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BadgerHawk on August 28, 2007 at 9:58 AM

What, was anybody actually expecting Christiane Amanpour to be objective? If she had a mustache and a penis, she’d be Geraldo.

radjah shelduck on August 28, 2007 at 10:03 AM

God’s Warriors was like watching someone compare Hezballah (Army of God) to the Salvation Army. Yes, they are both armies, but one fires rockets at people and the other gives old coats to people. Well, except for the militant wing of the Salvation Army.

BohicaTwentyTwo on August 28, 2007 at 10:06 AM

C’mon Dan, what about all of the Christian and Jewish suicide bombers?

How come we never hear anything about them on the news?

It’s a media blackout!

Find the Christian and Jewish suicide bombers now!

profitsbeard on August 28, 2007 at 10:08 AM

Apparently Joe was on the right side too.

How’s this for a quote from Amanpour:

You know, it’s really nice, but I really strongly feel — and I feel more and more — that our job is simply to stick to the basics of what this profession is about. It’s about reporting without fear nor favor. It’s about recognizing the serious in this world and going out and telling the stories, giving a voice to those who don’t have a voice, and just simply trying to tell the truth, because our viewers really want it, they really deserve it. And, you know, whether it’s against dictators, or whether it’s in elected governments, we must always remember that our job is not to be part of the propaganda campaign, but to report without fear nor favor, because if we don’t, we can get really into a big disaster. And I, as you know, feel very strongly that that’s what happened in the lead-up to the Iraq war.

MT on August 28, 2007 at 10:16 AM

If there was ever a segment that screamed out for Robert Spencer’s participation it was this one. Dan missed a golden opportunity to better frame the distinctions. Otherwise, kudos to him for even taking on the subject.

TheBigOldDog on August 28, 2007 at 10:25 AM

If any part of Christiane Amanpour’s piece were accurate and objectively representative of the truth, then her bruised and bloated body would have been found in a dusty, filthy alleyway, headless, and her hooded head would be found a mile away on a pike.

Muslims = terrorists and murderers, thousands of examples, sickening even to read about. Theocrats with religious imperial dreams of a worldwide caliphate.

Christians = peaceniks with an ancient and checkered history of governmental excesses, and a present day reality of universally positive outreach to poor people in communities all over the world. Some hilarious and widely reported incidents of sexual hypocrisy and abuse.

Jews = a small tribe of ancient peoples with roots in the cradle of civilization near Jerusalem and an astonishing history of persecution, the forefathers of the Christian religion, and a present day that is largely secular and wildly diverse, but also religious and sometimes orthodox faith, hunkered down in a UN-created nation surrounded by Koranimals. They are supported militarily by the hyperpower U.S., and willing to defend themselves to the death.

Jaibones on August 28, 2007 at 10:28 AM

MT on August 28, 2007 at 10:08 AM

Oh, and of course, PMSNBC will be using the Abrams segment for the next 5 years as an offset against every other program they have run since their inception.

“How can you say that, didn’t you the Dan Abrams piece on …?!”

Jaibones on August 28, 2007 at 10:30 AM

MT on August 28, 2007 at 10:16 AM

[W]e must always remember that our job is not to be part of the propaganda campaign…”

Unless Saddam Hussein asks us to be a part of it.

TheBigOldDog on August 28, 2007 at 10:31 AM

Jaibones on August 28, 2007 at 10:28 AM

I love you man.

JiangxiDad on August 28, 2007 at 10:39 AM

So weird…I thought Muslim women were meant to keep quiet and do men’s bidding.

MadisonConservative on August 28, 2007 at 10:20 AM

Worse, the brazen harlot’s head was uncovered! Where are my hurling stones?

Blacklake on August 28, 2007 at 10:43 AM

On our small TV system in our man-camp (outside the green zone in Baghdad), we get three “news channels”: CNN, BBC, and Al-Jarreza. I haven’t watched any TV since I got here.

Mrs. James Rubin is the Dan Rather of CNN.

Texas Nick 77 on August 28, 2007 at 10:47 AM

Texas Nick 77 on August 28, 2007 at 10:47 AM

I’ve seen your name posted here but didn’t know you were serving in Iraq.

Had I known I would have said thank you to you sooner, and to the others you are with.

I am grateful to you. I am sorry you get crappy, biased TV.

I know this is a longshot, but I have a kind of slight acquaintance with someone senior at Fox. Could you tell me why you don’t get Fox?

JiangxiDad on August 28, 2007 at 10:56 AM

Texas Nick 77 on August 28, 2007 at 10:47 AM

Sorry to hear you can only pick-up broadcasts from TedTurnerstan CNN, Londonistan BBC and Jihadistan Al Jazeera.

Keep checking in here at HotAir for some truth and sanity. Spread the word to your fellow troops.

Thank you for your service.

fogw on August 28, 2007 at 11:15 AM

JiangxiDad on August 28, 2007 at 10:39 AM

I’m feelin’ the love, brother.

Jaibones on August 28, 2007 at 11:21 AM

csdeven on August 28, 2007 at 11:21 AM

How about it? The lunchroom might be a little tense for the next few … years.

Jaibones on August 28, 2007 at 11:24 AM

Another intelligent conversation? On MSNBC? Yikes! It’s Bizarro World!

Seriously, a good piece. I think the point is that Muslims are victims, but of their own doing, or lack thereof. The Iraqis have largely rejected Islamic Fundamentalism - the violence - by taking up the fight against it, with our help. They need this win as much as we do.

Bacchus on August 28, 2007 at 11:40 AM

Great - the video won’t play for me. :-(

JimRich on August 28, 2007 at 11:45 AM

Texas Nick 77 thank you and all your fellow soldiers for giving us here at home the freedoms we are so lucky to have…Thank you and do be safe.

oldernslower on August 28, 2007 at 12:02 PM

Texas Nick 77 thank you and all your fellow soldiers for giving us here at home the freedoms we are so lucky to have…Thank you and do be safe.

oldernslower on August 28, 2007 at 12:02 PM

Thank you, but again see my post above. I did my time in the service as a “bubblehead” on a sub back in the Vietnam days. I’m over here rebuilding much-neglected power plants as a contractor. I will, however, relay your thoughts and prayers to the gentlemen of the US Army that watch over us day and night. No one appreciates them more than we do here.

Texas Nick 77 on August 28, 2007 at 12:09 PM

Texas 77 i should have read that slower and paid more attention(On our small TV system in our man-camp (outside the green zone in Baghdad)…still ty for your service yrs ago and taking the risks your do at this time in order to help with our governments plans to liberate all Irag and providing more needed relief for the Iraqi citizens.

oldernslower on August 28, 2007 at 12:17 PM

I love it when anti-Christians bring up Oklahoma City and abortion clinic bombings….

rockbend on August 28, 2007 at 11:17 AM

Especially since the Oklahoma City bombing wasn’t motivated by religion at all, and it’s questionable whether McVey even considered himself a Christian at the time. But hey- at least he was a White Male Oppressor!

The abortion bombings are inexcusable, but pretty rare; even more rarely is someone hurt or killed. Almost never do you hear of a Christian religious official urging their members to blow up abortion clinics or refer to those who do as “martyrs”. Not that it matters to the moronic moral equivalency brigade of course.

Hollowpoint on August 28, 2007 at 12:25 PM

Amanpour compares a dress code at a University to the Taliban - what no one brought up is that at that University, someone is not going to be stoned, kicked, beaten, arrested, or killed, for not obeying the dress code. People are free to enter into the University, and are free to leave. This is not the case with the Taliban - or with Muslim Extremism in general. And, when the Rev was asked about it…he dropped the ball.

It is just ridiculous to compare “extremists” of the three faiths. Look at a list of attacks perpetrated by jihadis, and then look at a list of attacks on abortion clinics. Is there a difference in number? In fatalities? Most importantly - is there is difference in response/condemnation from mainstream members of the religion involved?

nailinmyeye on August 28, 2007 at 12:37 PM

Umm. Wow. Kudos to MSNBC for saying it like it is.

Good job Mr Abrahms.

Shame on Amanpour. A foreign concept to her since she is a devote believer in moral relativism–as well as obviously anti-christian and most certainly an anti-semite.

Montana on August 28, 2007 at 12:46 PM

Wow. I seriously doubt Dan Abrams calls himself a conservative (this is MSNBC, after all), but he’s likely in the vein of JFK/Scoop Jackson/Truman Democrats and traditional liberals who don’t think objectivity is an outmoded concept used by those who don’t understand “nuance” and refuse to “speak truth to power.”

To be honest, the conservatives of today are more like the old liberals (we’re talking pre-20th century here), what with free trade, limited government intervention, human rights, et al. The classic liberals became conservatives because the modern liberals became socialists. More intriguing is the two-party systems. The Republican Party of Abraham Lincoln was a reform party that had a wide-sweeping social agenda of abolishing slavery. The Democratic Party stood for the status quo. Now, everyone’s perception is that the Republicans support the status quo and the Democrats are “progressive.” I believe this has roots in when the Democrats became overtaken by the Communists. Somehow, classic liberal positions became conservative only because Communism/Socialism was so much further to the left of them.

BKennedy on August 28, 2007 at 1:07 PM

i would be careful calling people “koranimals” this word has been banned on LGF and JihadWatch…

zane on August 28, 2007 at 1:23 PM

What, was anybody actually expecting Christiane Amanpour to be objective? If she had a mustache and a penis, she’d be Geraldo.

radjah shelduck on August 28, 2007 at 10:03 AM

Is anyone really certain that she doesn’t?

Jonas Parker on August 28, 2007 at 1:38 PM

What an incompetent web designer who coded that video. Why.

Christoph on August 28, 2007 at 1:58 PM

I watched several segmants of the aformentioned program to see if CNN can actual produce an unbiased program concerning religion. And I must say this was not even close to being a balanced look at the three major religions. It just was an attempt to further jestify Islamic terroroism. At no point were the Muslim terrorist held accountable for their actions. The segmants shown by Dan Abrams were not the worst case of obvious bias. But I agree, the voices apposing Ms. Hasan were not as well spoken or as aggressive. Maybe they should spend more time standing in the streets and yelling moronic statemnets. Instead of actually studing facts.

Zaire67 on August 28, 2007 at 3:17 PM

Especially since the Oklahoma City bombing wasn’t motivated by religion at all,

I wish you would re-think that opinion. Every action taken by a devout Muslim is motivated by their religion(of peace). Jihadi’s had made it known some years back that they wanted to hook up with anyone in the U.S. who harbored a hatred for Israel and the Jews, which made neo-Nazi groups a natural for connections. What they wanted was someone who would not appear “middle-eastern”, thereby avoiding us blaming Islamists for terrorist acts that might be committed in the USA. It was speculated by some at the time of McVey’s arrest that he had some help, but as you recall, he maintained that he acted solo. I always thought that Janet Reno was in a REAL BIG hurry to see McVey executed, especially considering the Left’s view of capital punishment. Getting answers from a dead guy is a tough thing to do. We’ll never know, but given McVey’s links to neo-Nazi groups it sure seemed that the administration wanted McVey disposed of quickly.

Just a thought…

BTW Mein Kampf is still one of the best selling books in the Arab world.

oldleprechaun on August 28, 2007 at 7:48 PM

forest on August 28, 2007 at 3:15 PM

Koranimals*.

(* I take no credit for this, the funniest taunt I have ever heard about these 7th century heathens. Whomever made this up, feel free to take a curtain call)

Jaibones on August 28, 2007 at 9:33 PM