Geraldo: I’d spit on Michelle if I saw her
posted at 12:06 pm on September 1, 2007 by Allahpundit
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Perfect. Now I want you to go watch this clip from Cavuto’s show last week; skip ahead to the middle to hear him whine about how “this kind of personal, kind of gutter rhetoric is the product of this hate campaign directed against illegal aliens.” I wonder if that segment was taped before or after he was relaying his fantasy about spitting on my boss to a Globe reporter.
Let’s get something straight, mustache. No one, no one is more vicious in demonizing its opponents than the open borders crowd, be it the bottom feeders at the Journal who toss around the word “nativist” because we won’t indulge them their desire for quasi-slave labor to our friend KP who reduces the anti-amnesty position to some primitive racist impulse stemming from fear of brown people all the way up to you, now so sick with your own fake virtue that you’re talking openly about a form of assault. Every time you or your pals complain from now on about “hate,” I’m going to be here with this quote. You’ll never live it down.
Here’s another clip, from April 13 of this year. Skip ahead to the middle. What happened, champ? Had dry mouth that night?
Update: Actually, don’t skip ahead to the middle. Skip ahead to about 40% in, when Geraldo unloads on the Black Panther who called Michelle a “whore” on the Factor the week before. He’s a “bully” and a “creep” for having said so, declareth our chivalrous hero — four months before threatening to use her as a spittoon.
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Not at all, but like I say, there are always a few commenters who go too far. Wouldn’t surprise me at all to find that someone has said in a previous Geraldo thread, “I spit on him.” The volume of comments is such that some bad apples will always sneak through.
Allahpundit on September 1, 2007 at 2:06 PM
I certainly don’t support it, again, not analogous, one is an invasion of privacy, the other a public political statement.
Bad Candy on September 1, 2007 at 2:07 PM
Geraldo, backpedalling furiously, explains:
“Geez, I mean spit in the Biblical sense that Hay-Zeus used in the New testament, as a way to try to heal Michelle’s blindess!”
(And if he uses this excuse, I’m suing for plagiarism. -Copyright 2007.)
profitsbeard on September 1, 2007 at 2:08 PM
I agree. I haven’t read all comments yet, but this is appropriate. If a co-worker said that about me, I would expect that that would be the appropriate response. He has upped the ante from cringing to spitting. What is next?
CrimsonFisted on September 1, 2007 at 2:08 PM
It’s funny I never thought about this before. I think it’s time to contribute to her for a few reasons. I like her and what she does, and hate being called a free-loader.
Thanks for making our non-paying guest status so clear.
JiangxiDad on September 1, 2007 at 2:08 PM
Haven’t the slightest idea where you got that from.
JiangxiDad on September 1, 2007 at 2:10 PM
As in, I see no reason not to use Geraldo’s public hyperventilating about illegal immigration as a means to advance my own agenda of immigration enforcement. He’s a useful idiot, and I see no reason not to use such a useful tool that’s been handed to me.
Bad Candy on September 1, 2007 at 2:11 PM
You’re welcome. Anytime you want a refund of your subscription fee, you let me know.
Allahpundit on September 1, 2007 at 2:11 PM
You lost me here. How could this: “I’ll worry about decency after we win.” ever be an issue if you were only referring to public political statements?
Are you claiming that holding people responsible for political statements is somehow indecent? It’s hard to understand how arguing the merits of various positions could be considered offense and also difficult to understand how that would earn the special label of political efficient. As the most efficient politic methods have been, and remain, negative smear campaigns. As I said, you lost me, can you clarify?
Spirit of 1776 on September 1, 2007 at 2:13 PM
I don’t really get this. Are you looking for a thank-you?
JiangxiDad on September 1, 2007 at 2:13 PM
He should at the least be written up, or admonished or something, by management at Fox for publicly saying this about a co-worker.
CrimsonFisted on September 1, 2007 at 2:14 PM
Michelle Dallacroce’s remark on Cavuto about Rivera changing his name and the Al Capone – safe comment undermined her point completely. Her comments only make the “got ya” crowd for open borders glow.
Why does she resort to these tactics everytime she gets airtime?
Michelle Malkin should teach her how to properly debate and charge her for the pointers.
As for Geraldo, Fox was really the very last stop, no one else would have him, period. If it wasn’t for Murdoch hiring him he would be long gone and long forgotten.
Go figure, so why did he hire him anyway??
AprilOrit on September 1, 2007 at 2:15 PM
I read up above where someone said Fox News was conservative, they only appear to be due to the liberal mind set shown on competitors programs….very liberal. Big difference between being fair and balanced and conservative. All though I do see Fox sliding left, little by little.
Geraldo has 5 wives? now that is 5 very lonely women.
oldernslower on September 1, 2007 at 2:16 PM
There’s a world of difference between an anonymous poster saying something stupid and a very public person telling one of the Nation’s largest newspapers he would spit on another very public person if he saw her.
Let’s flip it around. If Michelle told the Washington Post that she’d spit on Geraldo if she saw him on the streets of DC, what do you think the reaction of the MSM and the Nutroots would be?
Tell me again why we shouldn’t really raise a fuss again?
Let me tell you Buddy, until these people are held to the standards they hold us to, we’re going to continue to be treated like mushrooms.
TheBigOldDog on September 1, 2007 at 2:19 PM
We are holding him accountable by keeping him there, his hyperventilating shilling for open borders/amnesty is so overwrought with emotion and so hollow and obnoxious, he’s a net detriment to the Amnesty crowd with what he’s doing during these little slapfights he’s engaging in, we’d be doing him a favor (in the sense that he wants amnesty/open border) by knocking him out of the debate. If your political enemy is eating itself alive, stand back.
Bad Candy on September 1, 2007 at 2:19 PM
Wait a minute, I thought he was out at NBC and Fox offered him a job? I thought he had problems at NBC and they did not offer him a deal.
Am I wrong or is that Globe article a stretch?
AprilOrit on September 1, 2007 at 2:20 PM
Wouldn’t surprise me at all to find that someone has said in a previous Geraldo thread, “I spit on him.”
Allahpundit on September 1, 2007 at 2:06 PM
Heck, someone said that in this thread 1:39 PM ^^
RushBaby on September 1, 2007 at 2:20 PM
No, I’m looking for my very simple point about commenters not sandbagging Michelle by leveling death threats and vicious ad hominems against people in violation of our terms of use not to be met with cracks about “Who pays the bills here?” Answer: not you. Anyone who finds the no-death-threats policy grossly oppressive and unfair is welcome to withhold their “bill-paying” by not reading the site or commenting. In fact, I encourage it.
Allahpundit on September 1, 2007 at 2:20 PM
There is enough material out there methinks. Most of it uncovered by the MSM. Just not all of fits into today’s cultural appetite for shock TV. Even though most of it is indeed shocking.
He should be fired. MSNBC could hire him, or the View.
Montana on September 1, 2007 at 2:23 PM
Yes, I understand your view on the specific situation here, that the indecent thing to do is to let him keep his job and that would be a ‘win’.
Would you be so kind as to answer the questions @ 2.13 as they are the most general, ie guidelines for thinking that I’m curious about.
Spirit of 1776 on September 1, 2007 at 2:23 PM
He was a notorious wonenizer. I think the current wife is the only one that has sustained in terms of no affairs. He claims he has never cheated on her, but the rest, forget about it.
He just wouldn’t stop, he’s really had a problem with the skirt chasing tendencies.
AprilOrit on September 1, 2007 at 2:24 PM
Yes, you know that and I know that and Michelle knows that and will no doubt make that point if required to, but O’Reilly himself doesn’t grasp the distinction and neither will all Fox viewers. I called Geraldo out in this very post, did I not? I even e-mailed the link to Powers to remind her which side the hate in this debate is coming from. All I’m asking is for the few commenters here who are inclined to pop off to keep their noses clean. That would make it a lot easier to do the kind of thing you’re advocating.
Allahpundit on September 1, 2007 at 2:25 PM
Ah, much clearer now…
TheBigOldDog on September 1, 2007 at 2:27 PM
And you don’t think that comments like that are going to make life harder for “Michelle” on the Factor?
By the way, I had no idea that the purpose of this site was to promote and help MM. I thought that this was a conservative news and comment site.
progressoverpeace on September 1, 2007 at 2:28 PM
Actually, I just offered to pay some. Furthermore, I assume you’re paid. Never commented on your death threats policy. Remember, the Allah is a SN, not real.
JiangxiDad on September 1, 2007 at 2:29 PM
Comments like what? That Bill doesn’t distinguish between a site’s post and comments? It’s a simple fact: he doesn’t. He’s unloaded on Kos multiple times over the past month for precisely that reason. I’ve mentioned in at least two posts that it’s an unfair standard to hold Kos to. I think Bill can handle my very mild disagreement with him given the Hitler comparisons he usually gets from the left.
The purpose of the site isn’t to promote and help MM. Neither is the purpose of the site to make her life harder by providing a platform for occasional nutjobs to indulge their fantasies of nuking Mecca or wishing death upon the liberal hate object of the day. I’m not sure why I’m getting static on this very simple point, which the vast vast vast majority of you guys already respect and observe. Just try to keep things basically civil.
Allahpundit on September 1, 2007 at 2:38 PM
What I’m saying is that there’s more than one way to do the decent thing. The truly decent thing to do is punish Geraldo in the worst way possible. It is my view that the best way to punish Geraldo is to continue to let him undermine his own position. He’s made this his personal crusade, problem is, he’s so clumsy he’s trampling his own in his berserker charge.
In other words, while the obvious decent thing to do is to fire his ass, doing the ‘indecent’ is so much more effective a punishment for his insolence, we punish him by damaging his ability to acquire his objectives. And thus the ‘indecent’ is decent in its own special, Machiavellian way.
I’m not really sure what you are asking, and I feel like I’m arguing past you rather than with you, so hopefully this helps.
Bad Candy on September 1, 2007 at 2:39 PM
Although each of us is responsible for the way in which we react to Geraldo it is he who has raised the rhetoric and it is he who is the public personality perpetrating the personal attacks upon Michelle, for which he should absolutely be held accountable.
Compare in the article how he respects O’Reilly even though they disagree and reviles Michelle and would assault her if given the chance.
How is it there’s such a difference? He makes it much too easy to draw the conclusion that Geraldo can respect a man with whom he disagrees and seethes hate towards a woman that dares to oppose him. The opposite of bravery is what comes to mind.
Geraldo can face Afghan poppy growers but he can’t face Michelle?
Apparently so. Says something for Michelle Malkin doesn’t it?
Speakup on September 1, 2007 at 2:48 PM
Not so much arguing as trying to follow your logic and determine what you perceive as appropriate, what is not and how you how offset or balance that with expedience. It seems to me that expedience weighs more to you then decency. Hence the general questions relating to smear campaigns and outing R’s, because I’m curious how and where you would draw your Machiavellian line.
Spirit of 1776 on September 1, 2007 at 2:53 PM
Definitely time for that STRAIGHT-JACKET..
Legions on September 1, 2007 at 2:54 PM
Allah, while I agree with you that some people don’t have an understanding of the blogs and won’t grasp this concept, I think it’s inaccurate for you to attack O’Reilly on this. It’s simply not true. In fact, I’ve seen O’Reilly attack that defense by stating that it’s hogwash because other blogs have someone going through the comments and deleting such posts. So Bill DOES understand the difference and his attack on Kos is for refusing to delete such comments. Bill is 100% correct for attacking Kos on this. You were correct earlier in pointing out that some won’t understand the difference, but you then restated the incorrect accusation about O’Reilly.
I tend to disagree with O’Reilly on many issues, but not on this one.
As for anyone posting comments on this thread that suggest killing someone … it’s an easy solution. Immediately delete the comment and ban them. How hard is that and why does Kos not follow that policy?
Gregor on September 1, 2007 at 2:54 PM
Really Geraldo, you’ve never met a more vile or hateful commentator? Really!?
I was going to list them, and point out how stupid his example of the hate and vile is (turning over criminals! damn you Michelle!!!), but that’s pointless.
What I find most interesting, is what may happen going forward… I doubt this will be enough to get him kicked off of the network (as many of us have been hoping for a long time), but it is certainly enough for Poppa Bear to nuke this SOB. I imagine Bill thinks highly of Michelle or he wouldn’t make her such a regular fill-in… she’s not just some random occasional guest, she’s a regular guest and most featured guest host, and I don’t think he’ll take kindly to this asshat, who he’s already screamed at, saying he’d spit on Michelle.
“Well, it’s good he’s in NYC and I’m in Vermont,” RightWinged sneers. “I’d push him down a flight of stairs if I saw him.”
(FYI – that’s a joke)
RightWinged on September 1, 2007 at 2:56 PM
I haven’t seen Bill say that but I’ll take your word for it. In any case, it’s untrue: dKos, notoriously, often deletes whole posts from the site when they start to get unwanted attention from right-wingers for something crazy that’s been said. I think that’s wrong — if something makes it onto the front page, it should be there forever — but obviously the guy is policing in some manner.
Allahpundit on September 1, 2007 at 2:57 PM
Not that he doesn’t “distinguish”, that he doesn’t “grasp”. Many would be offended by that implication of stupidity (which is what the “grasp” was for). I’m not, but Bill might and it might affect his attitude …
And I agree with you on this. I think that O’Reilly has done us all a great disservice by going after Kos for all the wrong reasons. It has had a chilling affect on many of the blogs and comment sites.
A distinction without a difference.
Well, the nuke Mecca stuff I have no problem with, though I have a HUGE problem with those who refuse to discuss nukes in any way like that – not Mecca, particularly, but the general idea of how our existing nuclear arsenal should be used, both in rhetoric and in action.
As to the death threats, I’ve seen none here (though I don’t read many of the comments). As to “wishes of death”, I refrain from using that language here, but I see nothing wrong with it and I don’t understand why anyone would. This is just another piece of fallout from the O’Reilly rampage against Kos. Who cares if someone wishes someone else dead? Does it really mean anything? I don’t think so, but I don’t wish people dead, here.
For me, as I mentioned before, I don’t like the idea that one needs the “higher ground” to argue a valid point. It denigrates logic and reason in favor of emotions, which is always bad, in my book. That’s what got to me.
Frankly, I can’t figure out why the threat of spitting is such a big deal. It’s low class, but that’s about it.
progressoverpeace on September 1, 2007 at 2:57 PM
I didn’t mean to suggest he’s stupid. Obviously he isn’t. I’m using the words interchangeably.
It’s a crime in some jurisdictions, at least. See JWF’s link above.
Allahpundit on September 1, 2007 at 2:59 PM
Yes, I know … but really. I don’t consider spitting to be an awful or violent act. It’s digusting and low-class. So is farting in the elevator with someone – and I think I’d rather be spit on. :)
progressoverpeace on September 1, 2007 at 3:02 PM
Also, the fact that he’d say it about a woman. It’s not often these days you see a guy willing to espouse some form of assault against women, even of the painless/merely disgusting variety.
Allahpundit on September 1, 2007 at 3:04 PM
Because it is more than an expression of dislike, it dehumanizing. You may think I hyberbolize, but the mentality that will spit on someone is the same root as the one that will enslave someone – because the requisite concept is a view of someone as a lower form of life.
I agree actually. The merits of an argument stand on it’s own. The advantage of moral ground is the ability to get the argument heard.
Spirit of 1776 on September 1, 2007 at 3:06 PM
Looks like we are going to get our chance to have this conversation. New post on the home page…
RushBaby on September 1, 2007 at 3:07 PM
…which just came down.
RushBaby on September 1, 2007 at 3:09 PM
So maybe recycle the headline?
Stephen M on September 1, 2007 at 3:09 PM
It’ll be up in 20 minutes.
Allahpundit on September 1, 2007 at 3:10 PM
This is Geraldo’s Imus moment. Al Sharpton in 5…4…3…2…
sonnyspats1 on September 1, 2007 at 3:10 PM
Huh.
Jaibones on September 1, 2007 at 3:11 PM
Yes, I call that hyperbole. I understand the idea, but I just don’t take it all that seriously.
“Higher moral ground” has never helped any logical arguments, not even in getting heard. It feels like it “should” but I can’t think of any examples where it has been true. If it were true, we would have stopped hearing from the lunatic left long ago.
No, I think it best to lay morality aside in these debates and just rely on the issues, but we differ on this.
progressoverpeace on September 1, 2007 at 3:14 PM
He threatened to spit on his co-worker.
His CO-WORKER.
His CO-WORKER!
Surely Fox has some workplace rules about this?????
I’m trying to imagine that ’stache with a big lugie hanging from it.Can’t believe I said that. Yes, I can. I’m trying to imagine that ’stache with a big lugie hanging from it.fred5678 on September 1, 2007 at 3:16 PM
Lest we forget!
sonnyspats1 on September 1, 2007 at 3:17 PM
Must make you feel like a big man to make a cowardly threat to spit on MM Geraldo.
This only proves you can not win the argument.
You’re flustered and know you are loosing and so you resort to this tactic.
You do know thou this avenue might have some consequences you might not like , remember the broken nose episode from your failed TV show. Nope its wasn’t from a flying chair{another classic Geraldo lie} it was from an upper cut by another man, standing toe to toe with your cowardly ASS.
{You all have no idea how much tongue biting this comment took to write}
Mojack420 on September 1, 2007 at 3:17 PM
Good ol’ self interest. I love it!
Troy Rasmussen on September 1, 2007 at 3:19 PM
I apologize for that gross comment. Sorry. I was on the ceiling with rage at that (deleted).
I will now repent and write a polite email to Fox asking them to admonish Geraldo.
fred5678 on September 1, 2007 at 3:19 PM
No doubt. Speaks volumes about Gerald’s character.
Gregor on September 1, 2007 at 3:20 PM
Fair enough. I won’t labor to convince you other than to note that there are common indicators among sociopathic behavior seen previous to the culmination of horrors (not referring to Geraldo here). Ie warning signs in children such as playing with fire, cruelty to animals, and um, there’s another one that slips my mind at this second. Big things have root in tiny things and that might appear hyperbolic.
If Jesse Jackson made a solid argument, I wouldn’t know because I don’t listen to anything he says anymore. Same with the loony left. Even if a good point is made, would you know it, because they are automatically disregarded.
Spirit of 1776 on September 1, 2007 at 3:24 PM
There are all sorts of things that can be involved when spewing one person’s bodily fluids onto another. Such as having to be tested for HIV, hep A,B and C , TB test just to name a few .
A threat is a threat is a threat time to write fox and see if they do a damn thing about it .
Mojack420 on September 1, 2007 at 3:27 PM
For one thing of course is that saliva is a bodily fluid and can carry diseases like HIV which can be brought into the body through thin membranes around the eyes.
Speakup on September 1, 2007 at 3:29 PM
AP, wasn’t this the same Geraldo that you cautioned hotair commentators to hold off on the ad hominem attacks because “she has to work with this guy”?
Seems that they have nothing to do with each other at Fox and in fact, Geraldo hates her guts anyway.
jihadwatcher on September 1, 2007 at 3:31 PM
It’s also tortious in just about every jurisdiction. Actuallly spitting at someone (and coming close, not doing it from fifty yards away) is civil assault, and connecting is civil battery.
Not to mention grounds for ass-kicking.
see-dubya on September 1, 2007 at 3:31 PM
I read the situation, and I do weigh what is the expedient option and the ‘decent’ or moral option. Sometimes the moral option and the expedient one the same option. So if you are looking for a set of rigid principles, we’re gonna be at this till one or both of us croaks.
In this case, letting Geraldo undermine his own position is the best thing to do. I see it as sacrificing a pawn (letting him escape the obvious punishment), so that I can take his rook (amnesty).
On the flipside, if Michelle were way over the top on the immigration issue in her rhetoric (she’s not of course) as Geraldo, saying she’d spit on him and call him a Nazi, it would be fair game for the left to use her against us (her supporters) if we refused to distance ourselves. It would be the same situation, but in their favor. I’d be unhappy about it, of course, but that would be how the game is played.
I view the left outing gay GOPers as a bad thing because its not that effective a tactic and more importantly a gross invasion of privacy. And I would disagree with us outing a Dem elite too on the same basis.
I’m actually not too bothered by them doing this in the political sense, as I find it to be too weakly effective to be bothered with or even ineffective (remember when they tried to use Mary Cheney as a bludgeon in 04? Backfired!), beyond that, in the ethical sense, that sort of invasion of privacy is immoral enough that it overrides all the other considerations by a wide margin.
Bad Candy on September 1, 2007 at 3:32 PM
Well, watch the clip I posted up top. Occasionally they do come face to face.
I don’t mind angry criticism of him at all, mind you. Go on and have a blast. Just stay away from the really personal nasty ad hominems — like the one he himself engaged in here.
Allahpundit on September 1, 2007 at 3:35 PM
When ever I see this “Dude” on Fox, I immediately change the channel or hit the mute button. What a disgrace he is to a fine news organization.
Do you think he learned how to spit on people when the Viet Nam war was drawing to a close?
If this is his response to someone who disagrees with him then he should move to ABC – NBS – CBS or maybe even PBS.
Ghostbuster on September 1, 2007 at 3:37 PM
That is true, but the problem is that most children go through those experiences in one way or another. There are signs to look for, but one must be careful not to go overboard, as with the gun drawings that those kids were suspended for. When I was in elementary school, most of the boys drew pictures of guns and stuff – when they drew.
Well, they don’t make sound arguments, but they do get air time. And they are not automatically disregarded by most people. People listen to them until the inanity gets to be too much – but they get the entree to make their case.
There have been more than enough examples in American politics/culture to show that no one ever gets credit for having the moral high ground. If that were so, we’d never have had to see Bill Clinton after his term and we wouldn’t be dealing with Hillary right now, just to name two specific cases out of tens of thousands, if not more.
progressoverpeace on September 1, 2007 at 3:39 PM
Okay, got my email off to Fox. I know that what I am about to say may violate the HA rules about violence but,
I hope the fleas of a thousand camels invade Geraldo’s moustache, that big poopie head.
There, I said it and I am glad.
BobK on September 1, 2007 at 3:46 PM
You know, I’m still digesting the idea that people are angry because Allah insists on civil, on-topic commentary. Baffling.
see-dubya on September 1, 2007 at 3:46 PM
Any attacks on women from The Left and the Right are uncalled for. We see it from both sides and it is disgusting and vile behavior.
AprilOrit on September 1, 2007 at 3:47 PM
This is unseemly!
Coronagold on September 1, 2007 at 3:55 PM
I agree. At times he is walking a tightrope and it seems that some here would just as soon push him off.
infidel4life on September 1, 2007 at 3:57 PM
That’s a little misleading. I don’t see anyone arguing whether we should be civil. It’s more a disagreement regarding WHAT is considered to be civil. I personally don’t think wishing for the man to be fired is uncivil. I don’t think calling him a moron or an idiot is uncivil. It’s simply the truth. I don’t think anyone would argue that wishing for his death or injury is out of bounds.
Gregor on September 1, 2007 at 3:57 PM
According to Geraldo’s threat, they will never come face to face again. What else can be derived when says “I’d spit on her IF I ever saw her”?
Doesn’t sound as if he expects to be working with her again. And even if they do meet in the future, it is Geraldo that will have reason to be sheepish.
Not at all. But he has insisted on no ad hominem attacks on Geraldo for reasons having to do with making Michelle uncomfortable in a working relationship with him. According to Geraldo’s latest outrage, a most vile threat accompanying a simple ad hominem, that whole working relationship notion is baffling.
jihadwatcher on September 1, 2007 at 4:09 PM
No argument from me. Patterns is far more telling then singular events. I was trying to answer why one would measure spitting as more offense then other expressions of vitriol. I’ve not cruised to MM’s site to see her take, but just for comparision, recall the guy who called her a political prostitute? (My point here is based on my memory serving correctly, if not I’ll happily stand corrected) I recall that she didn’t say, ‘that’s offensive’, but rather something along the lines of ‘there is only one ___ on this split screen and it’s you’ or something like that. Ie she didn’t find the label offensive as much as she claimed it was misapplied. I’d be surprised to find her say in response here, ‘I’d spit on him’.
That’s a good point. I think it is a factor of different relative values, ie the left sees the moral high ground as something different, but the functional reality of that comes to the conclusion that you put forward. I think it has individual affect, but I can’t argue with the result on a macro scale.
That’s pretty much what my take was at my 1:30 post. I thought you were inclined to triangulate a position based on the expect result. Thanks for the answer.
Spirit of 1776 on September 1, 2007 at 4:13 PM
If I had an ex-friend/boyfriend/husband/associate – fill in the blanks, that even came close to making a threat like this, I’d have a restraining order filed. Verbal threats should be paid serious attention. Thousands of victims of abuse can attest to it. Very fine line between verbal and actual assault. Geraldo has displayed his contempt for women by this slip. Even if his threat is never carried out let’s call it what it is then…….bullying. To silense.
You guys beat me to the disease issue. It’s considered serious enough to suspend very small children from school for spitting.
24K lady on September 1, 2007 at 4:19 PM
Absolutely. Not only that, his comments have escalated. Cringing –> Spitting –> Next?
CrimsonFisted on September 1, 2007 at 4:29 PM
In Illinois spitting on someone IS a misdemeanor battery. I think Rivera has obviously gone too far this time. Fox HAS to censure him somehow or at least demand a big apology. It shows a great lack of poise and character. Decent folks should not have to put up with this behavior in any forum. AP is ABSOLUTELY right about posting at HA. This site is not Huffpo or Kos. It’s a decent place to say appropriate comments about happenings in our wonderful country. To stoop to Jerry’s level wrongs MM and ourselves. Let’s give Fox and Bill a chance to straighten it out.
countywolf on September 1, 2007 at 4:38 PM
Don’t worry, Michelle. I’d run Geraldo over if I ever saw him.
Twice on Sundays.
madmonkphotog on September 1, 2007 at 4:40 PM
With respect to blog comments and traffic, MM was doing just fine without them until she recently allowed them.
Valiant on September 1, 2007 at 4:47 PM
heh
William Amos on September 1, 2007 at 4:53 PM
Not only time for the STRAIGHT-JACKET, lets also add the face mask of Hannibal to stop the spitting…
Legions on September 1, 2007 at 5:00 PM
Hey Gerald….. Remember the skin heads? That will be very minor compared to what you’d get from me if you spit on Michelle in my presence.
I’d be tempted to call Gerald a faggot for that remark, but I don’t want to have to go to rehab (or be banned from HotAir).
LegendHasIt on September 1, 2007 at 5:10 PM
Geraldo is a ghoulish celebrity without any redeeming qualities. This latest threat just shows how truly spineless and unprincipled he is.
PBoilermaker on September 1, 2007 at 5:12 PM
Funny isn’t it – these liberal wankers are always whining about “respect”, “diversity”, “equal rights” ..”blah, blah, blah.” But as soon as they come under any kind of pressure out comes the hate and misogyny that lies just below the surface.
London Boy on September 1, 2007 at 5:16 PM
Michelle, you are correct about illegal immigration, and Geraldo needs to be fired and sued, and forgotten.
AZCON on September 1, 2007 at 5:23 PM
Hmmm. It does not surprise me that Geraldo wants to register his contempt for Michelle, after all
1) Michelle is a patriot, and Geraldo is a traitor that gives away the positions of our soldiers in live on-camera interviews,
2) Michelle is a woman, and Geraldo is a misogynist that is COMPELLED to abuse women on a continual/perpetual basis — ask ANY of his numerous ex-wives that he was so fond of cheating on,
3) Michelle is Filipina, and Geraldo is a racist Latino/ Spanish Conquistador wanna-be — the guy is beside himself with grief because he was born more than 100 years too late. He missed out on 300 years of raping, pillaging, and other general mistreatments of the Asian peoples that inhabit the Philippine Islands (at the hands of little Spanish speaking guys with mustaches — just like him).
4) Michelle’s physical stature is that of a tiny 5 foot 99 lb female, so Geraldo will naturally try to intimidate her with threats of physical abuse. Effeminate little twerps like him are not man enough to pick a fight with a man — what do you bet that he got beat-up on a daily basis by the school yard bully and that these sorts of threats are a manifestation of Geraldo’s very own self-loathing?
5) Michelle’s investigative/literary/journalistic talents are legion and her on-screen poise and presence are nothing short of stunning. It is clear that Michelle has a great deal of passion for her work, that she got to where she is at based on her merits, and that she is using her God given gifts/talents as He intended. Geraldo is not just threatened by all of this, but he absolutely despises her –because deep down inside he KNOWS that he is a fraud and a shameless shill that cares for NOTHING and NO ONE except for the opportunities that arise for stroking his ego, making a buck, and seeing himself on-camera in front of plenty of women.
As for the spitting itself, someone should ask Geraldo if his adopted behaviors are based on what he has learned by hanging-out in the men’s room at various airports around the country.
Another commenter has already pointed out the difference between Geraldo and a pit-viper — but if FoxNews is going to keep a pet snake on the premises, they should at least have the decency to have the animal defanged, donchathink’?
What to do, what to do. My collie says:
CyberCipher on September 1, 2007 at 5:45 PM
Good Post.
I hope Geraldo reads it.
Seriously, Geraldo…did your brain give way? quit Thinking somewhere along the way? I want to like you, but come on. Use your head. The one above your shoulders, please.
bridgetown on September 1, 2007 at 6:02 PM
If this is his response to someone who disagrees with him then he should move to ABC – NBS – CBS or maybe even PBS.
Ghostbuster on September 1, 2007 at 3:37 PM
Sounds like that is what he is angling for – a job on a network where he’s elitist opinions will never, ever, ever, be challanged.
This is, in the view of the left, a macho man – to spit on women who don’t toe your party line.
CrazyFool on September 1, 2007 at 6:38 PM
Not necessarily, I’ll take the moral stance on certain issues whether or not it advances my immediate cause too. To simply say I’m simply looking for the best result every time is a vast oversimplification.
I have morals, but I’m not going to let myself miss every opportunity I have handed to me because I’m bound by some rigid ethical code, sometimes you have to bend the rules to get ahead, particularly in the political arena when dealing with unscrupulous leftist demagogues.
I find it interesting that Allah pretty much says the same as I do w/regard to whether to call for Geraldo to be booted, yet I’m the one getting interrogated. Not that I care, just a curious observation.
Bad Candy on September 1, 2007 at 6:48 PM
Yep, they are thrashing G.R. over at LGF and doing a fine job of it too. The only problem I have with that is the same argument Allah used. At what point does someone cherry pick a response and send it spinning around the world. But, MM has some great fans over there.
Seriously, with his red-in-the-face encounters with anyone that disagrees with him, his attacks against following the rule of law regarding immigration (while at the same time lauding his legal background), and now making personal threats….he is a liability and FOX should be very afraid of his conduct.
24K lady on September 1, 2007 at 7:13 PM
Rivera’s shown his true charactor … how Fox and O’Reilly respond will show their’s … if they remain silent, it will be quite telling and disappointing …
Paul
pbary on September 1, 2007 at 7:37 PM
I’m going to try this again. It seems my last post disappeared into thin air.
Geraldo was overly emotional in his words and he should take a deep breath and relax a bit.
Geraldo is trying not to become a Oscar Zeta Acosta. Yet in many ways he has become this way. If anyone remembers, back in the 1960’s, Acosta was for “Chicano Power” and he was Hunter S. Thompson’s lawyer. Remember, “Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas”? (See “Where the Buffalo Roam” with Bill Murray and Peter Boyle also. The movie has become a cult classic as well as the Johnny Depp/Benicio del Toro, Fear and Loathing movie.)
Mr. Acosta wrote 2 books called, “The Autobiography of the Brown Buffalo” and “The Revolt of the Cockroaches”. Enlightening and disturbing at the same time.
Read this, too.
kiakjones on September 1, 2007 at 7:41 PM
Oooh. “Nativist”. Yeah, it doesn’t get much more vicious than that.
LagunaDave on September 1, 2007 at 8:00 PM
I follow, I’m not trying to box you in.
To answer your note of curiosity – AP has courteously answered my questions in the past, I understand his view point. Don’t need him to do that again on this issue, and so was just fleshing out yours of out of my own curiosity. (And you do have different frames of reference thus perhaps different motivations)
Spirit of 1776 on September 1, 2007 at 8:27 PM
Considering the macho angle he’s forever wed to being a latin, no doubt he would spit on her. It’s killing him he can’t settle this the natural way. He should check with one of the Red Sox players on technique for employing the ballplayer’s wife smack, twirl and stuff maneuver.
pc on September 1, 2007 at 8:48 PM
I email O’Reilly…..
Allahpundit on September 1 2007,at 1:29PM.
But it only takes a few,You are absolutely right.
Thats what brought me to Hot Air,clear and rational talk,
no name calling,swearing,or moonbat conspiracys,and
Conservative Republicans that think alike.
And your right,what gets said on this blog does reflect
Michele,as Republicans,as an example with Sen. Larry Craig
if there’s a problem the Repulican Party will take care of their own.
canopfor on September 1, 2007 at 10:03 PM
My message to Gerald Rivers: “Come over here to Baghdad where I am, outside the I/Z, and try that with me.”
No real man says that about any lady around this old boy.
Texas Nick 77 on September 1, 2007 at 10:06 PM
Geez, Geraldo, give it up. Take the low road and compete with Maury and Jerry. Maybe your show can specialize on how illegals are being intimated by the “man.” Throw in some mixed up love affairs (he don’t speeks Enkish, but their is room in my sinkle wide of love) , and paternalism suits. Come on right before Oprah!
Wuptdo on September 1, 2007 at 10:24 PM
Geraldo.
The little girl in you is showing..
Texyank on September 1, 2007 at 10:29 PM
Fair enough.
Bad Candy on September 1, 2007 at 10:43 PM
Explains it all. I have to believe the white powder rumored to be ubiquitous in that time and place probably took a toll on the gray cells.
No excuse for the bad manners, though.
And no excuses for BOR if he doesn’t bar the pr-ck from his show, and for Fox if they renew his contract.
fred5678 on September 1, 2007 at 10:52 PM
It would appear that El Mustache is attempting to reach the Alec Baldwin level of insanity. Baldwin is a woman and child abuser. Can Jerry’s next step be far behind?
pocomoco on September 1, 2007 at 11:07 PM
Geraldo is looking for attention, as he always has been. I still don’t know why Fox didn’t fire him 4 years ago.
Michelle is rocking the factor. Bill who?
Pablo on September 1, 2007 at 11:29 PM
Michelle hates no one, not even Geraldo despite his bitter and mean spirited statement against her. Everything in Michelle’s countenance testifies to her good nature, and to being a kind and generous persons. Yet, not a person that will be intimidated or pushed around by anyone, she know how to be combative and how to win a fight.
Geraldo, on the other hand is completely self-righteous, he views all things from elitists ivory tower. Geraldo looks in the mirror and sees a Saint, because in his eyes, he is the great defender of the poor and downtrodden. But in reality, his Sainthood is hubris wrapped in hypocrisy.
For wealthy Geraldo, there is no burden too great that it should not be imposed upon the American people. From the heights of Geraldo ivory tower, he can see no reason why a constant flow of illegals crossing the border should not be gleefully accepted and supported by the American taxpayer. He feels no strain from increased taxation and can see no diminishment of resources and services intended for those who pay the bills.
It’s easy for Geraldo to advocate limitless generosity and tolerance of illegals because he will never suffer the impact of such policies.
Geraldo will never be denied medical services because illegals have drained the system and there are no resources left over for impoverished Americans. Geraldo’s children will never sit in overcrowded classrooms because too many parents came illegally and took advantage of the system. Geraldo’s property will never be trespassed by border crossers like those citizens that live near the border, he won’t find drug paraphernalia strewn about his backyard or encounter desperate looking strangers roaming his property. His neighborhood will never become an overcrowded haven for migrant workers. His hospitals will not become overburdened because of unpaid services rendered to those who are here illegally.
It is always average Americans that must pay and pay for those who continually take advantage of our good will. They take advantage of our easy going policies which allow those not entitled, to receive as though they were.
Of course, Geraldo himself is unfazed by the never ending generosity he demands of others. Americans get to pay the endless bills and suffer the ever increasing burdens, and Geraldo gets to feel good about himself because he defends the poor.
In Geraldo’s eyes, American’s greatest sin comes once we realize our goodwill is overextended, the limit has been reached and we can give no more. So we call for the laws to be enforced and that is when the Geraldo’s of the world shout from their ivory towers that we are haters and nativist and racist and much worse.
The core element of liberalism is the belief that some people have the right to give away other people’s money. It is so very easy to be generous with other people’s money and this is the essence of Geraldo’s hypocrisy.
Michelle of course, speaks up for everyday American. She doesn’t hate Mexicans but like so many of us, she has grown tired of seeing our country being taken advantage of by our neighbors to the south. She may be concerned for our sovereignty and our culture and she is clearly concerned about the rule of law. None of that makes Michelle a hater, much to the contrary, it shows she is a concerned and responsible citizen and a fine journalist for addressing such a volatile issue.
If Geraldo never owed an apology to anyone in his entire life, he certainly now owes Michelle the most sincere and humble apology he can muster. I hope he surprises me and delivers on that apology, but I feel the odds are against it.
Maxx on September 2, 2007 at 12:37 AM
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