Daily Kos military source: Bushitler planning blitzkrieg on Iran! Update: Kos to Kossacks: You’re gullible idiots

posted at 7:48 pm on September 2, 2007 by Allahpundit

Treasonous if true. Good thing it isn’t.

Update: Kos joins the right! Welcome home, buddy!

Update (Bryan): And now the treasonous post has disappeared down the memory hole. That seems to happen an awful lot over there at the dKos.

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Beauchamp must have transfered through the Marines to the Navy.

SPQR on September 2, 2007 at 7:53 PM

Clever liars give details, but the cleverest don’t.

- somebody or other

MB4 on September 2, 2007 at 7:54 PM

What I find interesting is how similar of a narrative KOS’ friend developed as compared with the stories from the UK Times and Telegraph. In addition of KOS’ narrative being fiction could it also be classified as plagiarism?

Weight of Glory on September 2, 2007 at 8:00 PM

“Gulf of Hormuz”?

It’s the Straits of Hormuz in the Persian Gulf.

Nitwit.

flipflop on September 2, 2007 at 8:01 PM

What I find interesting is how similar of a narrative KOS’ friend developed as compared with the stories from the UK Times and Telegraph. In addition of KOS’ narrative being fiction could it also be classified as plagiarism?

The left has been bleating about a massive imminent bombing campaign against Iran for more than a year now. The source didn’t need the Times or Telegraph piece to prompt her on this.

Allahpundit on September 2, 2007 at 8:03 PM

Liberals and leftists are too ignorant of military matters to lie about them convincingly.

packsoldier on September 2, 2007 at 8:05 PM

Sounds like somebody’s been smoking something

BobH on September 2, 2007 at 8:06 PM

You can tell it is a sloooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow news day on Meet The (De)Press(ed) if they are giving air time to The Supreme Grand Poohbah Moonbat Loon himself. But then again, they insist on bringing “Traitor Jack” Murtha on every chance they get, so letting Kos do his usual Rantin’-And-A-Ravin’-Snake-Oil Road Show in front of whatever dwindling audience this show has remaining should surprise no one.

pilamaye on September 2, 2007 at 8:07 PM

…of course, I hope Iran believes this!

BobH on September 2, 2007 at 8:08 PM

LGF has a link to Kos dressing down his minions for believing this.

see-dubya on September 2, 2007 at 8:08 PM

I hope it’s true. I know it’s not.

But like BobH says, maybe it’s better if Iran believes it. Maybe, just maybe a little rhetoric, a little hasbara will scare Iran and the little man a bit.

mjk on September 2, 2007 at 8:10 PM

My guess a payroll clerk in Ohio on cocaine or something like that.

Besides Confederate Yankee, have a look at MacsMind for more toss down on this crud.

This one isn’t bad, it’s sad.

CommentGuy on September 2, 2007 at 8:10 PM

I am not a military person, but it would seem to me, that if a unit was getting ready for an attack, our soldiers, sailors, marines, airmen, would be FAR too busy to be sending emails like this for any reason.

CrimsonFisted on September 2, 2007 at 8:11 PM

Ya know…

I’m thinking this Markos guy got beat up a lot in grade school?

I’m not a violent guy, but back in the day, I’m thinking even I would’ve wanted to beat him up.

Lawrence on September 2, 2007 at 8:11 PM

Over at ConfederateYankee, follow the link to the post Lex puts out there.

This guy is an experienced Navy jet jockey and he knows from what he speaks.

CommentGuy on September 2, 2007 at 8:12 PM

The Pentagon has plans for bombing a lot of countries. It’s called being prepared. And I think it’s reasonably certain Iran is one of them. But that doesn’t mean we actually will do it. However, the chance of us attacking Iraq is probably a lot higher right now than any other country. But that still doesn’t mean we are going to do it.

Anti-war as well as most Democrats are just playing the Chicken Little card to scare us. It would be foolish of us to fall for this tactic.

Lawrence on September 2, 2007 at 8:17 PM

Lawrence

This doesn’t even reach that level, it is purely a mind created fantasy.

The tipster to the story teller is totally an invention that doesn’t exist.

Beyond that , yes the rest COULD be true but how likely is it?

I got a real feeling the poster of the diary over there is going to have their union card pulled.

CommentGuy on September 2, 2007 at 8:21 PM

None dare call it treason.

There is no such thing as treason in America anymore or at least being held accountable.

Not since Jane Fonda sat on that North Vietnamese gun.

MB4 on September 2, 2007 at 8:26 PM

I have rarely been as thoroughly depressed reading anything in the blogosphere as I was in reading the comments in Macabee’s post.

Wow . . . there are large numbers of Americans that think all that crap is true.

I know its Kos n all, and I am just hoping that is where all the nutbirds go to roost. But still.

I thought I woke up in America.

Ken McCracken on September 2, 2007 at 8:27 PM

This DailyKOS blogger has quite a reputation:

It’s no surprise that there are serial liars and embellishers on the interwebs. What should be noted is that their lies and embellishments can be utterly transparent and repetitive, and yet be accepted as fact time and again by the audience for whom they confirm basic prejudices. Take, for example, one pseudonymous fellow at DailyKos who goes by “Maccabee.” He claimed to meet a Romanian cabbie who told him to leave Bush’s tyrannical America; he claimed to meet a Holocaust survivor who told him that Bush’s America resembles Nazi Germany; he claimed to meet another cabbie, Ugandan this time, who told him that Bush’s America is worse than Idi Amin’s Uganda; he claimed to have received a phone call from Balad, Iraq, revealing that the majority of the American Army’s mechanized strength is “out of commission”; and today, he claimed to have received a telephone call from an American aircraft carrier on deployment, revealing that the United States Navy is about to attack Iran. Oh, and he also learned that the naval rank and file detest George W. Bush, too. That “Maccabee” is a habitual liar is obvious enough: what’s more ridiculous than his fables is that they are nearly always Recommended Diaries at DailyKos. The reality-based community loves its myths — and its mythmakers.

http://joshua.trevino.at/?p=326

Good for KOS to point that out!

bnelson44 on September 2, 2007 at 8:28 PM

Allahpundit on September 2, 2007 at 8:03 PM

You are right. I guess it’s just that when I woke up this morning and read the Times article…then the Telegraph article…then the Breitbart article about 3000 centrifuges…all culminating to this “scoop” by KOS. I guess today was just the day for Iran news.

Weight of Glory on September 2, 2007 at 8:37 PM

Keep it up with the nasty ad hominems, boys, and I’m going to stop deleting comments and start banning you straightaway. Keeeeeep it up.

Allahpundit on September 2, 2007 at 8:38 PM

Odd, I actually thought this was true. Ahmadinutjob, after all, has been quite boisterous lately. Well, should have known better.

mram on September 2, 2007 at 8:39 PM

Ken McCracken,

I don’t blaim you. But isn’t DailyKOS suppose to be backed by the mainstream Democratic Party now? Not sure why he lets this kinda stuff happen.

bnelson44 on September 2, 2007 at 8:51 PM

Kos needs to be careful. If he shames his readers into actually using their brains, they’ll stop being his loyal minions.

aero on September 2, 2007 at 8:54 PM

You can put your mind at ease KOS we right wingers have been laughing at you for a long time ! BWWWAAAHHAAAAHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!

sonnyspats1 on September 2, 2007 at 9:00 PM

Im totally convinced

The Daily Kos is why someone coined the phrase “Stuck on Stupid”

William Amos on September 2, 2007 at 9:01 PM

Kos should really buy more than one suit coat if he plans to do a lot of TV appearances.

Maxx on September 2, 2007 at 9:01 PM

I think KOS hit a nerve. His post has over 710 entries.

bnelson44 on September 2, 2007 at 9:06 PM

I think someone just leaked the script from Behind Enemy Lines 2. Only this time Bush is the enemy.

People could sum up what the mission was in Kosovo in one sentence? Ahahahahahaha. I’m still not sure what I was doing.

Someone needs to ‘create’ some more UFO sightings to keep these people busy.

reaganaut on September 2, 2007 at 9:06 PM

Credit where credit is due, I have to hand an “attaboy” to Kos here. Policing outright fabricators on his site is a worthy activity. Yes, it’s in his self-interest to avoid embarrassment the next time he goes on teevee, but it’s worthy nonetheless. No excuses, no equivocations, and a solid philosophical point about cognition. Nice post, Kos!

Splunge on September 2, 2007 at 9:35 PM

It does seem that the treason law is a dead letter in the law. Perhaps we have seen enough that we need to revive the law of treason.

Phil Byler on September 2, 2007 at 9:38 PM

Kos needs to be careful. If he shames his readers into actually using their brains, they’ll stop being his loyal minions.

aero on September 2, 2007 at 8:54 PM

ROTFLMMFBO…….Christopher Hitchens and Allahpundit will become Billy Graham style Evangelical born again Christians long before that ever happens…

doriangrey on September 2, 2007 at 9:41 PM

He looks like Islamic Rage Boy in the screencap.

Dork B. on September 2, 2007 at 10:26 PM

Bad Day to Take Off (20+ / 0-)
Recommended by:pb, eugene, acquittal, Coldblue Steele, LynChi, rockhound, marina, JohnB47, Phil S 33, methodishca, mhw, blue in NC, Cato come back, walkingdeer, Empower Ink, lisastar, RickMassimo, pedmom, Issek, papicek
I left this afternoon and thought the storm would be over or at least burned off the rec list.

So I have since read every comment and now am left with this- how was I so easily fooled?

Was she punking me?

Why call me and tell me this?

I have no way of contacting her and I am sorry for all the doubt this has left in your minds.

I reported the story as I heard it.

I think after reading all these vets comments that there is so much doubt now in my own mind that I will take the post down.

by Maccabee on Sun Sep 02, 2007 at 05:28:32 PM PDT

Here is what he posted on the Kos thread

ArmyAunt on September 2, 2007 at 10:33 PM

Cute that Maccabee wants to blame that fiction on his “source”. Unconvincing at best.

SPQR on September 2, 2007 at 10:54 PM

Bryan,
Don’t worry there are plenty more where that came from.

bnelson44 on September 2, 2007 at 10:58 PM

Looking at Josh Trevino’s expert takedown, I can only conclude one thing about “Maccabee”*:

Che Che strikes again!

*and a strange pseudonym indeed that is for the Israel-ambivalent Daily Kos…

see-dubya on September 2, 2007 at 11:01 PM

Keep it up with the nasty ad hominems, boys, and I’m going to stop deleting comments and start banning you straightaway. Keeeeeep it up

Allah

I have to say you’ve turned into quit the prick about posting lately. Do you want a blog that allows individuals to post what they want, or do you want to control the narrative. Look, I’ve not posted and mainly just watched and read what’s you’ve had to say, but lately I’ve seen a tendency on this blog to try to beat people down. I understand you’re mainly concerned about what’s said because of how it will reflect on MM, but she’s a big girl and at the end of the day, it really doesn’t matter what people say on this blog. The leftnuts will find what they need to beat up on her. Ban me if you will, but allow people to say what they want.

mastour on September 2, 2007 at 11:06 PM

I understand you’re mainly concerned about what’s said because of how it will reflect on MM, but she’s a big girl and at the end of the day, it really doesn’t matter what people say on this blog.

That’s not my main concern. My main concern is that it lowers the discourse. I don’t want anyone making gay jokes about Kos. It’s nasty, unfair, and off-topic. “Do unto others…”, right?

Sorry for being a “prick” because I’m unwilling to let some of you libel a guy for a larf.

Allahpundit on September 2, 2007 at 11:12 PM

I’m guessing this is where Bsghdad Rosie got her news about being at war with Iran by the end of the summer. If I remember correctly, I believe she guaranteed it.

PowWow on September 2, 2007 at 11:30 PM

sorry, will actually wear the new glasses from now on, when using preview feature

PowWow on September 2, 2007 at 11:31 PM

HAHA

Kos starved the diary of Oxygen.

Topsecretk9 on September 2, 2007 at 11:33 PM

Keep it up with the nasty ad hominems, boys, and I’m going to stop deleting comments and start banning you straightaway. Keeeeeep it up.

Allahpundit on September 2, 2007 at 8:38 PM

He does deserve it.

drjohn on September 2, 2007 at 11:36 PM

Don’t believe everything you read on the internets.
–Markos Moullitas

Oh, really, Markos? And what exactly would you know about that?

JinxMcHue on September 2, 2007 at 11:38 PM

What a load! I spent 30 years in Naval Aviation. The story is as believable as the tooth fairy and the Easter Bunny.

MCPO Airdale on September 2, 2007 at 11:55 PM

HAHAHAHA!!!!

Too funny!

This is gonna be the X factor in the 08 elections this year, how insane will the nutroots be, and are Kos and the other Nutroots bigwigs gonna be able to keep them on a leash (assuming they want to)?

Bad Candy on September 3, 2007 at 12:27 AM

Mastour, et al:

You can go here, or here, start your own blog, and say all the naughty things about Kos you like! You can even make obscene photoshops of him and write scurrilous doggerel accusing him of unspeakable acts with underage ocicats and never rewinding his VHS tapes.

And you can make it a No Allahpundit zone!

Because it will be your blog, and you can run it how you like, according to the definition of civility you profess.

And when Kos wants to use somebody for a prop to support his shaky moral equivalency, he can point at you.

see-dubya on September 3, 2007 at 1:03 AM

I left at Ace’s, but this is just priceless

Macabee’s diary on Right Wing Blogs —

Armchair Military Experts/Generals. A small group of RWBloggers love to read history and confuse the current war with wars that have no real analogy. For example, Clinton was just like Neville Chamberlain. Iraq was just like World War II. Insurgents are like Communists, and so on. These RWBloggers will make references to famous land battles like Arsuf and the Somme, and the Third Crusade. It all sounds great. But little holds up under scrutiny. Like an old college professor once said, If you can’t dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit. I imagine pipe smoking, bow tie wearing keyboardists, totally satisfied with their academic prowess. The astonishing thing about RWB is how little they actually know about the subjects that they write about. Few of them know the difference between the Sunnis and Shias. Most have never heard of Sunni or Shias, but this does not stop them from lecturing you on this.

oh, and she says Michelle Malkin has anger management problems and a bunch of other stupid “observations” during her RW blog “study”…

Topsecretk9 on September 3, 2007 at 1:26 AM

oh crud – I meant to bold college professor advice, Maccabee apparently took to heart today

If you can’t dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit.

Topsecretk9 on September 3, 2007 at 1:36 AM

True that See-Dub, I don’t know why they don’t start their own sites. They might gat an appreciation for what it to run a big site like this. I run a small site and even that’s tough in trying to find good stories and write on things that hasn’t been written to death already by the big fish.

Bad Candy on September 3, 2007 at 2:01 AM

bnelson44 on September 2, 2007 at 8:28 PM

Thanks for your “Maccabee” info.

Wouldn’t it be delicious if “Maccabee” turned out to be John Kerry’s handle?

Dr. Charles G. Waugh on September 3, 2007 at 3:45 AM

see-dubya et al.

You junkyard dogs hunt in packs.

Jawohl mein Fuehrer!

JiangxiDad on September 3, 2007 at 8:00 AM

Allah, first off I apologize for my “prickish” attitude in my comment. One or five too many at a neighborhood party. My point in my comment was more a reflection of my frustration that we seem to hold ourselves to a standard the other side cares nothing about. I agree civil discourse is necessary for the exchange of idea, but at what point do we start to understand we’re going to be reviled and hated no matter what we say. We hold certain beliefs the left find deplorable, so what we say or how we say it is of no consequence.

I read Michelle’s site also and she has pretty strong views towards certain issues. Granted she couchs what she believes in terms that are civil, but that doesn’t stop the left from reading her views and portraying her in a way they see fit. I guess I’m tired of seeing a standard of discourse set for one party that the other does not see fit to emulate.

Oh and See-Dub, thanks for the advice but I have neither the time nor the wit to start or keep up with my own blog. One of the reasons I visit Hot Air/Ace/PW/JOM is the commentary from those sites follow my thinking, but the authors and posters are better able to express themselves than I could ever hope to achieve.

mastour on September 3, 2007 at 8:09 AM

flipflop on September 2, 2007 at 8:01 PM

Great observation. Proves that those on the left do not have to learn anything in school except hate the right or anyone that does not agree with your point of view.

Obviously, geography was a class that the KOS creator received an ‘A’ for just showing up and finding China or Russia on the map after three tries.

MSGTAS on September 3, 2007 at 10:56 AM

Does he wear that jacket to prove he is part of/leader of the proletariat? His tailor is on speed dial.

Terri on September 3, 2007 at 11:47 AM

A future weather forecast….

Weather Report and Forcast for Tehran and environs

Outlook for today is partly sunny with a brief period of ultra-bright light, brighter than the sun, followed by winds vastly exceeding hurricane strength for part of the day. A strong wind advisory is being issued for the city of Tehran and outlying areas. Today’s high temperature will be 10,000 degrees Fahrenheit tapering off to -20 degrees F tonight. Snow likely this evening.

Detailed forecast follows…
Sunrise: 0612 (local) Temperature: 45 degrees F., wind out of the East at 6kts, gusting to 950kts by noon.

Noon: Very heavy radioactive overcast with very dusty conditions at ground level. Heavy smoke limiting visibility to less than 1/8 mile at Tehran Intl. Airport, causing flight delays well into the next decade. High temperature 10,000 degrees but falling in the afternoon to 300 degrees, wind toward the city at 150 kts.

Afternoon: Radioactive rain combined with heavy smoke and overcast conditions will cause the temperature to drop to -20 degrees Fahrenheit by midnight. Radioactive rain likely, turning to snow by sunset.

Sunset: 1930 (local). Heavy radioactive overcast and poor visibility due to blowing and drifting smoke.

WIND ADVISORY:
Extremely strong gusts exceeding 950 kts are expected in the the greater Tehran metropolitan area for part of the day.

TRAFFIC ADVISORY:
Expect delays due to collapsed bridges, overpasses, heavy radioactive smoke, and overturned semis. Afternoon wind speed and direction will drop to 150 kts into Tehran city center.

WINTER STORM ADVISORY:
High winds and drifting or blowing sand, accompanied by heavy smoke and radioactivity will cause hazardous driving
conditions for Tehran and nearby suburbs. The following cities are affected: Tehran. This advisory is in effect until 2300 tomorrow and may be extended indefinitely.

SUNSCREEN ADVISORY:
Due to extremely bright conditions, it is recommended that you remain indoors. If you must go outside, use a sunscreen preparation with a minimum SPF rating of 2 Million.

###

georgej on September 3, 2007 at 12:10 PM

georgej on September 3, 2007 at 12:10 PM

I really believe that thinking about nuking another country makes you get an erection.

Bradky on September 3, 2007 at 1:48 PM

I would love to see Kid Kos’s face expression if
President Bush ordered the smack Iran attack on
September 11,with the first bombing wave timed of the first building being hit,and the second bombing wave,timed for the second building that was hit.

Then watch Kid Kos become unglued!

canopfor on September 3, 2007 at 2:38 PM

canopfor on September 3, 2007 at 2:38 PM

So our military strategies should center around how to best PO those with whom you disagree?

Bradky on September 3, 2007 at 6:15 PM

The google archive has this, comments and all. And here is the link to Lex from Ace. Lex is the one who showed them for the fools they are.

Terri on September 3, 2007 at 6:50 PM

So our military strategies should center around how to
best PO those with whom you disagree?
Bradky on September 3,2007 at 6:15PM.

Of course not Bradky,but don’t you think that the otherside
gives a r!ts a!ss about military strategies!
Seems to me,the other side(libs and leftys)military strategy
is for surrender,now don’t you think that p!sses !ff are side.

canopfor on September 3, 2007 at 10:57 PM

canopfor on September 3, 2007 at 10:57 PM

As I said the enemies are the terrorists not our fellow citizens. Sometimes watching the right and left duke it out in blogworld is an education in stupidity.

Why do you care what Kos says and why do they care what other blogs are saying? The number of people who go to the sites like these are in the single digits of total voter percentages. But elements of both sides extrapolate it out to make it seem that “the left” or the “Dhimmicrats” or the “defeatocrats” or the “neocons” or “warmongers”, etc. etc. can be painted so easily by what is going on in blogville.
It is not the “real world”. You have Democrats and Republicans and independents dying in Iraq to defend your liberties. Some of these troops may not agree with the decision to go to war, but fight for you they do, desptie that.
Yet the blogosphere seems to have it painted so nice and neat that the enemy is one another……

Bradky on September 3, 2007 at 11:13 PM

Bradky on September 3, 2007 at 11:13 PM

Politics matters. Look at the mess in Iran. Thank Jimmy Carter.

Political parties matter, presidents matter, elections matter. Your view works fine at the cocktail party but it useless in the real world.

Mojave Mark on September 3, 2007 at 11:53 PM

Your view works fine at the cocktail party but it useless in the real world.

Mojave Mark on September 3, 2007 at 11:53 PM

Mojave Mark on September 3, 2007 at 11:53 PM

As I stressed:
Democrats and Republicans and independents dying in Iraq to defend your liberties. Some of these troops may not agree with the decision to go to war, but fight for you they do, despite that.
Yet the blogosphere seems to have it painted so nice and neat that the enemy is one another

That IS the real world my friend, not a bunch of kiddies in the blog sandboxes throwing dirt at one another. sorry it doesn’t match up with your idea that America is at war with terrorists and Democrats.
Carter was a bad president but that doesn’t make all Democrats a bad American. Nixon was a flawed president but it doesn’t make all Republicans flawed.

Bradky on September 4, 2007 at 12:30 AM

How many times will these dopey lefties lose their lunch money to lying scammers before they wise up?

Answer: Never. Being a lefty means never wising up but always putting your hand on the hot stove over and over again, hoping that next time you won’t get burned.

Tantor on September 4, 2007 at 4:40 PM