Pew poll: Which candidate would Americans prefer, an atheist or a Muslim?
posted at 6:53 pm on September 6, 2007 by Allahpundit
No iPhone, traffic’s down, now this.
Curiously, the frontrunner in each party also happens to be thought of as the least religious in their respective field. Although one of those frontrunners might not be a frontrunner for much longer:
Blowback
Note from Hot Air management: This section is for comments from Hot Air's community of registered readers. Please don't assume that Hot Air management agrees with or otherwise endorses any particular comment just because we let it stand. A reminder: Anyone who fails to comply with our terms of use may lose their posting privilege.
Trackbacks/Pings
Trackback URL
Comments
Comment pages: 1 2 Next »
That’s gotta hurt. Atheists less than muslims, huh? Maybe if AP were muslim, michelle would get ya an iphone too :) . It’s the only explanation, really.
lorien1973 on September 6, 2007 at 6:55 PM
This says more about the general public’s lack of familiarity with Islam than preference over atheism, if you ask me.
TexasDan on September 6, 2007 at 6:56 PM
I would vote for an atheist if I thought he would make a good prez. AP, you running?
terryannonline on September 6, 2007 at 6:57 PM
+ GW’s constant stream of ‘religion of peace’. Think for a sec though of how well-publicized many ACLU cases are and compared to sharia creep…crickets.
Spirit of 1776 on September 6, 2007 at 6:57 PM
PERSECUTION.
Allahpundit on September 6, 2007 at 6:57 PM
Heh. Can you imagine?
Good evening. The state of the Union is, well, it’s depressing.
Spirit of 1776 on September 6, 2007 at 6:58 PM
Hey,
Well if he ran for prez, he could use all the taxpayers money to buy I-Phones and all the other gadgets his heart desires.
terryannonline on September 6, 2007 at 7:00 PM
You should include links to the HotAir stories when you post videos on YouTube. That way they are only a link away. I always try to link back to the story my videos are referring to. That should help to boast traffic to the site.
Keep up the good work AP
KCtheKat on September 6, 2007 at 7:02 PM
See, you atheists are giving cover to the muslims. If that poll is correct, and it is an atheist vs. a muslim, too many people will hold their nose and vote sharia.
Can’t you guys just pretend to be Christian for appearances, and believe not-to-believe in your spare time? You know, for the sake of the country. What if a guy like Ellison runs for president on the Dem ticket in the future, and the GOP candidate is some wiseguy atheist?
It’s not like you got to go to church or anything. Just say you’re a Christian if asked. Hang some Christmas lights in December. Say God bless once in awhile. It won’t kill you.
jihadwatcher on September 6, 2007 at 7:02 PM
Given experience with atheist members of congress (the only avowed atheist also being the most liberal), I’m sure it’d devolve into a right to have an iphone. so that might just work.
lorien1973 on September 6, 2007 at 7:03 PM
I think you’re serious.
Allahpundit on September 6, 2007 at 7:03 PM
Neither
Maxx on September 6, 2007 at 7:03 PM
Wow, 68% of people don’t know that Rudy is squarely pro-choice! Mitt is too weak to pound him on this, Fred just got in, so I guess Tanc will have to do it-if anyone will listem to him.
AZCON on September 6, 2007 at 7:04 PM
I think that improving story titles is the way to do it.
For instance, this thread is currently titled:
Pew poll: Which candidate would Americans prefer, an atheist or a Muslim?
I probably would have named it:
Atheist or Muslim for President?
More keywords, less words overall. Spiders likey!
lorien1973 on September 6, 2007 at 7:04 PM
If 2008 turns into an abortion debate; then this country has truly lost sight of what’s important.
lorien1973 on September 6, 2007 at 7:05 PM
AP 2008!!!
But seriously, McCain is the only potential front-runner that isn’t pro-choice or hasn’t recently flipped on abortion. Fred, Rudy, Romney…all have flipped.
Agreed. We’ve had Bush for 8 years, his father for 4, and Reagan for 8. Abortion is still legal.
amerpundit on September 6, 2007 at 7:08 PM
Haaa… Christians won in the “more likely to vote for” contest….. 19% more likely. But not nearly as high as I would have expected.
Maxx on September 6, 2007 at 7:08 PM
This is so depressing that I am going to strap on a bomb belt and go blow up a bunch of…
Oh wait, Atheists don’t do that. Never mind.
JayHaw Phrenzie on September 6, 2007 at 7:08 PM
I wouldn’t be surprised (I don’t have any numbers) if Hotair isn’t the only political blog with traffic down.
I think the political chatting has gone to simmer recently
but it will heat back up:)
terryannonline on September 6, 2007 at 7:09 PM
When did mccain become a front runner?
lorien1973 on September 6, 2007 at 7:11 PM
By the way, last night’s FN debate? Most watched debate of 2007. 3.1 million viewers, blowing Clinton’s appearance on Larry King (1.4 mill) out of the water. Drudge is running that now.
amerpundit on September 6, 2007 at 7:11 PM
Why would I do that? Christians rate well in this poll. You missed the point of my post. It’s atheism that smells bad to conservative America.
jihadwatcher on September 6, 2007 at 7:11 PM
Lorien, potential:
amerpundit on September 6, 2007 at 7:12 PM
And you can pretend like your not a jerk.
JayHaw Phrenzie on September 6, 2007 at 7:13 PM
Mine too. Of course, mine was crap to begin with, so…
amerpundit on September 6, 2007 at 7:13 PM
Let’s start a iPhone fund for our friend Allah.
At $1 a person, we’ll have that $300 by sundown.
I’ll throw in the first $10!
omnipotent on September 6, 2007 at 7:15 PM
They only polled bigots
right2bright on September 6, 2007 at 7:16 PM
.
Classic liberals are still Democrats, securalists are certainly democrats, and libertarians, like the Ron Paul crowd, are the blacksheep of the right.
Anyway, the point is that atheism is a political liability as this poll shows. Agnostic is fine, but atheism is a belief system, like scientology, and it rubs people the wrong way. Atheism, like homosexuality, should be kept in the closet if you are running for president.
jihadwatcher on September 6, 2007 at 7:22 PM
When the MSM wanted him to. They never understood that they don’t get to pick the Republican nominee. We do. By and large, we’ve had all kinds of problems with McCain for years, mostly due to his votes that buddied up to the Dems and MSM to appear as a ‘Maverick’.
bikermailman on September 6, 2007 at 7:26 PM
How about –
Fred!08 – He’s neither gay nor Godless
omnipotent on September 6, 2007 at 7:27 PM
As a Classical Liberal (ish) individual, I disagree.
Big S on September 6, 2007 at 7:28 PM
Abortion is not that big of an issue to me-kill all of the unborn you want and use your taxes to kill babies for those that can’t afford the convenience of it all. What happens between a Dr. and his/her patients is a private matter as long as the same numbers of people leave the room as went in, don’t you agree? I agree with Fred on this issue, that the states and their citizens can decide for themselves. The federal government and courts should stay out of it unless the Drs are shoving scissors up the back of the babies’ skulls after they emerge. I don’t believe we should force women and men to have unprotected sex, inconvenient lives, or regular check ups.
.
I would have been nice if the constitution said either “privacy is more important than life” or “life is more important than privacy”. But it does not. So Americans have to fall back on their religion, or lack of it for an answer, I think. Let your faith guide you, or be your own god and answer to nothing but yourself.
AZCON on September 6, 2007 at 7:28 PM
Wow. I was curious of that poll, but I thought Muslims would do worse than atheists. Then again, I guess no one feels ashamed of publicly discriminating against atheists.
frankj on September 6, 2007 at 7:32 PM
The man lives in NuYawk for crying out loud. A simple move to Jersey and he could afford 10 iPhones.
Limerick on September 6, 2007 at 7:35 PM
They should have asked:
“Would you be more likely to vote for someone who approved of cutting your head off for their religion, or someone with no religion?”
Let’s get it clearer.
AP-
Traffic tips: add words to titles like:
SEXY – HOT – PANTIES – WILD – DARING – ABREAST – COOL – NEW – and – BOOB
As in:
Harry Reid makes a DARING move to keep ABREAST of being a complete BOOB
Or:
COOL is HOT with SEXY NEW iPhone PANTIES holster.
Words to avoid:
Kiekegaard – Flatulence – Espitemology – Panegyric – Gypsum
profitsbeard on September 6, 2007 at 7:43 PM
Ouch, that’s gotta hurt.
omnipotent on September 6, 2007 at 7:51 PM
Maybe it’s not bigotry so much as the fact that so many athiests are condescending, obnoxious jerks about it. At least I’d consider that a possibility after seeing enough “You believe in god? LOL you’re stupid” posts.
And no, I’m not referring to anyone in particular, so don’t get your Godless panties in a bunch, athiests.
Hollowpoint on September 6, 2007 at 7:52 PM
I’m an Atheist cause God made me that way!
JayHaw Phrenzie on September 6, 2007 at 7:53 PM
I think a lot of front men for atheists are annoying jerks, and thus people will reject atheism because it appears that atheists are nothing but annoying, unhappy people based on those examples, but most of the Muslims we see are murderous, and you’d think that would be an even worst trait than being a prick.
frankj on September 6, 2007 at 8:04 PM
You’re saying that Islam isn’t a religion of peace? YOU BIGOTTED ATHIEST JERK!!!
Hollowpoint on September 6, 2007 at 8:08 PM
RE: Traffic is down?
Well it was getting to be a bit boring.
That sitemeter link at the bottom is kool.
But it tells me that people come to this blog to read one story, that was headlined somewhere else, and there are a few activists who are always here, all day long. Unless I’m misreading the data. How does sitemeter differentiate between a user who reads a post, then reads another post, then posts a comment, then re reads that same post for replies to said comment?
So the problem then would be attracting readers, and holding their interest. Yes?
How does one propose to do that, eh?
Wait, the topic was . . . . uh. . . poll!
Comment: apropos poll; “Itsa POLL!”
More astounding, people spend money to do’m, and other people spend big bucks for the results. Seems like that could be a story.
rockhauler on September 6, 2007 at 8:09 PM
Profitsbeard is onto something, Allah. I think those are great ideas!
Troy Rasmussen on September 6, 2007 at 8:10 PM
One problem is that Atheist conjures up bad images for people: they think of militant atheists. I think most people wouldn’t care about those who are functionally agnostic/atheist but who don’t devote their spare time to anti-theist polemics.
Modern people don’t much like street preachers whether religious or irreligious. But the religious people that I know don’t generally shun baptized but non-practicing Catholics.
I’m more concerned about how our political system gives us such mediocrities as candidates for president from both parties.
jaychandra on September 6, 2007 at 8:22 PM
Finally.
A funny atheist post.
Dude, the Jews have got you by 50 points. Heh.
Jaibones on September 6, 2007 at 8:23 PM
I could see AP’s atheist platform:
If nominated, I will not run.
If elected, I will not serve.
Kini on September 6, 2007 at 8:24 PM
Now, I wonder where tf anyone would get that idea?
Jaibones on September 6, 2007 at 8:25 PM
That would be more accurate, yet not entirely true. While I have given up on the modern Democratic party, being the panty waists and alarmists that they are, the Bush Administration has not exactly influenced me to switch parties. The Blue Dogs appear to migrate to the right simply because the ruling Dems have moved so far left.
SouthernDem on September 6, 2007 at 8:30 PM
By the way, unless I’m reading it incorrectly, according to Sitemeter August was the biggest month over the past year for visits. Weren’t you frequently saying the traffic was down then as well? Of course, I don’t know how this internet thingy works anyway.
SouthernDem on September 6, 2007 at 8:36 PM
People are strange.
Atheists, although they may like to “shoot their mouths off” at times, I know that I do, do not want to impose their non religion on others.
Muslims do want to impose their religion on others with all that entails.
People are strange.
MB4 on September 6, 2007 at 8:36 PM
RockHauler, all this time I’ve been comin’ here I never noticed the SiteMeter. Thanks! It’s very interesting.
According to the 12 month chart, HotAir traffic is goin’ up.
Tony737 on September 6, 2007 at 8:42 PM
RockHauler, all this time I’ve been comin’ here I never noticed the SiteMeter. Thanks! It’s very interesting.
According to the 12 month chart, HotAir traffic is goin’ up.
Tony737 on September 6, 2007 at 8:42 PM
I could see AP’s atheist platform:
If nominated for Pope, I will not
runpray.If elected as Pope, I will not
servego to mass.MB4 on September 6, 2007 at 8:42 PM
I could see AP’s atheist platform:
If nominated for Pope, I will not
runpray.If elected as Pope, I will not serve go to mass
MB4 on September 6, 2007 at 8:42 PM
Atheists less than a Muslim? I’d rather have an atheist than ANY religious fanatic, regardless of their faith. They are more level headed and able to focus on concepts that religious folks automatically refer to scripture for.
I don’t want a theocracy, I want a secular government that respects the rights of peaceful religions.
csdeven on September 6, 2007 at 8:42 PM
There are more functional atheists than the militant kind. Britain is largely unchurched these days but people don’t go out of their way to think at length about whether there is or is not a God and how they should therefore live their lives. Much the same of the non-churchgoing in the U.S., though a larger portion of our populace still goes to worship services.
jaychandra on September 6, 2007 at 8:42 PM
What is this, Day of the Stupid polls? First the Zogby nonsense and now this? This is a classic example of people telling pollsters what they think they should say. I don’t believe for a minute that half of Americans really, honestly, in the privacy of the voting booth, think that a candidate being a Muslim would make “no difference”. The people answering these silly poll questions just don’t want to seem like a “bigot” (whatever that means in this day and age).
Thomas the Wraith on September 6, 2007 at 8:43 PM
What the ??? Sorry ’bout that.
Tony737 on September 6, 2007 at 8:43 PM
What do you suppose is causing that? Do you think it’s this large pile of ravings written by miscellaneous cranks in the comment area? Like:
Personally, I think they’re entertaining. Like going to a circus every day. I think you removed a comment of mine the other day, so I’d include myself.
jaime on September 6, 2007 at 8:43 PM
Why atheist are somehow more offenseive then a different religion that has totally confliting views to the one you are in, I guess I dont understand. If Catholics, for example, think they have more in common with Muslims then atheists, they really are out to lunch philosophically.
Resolute on September 6, 2007 at 8:43 PM
I just don’t understand how the ‘Evangelical Christians’ are at 16% less likely to be elected.
Once again I don’t understand the definition of ‘evangelical’ so I’m assuming they mean ‘Protestant’. The problem is that EVERY PRESIDENT IN HISTORY except ONE (Kennedy) would be considered ‘evangelical’ yet 16% of people would be LESS LIKELY to vote for that person.
You would think most of the Presidents would have been Catholic since only 7% say that would make them less likely to vote for the person. . . yet only one Catholic. Even Jews rank better on the ‘less likely’ and there have been NO JEWISH PRESIDENTS.
This poll doesn’t make sense. I don’t think the people polled understood the question. I sure don’t understand the results in a historical context.
ThackerAgency on September 6, 2007 at 8:44 PM
Heh!
I’m your top prime cut of meat, I’m your choice
I wanna be elected
I’m your yankee doodle dandy in a gold environmentally unfriendly Rolls Royce
I wanna be elected
Kids want a atheist, don’t need to believe
I wanna be elected
Kini on September 6, 2007 at 8:47 PM
Kini on September 6, 2007 at 8:47 PM
Well you already sound better to me than all the Democrat candidates and most of the Republican candidates!
MB4 on September 6, 2007 at 9:06 PM
Perhaps the masses are more inclined to support a leader who is submitted to some authority higher than himself, even if that authority is Allah.
Faith conveys a person’s humility which is an essential trait in a good leader.
Valiant on September 6, 2007 at 9:11 PM
I’ve never known “evangelical” to be synonymous with “protestant”.
Evangelicals are a sub-branch of the protestant family, however, the term protestant evokes images of WASPy congregations singing hymns to organ music – the sorts of people that dust of their Bible on Sunday before they go to church and then put it back on the shelf again as soon as they get home. In other words, people that believe, but in a way that is very innocuous and non-threatening.
On the other hand, evangelical evokes images that, at their least ‘threatening’ involve people that are going to church on Sunday, reading the Bible each day, praying before every meal, sending out missionaries, going to a Bible study once a week – in other words, “true” believers that might try to convert you. At the more extreme end, evangelical brings to mind people rolling on the floor, speaking in tongues, dancing with rattle snakes and all the other ‘wierd’ things you hear about “extreme Christians”.
In other words, for most people (whether fair or not) Protestant = a safe, bland, acceptable form of worship and Evangelical = fundamental Christians (at a time when Americans tend to be suspicious of all religious fundamentalists).
That’s probably why you’ve got 16% of the population saying they would be less likely to vote for an Evangelical.
JadeNYU on September 6, 2007 at 9:11 PM
Thanks, and my platform with be:
I promise you dis, dat and de udder ting!
Kini on September 6, 2007 at 9:19 PM
JadeNYU on September 6, 2007 at 9:11 PM
Thank you for your thoughtful response Jade. I too would be inclined to believe the same thing. HOWEVER, the problem is that this poll seemed to attempt to categorize all the major religious affiliations represented in America.
They didn’t include ‘Protestant’ in this poll. . . or more to the point ‘inter-denominational Christian’. I think it ‘evangelical’ is a movement from out west. They fired that guy (head of some ‘evangelical counsil’) who I had never heard of for being gay or something in Colorado or somewhere like that.
I truly believe that this is an attempt to characterize all Protestants in a ‘fanatical’ light. The media attempted to bring down the Catholic Church in America with the Priest Sex Scandal, but that didn’t touch the non-Catholic Christian community.
This term is new to me. I’m a Christian and have been all my life. I am non-denominational and don’t personally have a problem with the term ‘evangelical’. HOWEVER, in national polls like this, the inclusion of ‘evangelical’ with the exclusion of any other category of inter-denominational non-Catholic Christian makes me feel like something else is going on.
I’ll agree with your assessment that it is a subset of Christians. But in this poll, where are the other non-evangelical Christians who are not also Catholic? That is my point. According to your definition, most of the past presidents’ faith is not addressed in this poll. Why would they do that? That is my point.
ThackerAgency on September 6, 2007 at 9:32 PM
I think that pretty much hits the nail on the head. The average American is completely blind to the threat (Most of the politically active left is aware but chooses to ignore it). They get constant news pieces about ‘religion of peace’ distorting the threat, and CAIR press releases on ‘islamophobia’ that aim to keep those who are informed from doing anything about it.
As for the poll, muslim is the only thing on there that would make me less likely to support. The only time I ever have a problem with atheists is when they talk down to me.
BadgerHawk on September 6, 2007 at 9:35 PM
And your point is? OF COURSE atheists are persecuted — and rightly so.
After all, Jihadists ONLY want to kill the PEOPLE of Western Civilization, while atheists really don’t CARE whether people are alive or dead — just as long as all of their hope for the future has been destroyed. The atheist wants everyone to live their lives lingering in a meaningless zombie like state, more dead than alive really — unless, of course, someone has the audacity to openly disagree with their atheist dogma, in which case, the atheist does not hesitate to kill or imprison any individual that opposes them (the Stalinist purges and Mao’s cultural revolution come to mind). With THAT kind of historical legacy, how can you not EXPECT persecution?
What I want to know is WHY are all the atheists that I’ve met in my life such intolerant, angry, hate-filled individuals?
My collie says:
CyberCipher on September 6, 2007 at 9:42 PM
Then again, I guess no one feels ashamed of publicly discriminating against atheists.
Yeah.
Nobody is comfortable stating that they wouldn’t want to vote for a muslim, because that seems bigoted. But I bet actual election results would be quite different from this poll.
sandberg on September 6, 2007 at 9:46 PM
I feel left out… why do the Agnostics never get a voice?
Kaptain Amerika on September 6, 2007 at 9:50 PM
Yeah, mine too. My traffic is pitiful lately, doesn’t help that I’m not finding good stories to submit to Ace and Hotair.
This is I think where most people get such a sour view of Atheists. Most people who see atheism see obnoxious tools like Dawkins or Hitch, slimy abusive punks like Michael Newdow, or sneering pricks online.
Bad Candy on September 6, 2007 at 9:57 PM
Well, I still have around a decade left until I can run for president, hopefully atheists will be more en vogue by that time… Seriously America, you’d rather have a Muslim than an atheist president? I’m pretty damn sure we’ve already had a few atheist presidents…
Seixon on September 6, 2007 at 10:04 PM
I hate to harp on this again, but I feel a need to clarify my thoughts here. Billy Graham was considered an ‘Evangelist’. I took that to mean someone who told other people the Gospel. However with that definition, I would think that Catholics would also be ‘evangelical’ too. As far as I know, they evangelize (preach the Gospel) all over the world too.
Further analysis of the poll shows they excluded ‘men’ from the poll as well. All Presidents were men. So maybe they just didn’t put in the obviously OK ones. But that would indicate that ‘evangelical’ is not ‘obviously’ OK. I just think the category and term is misleading. Are Baptists evangelical? Presbyterians? Methodists? Episcopalian? Greek Orthodox? Lutheran? There are different designations and I know several differences in their beliefs. I don’t know the definition of ‘evangelical’.
ThackerAgency on September 6, 2007 at 10:09 PM
I’m pretty damn sure we’ve already had a few atheist presidents…
Seixon on September 6, 2007 at 10:04 PM
BINGO!
MB4 on September 6, 2007 at 10:11 PM
I wouldn’t put alot of stock into it to be honest. The poll is very odd on many levels. 3000 people surveyed but the results are based on only those that could actually rate the item in question(
Pam on September 6, 2007 at 10:12 PM
No atheists, no muslims end of vote. next topic.
MNDavenotPC on September 6, 2007 at 10:17 PM
I didn’t think we’ve had atheist presidents, we had Deist presidents in the early years, I know a lot of atheists argue they were atheists.
Bad Candy on September 6, 2007 at 10:18 PM
Just goes to show you how people really are ignorant of islam and the koran teachings. How stupid..it should be 99.9 percent say hell no to a muslim cultist. I wouldn’t want some mooney cultist either in power. Atleast a mooney doesn’t want to cut my head off or have a koran that says to.
I put no stock in polls really. I’ve seen enough in my lifetime of skewing results..where they happen to take the poll, they discount certain people who say certain things (I’ve personally had this done), etc…
Call me skeptical but one thing I do know due to my experience is not enough people know islam is not a religion of peace.
Highrise on September 6, 2007 at 10:25 PM
Maybe we athiests would do better if we played the game a little better. There are some awfully vague definitions of God out there, and if your actual religion doesn’t matter, why not reframe the athiestic language about the “big unknowns” in different language? It’s like when they hear us say we don’t believe in God that we must not even be human, because humans seem to need for God to exist – emotionally that is.
peski on September 6, 2007 at 10:49 PM
No atheists, no muslims end of vote. next topic.
MNDavenotPC
Well, that sure would be an interesting constitutional amendment.
Krydor on September 6, 2007 at 10:54 PM
Wanna help yourselves PR-wise, don’t let pricks like Hitch be your representative, and get the evangelical atheist acolytes to quit sneering at decent people who believe in God and would be ambivalent or even friendly with atheists if it weren’t for the constant abuse they get from atheists. Lastly, keep retards like Michael Newdow from antagonizing benign old religious symbols.
Bad Candy on September 6, 2007 at 10:57 PM
I call bull crap on this. Those who live in glass “God” houses have no room to espouse. Being an athiest does NOT mean that we want all people to follow in our path. We just don’t want religion shoved down our throat.
Aggie85 on September 6, 2007 at 10:58 PM
There are some awfully vague definitions of God out there, and if your actual religion doesn’t matter, why not reframe the athiestic language about the “big unknowns” in different language?
peski on September 6, 2007 at 10:49 PM
I think that is probably why some people call themselves spiritualists.
I recall my mother saying that she believed in God, but that God was the Universe and not a personal God.
MB4 on September 6, 2007 at 10:59 PM
Religion is BS.
*runs*
Seixon on September 6, 2007 at 11:01 PM
Last time I checked, it wasn’t radical athiests blowing people up……
Aggie85 on September 6, 2007 at 11:02 PM
Bad Candy,
Sounds like a deal. If you muzzle a whole spate of evangelical Christians who spew more hate than love in the name of Jesus, then we might be on to something.
Krydor on September 6, 2007 at 11:06 PM
No
atheistsChristians, nomuslimsJewsend of voteoff with their heads. nexttopicInfidel.MNDavenotPC
Well, that sure would be an
interesting constitutional amendmentnormal Sharia law.Krydor on September 6, 2007 at 10:54 PM
MB4 on September 6, 2007 at 11:06 PM
go with the Athiest, the lost. There is still hope for him.
shooter on September 6, 2007 at 11:20 PM
Well said.
We have a bit of a chicken and egg thing going on here. But I agree with this, too. Guilty on both counts.
Jaibones on September 6, 2007 at 11:41 PM
Islam wants to shove cult down our throats.
That to me …trumps all.
Eff the islamists..hands down. That is our threat..it’s our heads…or theirs.
Pick.
Highrise on September 7, 2007 at 12:24 AM
“Religion is regarded by the common as true, by the wise as false, and by the leaders as useful”
- Seneca the Younger
MB4 on September 7, 2007 at 12:37 AM
Seneca has some of the most awesome quotes ever.
Nonfactor on September 7, 2007 at 12:44 AM
I’d vote for the atheist, myself. Call me an islamophobe if you want, but Ellison kinda pissed me off.
RedCrow on September 7, 2007 at 1:25 AM
This is because atheists do not lie about their beliefs
entagor on September 7, 2007 at 2:20 AM
Indianapolis Colts
playingdestroying theNew Orleans Saints. That is why you haven’t got your “page views” from me tonight.
I will make up for it tomorrow.
ColtsFan on September 7, 2007 at 2:46 AM
Would they vote for a pantheist, though?
And, if so, would they then be voting for themselves?
God alone can answer that.
profitsbeard on September 7, 2007 at 2:55 AM
AP: headline rewrite
(for google traffic flypaper)-
SEXY Pew Poll: Which DARING Candidate would American BOOBS get HOT for: a WILD atheist, or a PANTIES-wearing Muslim?
profitsbeard on September 7, 2007 at 2:59 AM
This is because atheists do not lie about their beliefs
entagor on September 7, 2007 at 2:20 AM
That is an excellent point! Obvious once you think of it, but excellent!
MB4 on September 7, 2007 at 3:04 AM
Heck, I’d prefer an avowed satanist to a muslim… The satanists tend to want to only do ONE sacrifice at a time, as opposed to the tens, hundreds or thousands of sacrifices that the muslims prefer…. Even though they DO worship the same entity.
LegendHasIt on September 7, 2007 at 4:13 AM
Your original point – that at least in some contexts, ‘Evangelical’ has an objective definition and/or is synonymous with ‘Protestant’ – is valid. In parts of Europe the two are indeed synoymous, and ‘evangelical’ is not directly associated with active evangelism of the Gospel.
Not that this factored into the Zogby poll in any way :-)
RD on September 7, 2007 at 5:04 AM
Comment pages: 1 2 Next »