The Mexican-Americans I was referring to are all legal U.S. citizens. As I imagine terryannonline is also. Don’t let your apparent anger over an ignorant statement made by Calderon cause you to lash out at U.S. citizens of Mexican descent.

I have not nor will I ever push “the poor illegal’s plight” in your or anyone else’s face. I would like all illegal aliens of whatever nationality returned to their country of origin.

As for my request, if the shoe fits wear it.

This is what I mean already 80% of the US population wants tighter enforcment. If the globalists insist on their course of the new world order the backlash will be big. The anger and resentment will be so great that a charismatic leader could take advantage of the problem and push the fear/hate/anger buttons to move this country into a massive world war with major ramifications for “others”

This is the exact oppisite of what the globalists think they are doing.

coldshot on September 5, 2007 at 11:36 AM

The point people are making regarding terryannonline , is not so much what the individual calls him/herself, rather it’s the rationale and the apparent support of Calderon’s ignorant comment. Don’t push “the poor illegal’s plight” in my face, ever. Oh and you’ll be in the “position” a helluva long time before I honor your request.

I have lived in south Texas my entire life and have known many, many people, that refer to themselves as Mexican-Americans. The vast majority of them have been good honest Americans. So don’t allow anyone to convince you to call yourself anything other than what you choose.

And anyone that tells you otherwise can kiss my European-American ass.

the law of unintentional consequences…unseen on September 4, 2007 at 5:13 AM

Avery good summation, Unseen, although I differ with the following:

The increase in this mass immigration that flaunts our laws and our history cause the nation to look inward and renounce the free trade/new world order and increase the Nationalism view of the vast majority of US. Setting the stage for a leader like Hitler to rise up in the next 10 to 20 years and play on our anger, hate, and fear of job loss, lack of security etc or a rebellion that causes wide spread damage. This will be a 3rd unintended consequence of the new world order. unseen on September 4, 2007 at 5:13 AM

People are not looking inward. They are defending their homes.

We can have free trade without giving amnesty to 30 million self selected, non assimilating Mexicans.

We do not have fear of job loss. We have job loss. Job busting in fact, by 30 million scabs imported from Mexico to work outside the law, freeing employers from the burdens of legal business, and transferring a huge burden of supporting the illegal sub culture to the middle class who pay income taxes that no longer come back to help them

This is not the delusion of the Protocals of Zion enslaving the innocent Nazi. This is 30 million real infiltrators, imported by real enemies who have no interest in the voice of the people

Pre WWII Germany was broke from WWI and found a racist scapegoat. Post WWII America is abandoning the rule of law and has three authentic perps: corrupt leaders who selectively apply the law, corrupt businesses who solicit illegal employees to gain advantage, and illegal aliens who ignore our borders and laws to take any job they can get away with and demand citizenship without assimilation.

Of these three perps, not one loves America

I call the displaced American worker the real scapegoat

The final deed was almost done this Memorial Day except for a mighty shout from the downtrodden middle class.

There is a war right now and it is our middle class defending themselves with swords and shovels against the mighty armies of business and politics supported by their endless supply of willing serfs from Mexico.

I feel I can label myself how I choose. I prefer Mexican-American to Hispanic or Latina because they are too
broad of terms in defining my cultural background. Hispanic means my ancestry is from Spain or Portugal and I’m not 100% certain of that. But if it makes you guys happy I’ll call my say I’m Hispanic in the comment threads of Hotair since it seems to offend so many people:) Ok, so let’s drop.

terryannonline on September 3, 2007 at 1:28 PM

You can (obviously) label yourself however you want, as long as you’re aware of the sentiment permeating our society right now re: “Mexican issues” (resulting from this speech & other events). I think many of us here can handle it, though…I detect from the posts it was just a reaction to your post without thoroughly understanding your tone or intent.

If you are second-generation, it almost makes no sense to me, personally, to use the hyphen…I tend to utilize the hyphens for first-generation Americans, since they just arrived from their birth country. And yet, if they came here legally, chances are they don’t hypenate.

The other reason I don’t use hyphens? Check mine out: English-, Scottish-, Welsh-, Irish-, French-, German-, Bohemian-, Dutch-, Swedish-, Norwegian-, Native-American.

I prefer American, for many reasons. If you’re American, I like hearing your ancestry anyway…that’s going to come out in conversations with me. But hyphenating can get a little tricky after a point, so I just leave it.

Make sense?

the ruling elite after the cold war decided that Nationalism was bad (new world order). Worldwide Free trade was born. No longer was Nationalism the creed but now it was the pursuit of material goods. Nafta was born, the WTO was given more power to control trade. Jobs were lost in the US the US lost economic power. China was admitted to the WTO. Religion in the West was supplanted by the new world order. Vacuums were opened up in individuals that had not previously been seen. Islam grew to fill one vacuum, Radical Islam grew from Islam since Islam preaches radicalism. The WOT was born. 1st unintended consequence.

The decrease in Washington’s and the West’s view of Nationalism opened our borders to massive immigration. This immigration was from those of other countries that had not renounced nationalism but sought a better life. Thus we have within the US and Europe large populations that are not required to assimilate to the US or western Europe’s culture and look upon their new homeland has evil another vacuum filled. 2nd unintended consequence.

The increase in this mass immigration that flaunts our laws and our history cause the nation to look inward and renounce the free trade/new world order and increase the Nationalism view of the vast majority of US. Setting the stage for a leader like Hitler to rise up in the next 10 to 20 years and play on our anger, hate, and fear of job loss, lack of security etc or a rebellion that causes wide spread damage. This will be a 3rd unintended consequence of the new world order.

This will bring the cycle full circle and give rise to what the “knowing elites” wanted to avoid in the first place. Add into this mix the economic rise of truly homogenous societies like China, Russia, and India and you have the makings of a world wide war being raged on a weakened West. The 4th and worse unintended consequence.

Nations evolved for a reason. That reason is because people have different views and wants than others in the world. People are different in their beliefs and views. Nations were a way of liked minded people to protect themselves from others that thought different than them. Nations have been racist but are not racist in and of themselves (this is the mistake that the elites have made). Without the protection of the Nation state any madman can and will seize control and plunge the entire world into chaos.

The pursuit of the dollar should not and can not supplant the founding documents of this country no matter how much our elites believe it should. People are not made that way and the survival instinct will not allow it to continue for much longer. We can either return to our core beliefs in freedom protected by a strong nation state not by words on paper or we can sit back and watch the world burn from our “elites” failure to understand human nature.

So, if it is true that, wherever there is a Mexican, there is Mexico, then if there are Mexicans in India, China, Korea, Japan, Argentina, Belize, Cuba, Honduras, Republica de Dominica, Canada, Australia, and so on, around the world, then all those countries must be Mexico.

Also, since it is an established fact that Mexico is a violent, poverty stricken country due to the corruption of government officials and others, then it follows that wherever there is Mexico, meaning, wherever there is a Mexican, thus making that country Mexico, then all other countries in which a Mexican breathes air, walks, eats. etc., is also a corrupt, violent nation.

Since many nations are actually successful bastions of freedom, prosperity, and not entirely corrupt, such as the US, Australia, Great Britain, Japan, and others, then it is a the claim “Wherever there is a Mexican, there is Mexico” is a false statement.

Who will rule the United States first? Mexico and Mexicans, or Islamic Jihadists?

William

Suggestions:

1. No more “illegal immigrants/immigration” – immigration can only be legal. Anything else is an illegal infiltration.
Entelechy

Amen

I keep thinking of a phrase from Lincoln’s Gettysburg Address:

Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that nation, or any nation so conceived and so dedicated, can long endure A. Lincoln

A nation without enforced border law is a nation without borders.

A borderless nation that does not prevent aliens from voting is owned by whoever chooses to take it.

How long can America endure if it becomes de facto a Nation without Borders?

Lincoln in his second Innaugural address stated

This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing Government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it.

The criminals in Washington do not believe that we, the citizens own this nation. They have told We the Peons of the United States that we must grant citizenship to every illegal that the Wahington criminals have illegally allowed to enter our country, as a reward for picking lettuce and stealing the jobs of skilled tradesmen.

I want to send the entire lot back over the border now. I do not care if the crops rot. I want to send Bush, and his crooked cronies in Congress to live in Mexico now. Where they lay their heads it is the Globalist Nation anyway.

This is my country and you cannot take it from me. It does not belong to Congress, the Senate, the White House, and the business community to parcel off as they please, laws be damned.

U.S. intelligence says the number of Iraqis caught trying to sneak across the U.S. has tripled this year. In 2007, the U.S. Customs and Border Protection intercepted 178 Iraqi asylum-seekers vs. 60 in 2006. For every one that’s caught, 10 others get away.

I don’t have a link, but don’t I recall His Highness Chertoff insisting some time in the last month or so that there were no cases of any terrorists coming across the border? C’mon….

doriangrey on September 3, 2007 at 3:59 PM

doriangrey, Thanks. I’m more disappointed than angry when I see posts on HA, that are going to make any Americans life harder, than it already is. We as consumers will never see the so called cheaper goods in the stores. As I said those profits will all be divided up between the corperates. Its really not the truckers fault either. Like the bigolddog posted yesterday (about 20 times), if the truckers shut down for even a few days their gone, bankrupt. I’m in the transportation industry I know and it concerns me alot. Sorry if I jumped on your comments and I also had a person once jump on something I had wrote and I also retracted and lightened up on it ( why because I seen his side to it and sometimes you start writing without slowing down to think things out)..Have a nice Labor Day.

Does that mean I now need to flash my own passport whenever I am visiting any local fast food franchise?