Open thread: Fred announces on Leno; Update: Web announcement video now live; Update: Leno announcement video added
posted at 11:12 pm on September 5, 2007 by Allahpundit
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Late night for the big A. If you’re staying up for it, feel free to sound off. If you just can’t be bothered, Geraghty has a sneak peek at the transcript. We’ll have the clip, of course, as well as the link to the 15-minute web video officially launching the campaign as soon as it goes live after midnight.
Update: It’s not 12:01 yet but the video’s live at Fred ‘08. Here’s the YouTube version. I’ll have comments after Leno.
Update: Re: the web announcement video, that’s a lot of talking, son, and a lot of talking points, all of it synced up with head-bob choreography. I thought he’d start with a minute or so of addressing the camera and then segue into 10 minutes of video biography, a la McCain’s recent Vietnam ad, but on and on he goes. Clearly he’s trying to leverage the success he’s had with his radio commentaries: no frills, just a straight shooter calling it like he sees it, sans gimmicks — a neat trick for a Hollywood actor delivering a 15-minute oration with stagy head turns at key moments built in. The sheer volume of information and the pace at which he runs through it is daunting, though. God, family, peace with honor, secure borders, small government, a frisson of horror at the thought of another Clinton administration — it’s all in there, but it’s a lot to digest in one go and he seems to be rushing to shoehorn it all into the time available. How many people will sit through the whole thing?
Doesn’t much matter. He’s trying to make an impression and an extended Reaganesque soliloquy does that, at least. Thank god he’s in a den in a suit and tie, too. If he tried this in a denim shirt with the pick-up truck in the background, I’d be heading for the lifeboats.
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Jeri told him white shoes give him gravitas – she saw it on a lifetime movie one time.
Bradky on September 6, 2007 at 1:13 AM
See the difference cs? It isn’t much. Sure Fred! is my candidate of choice right now but that doesn’t make my eyes bulge when someone says Mitt! is ok, or Rudy!, or McCain!.
Now paul; might get a reaction out of me, but my horse is the Party. You get too darn personal in the attacks. We get along otherwise but I just have to say it to you. A good bar fight is fine, but leave the knives and clubs in the car.
Limerick on September 6, 2007 at 1:17 AM
Hey what can I say, its not my fault that the candidate who refused to start campaigning a full year early managed to reach second place without even campaigning, or that when he finally did announce he walked right straight into first place as the number on candidate for the GOP. Hell’s its not even my fault that the guy wins debates without even opening his mouth or bothering to show up.
doriangrey on September 6, 2007 at 1:20 AM
I guess you missed the video posted at the top of this page where Fred talked directly into the camera for 15 minutes. Or maybe you thought the subjects he talked about are stale.
Which candidate do you support, thedecider? Surely one that’s talked directly into the camera for more than 15 minutes at a stretch.
jaime on September 6, 2007 at 1:20 AM
Ugh! Yawn of the Fred is no Reagan. Reagan would not have waited to enter the debate, and would have offered much more substantive ideas than too-late-Fred has had to offer to this point.
thedecider on September 6, 2007 at 1:22 AM
A good bar fight is fine, but leave the knives and clubs in the car.
Prudent warrior never bring knife or club to gun fight.
- Suns Tzu’s nephew’s bodyguard
MB4 on September 6, 2007 at 1:22 AM
Watched it all on NRO. I’ve seen some pretty poor interviews of candidates on late night TV.
Is he inspiring enought to win voters over? He doesn’t strike me as inspiring. He strikes me as “down home” comfortable with himself (something Edwards and Romney are not). And he doesn’t seem to have a chip on his sholder like McCain has, nor does he come across as having to prove something to you as Guliani does. So I would say, Fred definately won the night.
At least that is my opionion.
We will have to watch and see how things go.
bnelson44 on September 6, 2007 at 1:25 AM
You keep telling yourself that, it wont make it true but at least you will feel better. Reagan was his own candidate and just like Fred ran his campaign the way he saw fit, not the way his political opponents or a bunch of instant gratification internet political junkies thought he should have.
doriangrey on September 6, 2007 at 1:26 AM
jihadwatcher on September 6, 2007 at 1:27 AM
It Fred evah says something like Vote or Die, then I’ll club myself to death.
Kini on September 6, 2007 at 1:27 AM
heh . . . so much Fred! coverage CSdeven and amerpundit are struggling to keep up.
I love it.
P.S. – CS, I saw your newly shortened list of Fred! “negatives” above. What happened to your prior list including items 1 – 10:
1. He’s a faker
2. He’s a faker
3. He’s a faker
4. He’s a faking faker
5. – 10. etc.
The Ritz on September 6, 2007 at 1:30 AM
An excellent question. I’m not yet firm on which candidate I support but you can bet I will not support a late entrant who has not (to this point) submitted his platform on the economy, the war on terror, immigration, taxes, or, frankly anything substantive. I know much more about the candidates who had the b@lls to show up for tonight’s debate than I know about the celebrated Fred who has offered nothing of substance for us to think about other than sound bytes and platitudes. I have no respect for someone dissing a debate with his competitors for any reason. Frankly, my opinion of Fred at this point is that he is a coward whose opinions are formed more by surveys and campaign managers than any internal or practical ability to lead a nation. Can you tell us what Fred’s positions are on the economy, the war on terror, immigration, or taxes? Has he offered anything of substance that really makes you understand where he stands on these issues? Don’t bother quoting his sound-bytes as we’re really looking for substance which he has yet to offer.
thedecider on September 6, 2007 at 1:30 AM
jihadwatcher on September 6, 2007 at 1:27 AM
Had to make that just a little more accurate…
doriangrey on September 6, 2007 at 1:30 AM
I thought the video was pretty good. He said all the right things. The only question mark now is how good will he be in a debate. If he is good at that, he is the next POTUS. If not, say hello to Hillary and Bill again.
jihadwatcher on September 6, 2007 at 1:31 AM
I hope he’s really running to be Rudy’s VP. Otherwise, the GOP has just split itself up even more.
Halley on September 6, 2007 at 1:31 AM
heh . . . so much Fred! coverage CSdeven and amerpundit are struggling to keep up.
I love it.
Well after jihadwatcher found that newspaper clipping about Fred running over csdevens dog…
doriangrey on September 6, 2007 at 1:33 AM
Tell us about the “internet political junkies” Reagan had to deal with who thought he should have ran his campaign another way? I’m really interested in your take on that since you feel it’s such an important point.
thedecider on September 6, 2007 at 1:34 AM
Halley, he has already said he is not interested in a supporting role. And at his age, I don’t blame him. Rudy feels the same way. They are two alpha males.
jihadwatcher on September 6, 2007 at 1:34 AM
I just watched his 15 min clip. Straight-up: He’s got himself a good speech writer.
Spirit of 1776 on September 6, 2007 at 1:34 AM
But he’s dead-on right about the so-called stupid “debates”. Glad to hear someone finally tell the truth about those charades.
Halley on September 6, 2007 at 1:35 AM
Only a Fred groupie could say something like that with a straight face. Reminds me of those Moonies that used to hang around at the airports.
Bradky on September 6, 2007 at 1:38 AM
So you don’t really have a dog in this fight. (sorry Mike Vick) You’re just here taking pot shots. Sort of like a moby.
Don’t tell us you’re dissing [this] debate by showing up without a competitor.
jaime on September 6, 2007 at 1:38 AM
Having trouble getting oxygen to your brain eh? That was a rather obvious obsequious reference to the blogging community and the attempt by many therein to ensure that the campaign for POTUS becomes a 24/7 none stop event starting before a POTUS is elected and, well never stopping.
doriangrey on September 6, 2007 at 1:40 AM
Fred! does know how to play the set piece battle. His public speaking does however worry me (as has been pointed out by many here who don’t like the man). It is those moments that the media is going to put on the plate of the American voter. We electron junkies might swoon over a good speech but the main-street voter is going to get shown 15 second evening news reports of Fred!said this or Fred! didn’t say that. A bit of McCain’s ‘Little Jerk’ personality needs to work it’s way to the surface. That will bring main-street in to listen.
Limerick on September 6, 2007 at 1:40 AM
Anyone who could deny it with a straight face seriously resembles a Ronbot…
doriangrey on September 6, 2007 at 1:42 AM
I like being an electron junkie. Kind of balances out my protons.
jaime on September 6, 2007 at 1:43 AM
Just wait till I see you at the next internet junkies anonymous meeting!
Bradky on September 6, 2007 at 1:45 AM
Right on, Limerick. This speech was all the right notes; makes me wonder if the meeting with Newt was more than tea and crumpets.
Spirit of 1776 on September 6, 2007 at 1:46 AM
I never join any club that would have me for a member…
doriangrey on September 6, 2007 at 1:46 AM
No, in fact, it was your attempt to compare the glorious campaign of Fred to Reagan. No comparison. The blogosphere was not around in Reagan’s time as it is today so your argument is factless and baseless.
thedecider on September 6, 2007 at 1:46 AM
Wax on! Wax off!…..Here is to the fight. We are going to need all the electrons and protons to pull this election out.
Limerick on September 6, 2007 at 1:46 AM
If you get a chance to browse through Robert Novak’s book “The Prince of Darkness” take a good look at his reporting on Newt. You may be disappointed.
Bradky on September 6, 2007 at 1:49 AM
Well who’s your dog jaime? Is it the worshipful Fred? Unlike many on this blog, I don’t find a single candidate that has all the attributes I really seek in a POTUS. I’m waiting for the debates to continue – not just among the Republican candidates, but also how they fare among their Democratic opponents. I want a Republican winner. I’m so far leaning toward Rudy, John, and Mitt. They need to convince me and the debate is still on. It’s wait-and-see time, and Fred has been lackluster all the way.
thedecider on September 6, 2007 at 1:51 AM
Amen, brother. Conservatives forever!
jaime on September 6, 2007 at 1:51 AM
I’ll take the tip, thanks. Disappointed in regard to what?
Spirit of 1776 on September 6, 2007 at 1:51 AM
I took all my hopes over to Old Man Fred
You know that actor with the gold-capped life
He’s got friends down on Thirty-Fourth and K
Peddling little bottles of Fred’s Presidential Potion Number Nine
I told him that the other candidates were a flop with me
It’s been that way sine 1988
He looked me in the face and he made a magic sign
He said “What you need is Fred’s Presidential Potion Number Nine”
He stooped down real slowly and gave me a nod
He said “I’m gonna make it up real quick right here in the sink”
It smelled real old, it looked like runny ink
I held my nose, I closed my eyes, I took a drink
I didn’t know if it was day or night
I started kissin’ everything Fred in sight
But when I kissed a lobbyist down on Thirty-Fourth and K
It broke my little bottle of Fred’s Presidential Potion Number Nine
—— guitar solo ——
I held my nose, I closed my eyes, I took a drink
I didn’t know if it was day or night
I started kissin’ everything Fred in sight
But when I kissed a lobbyist down on Thirty-Fourth and K
It broke my little bottle of Fred’s Presidential Potion Number Nine
Fred’s Presidential Potion Number Nine
Fred’s Presidential Potion Number Nine
Fred’s Presidential Potion Number Nine
MB4 on September 6, 2007 at 1:54 AM
According to Novak’s account Newt backed off pretty quickly from his contract with America and caved on some significant issues. He felt after two years of being Speaker he had done as much as he could.
Just got the impression he was a lot more talk than action/substance.
Bradky on September 6, 2007 at 1:54 AM
Ya’ll happy now? Bitching about when Fred will make the announcement? And Fred made a poignant point about people who say they won’t vote for him because he waited too long with the shake of head with a bit of a quizzical look on his face.
Now that Fred is running, go fill up his campaign coffer of his.
Kokonut on September 6, 2007 at 1:56 AM
In any event I’d recommend the book to any political junkies. Pretty fascinating behind the scenes info from JFK to Bush Jr. And an interesting insight into the journalism world.
Bradky on September 6, 2007 at 1:58 AM
Ah, I follow you. For my part, I merely meant that Newt is a master of the rhetoric, and was wondering if perhaps that is his investment into the Fred campaign. I thought he hit the high notes in that 15min bit pretty well, and I don’t really think that’s him. Otherwise he’d have been better on any of the extemporaneous opportunities he’s had. A debate, which he has wisely avoided, will bear it out. Ironically, I highly doubt the L-D debate type, which is not going to happen so it’s a safe statement for him, would make him look good at all.
Spirit of 1776 on September 6, 2007 at 2:01 AM
*would not. Sorry left that out there
Spirit of 1776 on September 6, 2007 at 2:02 AM
I’m not a big Novak fan, but I’ll check it out. Thanks. Have a good night.
Spirit of 1776 on September 6, 2007 at 2:04 AM
I just spent 10 minutes writing, after a couple of bon mots, my personal philosophy on domestic policy. When I was back-spacing through some text I was thown out of the window. Sorry for the delay, thedecider.
It’s late and I’m frustrated, so I may not get back to it tonight. If not, we’ll catch up to each other again soon.
jaime on September 6, 2007 at 2:09 AM
Watching the campaign video I can’t see where his position on any issue is in doubt. Borders to health care. Taxes to defense. Iraq to energy production. Seemed pretty clear to me.
That said it is now trip-him-up time for the media and other candidates. How he handles himself with that will tell the story. If he handles himself like he did in that video then from Polk Street to Chappaquiddick the liberals will be coming unglued.
Ok…where did I put the checkbook?……..
Limerick on September 6, 2007 at 2:11 AM
Anybody else notice how jerky Fred’s movements were in his announcement video?
Unless it’s an artifact from being uploaded to YouTube, my guess is that Fred’s monologue went longer than they expected and the editing team sped the video up a bit to shorten it. Sometimes you can get away with it, other times not.
A shame too, as the visual distracts from what is quite a lot of good content.
Harpazo on September 6, 2007 at 2:21 AM
Now that Fred! is officially in the race, I have my check ready to send to his campaign. But wait a minute, what about all the substantive criticism about him:
He’s a habitual liar
His head bobs
He slaps his knee
He’s too thin
His skin is saggy
He’s lazy
He’s just an actor reading lines
He has a trophy wife who is a trollup
He has a bitchy wife who is screwing up his campaign
He owns a red truck that he doesn’t really drive
He is folksy
He says um and ah too much
He’s late to the party
He never says anything specific
He took so long deciding to run, he will never make a pressure decision
He rides in a golf cart
He wears nice shoes to the fair
Well, damn. Who should I send this check to instead. Hmmmmmmm. Aw what the hell, here it comes Fred! Go get ‘em!
Mallard T. Drake on September 6, 2007 at 2:22 AM
Groucho forever!
Mallard T. Drake on September 6, 2007 at 2:24 AM
Doriagrey, enjoy it while it lasts.
Christoph on September 6, 2007 at 2:32 AM
Factless and baseless? Dorangrey?
No…
Christoph on September 6, 2007 at 2:35 AM
Sorry to come late to the party. It’s been a Ron Paul kind of night at work around here but I did get to see Fred’s announcement and watch his ad.
In fact everyone at work gathered around the TV to see Fred on Leno, DEM and REP alike. Nobody but myself had bothered to watch the debate tonight but everyone knew that Fred Thompson was going to announce on Leno and he did well with this small crowd.
Honestly I think he’ll do well with a whole lot of people who aren’t satisfied with their choices from both parties. I know he covered a lot of points tonight that rekindled my interest in him. Now if he’d just name Tancredo as his VP and put him in charge of the border and illegal immigration.
Buzzy on September 6, 2007 at 2:40 AM
I hope he does okay in a sense, I just worry that he may not have the energy and sharpness left to actually be a good president.
He’s welcome to show he has it though. That’s what the campaign is for.
Christoph on September 6, 2007 at 2:49 AM
On Leno, Fred looked about 90 years old and his throat clearing/coughing made him seem quite sickly. Does the GOP really want to nominate a corpse?
The Sinner on September 6, 2007 at 3:07 AM
Got my bumper stickers in the mail today. On the car tomorrow.
Connie on September 6, 2007 at 3:12 AM
I can’t believe I’m saying this, but I’m really, really like Fred right now…
Patriot33 on September 6, 2007 at 3:26 AM
Fred made a great point about France and the common person at the end. Well done.
Christoph on September 6, 2007 at 3:38 AM
Bwaaahhhh
http://www.allahpundit.com/archives/000702.html
William Amos on September 6, 2007 at 3:54 AM
Fred
?! Did pretty good on Leno… How many Republicans get ANY applause there… much less such an astounding lack of boos, on Leno (Which is admittedly a LITTLE less lefty than Letterman)??While I was pretty much a Fred!Head at the beginning (since ~1995, actually), I have to admit that I have lost a little confidence in him the last couple of months, even if I DO sorta understand his strategy.
Well, whatever… His style may not impress a lot of the political cognoscenti here at Hot Air and other places…. But I think it will hit a real good note with a lot of older voters whether they have a clue about who he is or not….. As well as with a lot of TV junkies of any age that are Law & Order and his movie fans.
Time will tell if he has ‘the Right Stuff’ To win the Presidency. I kind of think he had the best shot at it, given everything. By my analysis, it is his to win (or lose) as it stands now. The next few months will determine whether he has my enthusiastic support or my reluctant support, but either way, I think he will be a force to be reckoned with.
I’m anxious to see him in a debate with the other guys and taking the hard questions from the media. I think he will do MUCH better than the “Fred?haters” expect….
Time will tell.
LegendHasIt on September 6, 2007 at 4:33 AM
LegendHasit, who hates Fred? We’ve found his performance disappointing, as have you.
Christoph on September 6, 2007 at 4:56 AM
Well, that was fun, especially the JayWalking part.
It’s gonna be a fun rest of the week.
Kini on September 6, 2007 at 5:15 AM
Better late than never… Conservative politics forever…!
Rugged Individual on September 6, 2007 at 5:28 AM
Oh, I reckon there are a few ‘Fredh8rz here’. A couple that are probably honest enough to admit it if really pressed, a couple more that probably wouldn’t. Even of them, I imagine that most of them that are ‘conservatives’ would vote for him (reluctantly) if he got the nomination.
It’s going to be interesting.
LegendHasIt on September 6, 2007 at 5:54 AM
Why would anyone hate Fred? What for? Name me one person here who hates Fred — just a sample size of one. Establish that and I’ll consider your point made.
Christoph on September 6, 2007 at 6:01 AM
Knock it off!
Ya know, baldilocks, people like you cause a lot of problems. Thanks to the older brothers teasing, my youngest son still whines about having to wait until December for his birthday. He’s 20. Scarred for life.
IrishEi on September 6, 2007 at 6:14 AM
I’m not going to bother watching Fred’s 15 minute scripted speech. It wont be anything new and wont be anything any other candidate would say. I wouldn’t watch 15 minutes of this kind of stuff from any candidate.
Fred says he will be in Iowa, NH, and SC over the next 7 days. If he’ll engage folks like Mitt is doing, then he’ll gain some viability. If he’s gonna pull a Hillary and stage scripted events with no possibility of surprises, well, he’ll just reinforce the image of the scared candidate.
csdeven on September 6, 2007 at 6:15 AM
Whoa, LegendHasit, we may not have a Fred hater, but we certainly have an ignorant close-minded shill for Mitt Romney.
To wit, csdeven.
Christoph on September 6, 2007 at 6:18 AM
Again, you have no clue whom I support.
csdeven on September 6, 2007 at 6:53 AM
Never make the mistake of confusing disgust for hate.
csdeven on September 6, 2007 at 6:55 AM
Wait a minute. You’ve been harping on him for MONTHS about not getting into the race. Now he has, and you don’t have 15 minutes???
I mean, you probably spend several hours a day writing about him on here alone (who knows how much you do elsewhere). I’m sure you can scrounge up fifteen minutes today to watch it. After all, it’s what you’ve been waiting for.
Darksean on September 6, 2007 at 7:34 AM
I just watched the video on Fred08, and I have to say that I think I learned more about Fred’s beliefs as a conservative in that 14 minutes, than I have about all the other candidates in the debates, with 30 second or 1 minute responses.
He laid it out clearly, and genuinely made me like him, and want to vote for him.
Now, I’d like to see him in a debate. But, I agree that the format we have right now with 10 people or so is pretty lame. Thin it out – though leave Ron Paul, I’d love to see Fred give him the smackdown.
nailinmyeye on September 6, 2007 at 7:39 AM
I just saw the video. GOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!
It may be 15 minutes, but it goes by fast. Federalism, small gov’t, low taxes, State/local/parental control of education (did I get a whiff of vouchers there), strong military, keep on offense in Iraq, Afghanistan, and in the WOT in general, keep health care private and make it easier for folks to insure themselves, strong borders, originalist judges, and so on. If he can keep on this message and mean it (please let him mean it!), he’s President and will have wide coat tails.
Although I do agree, the head bob has to go.
ncc770 on September 6, 2007 at 8:16 AM
Great – doriangray is back as Head Fred Head! Please bring up some more useless drivel about how Fred has run the best campaign and has done things the “conservative” way that only you and he know.
woodman on September 6, 2007 at 8:34 AM
Fred’s forte has always been, in Clintonesque fashion, telling us what we want to hear and showing us what we want to see. Note how both Fred and Hillary are always scripted, placed in friendly environments, and never asked any tough questions. It was smart of Fred to skip the FOX debate last night, that line of questioning isn’t just something you can hem and haw and draw up 20 year old talking points on.
That’s just delusional. Bush may be an absolute wreck when trying to employ the English language, but at least he isn’t litterally shaking in his boots bobbing up and down. Jorje Arbusto’s problem is verbal fumbling, not aerobic speechercizing.
I see Fred as more like Hillary Clinton than Ronald Reagan. Do, Say Anything, and keep the heathen masses from discovering your misdeeds.
BKennedy on September 6, 2007 at 8:50 AM
Imagine, three (Rudy, McCain, and Fred) candidates with a sense of humor.
right2bright on September 6, 2007 at 8:51 AM
Imagine BKennedy with one…
Darksean on September 6, 2007 at 8:53 AM
Because the use of Jorje Arbusto, verbal fumbling, and aerobic speechercizing within three words of each other is a sign of an old stuffed shirt who can’t find humor in anything.
There was also my response to MirCat’s MTV note with a rhyme on the woefully inept VOTE OR DIE! campaign.
And I lack a sense of humor?
What does a guy have to do to be funny around here, star in a Disney movie as a blue genie and then go psycho-lib later?
BKennedy on September 6, 2007 at 9:00 AM
If he runs the race with anything like the video suggests he will win hands down. the slient majority will once again come to the polls like 1980, and 1994 to bring our country back from the brink. with Mondale like dems a conservative federalist will easily win the race. The debate last night shows the REPs are terrified of FRED. I wonder why?
unseen on September 6, 2007 at 9:27 AM
Out of all the Republican candidates, Rudy has the best shot of defeating either Hil or Barack. All Fred will do is eat up the conservative votes and make this primary race closer than it should be. If Rudy ends up losing as a result, we’ll all have to adjust to a Democratic congress AND white house. Fred? will then be the one to blame.
Rudy 08!
Its Tommy on September 6, 2007 at 9:44 AM
Pres. Rudy = Pres. Dubya = compassionate conservative = closet liberal.
IrishEi on September 6, 2007 at 10:05 AM
Nice way to show your failure to grasp the English language there bub. If you think the same political fervency exhibited by those in the blogsphere didn’t exist in the 80’s you are sadly misinformed and pathetically ignorant. The blogsphere may not have existed but UUNET did. And it was the blogsphere of its day. The name and format may have changed but that really is all that has changed.
Furthermore even a semi self honest simpleton should have been able to grasp the equivocation between instant gratification blogsphere political junkies and earlier generations of political junkies. Only the medium by which they express themselves has changed. If there is a difference between the two it is only in the degree of self aggrandizing importance the instant gratification blogsphere political junkies have attached to their own existence.
The intellectually dishonest manner in which you attempt to disparage the comparison between two fundamentally similar campaigns shows the disingenuous nature of your political bias. Like Ronald Reagan before him Fred is in fact running an unorthodox campaign moreover just like Reagan, Fred is ignoring the demands of the pundits and political junkies and running his campaign on his own schedule.
My sister was a professional political consultant for Ronald Reagan (here in souther California) so yes I very distinctly remember what his campaign was like. I very clearly remember how his amateur campaign staff reacted when right after his official announcement he replaced virtually all of them with professional campaign consultants. I was there for the first couple of weeks walking my sister into the campaign building at her request because the amateur campaigners would block the entrance and try to intimidate her. Hell a couple of them even threw eggs at her.
So yes the comparison is actually quite valid between what Reagan did during his campaign and what is now happening in Fred’s. More importantly what Reagan did in years past just like what Fred just did was not surprising to anyone but the amateurs.
For you to claim that the comparison between the two is invalid is both ignorant and dishonest. For you to pretend you did not grasp the significance in the intentional insult of instant gratification applied to the new generation of sideline cyber political junkies brokers the need for a new definition of self inflicted disingenuous obtuseness.
doriangrey on September 6, 2007 at 10:33 AM
Well lets see, you for one, not that you are honest enough to admit it.
doriangrey on September 6, 2007 at 10:36 AM
Puhleeze. You have been extolling the virtues of Mitt since the campaign season started. You have been pontificating about how much better a candidate Mitt is than Fred!. You’ve been defending Mitt and his religion every time anyone makes even an implied criticism (bigots!). So fess up: if it’s not Mitt, then who?
Mallard T. Drake on September 6, 2007 at 11:12 AM
I am with Fred. I like him.
Stormy70 on September 6, 2007 at 11:13 AM
Dude, you need to watch it for credibility issue alone.
Besides after you watch it we can make guesses as to the identity of his speech writer.
Spirit of 1776 on September 6, 2007 at 11:14 AM
Dang even I know the answer to this: CS will vote for whichever candidate polls best against Hillary.
Spirit of 1776 on September 6, 2007 at 11:16 AM
Oh, good. He’s a Fred!head after all.
Mallard T. Drake on September 6, 2007 at 11:32 AM
I agree with Rudy Guiliani that you have to earn the Republican Party nomination for President, and Fred thompson, by appearing on Leno instead of the FOX debate, is not earning the nomination.
Phil Byler on September 6, 2007 at 11:41 AM
Heh. Yup, I think you nailed the Fred detractors perfectly. But you forgot:
Waaaaaah. Fred! has a red truck!
jdawg on September 6, 2007 at 11:42 AM
Just watched the 15 minute video. WOW! He talks a good talk now let him walk the walk! Where can I get a bumper sticker?
ChrisIansNana on September 6, 2007 at 11:42 AM
An annoying habit of the Mitt? supporters is they act as if there is no one else running. Another is the bashing of other candidates while Mitt? has all kinds of issues – especially his constant flip-flopping when it suits him, especially on the abortion issue.
jdawg on September 6, 2007 at 11:44 AM
Cool! So does this grandma! Complete with the off road sports package! Grandkids love it!
ChrisIansNana on September 6, 2007 at 11:47 AM
Exactly. He has been screaming about Fred! not being in the race or not articulating his positions. Now he doesn’t even have a measley 15 minutes to give the guy a listen…
puhlease. Or maybe the Mitt? campaign is working him so hard he honestly doesn’t have 15 minutes…
jdawg on September 6, 2007 at 11:48 AM
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