Its really interesting….

I’d rather be called a “truther” than an evolutionist. :-)

There is nothing more absurd than the theory of evolution.

I’m sure the guy in the video did many… many takes before he got all the coins in the cups. And there is skill involved, he obviously practices this a lot, so really I don’t see what is so amazing about this or why people say its got to be fake.

Look at what Allah our resident expert on spotting phony videos had to say, he doesn’t seem to think its fake either because he doesn’t see any splicing or artifacts.

I still don’t think it’s fake Lone Star, but if you do… well that’s what makes HotAir fun, people with different points of view.

I can’t speak for doriangrey, but I assure you I am no evolutionist, I’m a creationist all the way and always have been.

I’m sure the guy in the video took many.. many takes before he got all of the coins in the cups. And yes, there is a lot of luck involved, but some skill too if you practice it enough.

doriangrey on August 29, 2007 at 12:19 PM

Maxx on August 29, 2007 at 3:24 PM

ROFL. You guys are a crack-up. Unless you’re the ones who shot the video, you must be evolutionists to be arguing that such a level of sheer chance could actually be true.

Bingo, my point exactly. As I posted you can see the switch, very amatuer, didn’t catch the bulge.

The ones that think this could be done, well, now you know how “truthers” are born. Gullible in one area, gullible in others.

right2bright on August 29, 2007 at 7:56 AM

I posted here short of 1:00am last night, and revisited to see how the rest of the discussion panned out.
It was a fun discussion about something of no consequence to anyone. Then I see this comment about “truthers”. Good job.

RedCrow on August 29, 2007 at 3:00 PM

Exactly! Whoever is right or wrong in this thread, it is of less consequence than whoever wins the next football game. Some people cannot help but to get emotionally involved with their position, their pride becomes attached to their view, and to disagree with them, no matter how trivial the issue is to be shot with the “Truther” gun. Very sad, very immature.

Bingo, my point exactly. As I posted you can see the switch, very amatuer, didn’t catch the bulge.

The ones that think this could be done, well, now you know how “truthers” are born. Gullible in one area, gullible in others.

right2bright on August 29, 2007 at 7:56 AM

I posted here short of 1:00am last night, and revisited to see how the rest of the discussion panned out.
It was a fun discussion about something of no consequence to anyone. Then I see this comment about “truthers”. Good job.

well did anyone?

pedestrian on August 29, 2007 at 1:08 PM

From this point forward pedestrian, no matter how much you try to deny it, you will always be the guy that can’t bounce a quarter on it’s edge.

Has anyone managed to bounce any quarters on edge yet?

I tried, doesn’t happen.

pedestrian on August 29, 2007 at 12:12 PM

You’ve just taken this thread to a whole new level of absurdly.

Has anyone managed to bounce any quarters on edge yet?

I tried, doesn’t happen.

pedestrian on August 29, 2007 at 12:12 PM

There you go…Now thats what I’m talking about, the kind of indisputable proof we needed all along. pedestrian cant get a quarter to bounce on its edge, so ergo it cannot be done. Well done pedestrian I applaud your superior logic. /snark

Or maybe you just haven’t bothered to watch it frame by frame, otherwise you would have figured out that what happened is he discovered that he couldn’t stand up from his chair without putting his hands on the table because his chair was slightly under the table. The second thing he discovers is that he cant put his hands on the table to lift himself up without misaligning the coins in his hand. If you were to actually watch it frame by frame you would discover that his hands never go farther then the wrist to the edge of the table. In other words his hands never leave the table, so no dropping of or pocketing of anything occurs.

But your obviously right, just because the video evidence clearly when viewed frame by frame obliterates your theory is no reason to believe this is anything other than a fake.

I tried, doesn’t happen.

Maxx on August 29, 2007 at 10:40 AM

LOL. Oh really?! Then why does he have to even sit in the first place? Why not start the video with him standing beside the table, showing the coins to the camera, and then throwing them? Because he needs an excuse to move his arms to cover the view of the camera while he pocketed the coins. Sheesh.

Or maybe there’s an invisible leprechaun behind him who palms them. LOL

I think its time to let it go Maxx, like the 911 truthers there are some people (even here at HotAir) that no matter how much evidence you give them they are going to see every thing as a fraud/conspiracy…As someone else said, this is how “truthers” are born.

You can see him cover his right hand, in which he is holding the quarters, with his left hand as he gets up from the table. This is to cover him slipping the quarters into his jacket pocket. You can see them bulging as he stands.

Lone Star on August 29, 2007 at 1:42 AM

That’s just not true, he does not slip the coins into his pocket, you can see the coins between his fingers after he is standing and just prior to the downward movement of his arm for the bounce. Everybody gets so hung-up on the fact that he covers the coins with his hands prior to standing, they think that’s where the “big trick” is, but it’s irrelevant.

Probably he’s just straitening coins into a perfect column between his fingers for the bounce. But whatever his purpose, he clearly did not slip the coins into his pocket, you can see the coins still between his fingers after he’s standing. The coins are not easy to see because the lighting is bad, but even with my old eyes I can see them in several frames prior to the bounce.

Good job, all!

Lone Star on August 29, 2007 at 1:42 AM

Bingo, my point exactly. As I posted you can see the switch, very amatuer, didn’t catch the bulge.

The ones that think this could be done, well, now you know how “truthers” are born. Gullible in one area, gullible in others.

You can see him cover his right hand, in which he is holding the quarters, with his left hand as he gets up from the table. This is to cover him slipping the quarters into his jacket pocket. You can see them bulging as he stands. The camera pulls back, he acts as if he’s throwing them against the table and the rest is computer effects. Notice that they don’t show you the inside of the glasses before the trick because there are quarters already in there.

I’m not sure which is more evidence of a wasted life, it being real or it being fake. At least the Numa Numa dance guy was getting some exercise.

Here it is again for those who don’t BACKREAD…

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t57/Thomzilla/CoinBounceHuckster.gif

SilverStar830 on August 28, 2007 at 6:08 PM

I read all of the comments prior to this one. I agree with dorian. (I agree with others that it probably took many ‘takes’.)

First, the guy does hide the quarters with his left hand as he’s getting up. But, he didn’t palm them–the fingers of his left hand are slightly spread (and not particularly cupped), and his thumb is ‘loose’.

Second, the ‘break-down’ provided by SilverStar of frame shots omits the release of the quarters (in my opinion). It skips from the guy getting up, to his hand slapped against the table (which, of course, is after the release).

Haven’t analyzed the shadows, don’t think I will. Last thing is that dorian’s right again when he talks about the position of the shot glasses and the trajectory of the quarters. The coins on the outside will have a lateral force exerted on them by their neighbor, those in the middle will travel a parabola more true to the motion of the guy’s arm.

If it’s faked…well, this guy & his buddy got too much time on their hands.