Zogby poll: Most American don’t think the war is lost

posted at 9:15 am on August 29, 2007 by Bryan

That’s the good news: 54% of Americans polled don’t think that the war in Iraq is already lost. The bad news, though it’s hardly surprising, is that there is a massive split on this question along party lines.

While two in three Democrats (66%) said the war effort has already failed, just 9% of Republicans say the same.

The Petraeus report is due next month; if the Democrats in Vancouver are any hint, that 66% isn’t likely to change no matter what the General says. He could bring the head of Moqtada al-Sadr in a box and plop it down on the table in front of him, and it may not change a thing.

For more than three hours Monday night, Rep. Brian Baird was verbally flogged by hundreds of his constituents for no longer supporting the quick withdrawal of troops from Iraq…

While some people left the Vancouver meeting saying they respected Baird’s sincerity, the town hall had to have been a particularly brutal experience for the congressman. At several points, he pleaded with the crowd to let him finish his explanation. One woman told him the blood of the troops was now on his hands, and several said he was violating the wishes of his constituents.

“We don’t care what your convictions are,” said Jan Lustig of Vancouver. “You are here to represent us.”

Baird had just returned from Iraq, where he saw progress with his own eyes. His Democrat voters didn’t want to hear it.

Back to the poll. It holds some good news for Rudy Giuliani.

Asked which of the 2008 presidential candidates would best handle the war in Iraq, Rudy Giuliani topped the list with 14% support, followed by Fred Thompson (11%), Hillary Clinton (10%), Barack Obama (9%), John McCain and Joe Biden (7%), John Edwards (5%), and Mitt Romney, Ron Paul, Bill Richardson and Dennis Kucinich at 4%. But overall, more Americans said they were unsure (15%) than supported any single candidate to best handle the war.

If you’re Bill Richardson, finishing between Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich can’t be heartening.

There’s one thing that nearly all Americans agree on: Congress stinks.

In this latest online poll, 27% give President Bush a positive rating on his handling of the war in Iraq, up slightly from 24% who gave the president favorable marks in July. While the President’s approval for his handling of the war showed slight gains, Congress remains stuck at just a 3% positive rating for its handling of the war, unchanged from polling last month. Congress faces overwhelming dissatisfaction among Democrats – 95% give Congress negative ratings for handling the war, compared to 94% who felt that way in July.

Who are those 3% who actually approve of the nonsense emanating from the Capitol?


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Who are those 3% who actually approve of the nonsense emanating from the Capitol?

Why, those serving in Congress, of course. They really really like themselves.

nailinmyeye on August 29, 2007 at 9:21 AM

i wonder how long the uptick in bush approval will last, his speech the other day on vietnam didnt seem to go down that well, and then you have gonzalez and rove quiting, and of course the taint from craig will stick to someone…

zane on August 29, 2007 at 9:22 AM

For want of votes the Dems courted the lunatics, the slackers, the conspiracy freaks and the morally bankrupt. It’s no surprise then that they are being eaten alive by their constituents. It’s hard to make insane people happy. I think the way Congress is being treated by the left is a good indicator of how they would treat a President if they manage to elect one.

Guardian on August 29, 2007 at 9:35 AM

I imagine the 3% are made up of DC tools.

Bad Candy on August 29, 2007 at 9:51 AM

Who are those 3% who actually approve of the nonsense emanating from the Capitol?

Probably the same 3% who cruise bathroom looking for some action.
Or the 3% who are truthers.

There are always that “3%”, in everything we do in life.

right2bright on August 29, 2007 at 10:02 AM

Baird had just returned from Iraq, where he saw progress with his own eyes. His Democrat voters didn’t want to hear it.

Cover ears … LaLaLaLaLa …. LaLaLaLaLa …. LaLaLaLaLa

We will hear the same thing from the Donks when Petraeus testifies before congress next month.

fogw on August 29, 2007 at 10:18 AM

Who are those 3% who actually approve of the nonsense emanating from the Capitol?

The ones with the microphones and cameras, of course.

This is going to be a very interesting couple of elections in 2008 and 2010.

Looks to me like the American People are more than ready for change all around. It’s time to clean House; Senate too.

techno_barbarian on August 29, 2007 at 10:38 AM

27% give President Bush a positive rating on his handling of the war in Iraq,

3% positive rating for its handling of the war,

Things that make you go………….Hmmmmm, Bush gets 27 for his position, thats 24 percent more than congress for the same issue, (9 times as popular with the public as congress) perhaps congress ought to STFU and STFD and take some advice from the president.

doriangrey on August 29, 2007 at 10:45 AM

Looks to me like the American People are more than ready for change all around. It’s time to clean House; Senate too.

techno_barbarian on August 29, 2007 at 10:38 AM

Yeah but nothing will change if the type of candidates don’t. We are who and where we are in Congress because of who and where we are in society.

JiangxiDad on August 29, 2007 at 10:48 AM

Eric Donero, Ron Paul’s fomer manager has an interesting Mailing(US taxpayer funded) Ron Paul is sending out in his district.
http://libertarianrepublican.blogspot.com/2007/08/ron-paul-talks-tough-on-terrorism-must.html

apparently RP is a ‘tough on terror’ hawk in his district, advocating all sorts of things that contridict his national rhetoric.

jp on August 29, 2007 at 10:49 AM

Yeah but nothing will change if the type of candidates don’t. We are who and where we are in Congress because of who and where we are in society.

JiangxiDad on August 29, 2007 at 10:48 AM

Totally agreed. But I am encouraged that we seem to be getting completely fed up with our leaders. I realize that the reason that the dems are down on congress is because they’ve been unsuccessful at surrendering, which goes straight to your point.

We’re a divided nation and it’s going to take time for the lies and propaganda to shake out and be exposed. A lot of time.

People will eventually look back on this period in history with shame and derrision at how openly spineless we currently are.

The pendulum will eventually swing back the other way. And probably too far at some point; because it is so far to the left now it’s going to leave a permanent societal scar on the American psyche.

techno_barbarian on August 29, 2007 at 11:02 AM

I’ve got to give Rep. Brian Baird some credit. It took some gum balls to stand up in front of that mob demanding retreat and tell them, “Hey, I saw some real progress in Iraq, maybe pulling out isn’t such a good idea.”. It didn’t nake him popular and his defeatocrat constituents are pissed over it but at least he did it anyways.

Yakko77 on August 29, 2007 at 11:10 AM

Michael Medved has a good article today on the GOP field for President, calling it possibly the best field we’ve ever had.

jp on August 29, 2007 at 11:14 AM

Who are those 3% who actually approve of the nonsense emanating from the Capitol?

The one congressman they accidentally called in the course of the polling

DUH!

One Angry Christian on August 29, 2007 at 11:14 AM

Rudy Giuliani topped the list with 14% support, followed by Fred Thompson (11%), Hillary Clinton (10%), Barack Obama (9%), John McCain and Joe Biden (7%), John Edwards (5%), and Mitt Romney, Ron Paul, Bill Richardson and Dennis Kucinich at 4%.

Oh.My.Goodness.

Which is more astonishing? :

- That more people think Fred Thompson is better equipped to manage Iraq than Mitt Romney?

- That more people think Barry Hussein is better equipped to manage Iraq than John McCain?

- That anyone thinks that anyone is better equipped to manage Iraq than John McCain?

or

- That after four years, several major mistakes and corrections, enormous political pressure, and 100% clear hindsight, the highest rated candidate for President gets half of the rating that the reviled Chimpy McHalliBusHitler is presently getting for managing the war in Iraq?!

Jaibones on August 29, 2007 at 11:24 AM

If you’re Bill Richardson, finishing between Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich can’t be heartening.

His numbers are lower than they should be. They didn’t poll the illegal alien voters.

Kowboy on August 29, 2007 at 11:46 AM

They are already beating the drums on kos that the General is nothing but a puppet.
No matter what he says, kos and his band of idiots will ignore it and say he is a lier.

ArmyAunt on August 29, 2007 at 12:31 PM

oops liar lol.

ArmyAunt on August 29, 2007 at 12:31 PM

Most AmericanS don’t think the war is lost

Americans being the key word.

/sarc on

I think the first question in the poll was: Are you wearing pink? If the answer was “yes”, they were ignored.

/sarc off

On-my-soap-box on August 29, 2007 at 1:02 PM

Don’t forget the reason that democrat voters’ disapprove of how the Congress has handled the war in Iraq. They are angry that we haven’t cut and run already. They won’t be voting for any candidates with (R) next to their names in 2008.
The possible silver lining is that some of the democrat voters may be upset enough to stay home next November.

Hey, I can dream, right?

common sensineer on August 29, 2007 at 1:21 PM

Who are those 3% who actually approve of the nonsense emanating from the Capitol?

Easy, the margin of error.

Kini on August 29, 2007 at 1:22 PM

Zogby poll: Most American don’t think the war is lost

Hey Bryan, your typo or Zogby’s?

On-my-soap-box on August 29, 2007 at 1:36 PM

54% of Americans polled don’t think that the war in Iraq is already lost.

Lost??? It’s already been won and quite some time ago.

WMD – ✓
Odai and Qusay – ✓
Saddam – ✓
Zarqawi – ✓
Elections – ✓

What remains to be done?

Deciding if Mohammed’s rightful successor was Umar or Ali? That’s for the Iraqis to figure out.

MB4 on August 29, 2007 at 2:26 PM

What is even more interesting is that Zogby trends to the liberal side of the polling spectrum.

Terri on August 29, 2007 at 4:30 PM