, the Nevada Democrat curtly answered “No.”
In a separate conversation, a senior Democratic leadership aide called the ad an “unnecessary distraction” and said Democrats are prepared to focus on “Petraeus executing a mismanaged mission.”
Update: Ros-Lehtinen is mentioning the MoveOn ad, too. What a PR stain for the Democrats. Or is it? She mentions this passage in Politico from Friday. Good cop/bad cop:
[Anti-war] groups have no problem going after Petraeus, as evidenced by heavy criticism of him by Americans Against Escalation in Iraq (“It is clear that Americans cannot trust any assessments that come out of this White House, or Gen. Petraeus when it comes to the war in Iraq”) and the Center for American Progress, among others. But it is a tactic that Democratic lawmakers themselves want to avoid.
“No one wants to call [Petraeus] a liar on national TV,” noted one Democratic senator, who spoke on the condition on anonymity. “The expectation is that the outside groups will do this for us.”
She’s going on and on about jihad. Let’s get on with it.
Update: Petraeus was about to speak — and had a dead mike. Momentary pause.
Update: He’s back and says the surge is working, but not before emphasizing that he wrote his testimony himself, that it wasn’t vetted by anyone, etc. He mentions Anbar as the signature theater of progress and sees the trend spreading, and says now that he thinks will be able to draw down to pre-surge levels by next summer. We can achieve our objectives, he says, but it’ll be neither quick nor easy.
Update: He’s running through charts showing the drop in casualties, which is excellent but only gets us back to the levels as of March 2006 as far as I can tell. Still, it’s reassuring watching someone as obviously competent as Petraeus talking about progress in Iraq. Not a common occurrence the past four years with Bush as the front man.
Update: Petraeus cites the capture of Hezbollah bombmaker Ali Mussa Daqduq as evidence that Iran is trying to build a parallel organization in Iraq to challenge the seat. That ignites the first protest in the back of the room, which is indecipherable but doubtless has to do with neocons gunning for war with Tehran. The Independent wrote the seminal article about Sadrist/Hezbollah collusion last month. Read it now if you missed it before. Money quote:
Speaking in Tufa in Iraq, Muqtada al-Sadr, the head of the Mehdi Army, admitted to “formal links” with Hizbollah.
“We have formal links with Hizbollah, we do exchange ideas and discuss the situation facing Shiites in both countries,” he said. “It is natural that we would want to improve ourselves by learning from each other. We copy Hizbollah in the way they fight and their tactics, we teach each other and we are getting better through this.”
Mr Sadr said members of the Mehdi Army had travelled to Lebanon, and would continue to do so.
Update: He says it would be “premature” to talk about post-surge withdrawal recommendations given the fluidity of events on the ground. In particular, he’s emphasizing the extent of Iranian involvement in Iraq. That’s a surprise given the emphasis Bush has been placing on AQ’s presence as the casus belli.
Update: Petraeus’s testimony ends — and Code Pink starts screaming “no one believes you anymore!” They’re dragging them out of the room now. Medea Benjamin’s still there in the row behind; she’ll eventually stand up and get thrown out too. — And there she goes, screaming just as Crocker was about to speak.
Update: Crocker mentions Iran too as the cause of so much trouble in Iraq but I think the very opening of his remarks, about Iraqis being “traumatized” after decades of Saddam and now insurgency, is worth highlighting. Totten heard that from an Iraqi interpreter last month:
MJT: What is the most important thing about Iraq that the Americans don’t understand?
Hammer: Don’t just open the jail after 25 years. Let people out step by step. Iraqis need rehab. Give them instant direct freedom and they are going to go crazy. That’s what the U.S. did.
Update: The PDFs of Petraeus’s and Crocker’s statements are going around. Click to download Crocker’s testimony, Petraeus’s testimony, and the charts accompanying Petraeus’s presentation. I’m going to look for Iran references.
Update: The hearing’s over recessed. They’ll both be on Fox News tonight at 9 for an interview with Brit Hume and then before the Senate bright and early tomorrow. Stand by for the Iran excerpts from their testimony.
Update: More MoveOn fallout: Waffles tells Reid to make room for him in the lifeboat.
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So the President hasn’t even been able to edit it. So, think the Dems will further question it? After all, that would be calling Patraeus a liar.
amerpundit on September 10, 2007 at 1:31 PM
Bush should give Petraeus a medal just for having to sit through this circus.
CP on September 10, 2007 at 1:33 PM
Allah,
Not to be difficult, but whose side you on; The cut and run side or the “Exit strategy is victory” side?
You seem to thinks this thing is unwinnable.
The Opinionator on September 10, 2007 at 1:33 PM
Yes but they will deny calling him a liar
Mojack420 on September 10, 2007 at 1:33 PM
LOL Reid is going to enjoy the wrath of MoveON. LOL
What a COWARD. He plans with MoveOn the attacks against our Military and the President and NOW he bails
ordi on September 10, 2007 at 1:33 PM
He’s being interrupted? Skelton, can you shut up?
amerpundit on September 10, 2007 at 1:34 PM
I wonder, given the failed public school system in this country, how many folks realize that prior to the Constitution convention, states like NY and NJ were about to go to war with each other. It did take 11 years before the constitution was ratified. It has been over 200 years since we started and we are still trying to get this democracy thing right. Finally, will someone show me where in the US Constitution is the word “democracy” used?? It WAS NOT as a true democracy equals MOB RULE!
Claimsratt on September 10, 2007 at 1:36 PM
Wait … you mean that the sources Gen. P used were more accurate than those the NYT’s uses?
No way.
yo on September 10, 2007 at 1:38 PM
He just named Iran as part of the battle when he said Iranian-supported-insurgents. Hasn’t the phrase been “suspected Iranian Involvement” til now?
Guardian on September 10, 2007 at 1:39 PM
It’s right before the phrase separation between church and state
Mojack420 on September 10, 2007 at 1:39 PM
You know, it just doesn’t matter what Patraeus says – the dems will still attempt to crucify him and his message.
pullingmyhairout on September 10, 2007 at 1:40 PM
Only if the MSM reports it accurately, which they won’t. They might quote Lantos accurately, but I bet they won’t specify when he said it in relation to Petraeus’s actual report.
Plus, polls in the past couple of weeks show that the majority of people polled already decided they wouldn’t believe Petraeus’s report, too. So the Dems are just reinforcing the flawed thinking of the general population, who won’t see any reason to criticize the Dems for thinking in the same weak way they do.
aero on September 10, 2007 at 1:41 PM
Democrats = Surrender Monkeys. The term is catching on. Moveon has brought the cowards out of the closet and they may find out that they are not as powerful as their delusions lead them to believe.
volsense on September 10, 2007 at 1:41 PM
You just got to love the fact that 1000 people speak for the nation as a whole.
Claimsratt on September 10, 2007 at 1:43 PM
Yeah, heard that too. I don’t know why the Democrats want us to lose to IRAN just so they can win an election (so they think). It’s a crazy world we live in.
Ordinary1 on September 10, 2007 at 1:43 PM
Another thing I’ve noticed about the good General, look at all his medals!! I’ll bet they add about 20 pounds to his uniform. Given that, how in the world can these good-for-nothing senators know more about military strategy than him?
pullingmyhairout on September 10, 2007 at 1:43 PM
Iran Exposed!
yo on September 10, 2007 at 1:44 PM
Who here has ever been polled or knows some that has ever been polled?
Guardian on September 10, 2007 at 1:44 PM
more moonbats getting the boot .
Mojack420 on September 10, 2007 at 1:44 PM
Another protester? Are they on time release???
Ordinary1 on September 10, 2007 at 1:44 PM
The crazies act up!
Babs on September 10, 2007 at 1:44 PM
I watched all of ten seconds of todays Congress earning their money. Some fat noisebag (I’m assuming Democrat) stated that no Democratic Senator wanted to call Petraeus a liar on national television, but…
that’s when I shut the TV off again.
If you can’t handle the message, shoot the messenger. How very civilized of the Dems. You know, they are using OUR tax money to perpetuate an unauthorized War against our own Military. If Democrats could feel shame, they should be ashamed of themselves for that.
Doug on September 10, 2007 at 1:45 PM
Heh. They are tossing out the surrender monkeys.
Guardian on September 10, 2007 at 1:45 PM
Why didn’t Skelton kick the protestors out? Didn’t he say he would right before the General started to speak??? Did anyone catch what they said?
pullingmyhairout on September 10, 2007 at 1:45 PM
I predicted three interruptions before Petraeus started speaking. That’s two so far….
World B. Free on September 10, 2007 at 1:46 PM
I’m waiting for the General’s ‘Ollie North’ moment.
dbdiva on September 10, 2007 at 1:46 PM
pullingmyhairout on September 10, 2007 at 1:43 PM
Just look at the General’s left shoulder. There is a small black and gold tab with the letters “R A N G E R”. Enough said!
Claimsratt on September 10, 2007 at 1:47 PM
I think they said “liar liar pants on fire handing from a telephone wire.”
which is about right for their childish mentality
Mojack420 on September 10, 2007 at 1:47 PM
I’m waiting for “you want me on that wall. You need me on that wall..).
Guardian on September 10, 2007 at 1:48 PM
The Dems aren’t even listening, they are to busy planning their attack!
abinitioadinfinitum on September 10, 2007 at 1:49 PM
One commentator on LGF says he read on DKOS that outbursts are planned every five minutes. Anyone else heard this?
amerpundit on September 10, 2007 at 1:49 PM
Political reconciliation will only happen under a secure environment.
You can sense the dems a$$holes puckering at that one!
csdeven on September 10, 2007 at 1:52 PM
“From leading to partnering to over-watch.” Sounds like our only option, and a well thought out plan.
I don’t think the Democrats can withdraw us from Iraq even if they want too. They’ll kick and scream for show, but they don’t have the guts to act on their threats to “get us out of Iraq now.”
Ordinary1 on September 10, 2007 at 1:52 PM
… by “outbursts” do you mean “pants peeing”?
yo on September 10, 2007 at 1:52 PM
offtopic: ronald reagan’s first wife just died.
http://www.philly.com/philly/entertainment/todaystalk/20070910_ap_actressjanewymandiesat93.html
Vincenzo on September 10, 2007 at 1:52 PM
Indeed.
yo on September 10, 2007 at 1:53 PM
Concern over extent of Iranian involvement in Iraq…
Ordinary1 on September 10, 2007 at 1:54 PM
Come on, PMHO (can I call you that? we’re friends, right?), if my cousins and friends who’ve never left North America can lecture me about what Israel is like, surely these Democrats who’ve never served in the military in any significant sort of way can tell a GENERAL what military strategy is like or what it should be.
This whole thing is a complete put on. These government people made their minds up long before Petraeus set foot on US soil.
mjk on September 10, 2007 at 1:54 PM
Iranian involvement, mentioned again. Hammer it home.
World B. Free on September 10, 2007 at 1:54 PM
I’m glad the turned off the microphones of the Dems on the committee while Patraeus is speaking.
All of that “LaLaLaLa … LaLaLaLa” would be annoying.
fogw on September 10, 2007 at 1:55 PM
5 minute outburst
Guardian on September 10, 2007 at 2:00 PM
FREAKS!!!!
Guardian on September 10, 2007 at 2:00 PM
Code Pink – raising the standard of maturity
yo on September 10, 2007 at 2:00 PM
bunch of crazies..
j0 on September 10, 2007 at 2:00 PM
The truth is killing them! Quick! Call 911!
Guardian on September 10, 2007 at 2:01 PM
Another group of whack-a-doodles are getting dragged out. Squeal you fat pig! Squeal!!
csdeven on September 10, 2007 at 2:01 PM
caller on Rush just called the Dems Evil……or to paraphrase Ann Coulter, “Liberals are driven by Satan and lie about everything”
jp on September 10, 2007 at 2:01 PM
Oh they are going to charge them so if this was a preconceived plan before hand then conspiracy charges could be leveled.
conspiracy = felony
Mojack420 on September 10, 2007 at 2:02 PM
Seriously, who’s the DUDE wearing the pink tiara?
yo on September 10, 2007 at 2:02 PM
It’s “intolerable,” genius.
World B. Free on September 10, 2007 at 2:02 PM
She yelled I am 60 years old.
Well Lady you are old enough to know better. Grow up
ordi on September 10, 2007 at 2:02 PM
Skelton has done a great job controlling those nuts.
Complete7 on September 10, 2007 at 2:02 PM
Code Pinkos making a scene.
Told ya Midge was there.
Brat on September 10, 2007 at 2:02 PM
What’s wrong with security there?
Throw all of those surrender monkeys out.
fogw on September 10, 2007 at 2:02 PM
Check out the one pinko holding her cell phone up to video the eviction…ahahahahaha
Sir Loin on September 10, 2007 at 2:03 PM
It’s a shame some people are more instereted in being the news instead of listening and learning.
Vincenzo on September 10, 2007 at 2:04 PM
Mojack420 on September 10, 2007 at 2:04 PM
What that be, well, a liability to their defense? Ya know, video taping the situation?
amerpundit on September 10, 2007 at 2:04 PM
Can’t we just start assuming they’re one in the same?
Editor on September 10, 2007 at 2:04 PM
What=wouldn’t
amerpundit on September 10, 2007 at 2:04 PM
Well, that’s war for ya’
yo on September 10, 2007 at 2:04 PM
Absolutely disgraceful (Code Pinkos, not Petraeus).
Timothy S. Carlson on September 10, 2007 at 2:05 PM
soon to be the most popular
punkgirl on the main line of the DC grey bar hotel .sorry hit the wrong button my bad.
Mojack420 on September 10, 2007 at 2:05 PM
Come on. Who are they fooling? They want those freeks there.
Otherwise they would remove the whole section. Like the guy in the suit, with the pink hat on. Or the gal in the pink shirt taking pictures with her phone.
Agrippa2k on September 10, 2007 at 2:05 PM
they need to start passing out tasers to the Capitol Hill Police
mfnorman on September 10, 2007 at 2:05 PM
Video evidence?? WTF It is being broadcast to MILLIONS of home and will be put on YouTue inside of ten minutes.
And they need evidence. These people are dumber than I thought.
ordi on September 10, 2007 at 2:06 PM
Midge Potts. Remember her/him at the Plame hearing?
Brat on September 10, 2007 at 2:07 PM
So – Petraeus knows Iran is supplying the insurgents – so does Bush and the administration. When do we seal _that_ border? Oh, that’s right … they won’t do it here, why should we expect for them to do it there. Doh!
Timothy S. Carlson on September 10, 2007 at 2:07 PM
Did they call Petraeus a chickenhawk yet?
pedestrian on September 10, 2007 at 2:08 PM
Yeah, I’m definitely for gratuitous tasing. Glad the chairman of he committee put them on notice any more disruption will result in prosecution.
Wish this had been said before Medea had got up. Either that or gratuitous tasing.
Christoph on September 10, 2007 at 2:08 PM
It can’t be done. You can attack the enemy, defeat him, but you can’t “secure the border”. It’s too big; they don’t have enough troops.
They would need 5-times that number. It would be a dumb strategy.
Christoph on September 10, 2007 at 2:09 PM
Midge Potts. Remember her/him at the Plame hearing?
that’s slandering both sexes
mfnorman on September 10, 2007 at 2:09 PM
HERE IS THE PETRAEUS REPORT
U.S. Army Gen. David Petraeus, the top U.S. military commander in Iraq, and U.S. Ambassador to Iraq Ryan C. Crocker began briefing Congress today on their assessment of the security situation in Iraq.
Report (PDF)
bnelson44 on September 10, 2007 at 2:10 PM
Ladies in pink will be prosecuted. Nice outburst. I notice others in pink. Can’t they ask ‘em to leave now?
Ordinary1 on September 10, 2007 at 2:10 PM
how do the moonbats get into these things. isn’t it by invite only?
WhoKnew on September 10, 2007 at 2:13 PM
You mean throw them out based on color?
Brat on September 10, 2007 at 2:13 PM
Riiight…..and how many believe you nutballs? Quite a few less than respect, admire and yes, believe, the good General, I’d wager.
Hannibal Smith on September 10, 2007 at 2:14 PM
I’ve been saying it for years…
jdawg on September 10, 2007 at 2:14 PM
Cindy Sheehan arrested at Petraeus hearing:
http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/cindy-sheehan-arrested-in-outside-petraeus-hearing-2007-09-10.html
sugiero on September 10, 2007 at 2:15 PM
If the Capitol Hill cops can’t do it, how about the fashion police?!
Ordinary1 on September 10, 2007 at 2:16 PM
You know these pinkos do demonstrate an example of the difficulties of fighting terrorism. That is our shortcomings of will – to identify and deal with obvious hostiles.
Our tactics mirror the removing of two pinkos, after an attack. Why leave the rest of the group? And how did they get in, in the first place? Even I recognize their faces.
Makes you wonder how effective we would be if all terrorists wore uniforms. I suspect about as effective as with the pinkos.
On the positive side, this will be a long hearing, and eventually they will all be removed. Or perhaps some will wait until the very end of the hearing to reveal a banner.
Agrippa2k on September 10, 2007 at 2:16 PM
The left is truely the lunatic fringe
William Amos on September 10, 2007 at 2:17 PM
“To summarize, the security situation in Iraq is improving, and Iraqis elements are slowly taking on more of the responsibility for protecting their citizens. Innumerable challenges lie ahead; however, Coalition and Iraqi Security Forces have made progress toward achieving sustainable security. As a result, the United States will be in a position to reduce its forces in Iraq in the months ahead.”
Nonfactor on September 10, 2007 at 2:17 PM
Crocker’s a FredHEad?
yo on September 10, 2007 at 2:17 PM
I thought St Cindy had eited stage left.
SHE’S BACK = AGAIN
Cindy Sheehan arrested at Petraeus hearing
http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/cindy-sheehan-arrested-in-outside-petraeus-hearing-2007-09-10.html
ordi on September 10, 2007 at 2:18 PM
6% Economic Growth in Iraq in ‘07! Haven’t heard that on the MSM.
Ordinary1 on September 10, 2007 at 2:21 PM
And they don’t even realize how lucky they are to have the right to protest.
Brat on September 10, 2007 at 2:21 PM
Landmines? Drones? Apache patrols? Hell, dig a big freakin’ series of trenches and fill them with oil – set on fire as needed. Create a kill zone between Iran and Iraq. Add the Syrian border, too.
Can’t be done…right. Dude, this is the American fighting force – if your tell them do to it, and you give them the resources, it _will_ be done. Booyah!
Oh – that’s right. This is a President who supported amnesty for the illegals, and is too busy fighting a politically correct war. It’s not that it can’t be done, but it _won’t_ be done.
Where’s General Patton when you need him.
Timothy S. Carlson on September 10, 2007 at 2:21 PM
cant they charge these morons with a “petty with priors” and increase the charges leveled to felony status????
Im pretty damn sure looking at real time and being locked up with not so understanding people might give them a life lesson.
Mojack420 on September 10, 2007 at 2:21 PM
Then it’s not a country. If we only have enough troops to defend part of it, then let’s call that part Iraq and defend it. The whole idea of a border is that it is easier to defend the perimeter than the whole interior.
pedestrian on September 10, 2007 at 2:23 PM
Is it time yet?
Now can we question their patriotism?
JohnnyD on September 10, 2007 at 2:25 PM
Good point. We take so much for granted (the Dems anyway). Money ain’t coming from taxes. This is why the oil revenue is so important. Distribution of the revenue would be problematic (unless it would be taxed).
If the Iraqi government is dealing with budgets, and is paralyzed with bureaucracy – sounds like “mission accomplished” to me.
Face it. If they get the so called “reconciliation”, distribute money, etc. The Dems will find something to complain about and will still declare the government a “complete” failure.
In the end they will claim the 140 degree temperatures in Iraq proof of Global Warming (or a US military weather weapon).
Agrippa2k on September 10, 2007 at 2:26 PM
Is he talking about the same Syria that Kucinich was in, last week?
yo on September 10, 2007 at 2:27 PM
“Iran plays a harmful role in Iraq….”
Ordinary1 on September 10, 2007 at 2:27 PM
We passed that point quite some time ago..
Guardian on September 10, 2007 at 2:27 PM
CODE STINK “I’m melting, I’m melting, melting oooheeeeeaaa……
sonnyspats1 on September 10, 2007 at 2:28 PM
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