RightWinged,

Durbin?

I don’t know what that means with any certainty, but I do know that you haven’t explained how your purge plan works exactly.

Buy Danish on August 28, 2007 at 4:52 PM

I call you Durbin because you’re calling me a Nazi, which is as stupid as when Durbin called the Gitmo guards Nazis.

As for your demand for my “purge plan”, if you weren’t so lazy, you’d realize I’m simply talking about putting a stop to electing gay people to office, because (as I said you don’t have to agree) I believe “homosexuality” is a perversion, and you’re simply asking for pervert scandals by. It’s not a “plan” or anything I think anyone would support, I am just embarrassed that we, as the party of morals, accept perverts in and act shocked when this stuff keeps happening. Everyone shrugs their shoulders when the Dems get caught doing this kind of crap, because it’s expected.. but these sort of things hurt us, and it’s preventable. Not to say their aren’t other kinds of scandals, but IN MY OPINION the fact that someone is gay is warning flag for our side. All these politicians are corrupt and will get involved in sweetheart deals, etc… but what is more embarrassing and publicized? A land deal, or a gay sex scandal? And we can limit the odds by not electing gays. It’s as simple as that.

Now, let’s get back to calling me a Nazi.

Rogers did not assert that Craig was committing lewd public acts, he asserted that he was homosexual.Should all homosexuals who hold public office should just out themselves right now?
Buy Danish on August 28, 2007 at 8:39 AM

Craig denied it in 1982 and ran on the family values message for 25 years. Personally I don’t care if the guy is gay or not. But dishonesty is a different thing altogether. The republican base has set a very high bar and until they acknowledge and accept that (1) there are gays that have a conservative outlook in most other matters and (2) regardless of the christian religious beliefs that influence their position on gays, they should remember the admonition “judge not lest ye be judged”
you will continue to see the media gleefully publish these stories.

Durbin?

I don’t know what that means with any certainty, but I do know that you haven’t explained how your purge plan works exactly.

That being said, comments about “purging” homosexuals are shocking and Nazi-esque.

Buy Danish on August 28, 2007 at 10:17 AM

Thanks for weighing in Durbin.

Oy. Republicans really don’t need bad publicity like Senator Larry Craig right now. I’m sure the nutroots are in full……

One other thing – as a Christian, my energies will be devoted to concern over Larry Craig’s wife and children who must be suffering terribly right now.

I got that, thanks.

29 They were filled with all manner of unrighteousness, evil, covetousness, malice. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, maliciousness. They are gossips, 30 slanderers, haters of God, insolent, haughty, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents, 31 foolish, faithless, heartless, ruthless.

What about you? Have you never been disobedient or foolish or heartless or exhibited any number of human failings?

Is death the proper punishment?

That Someone is not me but the Apostle Paul’s inspired Commentary in the Book of Romans. As a Christian believer,my opinion was not requested, nor yours.

Oh great. Now we have someone who says homosexuals deserve to die, and that those of us who disagree with that deserve to die also. A guest commentator from the Taliban, perhaps?

flipflopper on August 28, 2007 at 9:53 AM

Gays can reproduce as well as straight people.

Come on. Gays cannot reproduce as a couple – it is a biological impossibility. Either a homosexual male couple need a female “vessel” to act as as a surrogate, or a homosexual female couple need a male sperm donor.

And then I suppose they get to argue about whose uterus will carry the child and give birth to it, and whether or not that partner is more the mother than the other. All of this contributes in part to my opposition to gay marriage (and to surrogate parenting, even for heterosexuals).

That being said, comments about “purging” homosexuals are shocking and Nazi-esque.

Gays aren’t all perverts. Straights can be perverts as well.

I like to consider being gay as an emotional trait. Maybe some people are born with the wrong body parts, or chemical imbalance? No I’m not gay, but I live in NYC :)

Further, all dems aint stupid, and all GOP aren’t perfect souls. Craig can’t be a true conservative because he’s gay?? The shallow views I read here sometimes are troubling!

God’s Wrath on Unrighteousness
18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who by their unrighteousness suppress the truth. 19 For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them. 20 For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse. 21 For although they knew God, they did not honor him as God or give thanks to him, but they became futile in their thinking, and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Claiming to be wise, they became fools, 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images resembling mortal man and birds and animals and creeping things.

24 Therefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, to the dishonoring of their bodies among themselves, 25 because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever! Amen.

26 For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; 27 and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error.
28 And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a debased mind to do what ought not to be done. 29 They were filled with all manner of unrighteousness, evil, covetousness, malice. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, maliciousness. They are gossips, 30 slanderers, haters of God, insolent, haughty, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents, 31 foolish, faithless, heartless, ruthless. 32 Though they know God’s decree that those who practice such things deserve to die, they not only do them but give approval to those who practice them.

I can’t improve on this “informed” comment

Given those reports (which now apparently have more substance than I once believed), this man should have been understood that people were aware of his unsavory behavior. That he continued (despite the reports) suggests a terrible lapse in judgment. Terrible.

Not only that, a grown man, particularly a man in public life, should know better than to do what he did. Public restrooms are not trysting spots.

Agreed.

Senator Larry Craig apparently likes to make creepy advances on strange men in airport bathrooms. Unfortunately for him, one of his random targets was a Minneapolis airport policeman.
Sen. Larry Craig (R-Idaho) was arrested in June at a Minnesota air…

What part of Craig denied any kind of homosexual conduct almost a year ago and dishonesty don’t you get?
It doesn’t matter who brought it up. You may not like him but the fact is that Craig was saying one thing in his rhetoric and doing another in his private life.

Bradky on August 27, 2007 at 11:52 PM

Rogers did not assert that Craig was committing lewd public acts, he asserted that he was homosexual.

Should all homosexuals who hold public office should just out themselves right now? Or should they wait for the Mike Rogers and his team of witch hunters to do it? Maybe you’d like to volunteer to help with that effort! I bet you could get some help right here to help you out and make it a bi-partisan effort.

I’m not trying to purge the planet of gays, because as far as I’m concerned there aren’t really gays to be purged, because I don’t accept it as being a real thing in the first place…I don’t “hate” gays, I simply don’t believe they’re “real”, based on common sense.

RightWinged on August 28, 2007 at 12:38 AM

Fine! Homosexuals don’t exist, problem solved.

/sarc.

You may not agree, but it seems clear to me that homosexuality is a perversion, and “perverts will be perverts” so the best way to not be embarrassed by them over and over again is to not have them holding nationally elected office within our party

RightWinged on August 28, 2007 at 1:58 AM

Oh, so “perverts” exist, but homosexuals don’t! I get it!

I’m waiting for your plan as to how we keep “them” from holding public office, or force those who are in office out, (but don’t you dare call it a “purge”!).

I have all the time in the world to get your answer.

“…it’s not just a coincidence that there are two different genders that have unique parts that are designed to fit together.”

It is amazing the amount of silly comments that suddenly popped in my head!

I do have to ask though: Am I the only one left here? Am I really the only commenter at HotAir who has the balls to say they don’t accept “homosexuality”? Have you all really fallen for the mainstreaming of this, or are some of you out there just hiding because you know it’s not PC to speak out against gays. Again, I find it so funny that the “gay accepting conservatives” don’t recognize that 50 years from now, they could hold their “old school/traditional” views that pedophilia is wrong, while their grandchildren have grown up learning that it’s natural for some people, and that some kids like older men.

That’s exactly the scenario we’re looking at with gays now. Nothing has changed in the way of proving they’re truly gay, but we’ve “progressed” to where most people accept them now… not for any reason other than they’ve been mainstreamed in to the entertainment industry and kids are taught that they must accept them, earlier and earlier. As I mentioned earlier, UVM, just across the river from me here has just spent $10k installing gender-neutral bathrooms for trans-gendered people (and they weren’t the first school to do it). Hell, even 10 years ago most people would say “are you f**king kidding me!?”, but now it’s barely even news… because “trans-gendered” is being mainstreamed.

(this is where a bunch of nonthinkers come in and emotionally respond by accusing me of equating gays with pedophiles)

Your entire “pedophiles” tangent (which I’m sure you thought oh so clever) was perhaps the definition of a “red herring.”

You’re using one of your most primal instincts and attempting to justify it. No wait, you’re not even attempting to justify it, someone called you on it and you used the textbook definition of a red herring. You don’t understand something (admittedly on your part) and thus you fear and hate it.

All the logical fallacies you use won’t change the fact that you’re bigoted towards gays and want to “purge” them from the Republican party. It’s pathetic.

Nonfactor on August 28, 2007 at 3:05 AM

You know what, f**k you Nonfactor. You’re as much of a liar as ever. The pedophile angle was never used to justify anything, and it wasn’t to equate anything. I spent enough time explaining in detail what I asked for SouthernDem to answer a simple question regarding what constitutes “a bigot”.

Seriously, do you ever get tired of being one of the biggest POSs on the planet? Your dishonesty is SOOOO out of control. I’m not even going to get in to this with you… you’re here just to troll anyway.

If you object to the non-procreative nature of Larry Craig’s conduct — as opposed to its public nature — what do you say to all the men here who’ve had their wives or girlfriends work the pole? Is it your view that the mouths of women were “designed to fit” there?

paul006 on August 28, 2007 at 3:22 AM

Again, as I explained to someone else who brought up that always predictable response… what is done on those fronts is a judgment call that can be made by the individual (which I guess you could say for people claiming to be gay as well), but the point is the whole “penis/vigina thang” ain’t a coincidence. These parts ARE for reproduction and they are BOTH necessary for it. There are no in betweens. Sex, is an absolute. Sex is male and female. That’s just how it is. I don’t care if you think God or evolution caused it, that’s how it is. Therefore sexual attraction, it only stands to reason is male->female and female->male.

Obviously, all other acts are not what the organs were designed for… and I can’t decide for anyone else whether doing different things you mention with the opposite sex is morally right or not… but the whole obviousness of male/female sex explained a minute ago, is enough of a guide that you should at least be doing sexual things with someone of the opposite sex. If not, who are you or anyone to tell someone he isn’t attracted to children, or animals, or sunglasses, or a pile of mud? Obviously you’d say these aren’t natural attractions, because men have a sexual attraction to women, the gender that has corresponding sexual parts.