Comments on: Florida Dems’ response to DNC’s primary threat: Get bent http://hotair.com/archives/2007/08/28/florida-dems-response-to-dncs-primary-threat-get-bent/ The world’s first, full-service conservative Internet broadcast network Mon, 28 May 2012 11:14:21 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Dr. Charles G. Waugh http://hotair.com/archives/2007/08/28/florida-dems-response-to-dncs-primary-threat-get-bent/comment-page-1/#comment-665769 Dr. Charles G. Waugh Wed, 29 Aug 2007 04:43:09 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/08/28/florida-dems-response-to-dncs-primary-threat-get-bent/#comment-665769 What does it matter when they vote? It will take them two months to count the ballots. What does it matter when they vote? It will take them two months to count the ballots.

]]> By: aunursa http://hotair.com/archives/2007/08/28/florida-dems-response-to-dncs-primary-threat-get-bent/comment-page-1/#comment-665462 aunursa Tue, 28 Aug 2007 23:34:33 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/08/28/florida-dems-response-to-dncs-primary-threat-get-bent/#comment-665462 I would like to see (1) One or more states set their primaries to "the same day as the first state primary scheduled", in other words, whichever day New Hampshire sets as its primary. That would throw the entire primary schedule into chaos, (2) A system that rotates each state's primary date, so that every state has a chance to be at the beginning, middle, and end of the primary season, for subsequent presidential elections. I would like to see

(1) One or more states set their primaries to “the same day as the first state primary scheduled”, in other words, whichever day New Hampshire sets as its primary. That would throw the entire primary schedule into chaos,

(2) A system that rotates each state’s primary date, so that every state has a chance to be at the beginning, middle, and end of the primary season, for subsequent presidential elections.

]]> By: oldleprechaun http://hotair.com/archives/2007/08/28/florida-dems-response-to-dncs-primary-threat-get-bent/comment-page-1/#comment-665431 oldleprechaun Tue, 28 Aug 2007 23:07:25 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/08/28/florida-dems-response-to-dncs-primary-threat-get-bent/#comment-665431 When I was a boy, political parties had their conventions in August and campaigned until November. Three months was plenty! When I was a boy, political parties had their conventions in August and campaigned until November. Three months was plenty!

]]> By: JiangxiDad http://hotair.com/archives/2007/08/28/florida-dems-response-to-dncs-primary-threat-get-bent/comment-page-1/#comment-665204 JiangxiDad Tue, 28 Aug 2007 20:53:47 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/08/28/florida-dems-response-to-dncs-primary-threat-get-bent/#comment-665204 <blockquote>You don’t have to nuke New Hampshire. They want to be “free,” so fine, kick them out of the Union. See how long they last with their welfare checks and social security. Wuptdo on August 28, 2007 at 2:32 PM Er, that was Vermont. baldilocks on August 28, 2007 at 2:38 PM</blockquote><blockquote> NH is halfway to becoming a nutdom like its neighbor, VT. It's only a matter of time. Their voting patterns have already changed. Kinda think they're opting for the "die" solution. Reds in blue states are emptying out as fast as they can. That usually translates as natives. Hopefully all boomers will die before it gets any worse.</blockquote>

You don’t have to nuke New Hampshire. They want to be “free,” so fine, kick them out of the Union. See how long they last with their welfare checks and social security.

Wuptdo on August 28, 2007 at 2:32 PM

Er, that was Vermont.

baldilocks on August 28, 2007 at 2:38 PM

NH is halfway to becoming a nutdom like its neighbor, VT. It’s only a matter of time. Their voting patterns have already changed. Kinda think they’re opting for the “die” solution.

Reds in blue states are emptying out as fast as they can. That usually translates as natives. Hopefully all boomers will die before it gets any worse.

]]> By: saiga http://hotair.com/archives/2007/08/28/florida-dems-response-to-dncs-primary-threat-get-bent/comment-page-1/#comment-665075 saiga Tue, 28 Aug 2007 20:01:05 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/08/28/florida-dems-response-to-dncs-primary-threat-get-bent/#comment-665075 <blockquote>This does not sound like a good idea. The general election is on one day, so too should the primaries- otherwise we’re going to continue playing this “I wanna be first” nonsense. Hollowpoint on August 28, 2007 at 3:25 PM </blockquote> A national primary with all States on the same day sounds like a bad idea to me. It would allow the candidates to run a national campaign. I like to see them fight it out a little at a time to smoke out their real personality and character. Some candidates just can't hang in a "slow and steady wins the race" format. Howard Dean is a good example of that.

This does not sound like a good idea. The general election is on one day, so too should the primaries- otherwise we’re going to continue playing this “I wanna be first” nonsense.

Hollowpoint on August 28, 2007 at 3:25 PM

A national primary with all States on the same day sounds like a bad idea to me. It would allow the candidates to run a national campaign. I like to see them fight it out a little at a time to smoke out their real personality and character. Some candidates just can’t hang in a “slow and steady wins the race” format. Howard Dean is a good example of that.

]]> By: saiga http://hotair.com/archives/2007/08/28/florida-dems-response-to-dncs-primary-threat-get-bent/comment-page-1/#comment-665063 saiga Tue, 28 Aug 2007 19:56:26 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/08/28/florida-dems-response-to-dncs-primary-threat-get-bent/#comment-665063 Isn't it time for Howard Dean to just fade away or something? Isn’t it time for Howard Dean to just fade away or something?

]]> By: Will The DNC Cave to Florida Democrats? at Conservative Times--Republican GOP news source. http://hotair.com/archives/2007/08/28/florida-dems-response-to-dncs-primary-threat-get-bent/comment-page-1/#comment-665016 Will The DNC Cave to Florida Democrats? at Conservative Times--Republican GOP news source. Tue, 28 Aug 2007 19:36:39 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/08/28/florida-dems-response-to-dncs-primary-threat-get-bent/#comment-665016 [...] like Hot Air’s exit question to this issue: Exit question: What if Florida tries to move up [...] [...] like Hot Air’s exit question to this issue: Exit question: What if Florida tries to move up [...]

]]> By: Clark1 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/08/28/florida-dems-response-to-dncs-primary-threat-get-bent/comment-page-1/#comment-664999 Clark1 Tue, 28 Aug 2007 19:29:42 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/08/28/florida-dems-response-to-dncs-primary-threat-get-bent/#comment-664999 I don't see anywhere in the Constitution where it's written that Iowa and NH get to decide the primary winners. Many, many states are tired of being a complete afterthought in the nomination process. Watchout, BTW, Michigan is trying to move it's primary in front of Florida. I don’t see anywhere in the Constitution where it’s written that Iowa and NH get to decide the primary winners. Many, many states are tired of being a complete afterthought in the nomination process. Watchout, BTW, Michigan is trying to move it’s primary in front of Florida.

]]> By: Hollowpoint http://hotair.com/archives/2007/08/28/florida-dems-response-to-dncs-primary-threat-get-bent/comment-page-1/#comment-664985 Hollowpoint Tue, 28 Aug 2007 19:25:15 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/08/28/florida-dems-response-to-dncs-primary-threat-get-bent/#comment-664985 <blockquote>I’d like to see a smallest to largest primary system - the states with the least amount of delegates go first, then each week, the next largest states go, etc until Florida, New York, Texas and California at the end. Alia on August 28, 2007 at 3:05 PM</blockquote> So you'd have the states least important in terms of electoral votes in the general election have the most influence by voting first in the primaries? This does not sound like a good idea. The general election is on one day, so too should the primaries- otherwise we're going to continue playing this "I wanna be first" nonsense.

I’d like to see a smallest to largest primary system – the states with the least amount of delegates go first, then each week, the next largest states go, etc until Florida, New York, Texas and California at the end.

Alia on August 28, 2007 at 3:05 PM

So you’d have the states least important in terms of electoral votes in the general election have the most influence by voting first in the primaries?

This does not sound like a good idea. The general election is on one day, so too should the primaries- otherwise we’re going to continue playing this “I wanna be first” nonsense.

]]> By: Master Shake http://hotair.com/archives/2007/08/28/florida-dems-response-to-dncs-primary-threat-get-bent/comment-page-1/#comment-664958 Master Shake Tue, 28 Aug 2007 19:08:12 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/08/28/florida-dems-response-to-dncs-primary-threat-get-bent/#comment-664958 I don't get why the Florida Dems are in such a rush. The illegals and Alzheimer's patients aren't going anywhere, and if any of them die before the election, they'll still vote Dem. I don’t get why the Florida Dems are in such a rush. The illegals and Alzheimer’s patients aren’t going anywhere, and if any of them die before the election, they’ll still vote Dem.

]]> By: Alia http://hotair.com/archives/2007/08/28/florida-dems-response-to-dncs-primary-threat-get-bent/comment-page-1/#comment-664952 Alia Tue, 28 Aug 2007 19:05:36 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/08/28/florida-dems-response-to-dncs-primary-threat-get-bent/#comment-664952 I'd like to see a smallest to largest primary system - the states with the least amount of delegates go first, then each week, the next largest states go, etc until Florida, New York, Texas and California at the end. The smallest states need to have their say as well and they get that by making the candidates focus on them first, then the big states last. Really, how many times have Iowa and or New Hampshire changed the caculus of who the front-runner is. Remember Dean in 2004? Do we necessarily want the larger states to anoint the "front runner" as king (or, uhem, queen) on 5 February? I’d like to see a smallest to largest primary system – the states with the least amount of delegates go first, then each week, the next largest states go, etc until Florida, New York, Texas and California at the end. The smallest states need to have their say as well and they get that by making the candidates focus on them first, then the big states last.

Really, how many times have Iowa and or New Hampshire changed the caculus of who the front-runner is. Remember Dean in 2004? Do we necessarily want the larger states to anoint the “front runner” as king (or, uhem, queen) on 5 February?

]]> By: Limerick http://hotair.com/archives/2007/08/28/florida-dems-response-to-dncs-primary-threat-get-bent/comment-page-1/#comment-664937 Limerick Tue, 28 Aug 2007 18:53:13 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/08/28/florida-dems-response-to-dncs-primary-threat-get-bent/#comment-664937 The carpetbagger in NY is the cause, not Iowa and NH. This whole things boils down to a fight over the electoral college and shifting power in elections from Mayberry to Main Street. Rollerball here we come. The carpetbagger in NY is the cause, not Iowa and NH. This whole things boils down to a fight over the electoral college and shifting power in elections from Mayberry to Main Street. Rollerball here we come.

]]> By: pedestrian http://hotair.com/archives/2007/08/28/florida-dems-response-to-dncs-primary-threat-get-bent/comment-page-1/#comment-664913 pedestrian Tue, 28 Aug 2007 18:41:53 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/08/28/florida-dems-response-to-dncs-primary-threat-get-bent/#comment-664913 It used to be that starting primaries in a small state made sense because it made it easier for lesser known candidates to get a splash from an early win. Now that campaigns start as soon as the previous election ends (or sooner in the case of the ThighMaster), and campaigning is done by debates anyway, it really could be some other system. So why not start the primary with the most closely contested state from the previous election? It used to be that starting primaries in a small state made sense because it made it easier for lesser known candidates to get a splash from an early win. Now that campaigns start as soon as the previous election ends (or sooner in the case of the ThighMaster), and campaigning is done by debates anyway, it really could be some other system.

So why not start the primary with the most closely contested state from the previous election?

]]> By: baldilocks http://hotair.com/archives/2007/08/28/florida-dems-response-to-dncs-primary-threat-get-bent/comment-page-1/#comment-664905 baldilocks Tue, 28 Aug 2007 18:38:54 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/08/28/florida-dems-response-to-dncs-primary-threat-get-bent/#comment-664905 <blockquote>You don’t have to nuke New Hampshire. They want to be “free,” so fine, kick them out of the Union. See how long they last with their welfare checks and social security. Wuptdo on August 28, 2007 at 2:32 PM</blockquote>Er, that was <a href="http://www.boston.com/news/local/vermont/articles/2007/06/03/in_vermont_nascent_secession_movement_gains_traction/" rel="nofollow">Vermont</a>.

You don’t have to nuke New Hampshire. They want to be “free,” so fine, kick them out of the Union. See how long they last with their welfare checks and social security.

Wuptdo on August 28, 2007 at 2:32 PM

Er, that was Vermont.

]]> By: sabbott http://hotair.com/archives/2007/08/28/florida-dems-response-to-dncs-primary-threat-get-bent/comment-page-1/#comment-664904 sabbott Tue, 28 Aug 2007 18:38:06 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/08/28/florida-dems-response-to-dncs-primary-threat-get-bent/#comment-664904 I don't think it matters much anyway. These people won't be able to figure out how to vote once they settle on a date anyway... I don’t think it matters much anyway. These people won’t be able to figure out how to vote once they settle on a date anyway…

]]> By: duff65 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/08/28/florida-dems-response-to-dncs-primary-threat-get-bent/comment-page-1/#comment-664901 duff65 Tue, 28 Aug 2007 18:36:34 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/08/28/florida-dems-response-to-dncs-primary-threat-get-bent/#comment-664901 This whole thing is insane. Please, lets go back to nominating conventions (with all their faults). We are well over a year away from the next election and the presidential campaign has been going for a year. Next we will probably have the first 2012 primary in 2009. This whole thing is insane. Please, lets go back to nominating conventions (with all their faults). We are well over a year away from the next election and the presidential campaign has been going for a year. Next we will probably have the first 2012 primary in 2009.

]]> By: Wuptdo http://hotair.com/archives/2007/08/28/florida-dems-response-to-dncs-primary-threat-get-bent/comment-page-1/#comment-664894 Wuptdo Tue, 28 Aug 2007 18:32:53 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/08/28/florida-dems-response-to-dncs-primary-threat-get-bent/#comment-664894 You don't have to nuke New Hampshire. They want to be "free," so fine, kick them out of the Union. See how long they last with their welfare checks and social security. You don’t have to nuke New Hampshire. They want to be “free,” so fine, kick them out of the Union. See how long they last with their welfare checks and social security.

]]> By: Hollowpoint http://hotair.com/archives/2007/08/28/florida-dems-response-to-dncs-primary-threat-get-bent/comment-page-1/#comment-664893 Hollowpoint Tue, 28 Aug 2007 18:32:39 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/08/28/florida-dems-response-to-dncs-primary-threat-get-bent/#comment-664893 <blockquote>Why do ‘they’ have to vote sooner? rockhauler on August 28, 2007 at 2:27 PM</blockquote> It's almost entirely ego driven. It's like the people who stood in line overnight to be the first on their block to be among the first to buy a new iPod or Playstation so they can brag about having one before their friends do.

Why do ‘they’ have to vote sooner?

rockhauler on August 28, 2007 at 2:27 PM

It’s almost entirely ego driven. It’s like the people who stood in line overnight to be the first on their block to be among the first to buy a new iPod or Playstation so they can brag about having one before their friends do.

]]> By: MB4 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/08/28/florida-dems-response-to-dncs-primary-threat-get-bent/comment-page-1/#comment-664889 MB4 Tue, 28 Aug 2007 18:31:10 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/08/28/florida-dems-response-to-dncs-primary-threat-get-bent/#comment-664889 The whole problem is caused by those in New Hampshire and Iowa feeling that they somehow have the God given right to ALWAYS be first. The whole problem is caused by those in New Hampshire and Iowa feeling that they somehow have the God given right to ALWAYS be first.

]]> By: MB4 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/08/28/florida-dems-response-to-dncs-primary-threat-get-bent/comment-page-1/#comment-664885 MB4 Tue, 28 Aug 2007 18:28:56 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/08/28/florida-dems-response-to-dncs-primary-threat-get-bent/#comment-664885 <i>“They said if Bush was elected Florida Democrats would be disenfranchised — and they were right!” frankj on August 28, 2007 at 2:18 PM</i> That reminds me: "They said that if I voted for Goldwater we would get into a big war in Vietnam. They were right, I voted for Goldwater and we got into a big war in Vietnam!" - someone or other “They said if Bush was elected Florida Democrats would be disenfranchised — and they were right!”

frankj on August 28, 2007 at 2:18 PM

That reminds me:

“They said that if I voted for Goldwater we would get into a big war in Vietnam. They were right, I voted for Goldwater and we got into a big war in Vietnam!”
- someone or other

]]> By: Nosferightu http://hotair.com/archives/2007/08/28/florida-dems-response-to-dncs-primary-threat-get-bent/comment-page-1/#comment-664883 Nosferightu Tue, 28 Aug 2007 18:28:16 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/08/28/florida-dems-response-to-dncs-primary-threat-get-bent/#comment-664883 I'm all for state autonomy, but why isn't the Federal government regulating a federal election. Put them all on one day. IA and NH will have to find a new claim-to-fame. Sorry. I’m all for state autonomy, but why isn’t the Federal government regulating a federal election. Put them all on one day. IA and NH will have to find a new claim-to-fame. Sorry.

]]> By: Theworldisnotenough http://hotair.com/archives/2007/08/28/florida-dems-response-to-dncs-primary-threat-get-bent/comment-page-1/#comment-664880 Theworldisnotenough Tue, 28 Aug 2007 18:27:30 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/08/28/florida-dems-response-to-dncs-primary-threat-get-bent/#comment-664880 <blockquote>Exit question: What if Florida tries to move up again?</blockquote> Anarchy. Heh. I think the whole process will make voters much more cynical about thier leadership. Does the vast middle really care whether or not thier state is first? Probably not. What they will get tired of is their elected reporesentatives acting like children and turning the electoral process into a farce. We are starting to culturally reject the infantile and stupid. Anchorwoman lasted 59 minutes and 59 seconds. We most certainly do not want our politicians turning governemtn into that shows real world equivalent.

Exit question: What if Florida tries to move up again?

Anarchy. Heh.

I think the whole process will make voters much more cynical about thier leadership. Does the vast middle really care whether or not thier state is first? Probably not. What they will get tired of is their elected reporesentatives acting like children and turning the electoral process into a farce.

We are starting to culturally reject the infantile and stupid. Anchorwoman lasted 59 minutes and 59 seconds. We most certainly do not want our politicians turning governemtn into that shows real world equivalent.

]]> By: rockhauler http://hotair.com/archives/2007/08/28/florida-dems-response-to-dncs-primary-threat-get-bent/comment-page-1/#comment-664879 rockhauler Tue, 28 Aug 2007 18:27:26 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/08/28/florida-dems-response-to-dncs-primary-threat-get-bent/#comment-664879 Someone <strong>please</strong> explain this to me. Why does it matter? Why do 'they' have to vote sooner? Why does the campaign have to start so early? Why vote so early, when events can, and will, change, which might affect voter preference? Why do voters have to choose now? There isn't any reason why the democrat candidate has to be decided now, is there? I really don't get this. Someone please explain this to me.

Why does it matter?

Why do ‘they’ have to vote sooner? Why does the campaign have to start so early?

Why vote so early, when events can, and will, change, which might affect voter preference?

Why do voters have to choose now? There isn’t any reason why the democrat candidate has to be decided now, is there?

I really don’t get this.

]]> By: Slublog http://hotair.com/archives/2007/08/28/florida-dems-response-to-dncs-primary-threat-get-bent/comment-page-1/#comment-664872 Slublog Tue, 28 Aug 2007 18:22:00 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/08/28/florida-dems-response-to-dncs-primary-threat-get-bent/#comment-664872 Nuke New Hampshire. It's the only way to solve this. Nuke New Hampshire.

It’s the only way to solve this.

]]> By: Hollowpoint http://hotair.com/archives/2007/08/28/florida-dems-response-to-dncs-primary-threat-get-bent/comment-page-1/#comment-664870 Hollowpoint Tue, 28 Aug 2007 18:21:00 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/08/28/florida-dems-response-to-dncs-primary-threat-get-bent/#comment-664870 I hope the Dems stick to their guns and sanction Florida, and the Republicans do the same. This is getting ridiculous- just have every state go on Feb 5th and be done with it- the general election doesn't have different states voting at different times, neither should they in the primaries. I hope the Dems stick to their guns and sanction Florida, and the Republicans do the same. This is getting ridiculous- just have every state go on Feb 5th and be done with it- the general election doesn’t have different states voting at different times, neither should they in the primaries.

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