Video: South Korean prez gets testy when Bush refuses to capitulate totally
posted at 9:23 am on September 7, 2007 by Allahpundit
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Here’s something you don’t see every day: Bush having a “moment” with a world leader where it’s the other guy who’s acting like a jackass. Why not declare the Korean War over now, wonders Roh. Why not retain a little diplomatic leverage and have Kim Jong-Il denuclearize first, comes the reply. Advantage: Boosh. Click the image to watch.
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Because it’s not ours to declare over?
amerpundit on September 7, 2007 at 9:25 AM
As if we’ve done nothing for the S. Koreans over the past 5+ decades.
p0s3r on September 7, 2007 at 9:29 AM
Fixed for accuracy.
BKennedy on September 7, 2007 at 9:37 AM
Of course we haven’t. Jeez, didn’t you watch MASH?
Laura on September 7, 2007 at 9:38 AM
I forsee a SNL skit consisting of Roh and Bush.
jediwebdude on September 7, 2007 at 9:38 AM
As I said upstairs (it was so brilliant, I’ll repost it):
He could have shown that appeasing Roh up by saying:
Christoph on September 7, 2007 at 9:39 AM
Cristoph– That is what needs to happen. Since the time I was stationed over in Seoul, there has been this sentiment.
JVelez on September 7, 2007 at 9:42 AM
Yeah, Korea is a tiny little friggin’ peninsula.
If they aren’t grateful, then to heck with ‘em. The U.S. is doing a GREAT thing by stationing troops in Korea, who would suffer enormous casualties if there was a hot war.
If Roh doesn’t get that… then pull back, Mr. President, pull back.
I’m sure you’ll find a use for those troops somewhere.
Christoph on September 7, 2007 at 9:47 AM
North Korea is more of a problem to South Korea and Japan than it is to us. Maybe we need to let our teenaged allies grow up and stand more for themselves as adults.
Attila (Pillage Idiot) on September 7, 2007 at 9:47 AM
(I’m kidding of course. I don’t advocate really pulling back when on the verge of what may be a great diplomatic victory. But that asshole Roh — smug as all hell — isn’t helping.
He’s jeopardizing his own people’s security and the U.S., his best ally’s, policy. Seriously, I would take that into consideration if it becomes a hot war and ask myself how many U.S. troops to invest in turning that around vs. letting communist Korea implode for another 50-years.
Christoph on September 7, 2007 at 9:49 AM
As if we’ve done nothing for the S. Koreans, Europe, Africa, the Middle East AND the rest of the world over the past 5+ decades.
There. Fixed better.
reine.de.tout on September 7, 2007 at 9:52 AM
Pulling the troops from South Korea is long over due. South Korea needs to crap or get off the pot. Boosh had the perfect opportunity to show he has recovered his Malkins and called Roh’s hand.
Wade on September 7, 2007 at 9:54 AM
Hook line and sinker the SK president bought into the ‘muppet’ image the media/left crafted for GW. I have a feeling that Condi is getting some pretty specific instructions this morning.
Limerick on September 7, 2007 at 10:01 AM
This just pi$$es me off no end. My Dad served in Korea during the shooting war. And was there with the engineers after the cease fire carving out the DMZ while Joe Marine had guns pointed his way on one side and (as he says) Charlie Gook had his guns pointed on him from the other side.
It was a very costly war for us in terms of lifes and money. And it has been very costly to keep the South Koreans safe all these 50+ years since. But they have continually failed to deserve all that support and sacrifice.
Sometimes I think the same, pull out and let Kim Jong Butthead have at their ass. At least that will kill off a bunch of these bleeding heart youngsters over there that have had it too damn easy over the last few decades and fail to realize that American blood sweat and tears bought them all this prosperity.
conservnut on September 7, 2007 at 10:02 AM
Bush should have said: “ Oh, would you like us to end the war? Okay no problem, we can have the last of our troops out by , say, Next Monday. Is that soon enough?”
We could really use those troops on our southern border!
TheSitRep on September 7, 2007 at 10:26 AM
Let the communist’s overrun South Korea and see how that jackass laughs then. Screw South Korea the ungrateful SOB’s. Why do we care about that dangling peninsula anyway. In a few years Japan’s military will be up to task and they can police the area. Judging by the look of that fence I believe we could break it down and reassemble it at the Mexican border along with the 37,000 troops. We could sent Mexican laborers to do the job.
sonnyspats1 on September 7, 2007 at 10:26 AM
Better yet we could round up illegals to do the job!
sonnyspats1 on September 7, 2007 at 10:27 AM
I’m glad I bought my Samsung monitor now. They will be in short supply when the south gets swallowed by the horde from the north.
BDavis on September 7, 2007 at 10:28 AM
So what is Bush calling his trip to the Pacific Rim Nations ‘The Alms for The Poor Tour’. Roh is laughing because he knows the U.S. in now owned by China. This is the major disadvantage of globalization. The U.S. economy is no longer a seperate entity in and of itself. We are built on a house of cards economy that will come tumbling down if the Dems come to power and impliment their brand of economic policies. Oh no wait John kerry heads the Senate commitiee on Small Business Development, everything is just peachy.
sonnyspats1 on September 7, 2007 at 10:37 AM
… because Kia’s are such QUALITY vehicles…
Mazztek on September 7, 2007 at 10:43 AM
I’m pretty sure Roh was playing it up for the audience back home. The anti-American sentiment in South Korean has always been there, stronger in some years than others. For all I know it may be particularly strong this year, and Roh was simply creating sound bites for himself to be played back home.
In private, he probably kowtowed to Bush and apologized profusely for his lose of face.
Mindcrime on September 7, 2007 at 10:43 AM
My two tours in South Korea have convinced me that we should give them what they want and leave them to deal with the hungry wolf up north.
My favorite Korean joke: Why do the Koreans always look so pissed off? Because they don’t have a DEROS (Date Eligible to Return from OverSeas).
James on September 7, 2007 at 10:52 AM
Nah, dude…MadTV. I see Bobby Lee playing Roh & Frank Caliente returning for his reprisal as Bush.
Classic!
Miss_Anthrope on September 7, 2007 at 10:57 AM
correction: Caliendo
Miss_Anthrope on September 7, 2007 at 10:58 AM
Roh should take another look at the photo showing the differences between South and North Korea at night (where there is virtually no illumination in the north). Are you sure that’s what the South wants to unite with, Roh?
Captain America on September 7, 2007 at 10:58 AM
I wish I was more knowledgeable here – but – why does South Korea want to “reunite” with North Korea? Is there a benefit in it for them? Or, as seems reasonable to expect, would North Korea make South Korea into a spitting image of itself? Am I missing something?
nailinmyeye on September 7, 2007 at 11:00 AM
OT – sorry, AP. Two different links today have taken us to the scummy CNN video site, where they are selling the titillating story of a dyed blond Hooters waitress with fake tits (yawn) who got removed from a SW Airlines flight because of her “revealing attire”. (It wasn’t all that revealing after she made some adjustments).
She’ll probably file suit, natch.
Back to your regular programming.
Jaibones on September 7, 2007 at 11:07 AM
I’d have to say they want to help their neighbours to the north, and might expect to get cheap labor in return.
I’m also pretty sure the partition wasn’t their choice, but imposed by the UN
Canadian Imperialist Running Dog on September 7, 2007 at 11:19 AM
For the same reason that Germany wanted to reunite. SK does not, however, want to reunite with a communist NK. The South Koreans dislike Kim just as much as we do.
It is true though that some of the SK’s are willing to overlook Kim’s barbaric nature for the sake of unity. Don’t let this episode fool you though. The appreciation of America is there, but it’s tempered with frustration for the lack of progress.
SouthernDem on September 7, 2007 at 11:20 AM
Thanks, I suppose that makes more sense. I just seems a bit too simplistic for the SKs to want us to leave, and reunite with NK as it is. That sounds weird to me. But, your comment makes sense. It would be interesting to see what they would do if we did pull out.
nailinmyeye on September 7, 2007 at 11:24 AM
agree with that, and thanks for protecting us.
JiangxiDad on September 7, 2007 at 11:31 AM
It would be dishonest to say that some wouldn’t celebrate, especially the younger generation who have no real concept of the oppression the North would foist upon them. But there is a large, more mature (intellectually) population that would despair. They do realize the important job we are doing in protecting them from the monster Kim at their doorstep.
BTW, I claim all this knowledge because I have relatives who live in Daegu who I’ve had these conversations with. Just so you know I’m not talking out my butt.
SouthernDem on September 7, 2007 at 11:31 AM
There is an armistice between the government of North Korea and the United Nations. There is no arrangement between North and South Korea as NK didn’t recognize the government of the South, and as far as I know NK still doesn’t officially recognize the existence of SK as a nation. It’s possible it’s the same with SK vis-a-vis NK as both probably look at it as still one country despite how international recognitions go, but NK has the advantage in that they signed the armistice and SK signed nothing.
Lots of things would need to be settled before Bush could “declare” peace, such as countries and borders, but I’ll bet the only one the NK’s would be willing to sign is the one that says NK is the rightful and legitimate government of all Korea.
Maybe Bush should ask Kim what he would accept and then ask Roh if what Kim wants is good enough for Bush to “declare” peace.
Dusty on September 7, 2007 at 11:35 AM
The Korean conflict should have been the start and the end of armed actions by committee and the UN should have been disbanded at that point instead of being allowed to get worse and operationally take the lives of many thousands of American service people and create the environment of death for millions globally.
China has some useful idiot purposes for Kimmie while we still protect South Korea if left on their own China would squish Kimmie like bug and with SKs prosperity, China would treat them like Taiwan.
Speakup on September 7, 2007 at 11:38 AM
The appreciation for the US is dying…literally. The vast majority of the people there who appreciate our presence are the ones who lived through the fighting. Others include owners of the local businesses that cater to US troops and contractors who do business with us…and that’s at least born from an economic appreciation, not an ideological one.
By constrast, their youth is being indoctrinated to hate the US. Some colleges make attendence at anti-US protests mandatory to receive a passing grade in some courses.
James on September 7, 2007 at 11:40 AM
America bashing. It should be an offical Olympic sport. Never before in the history of mankind has a country intentionally killed, enslaved or occupied more people and territory the USA. If it wasn’t for the USA then the whole world would be one happy place filled with joy joy feelings.
Let’s take care of our problems for a change & let the SK’s deal with their own.
BTW….my initial comment is SARCASM for the Democraps in the house.
VikingGoneWild on September 7, 2007 at 11:41 AM
We need to pull out of there and let them see how they get along without us.
PRCalDude on September 7, 2007 at 11:45 AM
agreed.
PRCalDude on September 7, 2007 at 11:46 AM
I say we pull out of SK and when NK over runs SK we let the newly rearmed Japanese step in and take care of the situation. If the thought of that happening doesn’t get Roh thinking then he deserves whatever happens.
doriangrey on September 7, 2007 at 12:24 PM
Roh wouldn’t let us pull our troops out of SK because of the money that is spent there by our presence.
cjs1943 on September 7, 2007 at 12:51 PM
Then you should leave and say f’em.
But seriously, isn’t this the same as U.S. schools?
;-)
Christoph on September 7, 2007 at 12:58 PM
As someone who also did two tours in the “Land of the Morning Calm”, I literally laughed out loud at that one.
That’s this picture, for those who haven’t seen it. The difference between a modern capitalist economy and the backward hell of Communism, where starving people sometimes eat grass and tree bark in an effort to survive, and cannibalism isn’t unheard of.
ReubenJCogburn on September 7, 2007 at 1:49 PM
Except for the Serbs of course.
aengus on September 7, 2007 at 2:21 PM
Roh is left of center. He is pandering to his base.
If a peace was declared I wonder how Roh would help the North.
Reunification, other than under the North’s terms, is probably not on the cards.
davod on September 7, 2007 at 3:00 PM
I’m with Roh. Take the 100,000 US troops in South Korea and all the money they spend and ship them over to Iraq to sit on the Iranian border. Now that would be a surge that would be effective. Let the South Koreans, who wouldn’t exist without the US by the way, take care of old Kim by themselves. It’s not like we need our troops there to contain the chinese. We go to war with the chinese and the missiles will be flying so what good are ground forces that are within the fallout zone? They would be safer in Iraq in that scenario.
peacenprosperity on September 7, 2007 at 4:24 PM
For the record, we have less than 30,000 American personnel stationed in South Korea right now. Prior to 2004 it was around 37,000, but 5,000 troops (2ID) were shifted to Iraq that year. An additional 5,000 were scheduled to leave the ROK in 2005-2006, and another 2,500 in 2007-2008. I’m not sure what the hard number is at the moment, probably in the mid-upper 20K range. This is per globalsecurity.org.
ReubenJCogburn on September 7, 2007 at 6:51 PM
I’d rather see Dubya get testy with Reid and Pelosi….on live TV. And I mean testy with extreme prejudice.
pilamaye on September 7, 2007 at 7:28 PM
Roh is a left wing twerp trying to make points with his left wing base.
However, Roh doesn’t want the US to leave.
He just wants to act like he is as important at POTUS.
There are a few farther left and communist demonstrators against US presence in South Korea, but they are mostly North Korean spies and dupes.
Almost all the South Korean people want the US to stay and protect them from North Korea.
slp on September 7, 2007 at 8:58 PM
Every time I see one of those S.K. student protests for unconditional reunification, I just imagine a couple of pigs marching around outside a colonial one-story with signs that say “Brick Houses Unfair to Wolves!”
Merovign on September 7, 2007 at 11:11 PM
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