I’m not sure I’d say it wouldn’t happen ever in Canada, but it’s clear there’s no legal basis for it to happen there anymore, and I think that’s certainly praiseworthy.

* Voted YES on constitutional ban of same-sex marriage. (Jun 2006)
* Voted NO on adding sexual orientation to definition of hate crimes. (Jun 2002)
* Voted NO on expanding hate crimes to include sexual orientation. (Jun 2000)
* Voted YES on prohibiting same-sex marriage. (Sep 1996)
* Voted NO on prohibiting job discrimination by sexual orientation. (Sep 1996)

I hate hypocrites, the GOP has way to many.

Save for the constitutional amendment — which I opposed on federalist grounds — my voting record would match Larry Craig’s were I a member of Congress. But you can’t accuse me of hypocrisy. I’m 43, and have been out since my senior year in high school. I just don’t care for liberal social engineering.

By the way, I’m not defending Larry Craig. I have no doubt he’s a closet case. But he’s not a hypocrite, or at least he’s not for the reasons you cite.

;-)

And heretofore I’d never heard of anything quite like this case in the States. With the obscure foot signals and not a word of actual verbal communication and all.

I agree with you it’s completely insane.

Now back to our regularly scheduled neighborliness. Could you please pass the donuts?

DrSteve on August 29, 2007 at 12:37 PM

I’ve also referred to the relatively recent, numerous, and documented cases where U.S. citizens were cases were arrested and convicted of felonies by their states for engaging in consensual private sexual activity, oral or in some cases anal, in the privacy of their homes.

That would never happen here. Ever.

That’s also what I meant.

And we would laugh, truly we would.

Thanks for reminding me of those days, Cristoph.

Good times.

But my problem is, and I’ve never heard of a case like it in Canada during my lifetime, is arresting someone for touching a police officer’s foot.

And heretofore I’d never heard of anything quite like this case in the States. With the obscure foot signals and not a word of actual verbal communication and all.

I agree with you it’s completely insane.

Now back to our regularly scheduled neighborliness. Could you please pass the donuts?

Certainly, it’s not very good for the kiddies. And it’s probably a tough job to do, getting evidence and all.

But my problem is, and I’ve never heard of a case like it in Canada during my lifetime, is arresting someone for touching a police officer’s foot.

Especially when the officer is clearly playing along.

It’s ridiculous. Never happen hear. Only in America or another religious country.

There are a lot of great things about Americans, but there are a lot of stupid Americans too.

And this law applied this way reflects that stupidity.

I can give you exampled of Canadian stupidity all day long, to wit, the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation.

Yet this bizarre situation and this bust would just not be on in Canada. Local gay activists would be up in arms and the average man or women would be behind them.

If Craig had taken it a step further or not received encouragement from the cop, maybe.

Didn’t the Kids in the Hall have a recurring skit about a couple of seriously latent Toronto cops staking out the park bathrooms? What was that based on? And have a search at this link for “entrapment.” Not in living memory? How old are you, dude?

The Craig bust is all kinds of wrong to me, entrapment etc., but you can dial the O Canada thing back a little.

Who hasn’t felt unjustly treated after having been given a ticket by a police officer?

He pleaded guilty, to a lessor charge to get the more obvious one dropped.
He pleaded guilty. A senator, a law maker, with a lawyer, negotiated a lessor sentence. He is guilty.
You don’t have to be a “Christian” to understand a guilty plea and its implications.

Gee, I said above he committed a crime, a couple times.

I said it’s your laws that are messed up, not that he didn’t break them.

He pled guilty to a crime that amounted to touching another man’s foot specifically after that man had gave him a signal indicating essentially it was okay.

The obscenity is Minnesota law.

Christoph on August 28, 2007 at 2:06 PM

He pleaded guilty, to a lessor charge to get the more obvious one dropped.
He pleaded guilty. A senator, a law maker, with a lawyer, negotiated a lessor sentence. He is guilty.
You don’t have to be a “Christian” to understand a guilty plea and its implications.

To most over used words on HA…Hypocrite, and Christian, often used in the same sentence, used by people who know very little about either.

The jury is still out on this one….

JannyMae on August 28, 2007 at 11:45 PM

No jury needed, he pleaded guilty.

thuja on August 29, 2007 at 12:23 AM

You missed a small part of this. Do you want someone with these kind of thought processes making those bills. Do you want someone so stupid as this to represent you? Do you think he will be honest in his representation, or vote the way to keep himself out of “hot water”? This guy says he didn’t have a lawyer, and yet records show he did. This is whom you want to help decide our future. One of 100 or so people. We can do better, kick him out and others that are weak minded, crooks, racists, with hands in others pockets, then we will get the bills you and I so desperately want. He’s a loser, kick him to the side.

Something just doesn’t smell right about this whole thing.

Yes, IF you believe the cop, Craig acted strangely. I’m not inclined to buy into the notion that he committed a crime, though, even if HE DID exactly what the cop states.

The jury is still out on this one….

JannyMae on August 28, 2007 at 11:45 PM

And that is another very, very good point.

The police report says that the police officer slowly moved his foot up and down, not Craig.

I read that.

Slow movements aren’t part of seduction?

After staring at you off and on for two minutes, some person is tapping his foot up and down in your toilet stall from the stall next to you signaling they want sexuality, you KNOW they want sexually activity, do you:

      a) move your foot away or take stronger action?
      b) slowly tap your foot up and down?

Do they teach you to think in America?

Something just doesn’t smell right about this whole thing.

Yes, IF you believe the cop, Craig acted strangely. I’m not inclined to buy into the notion that he committed a crime, though, even if HE DID exactly what the cop states.

The jury is still out on this one….