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		<title>By: shick</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/09/10/no-wacky-no-worky/comment-page-1/#comment-1122665</link>
		<dc:creator>shick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 00:10:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Shick, I’m not a RC and don’t believe in purgatory, works of supererogation, etc. I’m trying to show that Christians can disagree and not condemn one another for believing in them or not believing in them. 
Akzed on May 13, 2008 at 4:19 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

If you claim to be a Christian, what denomination, statement of faith, confession, etc, do you hold to? Or are you a relativist? I’ll lay my cards on the table. I’m a reformed Southern Baptist that holds to the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.spurgeon.org/~phil/creeds/nh_conf.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;New Hampshire Baptist Confession (1833)&lt;/a&gt;. 
It is true that Christians can disagree on some issue. However, it is neither true that there is room to include Rome’s sacraments and dogmas in the gospel or that Christians can’t condemn false beliefs.
&lt;blockquote&gt;Your view of RC’s is a caricature. &lt;/blockquote&gt;
My view of Roman Catholic teaching is accurate since I was raised one and have privately studied church history for about ten years now. Your view, however, seems limited to what Rome claims today it has always believed.
&lt;blockquote&gt;Go to www.newadvent.com for instance, and look up indulgences. They do not believe what you say they believe about them. You might be referring the their abuse during the Middle Ages, but you should allow them to define their own terms.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
That’s one of my favorite sources. I use it often so as not to misstate their beliefs. 
Tell me, did this part bother you? 
&lt;blockquote&gt;What an indulgence is not
It is not an exemption from any law or duty, and much less from the obligation consequent on certain kinds of sin, e.g., restitution; on the contrary, &lt;strong&gt;it means a more complete payment of the debt which the sinner owes to God.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
More complete payment? Can an indulgence add to the work of Christ so that it is more complete? This doesn’t bother you? It should, and I fear for your soul if it doesn’t. 
What Rome does believe is bad enough. This didn’t bother you either?
&lt;blockquote&gt;What an indulgence is
An indulgence is the extra-sacramental remission of the &lt;strong&gt;temporal punishment due, in God&#039;s justice, to sin that has been forgiven&lt;/strong&gt;, which remission is granted by the Church in the exercise of the power of the keys, through the application &lt;strong&gt;of the superabundant merits of Christ and of the saints&lt;/strong&gt;, and for some just and reasonable motive.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Didn’t Christ himself take all the punishment that was God’s wrath? Is a Christian allowed to think that he can drink from the cup that is God’s wrath in purgatory?
Christ’s merits are not enough and need to be supplemented by those of the saints? Please show me where in scripture this is allowed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Shick, I’m not a RC and don’t believe in purgatory, works of supererogation, etc. I’m trying to show that Christians can disagree and not condemn one another for believing in them or not believing in them.<br />
Akzed on May 13, 2008 at 4:19 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>If you claim to be a Christian, what denomination, statement of faith, confession, etc, do you hold to? Or are you a relativist? I’ll lay my cards on the table. I’m a reformed Southern Baptist that holds to the <a href="http://www.spurgeon.org/~phil/creeds/nh_conf.htm" rel="nofollow">New Hampshire Baptist Confession (1833)</a>.<br />
It is true that Christians can disagree on some issue. However, it is neither true that there is room to include Rome’s sacraments and dogmas in the gospel or that Christians can’t condemn false beliefs.</p>
<blockquote><p>Your view of RC’s is a caricature. </p></blockquote>
<p>My view of Roman Catholic teaching is accurate since I was raised one and have privately studied church history for about ten years now. Your view, however, seems limited to what Rome claims today it has always believed.</p>
<blockquote><p>Go to <a href="http://www.newadvent.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.newadvent.com</a> for instance, and look up indulgences. They do not believe what you say they believe about them. You might be referring the their abuse during the Middle Ages, but you should allow them to define their own terms.</p></blockquote>
<p>That’s one of my favorite sources. I use it often so as not to misstate their beliefs.<br />
Tell me, did this part bother you? </p>
<blockquote><p>What an indulgence is not<br />
It is not an exemption from any law or duty, and much less from the obligation consequent on certain kinds of sin, e.g., restitution; on the contrary, <strong>it means a more complete payment of the debt which the sinner owes to God.</strong></p></blockquote>
<p>More complete payment? Can an indulgence add to the work of Christ so that it is more complete? This doesn’t bother you? It should, and I fear for your soul if it doesn’t.<br />
What Rome does believe is bad enough. This didn’t bother you either?</p>
<blockquote><p>What an indulgence is<br />
An indulgence is the extra-sacramental remission of the <strong>temporal punishment due, in God&#8217;s justice, to sin that has been forgiven</strong>, which remission is granted by the Church in the exercise of the power of the keys, through the application <strong>of the superabundant merits of Christ and of the saints</strong>, and for some just and reasonable motive.</p></blockquote>
<p>Didn’t Christ himself take all the punishment that was God’s wrath? Is a Christian allowed to think that he can drink from the cup that is God’s wrath in purgatory?<br />
Christ’s merits are not enough and need to be supplemented by those of the saints? Please show me where in scripture this is allowed.</p>
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		<title>By: ricelchew</title>
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		<dc:creator>ricelchew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 10:19:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The whoopie cushion costume would make a good Code Pink mascot for Sheehan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The whoopie cushion costume would make a good Code Pink mascot for Sheehan.</p>
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		<title>By: pilamaye</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/09/10/no-wacky-no-worky/comment-page-1/#comment-683528</link>
		<dc:creator>pilamaye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 22:44:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, Geico is right.  There are better ways to spend 10 minutes on the Internet, and that doesn&#039;t include looney stuff like this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, Geico is right.  There are better ways to spend 10 minutes on the Internet, and that doesn&#8217;t include looney stuff like this.</p>
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		<title>By: Kensington</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kensington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 20:18:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I died a little inside reading about all that super terrific happy corporate fun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I died a little inside reading about all that super terrific happy corporate fun.</p>
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		<title>By: sonnyspats1</title>
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		<dc:creator>sonnyspats1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 19:57:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You’re giving me a Fat Albert flashback.

James on September 10, 2007 at 3:46 PM

Fat Albert OK Chubby Albert not OK. Heh Heh
Yeah the COS is from Philly too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You’re giving me a Fat Albert flashback.</p>
<p>James on September 10, 2007 at 3:46 PM</p>
<p>Fat Albert OK Chubby Albert not OK. Heh Heh<br />
Yeah the COS is from Philly too.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/09/10/no-wacky-no-worky/comment-page-1/#comment-683236</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 19:46:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;sonnyspats1 on September 10, 2007 at 3:16 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You&#039;re giving me a Fat Albert flashback.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>sonnyspats1 on September 10, 2007 at 3:16 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>You&#8217;re giving me a Fat Albert flashback.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/09/10/no-wacky-no-worky/comment-page-1/#comment-683232</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 19:46:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uh, no...thankfully, I wasn&#039;t talking about Goldberg, but a &#039;marital aid.&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uh, no&#8230;thankfully, I wasn&#8217;t talking about Goldberg, but a &#8216;marital aid.&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: sonnyspats1</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/09/10/no-wacky-no-worky/comment-page-1/#comment-683186</link>
		<dc:creator>sonnyspats1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 19:24:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With that context I think you’d be talking about a different kind of cushion…a pushin’ cuhsion.

James on September 10, 2007 at 3:01 PM

Oh Uh well no the Goldberg cushion. Heh My guess is the name is a trade mark, on one hand it could cause outrage as a slur on the other an infringment of copy rights.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With that context I think you’d be talking about a different kind of cushion…a pushin’ cuhsion.</p>
<p>James on September 10, 2007 at 3:01 PM</p>
<p>Oh Uh well no the Goldberg cushion. Heh My guess is the name is a trade mark, on one hand it could cause outrage as a slur on the other an infringment of copy rights.</p>
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		<title>By: sonnyspats1</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/09/10/no-wacky-no-worky/comment-page-1/#comment-683175</link>
		<dc:creator>sonnyspats1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 19:16:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What no&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7q-Sh-Qmz4&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; Buck Buck?&lt;/a&gt; It&#039;s a yankee thing that started in the inner cities. I know of it being played in school yards as far back as the fifties. The object is to pile on the other team and knock them to the ground. With the schoolyards of the day being segregated boy/girl it was a great was to let off steam and avoid fist fights.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What no<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7q-Sh-Qmz4" rel="nofollow"> Buck Buck?</a> It&#8217;s a yankee thing that started in the inner cities. I know of it being played in school yards as far back as the fifties. The object is to pile on the other team and knock them to the ground. With the schoolyards of the day being segregated boy/girl it was a great was to let off steam and avoid fist fights.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/09/10/no-wacky-no-worky/comment-page-1/#comment-683130</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 19:01:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Is it still PC to say WHOOPIE?

sonnyspats1 on September 10, 2007 at 2:54 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

With that context I think you&#039;d be talking about a different kind of cushion...a pushin&#039; cuhsion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Is it still PC to say WHOOPIE?</p>
<p>sonnyspats1 on September 10, 2007 at 2:54 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>With that context I think you&#8217;d be talking about a different kind of cushion&#8230;a pushin&#8217; cuhsion.</p>
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		<title>By: sonnyspats1</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/09/10/no-wacky-no-worky/comment-page-1/#comment-683103</link>
		<dc:creator>sonnyspats1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 18:54:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it still PC to say WHOOPIE?</description>
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		<title>By: profitsbeard</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/09/10/no-wacky-no-worky/comment-page-1/#comment-683095</link>
		<dc:creator>profitsbeard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 18:51:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>trubble- 

(with tribbles?)

It&#039;s that secret delay (&lt;em&gt;caused by covert, Soros-funded leftist computer hacker&#039;s in your region&lt;/em&gt;) that caused your comment to come in later than mine.  (&lt;em&gt;They&#039;re still sparse in my rural region&lt;/em&gt;.)

I vote that they adopt this outfit for all of their future PINK protests.

&lt;em&gt;Whoopee&lt;/em&gt;!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>trubble- </p>
<p>(with tribbles?)</p>
<p>It&#8217;s that secret delay (<em>caused by covert, Soros-funded leftist computer hacker&#8217;s in your region</em>) that caused your comment to come in later than mine.  (<em>They&#8217;re still sparse in my rural region</em>.)</p>
<p>I vote that they adopt this outfit for all of their future PINK protests.</p>
<p><em>Whoopee</em>!</p>
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		<title>By: CurtZHP</title>
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		<dc:creator>CurtZHP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 18:50:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Sounds like someone has a case of the Mondays.&lt;/blockquote&gt;


&quot;I believe you&#039;d get your ass kicked sayin&#039; something like that, man.&quot;

  ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Sounds like someone has a case of the Mondays.</p></blockquote>
<p>&#8220;I believe you&#8217;d get your ass kicked sayin&#8217; something like that, man.&#8221;</p>
<p>  ;-)</p>
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		<title>By: trubble</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/09/10/no-wacky-no-worky/comment-page-1/#comment-683065</link>
		<dc:creator>trubble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 18:39:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>beat me by 2 minutes profitsbeard, you win!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>beat me by 2 minutes profitsbeard, you win!</p>
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		<title>By: trubble</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/09/10/no-wacky-no-worky/comment-page-1/#comment-683062</link>
		<dc:creator>trubble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 18:38:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw the pic of the guy in the whoopie cushion suit and figured this was about the Code Pinko protest.</description>
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		<title>By: profitsbeard</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/09/10/no-wacky-no-worky/comment-page-1/#comment-683054</link>
		<dc:creator>profitsbeard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 18:36:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And I thought this was a picture of a Code Pinko at the Petraeus Report.</description>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/09/10/no-wacky-no-worky/comment-page-1/#comment-683022</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 18:24:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;mimi1220 on September 10, 2007 at 2:22 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Thbbbbbbpt!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>mimi1220 on September 10, 2007 at 2:22 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Thbbbbbbpt!</p>
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		<title>By: mimi1220</title>
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		<dc:creator>mimi1220</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 18:22:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James, you are a party pooper.  :&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: Meryl Yourish</title>
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		<dc:creator>Meryl Yourish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 18:20:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never saw/heard that. Thanks for the laugh.</description>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/09/10/no-wacky-no-worky/comment-page-1/#comment-683012</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 18:19:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a costume, the &#039;woopie cushion&#039; leaves much to be desired...if you find someone big enough to sit on it, the noise you make is probably going to be quite different than would be indicated by the concept of a flatus apparatus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a costume, the &#8216;woopie cushion&#8217; leaves much to be desired&#8230;if you find someone big enough to sit on it, the noise you make is probably going to be quite different than would be indicated by the concept of a flatus apparatus.</p>
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		<title>By: Bad Candy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bad Candy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 18:17:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds like someone has a case of the Mondays.</description>
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