Nonetheless, Romney defended the ongoing involvement of Bechtel/Parsons Brinckerhoff in the completion of the $14.6 billion Big Dig project, even though he lambasted the firm in the aftermath of the accident.

Mitt Romney appoints a new Mass Pike Authority board member due to a mistake in his prior appointment (political balance of the board). This new member is a friend of Romney’s rather than someone with road/highway experience. How? The person chosen is Judy Pagliuca, her husband is the managing director of Bain Capital, the company Romney founded.

Stephen Bechtel (President of Bechtel), longtime friend and supporter of Romney, has never been mentioned once by Romney, except when Romney finally placed an investigator in to look at Bechtels wrongs in the big dig…oh did I mention the investigator worked for Bechtel?

And of course they kept Bechtel as the engineering firm.

For Salt Lake City, Bechtel provided a detailed overall budget and helped plan schedules and manage costs. In addition, the company performed management services for design and construction of venues, with a focus on security issues.

Just a coincidence, I’m sure.

2. Show us that Mitt’s son was not qualified to work as a consultant and could not have been hired if not for Mitt’s “buying” him the job (which is what you accused Mitt’s parents of doing for him, and which is the genesis of this entire argument).

In order to do that you’ll have to begin by identifying which one of Romney’s sons did this work, since the Boston Phoenix article does not name him, and there is no “Bill” Romney as you wrote earlier.

Buy Danish on September 9, 2007 at 9:42 AM

Others of the final tally of 53 corporate sponsors were already under Romney and Bain Capital’s influence. Marriott is led by close family friends — now campaign finance co-chairs; plus, Romney was sitting on the company’s board at the time. Sealy, which Bain Capital owned, became a sponsor. So did Monster.com, where one of Romney’s sons worked as a consultant

Mitt’s company, Bain did consulting for Monster. More important is still how this got started.

You all claimed that Fred’s son was paid as a consultant, I stated that Mitt’s son also was paid as a consultant. Paid by a personal friend. And that turned out to be true.

You guys are the ones hanging on to the original belief, although you have revised your position and I am aware of that, that fathers help son’s. Mitt was helped by his father. Powerful men in influential positions give their sons an advantage. You don’t think so, I do. End of conversation.
I believe that, you guys don’t (or you didn’t until you realized that you were wrong and csdeven backed away).
Show me where I said he was buying his position? You guys thow out so many mis truths I can’t keep up.

Answer this one:

Where did I say he “bought” the job. Personal friend yes, but where did I say bought.

That’s all. Bain did consulting for Monster, the COO (or CEO) a personal friend of Mitt’s.

Much of Mitt’s money is coming from the Olympic business relationships that bailed out the Olympics. What does he owe them? I don’t know, but we will find out as time goes on and campaign money is recorded.

At least I have the common sense to admit to one mistake of Monster being bought by Bain, it was a contract with Bain for consulting (the abstract I presented), and no Bain does not make money selling their consulting for $6.50 on the Harvard business school service.

In case you don’t know, Bain makes money consulting not writing abstracts. If you understood what an abstract was you would not have mentioned the $6.50…how embarrassing for you.

And no, I have another life, I have not read much of what you guys wrote, but I can imagine that if I admitted one error, you are assuming everything is in error. What most of the liberals do, right out of their playbook. Congratulations.

On March 15, 2005, the governor directed the Executive Office of Transportation and the Massachusetts Highway Department to conduct an examination of the tunnel elements of the CA/T Project open to traffic. This examination is ongoing.”

That assertion was also included in August and September 2005 bond statements, as well as statements dated February 28, 2006 and April 18, 2006, an I-Team review shows.

“It was a mistake,”…
Misinformation in bond offerings is considered a serious breach of trust to potential investors and could result in a U.S. Securities & Exchange Commission investigation. Potential investors in state bonds rely on the information provided on bond statement to assess the state’s financial condition.

OOPs, guess his law degree didn’t help here. But at least he protected some investors He would never want his rich friends to get hurt.

It’s taken me 2 days to break through at all with “right2bright”. It is a very tedious process!

I know the feeling… I really do.

Check out my fourteen (14) hour marathon from:

Mcguyver on September 3, 2007 at 1:52 PM
to:
Mcguyver on September 4, 2007 at 3:51 AM

here
with: doriangrey, Bradky, and lorien1973.

It’s one for the history books… and very exhausting to say the least.
But notice how… not one of them, not a one… had any response once their reasoning/intellect was fully debunked!

And just to show you how chicken they are, watch them not even responding me here, today even though, I know they are around.

The stupid ones do have a tendency to stand out. I could ignore them but I kinda consider it my civic duty to debunk them.

Nobody gets a pass….Nobody!!

Keep up the heat, until it burns through their thick skulls….once they disappear you know you’ve done the first step….caused them to think.

Mcguyver on September 9, 2007 at 1:43 PM

The stupid ones do have a tendency to stand out. I could ignore them but I kinda consider it my civic duty to debunk them.

Dittoes on the cheers!

Funny thing is… I remember the really stupid ones, ie: EricPWJohnson, and the really smart ones –too numerous to mention– in that order.

I guess every village needs an idiot or two (or more).

HotAir has more than it’s share.

I don’t know that Logis is my favorite troll! There are quite a few of them who might be eligible for that title.

I am quite new to the “Hot Air Community” and am only just getting to know who all the characters are

Dittoes on the cheers!

The fact that Logis doesn’t like Romney has nothing to do with it of course :)
Buy Danish on September 9, 2007 at 1:11 PM

You are giving your favorite troll a run for his/her money as well I see.

Cheers.

You are an idiot to pay any attention to this thread!

/sarc.

According to Logis’ “logic” ( see logis on September 8, 2007 at 4:57 PM), we are just supposed to let people like right2bright and EricPWJohnson make false statements about Romney and not respond.

The fact that Logis doesn’t like Romney has nothing to do with it of course :)

Parents give him job with firm – firms collaspes
EricPWJohnson on September 8, 2007 at 10:00AM

Soooooooo…. this is where EricPWJohnson has been floating around… I thought he was on vacation since he wasn’t commenting on the other Fred posts the last few days…

Turns out he cannot take the heat when the tide turns against Fred…

And Danish’s response to EricPWJohnson here demonstrates..

What the hell are you talking about?
Buy Danish on September 8, 2007 at 10:15 AM

exactly….. why I have yet to see a post where he makes sense… or is even remotely funny..

The fact that he hasn’t showed up to defend Fred in the other posts where the tide is against Fred, just shows you what EricPWJohnson’s comments really are…… a pile of post-digested chicken feed… good enough for rose fertilizer….that’s all.

Watch him not even responding to me…. he is so chicken.

November 12, 2004 – After revelations of thousands of leaks which go back to 2001, Romney renews his demand that Amorello resign.

Amorello responds:

“I told (Romney) that I will not step down and there is no justifiable reason for me to do so,” Amorello said. “First off, let me start by saying that when the Big Dig’s tunnel system opened in 2003, it was perfectly safe. It remains so today.”

AND

“It is disheartening when public officials take and opportunity to frighten the public. There is no issue here with the public driving on this roadway,” said Amorello.

Note:

The Turnpike Authority is an independent agency, and Romney cannot fire Amorello, whose contract runs through 2007.

Regarding the Big Dig, which you say Romney mishandled, note the following which ironically I found at an anti-Romney website:

In November 2004, Romney asked Amorello to resign. (source: Worcester T&G, 11/13/2004)

In January 2005, Romney asked Amorello to resign. (source: Boston Globe, 1/26/2005)

In March 2005, Romney asked Amorello to resign. (source: Boston Globe, 3/16/2005)

Indeed, this story appeared in the Boston Globe on July 8, 2006:

Romney fights for control of turnpike board
Expected to veto plan to extend Levy’s term

By Sean P. Murphy and Andrea Estes, Globe Staff | July 8, 2006

Escalating the power struggle over the Massachusetts Turnpike Authority, Governor Mitt Romney plans to veto today a portion of the state budget passed by the Legislature that would weaken his control over the board that runs the controversial agency, the governor’s office said yesterday.

For several years, Romney has called for the resignation of Turnpike Authority chairman Matthew J. Amorello over management of the $14.6 billion Big Dig.

Amorello, a former state senator with strong ties to legislative leaders, has steadfastly refused to give up his $223,000-a-year post. Nevertheless, Romney was expected to effectively take control of the board this month when he filled a vacancy on the board, Romney’s third appointment on the five-member board since taking office in 2003.

But in May the state Senate slipped an amendment into the budget that would deny Romney his third appointment by extending the term of the incumbent board member, Jordan Levy, who is an ally of Amorello.

The veto planned today would reject the budget amendment that would extend Levy’s term.

Three days later, on July 11, 2006, Milena Delvalle was killed by the ceiling collapse, and the Democrat controlled legislature finally gave Romney the control he had sought for years.

Here’s the link to the July 8 story, but you may need to register at Boston.com to access the full article.

Buy Danish on September 9, 2007 at 9:58 AM

Yeah. I did a google for all Mitt’s sons and Monster.com. I found no direct link naming any of his sons and Monster. I am sure R2B has the proof by it just being stubborn about sharing it. I don’t accept one article mentioning it as proof that he did.

But, as you pointed out, there was nothing underhanded about it anyway. I would like to know if the son in question was qualified because I believe that is relevant.

The Boston Phoenix article says that Mitt’s son worked as a consultant for Monster.com at the time they agreed to be an Olympic sponsor under Mitt’s management, but even they don’t pretend that there is anything nefarious about that.

Open the link above…

We’re making progress!

This is all meaningless and irrelevant minutiae, but I want to make a point about the difference between facts and innuendo.

This was your entire premise which by your own admission is now wrong:

The fact that Bain bought Monster, Mitt’s son began working at Monster while Bain was consulting with them should be enough for most people to understand.

.

Now you need two more things to prove your “thesis”.

1. Show us how Mitt personally did consulting for Monster.com. He left Bain and Company in 1998, and Mitt’s name is not on that article. He had been called back from Bain Capital to Bain and Company to turn it’s declining fortunes around (which he did brilliantly) and it is highly unlikely that he was doing consulting work himself at that point.

2. Show us that Mitt’s son was not qualified to work as a consultant and could not have been hired if not for Mitt’s “buying” him the job (which is what you accused Mitt’s parents of doing for him, and which is the genesis of this entire argument).

In order to do that you’ll have to begin by identifying which one of Romney’s sons did this work, since the Boston Phoenix article does not name him, and there is no “Bill” Romney as you wrote earlier.

Do you know what an abstract is?
Not the 6.50 Harvard business extract.

right2bright on September 8, 2007 at 5:27 PM

Are you a pathological liar?

An abstractis a summary of a larger analytical/research report. I linked to a Harvard Business Review article.

Do you know what an article is?

More important, where is your evidence that Bain bought Monster?

Time to put up or shut up.

Buy Danish on September 8, 2007 at 5:01 PM

Do you know what an abstract is?
Not the 6.50 Harvard business extract.

But what where the abstract is…oh nevermind, you have to know what an abstract is.

You guys asked for this:

I’ll need a link for this too. I did a google search with both names and came up with no links between the two. I guess I just need to be led by the hand.

Bain and Monster.com

Well logis, you argued with me earlier, so I guess that makes you an idiot too.

You guys are way over your head…for $1,000 (about 100th of the original cost) bucks I will sell you the complete contract.

right2bright on September 8, 2007 at 3:19 PM

not2bright,

Kerist, you’re a Grade A jacka$$.

This is hilarious. You want to charge me $1000 to buy this, which is not an “abstract”, but a 2002 article for Harvard Business Review – which I could get for $6.50? This isn’t even about Monster.com specifically, but about CRMs in general.

(Be patient, the link takes a moment to open).

What does this have to do with Mitt Romney or his son? A whole lot of nothing?

csdeven,

Even if one were to stipulate that Mitt and Jeff Taylor are friends, this is a totally meaningless exercise. Not2bright is desperately trying to back up his claims but he has nothing to show for them.

I just hope this smoke cracking fool never serves on a jury since he is incapable of evaluating facts and information. He is dealing exclusively in rumor and innuendo (much of which seems to be entirely of his own invention).

In the extremely unlikely event that anyone else is still reading this, goodby. And to Bryan and Allah, congratulations on your tiny little contribution to the amount of Spam on the Internet.