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	<title>Comments on: Open thread: Larry Craig presser at 4:30 p.m. ET; Update: GOP Senate leaders call for ethics probe of Craig; Update: &#8220;I am not gay&#8221; video added; Update: Press(?) heckles Craig; Update: Craig&#8217;s a &#8220;sexual deviant,&#8221; says Chris Matthews</title>
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		<title>By: Hot Air &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Craig: This ain&#8217;t over</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/08/28/open-thread-larry-craig-presser-at-430-pm-et/comment-page-2/#comment-674150</link>
		<dc:creator>Hot Air &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Craig: This ain&#8217;t over</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 01:40:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] press conference: a week ago, to announce he&#8217;s not gay, isn&#8217;t resigning, and never would have had that [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Rob Taylor</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/08/28/open-thread-larry-craig-presser-at-430-pm-et/comment-page-2/#comment-668873</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 23:44:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wuzzadem I&#039;m from Jesey but have been living in NYC. Also wento to Wesleyan in CT for a while. All mens rooms around these parts are &quot;gay friendly&quot; if you know what I mean. When I was a kid it really bothered me, but at 36, I&#039;ve seen worse than a couple of dudes loooking into each others urinals and &quot;shaking off&quot;

Most gay bathroom in NY: Wahington Square park

Least Gay: Natural History Museum.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wuzzadem I&#8217;m from Jesey but have been living in NYC. Also wento to Wesleyan in CT for a while. All mens rooms around these parts are &#8220;gay friendly&#8221; if you know what I mean. When I was a kid it really bothered me, but at 36, I&#8217;ve seen worse than a couple of dudes loooking into each others urinals and &#8220;shaking off&#8221;</p>
<p>Most gay bathroom in NY: Wahington Square park</p>
<p>Least Gay: Natural History Museum.</p>
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		<title>By: mojo</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/08/28/open-thread-larry-craig-presser-at-430-pm-et/comment-page-2/#comment-668332</link>
		<dc:creator>mojo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 19:27:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Am not!&quot;
&quot;Are too!&quot;
&quot;Am NOT!&quot;
&quot;Are too!&quot;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Am not!&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Are too!&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Am NOT!&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Are too!&#8221;<br />
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		<title>By: Jaibones</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/08/28/open-thread-larry-craig-presser-at-430-pm-et/comment-page-2/#comment-667510</link>
		<dc:creator>Jaibones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 14:06:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Footnote to the Thread:&lt;/strong&gt;

Chris Matthews&#039;s blog, Hardblogger (heh), has reiterated in print his comment that Larry Craig is a &quot;sexual deviant&quot;.  As others have commented before me, I look forward to the boycotts, threats, parades, and vilification of MSNBC and Matthews from the GLBTA and other radical queer and deviant organizations.

Curiously, there are &quot;zero comments&quot; shown on this post, nor will my own profanity-free and thoughtful comment post.  Cat got our tongue, Chrissy?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Footnote to the Thread:</strong></p>
<p>Chris Matthews&#8217;s blog, Hardblogger (heh), has reiterated in print his comment that Larry Craig is a &#8220;sexual deviant&#8221;.  As others have commented before me, I look forward to the boycotts, threats, parades, and vilification of MSNBC and Matthews from the GLBTA and other radical queer and deviant organizations.</p>
<p>Curiously, there are &#8220;zero comments&#8221; shown on this post, nor will my own profanity-free and thoughtful comment post.  Cat got our tongue, Chrissy?</p>
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		<title>By: Connie</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/08/28/open-thread-larry-craig-presser-at-430-pm-et/comment-page-2/#comment-667335</link>
		<dc:creator>Connie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 07:16:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;John from WuzzaDem on August 29, 2007 at 6:50 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Me too. Considering the fact that I&#039;ve skipped a few ladies lines and run into the guys&#039; room on occasion. (Not recently, but in my partying days).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>John from WuzzaDem on August 29, 2007 at 6:50 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Me too. Considering the fact that I&#8217;ve skipped a few ladies lines and run into the guys&#8217; room on occasion. (Not recently, but in my partying days).</p>
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		<title>By: Stuck On Stupid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stuck On Stupid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 06:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Political Scandals: Democrats vs. Republicans...&lt;/strong&gt;

	Now that the Republicans have another &#8220;scandal&#8221; among the ranks of the Senate with Larry Craig playing  &#8220;footsy&#8221; and displaying &#8221; hand signals&#8221; in an airport men&#8217;s room and his guilty plea to a misdemeanor cha...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Political Scandals: Democrats vs. Republicans&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>	Now that the Republicans have another &#8220;scandal&#8221; among the ranks of the Senate with Larry Craig playing  &#8220;footsy&#8221; and displaying &#8221; hand signals&#8221; in an airport men&#8217;s room and his guilty plea to a misdemeanor cha&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: John from WuzzaDem</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/08/28/open-thread-larry-craig-presser-at-430-pm-et/comment-page-2/#comment-666769</link>
		<dc:creator>John from WuzzaDem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 22:50:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I’ve never been in a bathroom where people weren’t jerking off...

Rob Taylor on August 29, 2007 at 12:40 AM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

And you went in anyway? 

Seriously though - where do you live? I want to stay away from there. Far away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I’ve never been in a bathroom where people weren’t jerking off&#8230;</p>
<p>Rob Taylor on August 29, 2007 at 12:40 AM</p></blockquote>
<p>And you went in anyway? </p>
<p>Seriously though &#8211; where do you live? I want to stay away from there. Far away.</p>
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		<title>By: Barry Kearns</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/08/28/open-thread-larry-craig-presser-at-430-pm-et/comment-page-2/#comment-666478</link>
		<dc:creator>Barry Kearns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 18:37:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;What Craig did wouldn’t be illegal in a bar, why should it be illegal in a restroom? &lt;/em&gt;

Because there is a &lt;strong&gt;strong&lt;/strong&gt; expectation of privacy in restrooms, and since folks are more-or-less required to expose their &quot;intimate parts&quot; (as the statute refers to them) in order to use the facilities, it is a particulary pernicious place to try to push your unwanted flirting attempts onto someone.

You don&#039;t have nearly the same vulnerability nor expectation of privacy in an airport lounge than you do in a restroom... nor should you expect one.  The rules are different for a restroom because &lt;strong&gt;they should be&lt;/strong&gt;.

Read the arrest report.  The guy spent two minutes staring into the crack in the door while the other guy was on the john.  He didn&#039;t just &quot;tap his foot&quot;.  He stood outside the stared inside for a prolonged period (and that alone is enough to violate the statute), he slid his foot entirely into the other guy&#039;s stall, he swiped his hand repeatedly into the other stall, and when the officer signalled multiple times for him to leave, he didn&#039;t and persisted in his efforts.

That&#039;s not a simple misunderstanding on the officer&#039;s part.

Re: his denying being gay and folks stating that perhaps he&#039;s just &quot;bi curious&quot;...  maybe he&#039;s just formed an exploratory committee.  =)

The best line I&#039;ve heard out of Idaho so far after this:

&quot;We don&#039;t care whether he has a &#039;wide stance&#039;, we care about his stance on illegal immigration...&quot;

The dude was a goner after shamnesty, this is just a nail in the coffin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>What Craig did wouldn’t be illegal in a bar, why should it be illegal in a restroom? </em></p>
<p>Because there is a <strong>strong</strong> expectation of privacy in restrooms, and since folks are more-or-less required to expose their &#8220;intimate parts&#8221; (as the statute refers to them) in order to use the facilities, it is a particulary pernicious place to try to push your unwanted flirting attempts onto someone.</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t have nearly the same vulnerability nor expectation of privacy in an airport lounge than you do in a restroom&#8230; nor should you expect one.  The rules are different for a restroom because <strong>they should be</strong>.</p>
<p>Read the arrest report.  The guy spent two minutes staring into the crack in the door while the other guy was on the john.  He didn&#8217;t just &#8220;tap his foot&#8221;.  He stood outside the stared inside for a prolonged period (and that alone is enough to violate the statute), he slid his foot entirely into the other guy&#8217;s stall, he swiped his hand repeatedly into the other stall, and when the officer signalled multiple times for him to leave, he didn&#8217;t and persisted in his efforts.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s not a simple misunderstanding on the officer&#8217;s part.</p>
<p>Re: his denying being gay and folks stating that perhaps he&#8217;s just &#8220;bi curious&#8221;&#8230;  maybe he&#8217;s just formed an exploratory committee.  =)</p>
<p>The best line I&#8217;ve heard out of Idaho so far after this:</p>
<p>&#8220;We don&#8217;t care whether he has a &#8216;wide stance&#8217;, we care about his stance on illegal immigration&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>The dude was a goner after shamnesty, this is just a nail in the coffin.</p>
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		<title>By: entagor</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/08/28/open-thread-larry-craig-presser-at-430-pm-et/comment-page-2/#comment-666418</link>
		<dc:creator>entagor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 18:07:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Forgive my blog hogging but I promise this is the last:

&lt;em&gt;A Senator who likes to toy with the devil is a very useful Senator indeed&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forgive my blog hogging but I promise this is the last:</p>
<p><em>A Senator who likes to toy with the devil is a very useful Senator indeed</em></p>
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		<title>By: entagor</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/08/28/open-thread-larry-craig-presser-at-430-pm-et/comment-page-2/#comment-666405</link>
		<dc:creator>entagor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 18:01:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess I should add: why would the DEMs sit on this very public record? Perhaps they wanted his amnesty vote too!

They could save this very choice morsel to feast upon in a more useful news cycle

Guess the Senator had served his purpose</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess I should add: why would the DEMs sit on this very public record? Perhaps they wanted his amnesty vote too!</p>
<p>They could save this very choice morsel to feast upon in a more useful news cycle</p>
<p>Guess the Senator had served his purpose</p>
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		<title>By: entagor</title>
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		<dc:creator>entagor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 17:52:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I have no idea if Craig was guilty as charged, and I am BUT I believe it is up to the individual to decide if they want to come out of the closet. I’m sure whoever leaked the Craig story is the same individual (s) who leaked the Foley story. It was political revenge for votes not going the way they wanted them to go. And that is just wrong.

Connie on August 29, 2007 at 1:20 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

He pled guilty. He is a U.S Senator. How do you maliciously leak a public record?

It just hit me. The GOP biggies are tippie toe about this. He was arrested in June 11. Were there any important votes requiring him back then? When was the Immigration Bill? The first vote was Memorial Day weekend. 

Craig voted to kill the border fence in 2006 by supporting an amendment requiring the OK of the Mexican government. He voted in favor of final passage of S. 2611, the Comprehensive Immigration Reform Axt of 2006.  

Wallah! (Voila to Frenchies) The Amenesty Cloture vote was &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=110&amp;session=1&amp;vote=00235&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;June 28, 2007&lt;/a&gt;

Senator Toe Tapper: Craig (R-ID), Yea 

The Mystery is Resolved. Shame Shame Shame</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I have no idea if Craig was guilty as charged, and I am BUT I believe it is up to the individual to decide if they want to come out of the closet. I’m sure whoever leaked the Craig story is the same individual (s) who leaked the Foley story. It was political revenge for votes not going the way they wanted them to go. And that is just wrong.</p>
<p>Connie on August 29, 2007 at 1:20 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>He pled guilty. He is a U.S Senator. How do you maliciously leak a public record?</p>
<p>It just hit me. The GOP biggies are tippie toe about this. He was arrested in June 11. Were there any important votes requiring him back then? When was the Immigration Bill? The first vote was Memorial Day weekend. </p>
<p>Craig voted to kill the border fence in 2006 by supporting an amendment requiring the OK of the Mexican government. He voted in favor of final passage of S. 2611, the Comprehensive Immigration Reform Axt of 2006.  </p>
<p>Wallah! (Voila to Frenchies) The Amenesty Cloture vote was <a href="http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=110&amp;session=1&amp;vote=00235" rel="nofollow">June 28, 2007</a></p>
<p>Senator Toe Tapper: Craig (R-ID), Yea </p>
<p>The Mystery is Resolved. Shame Shame Shame</p>
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		<title>By: jeanie</title>
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		<dc:creator>jeanie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 17:38:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Craig were a Democrat they would now be saying that this man was a victim of repressive, conservative bias against homosexuality and so had to resort to this kind of thing.  The Dems tend to rationalize even the worst behavior and place the blame on society, conservatives, the Christian right or anyone handy at the time rather than the person him/herself. &quot;Flexible&quot; ethics seem to be their hallmark.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Craig were a Democrat they would now be saying that this man was a victim of repressive, conservative bias against homosexuality and so had to resort to this kind of thing.  The Dems tend to rationalize even the worst behavior and place the blame on society, conservatives, the Christian right or anyone handy at the time rather than the person him/herself. &#8220;Flexible&#8221; ethics seem to be their hallmark.</p>
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		<title>By: Connie</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/08/28/open-thread-larry-craig-presser-at-430-pm-et/comment-page-2/#comment-666358</link>
		<dc:creator>Connie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 17:26:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or maybe neuter. Maybe the asexuals have the right idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or maybe neuter. Maybe the asexuals have the right idea.</p>
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		<title>By: Connie</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/08/28/open-thread-larry-craig-presser-at-430-pm-et/comment-page-2/#comment-666346</link>
		<dc:creator>Connie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 17:22:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nuture=nurture</description>
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		<title>By: Connie</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/08/28/open-thread-larry-craig-presser-at-430-pm-et/comment-page-2/#comment-666341</link>
		<dc:creator>Connie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 17:20:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Rob Taylor on August 29, 2007 at 12:40 AM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That&#039;s a pretty sick post.

I have no idea if Craig was guilty as charged, and I am a &quot;nuture, not nature&quot; believer, BUT I believe it is up to the individual to decide if they want to come out of the closet. I&#039;m sure whoever leaked the Craig story is the same individual (s) who leaked the Foley story. It was political revenge for votes not going the way they wanted them to go. And that is just wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Rob Taylor on August 29, 2007 at 12:40 AM</p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s a pretty sick post.</p>
<p>I have no idea if Craig was guilty as charged, and I am a &#8220;nuture, not nature&#8221; believer, BUT I believe it is up to the individual to decide if they want to come out of the closet. I&#8217;m sure whoever leaked the Craig story is the same individual (s) who leaked the Foley story. It was political revenge for votes not going the way they wanted them to go. And that is just wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: saved</title>
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		<dc:creator>saved</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 17:11:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Attention BIG TENT democrats!

The Republican party is having a fire sale on homos and cross-dressers.  You cannot afford to miss this opportunity to stock up while prices are this low.  &quot;Two fers&quot; deals won&#039;t last long, so contact Mr. Martinez care of the RNC in Florida to pick up a sexual deviant or two before the next election.

Hurry while supplies last...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Attention BIG TENT democrats!</p>
<p>The Republican party is having a fire sale on homos and cross-dressers.  You cannot afford to miss this opportunity to stock up while prices are this low.  &#8220;Two fers&#8221; deals won&#8217;t last long, so contact Mr. Martinez care of the RNC in Florida to pick up a sexual deviant or two before the next election.</p>
<p>Hurry while supplies last&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: It would be hypocritical for Larry Craig not to resign. Goodbye! &#171; Volunteer Opinion Journal</title>
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		<dc:creator>It would be hypocritical for Larry Craig not to resign. Goodbye! &#171; Volunteer Opinion Journal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 17:05:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is Craig&#8217;s full statement on the incident at his site.  Video of his press conference is over at [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jonas Parker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonas Parker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 17:02:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think his speech writer could have found better opening words for Sen. Craig than &quot;Thank you all very much for&lt;strong&gt; coming out&lt;/strong&gt; today...&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think his speech writer could have found better opening words for Sen. Craig than &#8220;Thank you all very much for<strong> coming out</strong> today&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: entagor</title>
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		<dc:creator>entagor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 16:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Looking for sex in an airport cammode stall must indicate some variety of sickness. Think of the disgusting germs.

saiga on August 28, 2007 at 4:22 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;What Craig did wouldn’t be illegal in a bar, why should it be illegal in a restroom? Now, I don’t want someone rubbing his foot on my son’s foot when he goes to an airport restroom, but I’ve had men give me their phone numbers while waiting in an airport lounge. Both are solicitations to sex and neither should be illegal although both are uncomfortable and unwanted (by me! by my son, but not by everyone).

If the MN airport has a problem with sex it its bathrooms, they should post a security officer in them at all times. Perhaps that would discourage such behavior.

MayBee on August 28, 2007 at 4:37 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It didn&#039;t discourage Craig!

We supply public restrooms at great expense and liability  to allow privacy and dignity and to isolate the germs and hazards. We need public trust because people have to let their guard down to use a bathroom. Not everyone is America is so &#039;hip&#039; they know the current sex hand signals nor so blase they think it is a privacy issue to the perp, not the victim

We need better for the Senate. Obviously the DEMs don&#039;t care but someone, somewhere has to stand for public decency.

Last days, last days, get your Last Days of the &lt;strike&gt;Roman&lt;/strike&gt; USA Empire here</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Looking for sex in an airport cammode stall must indicate some variety of sickness. Think of the disgusting germs.</p>
<p>saiga on August 28, 2007 at 4:22 PM</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>What Craig did wouldn’t be illegal in a bar, why should it be illegal in a restroom? Now, I don’t want someone rubbing his foot on my son’s foot when he goes to an airport restroom, but I’ve had men give me their phone numbers while waiting in an airport lounge. Both are solicitations to sex and neither should be illegal although both are uncomfortable and unwanted (by me! by my son, but not by everyone).</p>
<p>If the MN airport has a problem with sex it its bathrooms, they should post a security officer in them at all times. Perhaps that would discourage such behavior.</p>
<p>MayBee on August 28, 2007 at 4:37 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>It didn&#8217;t discourage Craig!</p>
<p>We supply public restrooms at great expense and liability  to allow privacy and dignity and to isolate the germs and hazards. We need public trust because people have to let their guard down to use a bathroom. Not everyone is America is so &#8216;hip&#8217; they know the current sex hand signals nor so blase they think it is a privacy issue to the perp, not the victim</p>
<p>We need better for the Senate. Obviously the DEMs don&#8217;t care but someone, somewhere has to stand for public decency.</p>
<p>Last days, last days, get your Last Days of the <strike>Roman</strike> USA Empire here</p>
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		<title>By: rplat</title>
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		<dc:creator>rplat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 14:04:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good lord!  If these brain dead Republicans don&#039;t get their acts together soon, the senate will soon be 100% Democrats.  What a disgusting mess they&#039;re creating.  As for Craig . . . get him out of there today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good lord!  If these brain dead Republicans don&#8217;t get their acts together soon, the senate will soon be 100% Democrats.  What a disgusting mess they&#8217;re creating.  As for Craig . . . get him out of there today.</p>
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		<title>By: right2bright</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/08/28/open-thread-larry-craig-presser-at-430-pm-et/comment-page-2/#comment-665999</link>
		<dc:creator>right2bright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 13:17:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;EricPWJohnson on August 29, 2007 at 7:04 AM&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Term limits I don&#039;t like (we get who we vote for), but their retirement or &quot;double dipping&quot; from the government.  Be in the house, get a pension, be in the senate, get another pension, be appointed to a government postition, get another pension.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>EricPWJohnson on August 29, 2007 at 7:04 AM</p></blockquote>
<p>Term limits I don&#8217;t like (we get who we vote for), but their retirement or &#8220;double dipping&#8221; from the government.  Be in the house, get a pension, be in the senate, get another pension, be appointed to a government postition, get another pension.</p>
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		<title>By: sublime</title>
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		<dc:creator>sublime</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 13:17:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Watching Craig&#039;s statement immediately reminded me of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cQ3Y4OIhgU&amp;mode=related&amp;search=&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; sketch from &quot;Little Britain&quot;...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Watching Craig&#8217;s statement immediately reminded me of <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cQ3Y4OIhgU&amp;mode=related&amp;search=" rel="nofollow">this</a> sketch from &#8220;Little Britain&#8221;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: EricPWJohnson</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/08/28/open-thread-larry-craig-presser-at-430-pm-et/comment-page-2/#comment-665904</link>
		<dc:creator>EricPWJohnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 11:04:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lets get those ethics investigations going on

Sen Robert Byrd - murder, extortion, hate crimes, bribery, misuse of Federal funds (Monohan Charity Scandal) 

Sen Ted Kennedy - murder, obstruction of Justice, accessory to rape, lying to law enforcement officials

Sen Daniel Inouye - sexual assault 4 counts, rape, obstruction of Justice

Sen Ted Stevens - bribery, obstruction of justice,

Sen David Vitter - prostitution

Sen Hillary Clinton - fraud, campaign finance violations

Sen Craig - hand waving, foot tapping, stupidity in the first degree

Sen Barney Frank - lying to Ethics Panel, Lying to federal officials, underage teenage prostitution, RICO

And don&#039;t get me started on the house of Representatives

Lets all realize that A: Craig plead guilty and will be asked to resign

Seems we have a selective waters edge

TERM LIMITS is also a way to handle these people</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lets get those ethics investigations going on</p>
<p>Sen Robert Byrd &#8211; murder, extortion, hate crimes, bribery, misuse of Federal funds (Monohan Charity Scandal) </p>
<p>Sen Ted Kennedy &#8211; murder, obstruction of Justice, accessory to rape, lying to law enforcement officials</p>
<p>Sen Daniel Inouye &#8211; sexual assault 4 counts, rape, obstruction of Justice</p>
<p>Sen Ted Stevens &#8211; bribery, obstruction of justice,</p>
<p>Sen David Vitter &#8211; prostitution</p>
<p>Sen Hillary Clinton &#8211; fraud, campaign finance violations</p>
<p>Sen Craig &#8211; hand waving, foot tapping, stupidity in the first degree</p>
<p>Sen Barney Frank &#8211; lying to Ethics Panel, Lying to federal officials, underage teenage prostitution, RICO</p>
<p>And don&#8217;t get me started on the house of Representatives</p>
<p>Lets all realize that A: Craig plead guilty and will be asked to resign</p>
<p>Seems we have a selective waters edge</p>
<p>TERM LIMITS is also a way to handle these people</p>
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		<title>By: RightWinged</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/08/28/open-thread-larry-craig-presser-at-430-pm-et/comment-page-2/#comment-665887</link>
		<dc:creator>RightWinged</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 09:06:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;BOISE, Idaho (CNN) -- &quot;First, please let me &lt;strong&gt;apologize to my&lt;/strong&gt; family, friends, &lt;strong&gt;staff&lt;/strong&gt;...&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I think your concern with pleasing your &lt;em&gt;staff&lt;/em&gt; is what got you in to this whole mess Senator, isn&#039;t it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>BOISE, Idaho (CNN) &#8212; &#8220;First, please let me <strong>apologize to my</strong> family, friends, <strong>staff</strong>&#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p>I think your concern with pleasing your <em>staff</em> is what got you in to this whole mess Senator, isn&#8217;t it?</p>
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		<title>By: Topsecretk9</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/08/28/open-thread-larry-craig-presser-at-430-pm-et/comment-page-2/#comment-665851</link>
		<dc:creator>Topsecretk9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 07:03:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OH CRAP - I just hope &lt;strong&gt;ALLAH SEES THIS PAINFUL CREW CLIP&lt;/strong&gt;

Melanie Sloane of CREW ruins HERSELF on Tucker Carlson- she is no better than Miss Teen South Carolina....SERIOUSLY.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://msunderestimated.com/2007/08/28/tucker-smacks-crews-sloan-around-video/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;WARNING BRUTAL&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;Tucker also brings up the fact that the Idaho Statesman newspaper engaging in lengthy investigations, interviewing at least 300 people, into Craig’s alleged gay sexual orientation. Sloan stutters and stammers like a diesel engine on a December morning when Tucker starts asking about why this is appearing to apply only to Conservative Republicans. He also reminds her that many liberals are against gay marriage, but she appears to not hear him at all. All in all, Sloan sounds as dumb as South Carolina’s Miss Teen contestant when answering the question about the map. Uh..uh..uh..like “such as.” Is Obama a hypocrite for being against smoking, yet he is having a hard time quitting himself? Puhleeze. The hypocrisy here is not on the right; it’s on the leftards who can’t miss an opportunity to bash Conservative Republicans.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

no joke - watch it - it&#039;s that bad</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OH CRAP &#8211; I just hope <strong>ALLAH SEES THIS PAINFUL CREW CLIP</strong></p>
<p>Melanie Sloane of CREW ruins HERSELF on Tucker Carlson- she is no better than Miss Teen South Carolina&#8230;.SERIOUSLY.</p>
<p><a href="http://msunderestimated.com/2007/08/28/tucker-smacks-crews-sloan-around-video/" rel="nofollow"><strong>WARNING BRUTAL</strong></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Tucker also brings up the fact that the Idaho Statesman newspaper engaging in lengthy investigations, interviewing at least 300 people, into Craig’s alleged gay sexual orientation. Sloan stutters and stammers like a diesel engine on a December morning when Tucker starts asking about why this is appearing to apply only to Conservative Republicans. He also reminds her that many liberals are against gay marriage, but she appears to not hear him at all. All in all, Sloan sounds as dumb as South Carolina’s Miss Teen contestant when answering the question about the map. Uh..uh..uh..like “such as.” Is Obama a hypocrite for being against smoking, yet he is having a hard time quitting himself? Puhleeze. The hypocrisy here is not on the right; it’s on the leftards who can’t miss an opportunity to bash Conservative Republicans.</p></blockquote>
<p>no joke &#8211; watch it &#8211; it&#8217;s that bad</p>
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