Video: Chris Wallace smacks Bill Moyers over Rove
posted at 11:32 am on August 26, 2007 by Allahpundit
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Keljeck on August 26, 2007 at 11:37 AM
Ouch! That’s gonna leave a mark.
Good on ya, Chris, only lefties watch PBS and Bill Moyers for their version of “news”
Since I pay Moyers’ salary with my hard earned money, I demand he return it all of us who pay his salary for fraud, waste, and abuse.
rightside on August 26, 2007 at 11:37 AM
Ouch!
Dork B. on August 26, 2007 at 11:39 AM
No, Bill, we’re not questioning your ability to ascertain and gauge somebody’s faith without actually talking to them. We’re questioning your faith: in honest reporting.
deesine on August 26, 2007 at 11:42 AM
There’s never been a more appropriate time to say – OH SNAP!
RightWinged on August 26, 2007 at 11:45 AM
Oh Snap!
jharada on August 26, 2007 at 11:47 AM
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Moyers must think there’s something to be gained by p*ssing off the Christian right.
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Atheists wouldn’t care and libtards are mostly atheists. (who often call themselves “Christian” but couldn’t tell you (for example) the 4 gospels.)
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So it looks more and more like the next election is going to be a battle between a Christian and non-Christian America. I can’t say our churches are up to it, at least at this late date.
Keith_Z on August 26, 2007 at 11:51 AM
Big ouch. I guess Chris Wallace is firmly in the enemy camp now.
Rush played the Moyers clip earlier this week; what a pile of cliche-ridden manure.
JammieWearingFool on August 26, 2007 at 11:53 AM
Blithering Idiot Metro Sexual has a name: Bill Moyers
One commentator on the ‘Quote of the day’ blog suggested sending canceled donation checks to PBS in protest.
I say let’s get started.
Mcguyver on August 26, 2007 at 11:55 AM
I never quite understand what inflates these guys egos. They do a little writing and editing of other peoples writing on the news and read it. How much intelligence and skill does that take?
Blake on August 26, 2007 at 11:58 AM
Consider Billy bitch slapped
Wade on August 26, 2007 at 12:01 PM
What inflates their egos is the knowledge that they are trusted.
Keljeck on August 26, 2007 at 12:04 PM
That…..was……AWESOME! Good job Chris.
reppac122 on August 26, 2007 at 12:09 PM
Bill Moyers has excellent command of the English language. He really needs it too, so he can cover up the fact that he has no command of the facts of any given situation.
PatrickS on August 26, 2007 at 12:09 PM
That’s going to leave a mark! Ouch!
KC-135A on August 26, 2007 at 12:10 PM
SMACK!
D2Boston on August 26, 2007 at 12:12 PM
Chris Wallace … I love this guy !!
Maxx on August 26, 2007 at 12:12 PM
SMACK? More like an old fashioned ars whoopin! Nicely done Chris!
iam7545 on August 26, 2007 at 12:15 PM
Don’t worry Bill, the bruises will heal with time.
First O’Reilly and now Wallace slamming Moyers. I say time to start piling on. Any other journalists/commentators want to take their shot?
Mallard T. Drake on August 26, 2007 at 12:17 PM
That was smacktastic!
terryannonline on August 26, 2007 at 12:19 PM
My respect for Chris Wallace just went up ten fold.
TheBigOldDog on August 26, 2007 at 12:22 PM
I love intelligent factual beatdowns like that.
Good job Chris.
infidel4life on August 26, 2007 at 12:23 PM
You GO, girlfriend!
Professor Blather on August 26, 2007 at 12:24 PM
Don’t let the facts get in the way of a good story.
KCtheKat on August 26, 2007 at 12:25 PM
Hey Moyers, you better put some ice on that!
Dev on August 26, 2007 at 12:26 PM
Chris is a REAL journalist. Every news show should consider having one like him.
I love the closer “Reporting is easy when you don’t worry about the facts.”
Boo-yah!
Mojave Mark on August 26, 2007 at 12:26 PM
“Oh no he di-n’t” – Moyers
- The Cat
P.S. I here be demand a debate of the newscasters.
MirCat on August 26, 2007 at 12:27 PM
On a serious note: it boggles the mind that anyone would report on someone’s personal beliefs (on any subject) … and then not just, you know, ask them what they believe.
Or at least try to contact them.
I believe what I believe. My beliefs have changed. They’ll change again. And what I believe today may or may not bear any resemblance whatsoever to what I may have said to other people about my beliefs at some point in the past.
If you had a time machine and a good private investigator, you could write an article “proving” that I am a pro-choice anti-war agnostic Democrat.
Of course, before you run with those facts, you might want to ask me first.
Professor Blather on August 26, 2007 at 12:28 PM
P W N 3 D
Good Lt on August 26, 2007 at 12:28 PM
I really feel guilty now about NEVER EVER contributing one single cent to Public TV…NOT!!!
sabbott on August 26, 2007 at 12:28 PM
Good job Chris.
xplodeit on August 26, 2007 at 12:32 PM
Stop the bleeding,
Treat the wound and
Check for shock.
TheSitRep on August 26, 2007 at 12:36 PM
Well done, Chris. Call a spade a spade.
Spirit of 1776 on August 26, 2007 at 12:37 PM
Outstanding! Chris Wallace does what real journalists are supposed to do.
katieanne on August 26, 2007 at 12:38 PM
Do the Feds take money out of your pay check? At least you didn’t add to it.
Grab a seat Mr. Moyers. Journalism school is now in session. Looking forward to his response, if he has one!
Ordinary1 on August 26, 2007 at 12:40 PM
Head On! Apply directly to the forehead.
Guardian on August 26, 2007 at 12:43 PM
That’s awesome! I’m still laughin’!
Ordinary1 on August 26, 2007 at 12:46 PM
Here’s a NB post that’s worth checking out: On Hannity & Colmes, MRC/NB’s Bozell Targets Bill Moyers and PBS Hypocrisy
Is it true that (according to this) Moyers is a former trustee of George Soros’s Open Society Institute? Thank God he’s not biased.
MT on August 26, 2007 at 12:50 PM
“Reporting is easier, when you don’t worry about the facts.”
Dan Rather agrees.
Hawkins1701 on August 26, 2007 at 12:58 PM
Rove obviously has motive to be feigning faith–he doesn’t want to come across as the guy Moyers described. And going to church and donating to it doesnt mean anything, that could be for show; plus you can give to a church because of the charitable things it’s going to do with the money and not necessarily because of any religious belief.
Alex K on August 26, 2007 at 12:59 PM
Wallace is the Journalist and Moyers is the political hack.
NavyWife on August 26, 2007 at 1:04 PM
Moyers, yet another example of a pseudo-man who owes his fame and career to the dumbing down of America.
Montana on August 26, 2007 at 1:06 PM
Wow. I hereby nominate that statement for quote of the year.
BacaDog on August 26, 2007 at 1:11 PM
From the biography of Bill Moyers:
“Born in Oklahoma, Moyers grew up in Texas, where he received a journalism B.A. in 1956 from the University of Texas in Austin and then a divinity degree in 1959 from the Southwestern Theological Seminary…….”
In spite of the fact that Moyers is an ordained Baptist minister, he regularly demonstrates an excessive intolerance toward others – especially Karl Rove.
Rove has become an inordinate obsession with Moyers because, as he surmises, he used the Christian right to defeat the Democrats not once but twice. (of course when ministers Jackson and Sharpton do the same thing against Republicans, Moyers has a blind spot).
I laugh at the run-on adjective-laden sentences he spews toward those he dislikes, such as the following:
“Karl Rove figured out a long time ago that the way to take an intellectually incurious draft-averse naughty playboy in a flight jacket with chewing tobacco in his back pocket and make him governor of Texas, was to sell him as God’s anointed in a state where preachers and televangelists outnumber even oil derricks and jack rabbits. Using church pews as precincts Rove turned religion into a weapon of political combat — a battering-ram, aimed at the devil’s minions, especially at gay people.”
Moyers is a hypocrite in the true sense of the word.
pocomoco on August 26, 2007 at 1:13 PM
Alex, are you serious? Or did you leave the snarc switch off.
BacaDog on August 26, 2007 at 1:16 PM
Nothin’ pisses me off more that Okies and yankees pretending to be from Texas.
Either you is or you aint!
TheSitRep on August 26, 2007 at 1:21 PM
OUCH IS RIGHT!!
Is there a pill he can take for that?
DfDeportation on August 26, 2007 at 1:27 PM
Does it make you dizzy when you try to spin something that fast?
Good job Chris.
Kowboy on August 26, 2007 at 1:37 PM
It doesn’t help that the IRS suppresses religious freedom by not allowing us to talk politics from the pulpit. I hope the next time we are in power (God willing that will be ‘08) we can push and get a Religious Freedom law passed. I believe it will strengthen the Conservatives, strengthen out love for this country (through the pulpit) and allow the Church to see that we are to be active in politics and not ignore politics like we did in the early 20th Century because we believed “we are in this world but not of it.”
It is that reason that we have most of this mess today. We walked away from the temporal to focus solely on the eternal forgetting that our duty is to both (in a righteousness).
Tim Burton on August 26, 2007 at 1:45 PM
Moyers found some hearsay that supported what he said! Oh, come on, people! Isn’t that good enough?
(Isn’t it pathetic that this seems to be exactly what Moyers was saying in his own defense?)
How dare Chris Wallace expect Moyers to actually talk to the person he’s maligning! What is Wallace? A new member of the VRWC?!
JannyMae on August 26, 2007 at 1:46 PM
Rove obviously has motive to be feigning faith–
AlexK
Therefore, he is, regardless of the facts.
UnBeLievable. I’ve never seen such a blatant example of, “Don’t bother me with the facts, my mind’s made up.”
I do hope it was satire.
Dizzy, indeed.
JannyMae on August 26, 2007 at 1:50 PM
Chris is a frequent guest on the Mike Gallagher show – and he is one funny, smart guy.
This was a great video clip. Chris just wiped that stupid aggrieved letter off his shoes like so much dog squeeze.
RushBaby on August 26, 2007 at 1:51 PM
Wallace stepped up a rung on that one.
He slapped Bill with the truth so hard, George felt it.
Speakup on August 26, 2007 at 2:02 PM
Bill Moyers is such a tool. Good to see Chris Wallace pwn him like this.
Bad Candy on August 26, 2007 at 2:08 PM
Spare the rod, spoil the PBS commentator.
pedestrian on August 26, 2007 at 2:14 PM
Moyers is a leftist idealogue, and one of the top 20 worst Americans, in my way of thinking. He is very nearly as partisan, dishonest and destructive of the better aspects of American culture and government as the great Olberdouche himself.
Jaibones on August 26, 2007 at 2:15 PM
There isn’t enough ice in Antarctica for the bruise that’s going to leave…
doriangrey on August 26, 2007 at 2:21 PM
BWAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHA! Seriously, that blew me away that Moyer’s had the b*lls (but not these b*lls) to to 1) question a man’s faith, and 2) as a (cue the elitist Yalie accent) ’serious’ journalist, do something do frakkin’ serious without even doing something so ‘journalism 101′ as asking the subject involved(?!?).
bikermailman on August 26, 2007 at 2:22 PM
Female Dog in Heat, Slapped
abinitioadinfinitum on August 26, 2007 at 2:42 PM
What does one expect? “Moyer” is a religious person, who prays every night and also does devotionals from time to time. OOOOOOoops !!!! There goes a flying pig. HEHEHEHEH !
oldelpasoan on August 26, 2007 at 2:43 PM
Ooooooooo. That was good.
For another smackdown, this one on Christan Amanpour, i highly recommend the following blog. A detailed analysis of the background for her recent apology to Islam and hit oieces on Jews and Christians.
http://babbazeesbrain.blogspot.com/
pat on August 26, 2007 at 3:02 PM
and when you work for a network that gets funded by the taxpayer.
Hening on August 26, 2007 at 3:25 PM
Moyersism: not letting the facts get in the way of a good story.
Mike Wallace at least did one thing right.
profitsbeard on August 26, 2007 at 3:45 PM
And we should believe Karl Rove…because he is a Republican and Bill Moyers is a Liberal? LOL
Rove’s a good story teller according to my parents’ group of prominent GOP Giuliani and Fred supporting friends.
It’s very unfortunate that the good Christian voters in this country are so easy led, up here in “elite Manhattan”, (ahem, Rove’s description, not ours) we, ahem, know better.
In addition this guy has done more harm to the party than good, 3/4 of America, not to mention most Libertarian and Independent voters detest him and think he has something to hide.
Yeah, with that record Conservatives are sure to win.
Karl Rove needs to slip away quietly, un-noticed never to be heard from again, thank you very much.
It’s about winning people and defending Rove just because of partisan political mishigots, well you are losing big time.
AprilOrit on August 26, 2007 at 3:51 PM
I could only stomach about half an episode of “God’s Warriors”. She does a fine job of making anyone who isn’t a jihadist look like a raving maniac. She’s a vile and despicable human being.
Kowboy on August 26, 2007 at 3:51 PM
Wallace took Moyers out to the woodshed, baby.
That clip was so good I watched it twice.
SWLiP on August 26, 2007 at 3:58 PM
Good Lord April, you were supposed to post that on KOS.
Don’t worry, Hillary will be the dem candidate, and the wailing and blubbering on Kos will be deafening!
Plus we don’t have to win, so many people will vote AGAINST her that we will win by default!
BWAaahahahhaha.
ArmyAunt on August 26, 2007 at 4:07 PM
So we should just let anyone say whatever they feel like about Rove, lie or not, and accept it?
When people start doing that to you, I’ll be the one standing off to the side with the smirk on my face.
Kowboy on August 26, 2007 at 4:08 PM
How exactly did you manage to completely miss the point of both the story and the conversation?
The point here has little to do with Rove – other than the fact that his political persuasion made him a partisan target for a biased journalist.
No, my confused friend, Rove is not the point – the point here is that (because of his bias), a national journalist went with a story describing the most closely held personal views of a person … without even bother to ask that person what his views were.
Stop. Think. Try again. Take Rove out of the equation and just think about it: the story was about Rove’s religion, he based the story solely on third-person hearsay … and never even contacted the subject of the story.
How would you like it if I wrote a piece describing your personal beliefs …. based on what some people you’ve talked to think are your personal beliefs?
Try again. Read the story. Read the comments. Think. For yourself. Then post.
Professor Blather on August 26, 2007 at 4:22 PM
pwnd
lol i was watching when this was on, i about fell outa my chair laughing.
trailortrash on August 26, 2007 at 4:30 PM
Moyers is on our (the taxpayers) payroll. Privatize P.B.S.!
Hilts on August 26, 2007 at 4:31 PM
D’Oh !!! Journalism 101? I can’t wait to hear Bill’s foolish response!
leavenedbread on August 26, 2007 at 4:31 PM
That was as hard as I’ve ever seen Wallace lay one on, and it was well deserved.
drjohn on August 26, 2007 at 5:02 PM
Oh, no! You’re not “April the Illiterate Twit” from PowerLineForum … are you?! Good God, woman, do you want everyone in America to know how stupid you are?
Jaibones on August 26, 2007 at 5:16 PM
Wait … is it 3/4 of “America”, plus “most Libertarian and Independent voters”, or does the 3/4 of America include them? I always forget how your math works …
Jaibones on August 26, 2007 at 5:20 PM
Wade on August 26, 2007 at 5:41 PM
layeth the smaketh down!
Opinionnation on August 26, 2007 at 6:37 PM
To late for her to worry about that now, not that she ever would have. For some reason stupid people have no fear of exposing their stupidity, probably because they are to stupid to know what they are doing.
doriangrey on August 26, 2007 at 6:56 PM
I agree that’s the hardest I’ve ever seen Chris hit, and it was richly deserved.
Looking forward to next installment.
petefrt on August 26, 2007 at 6:59 PM
This was indeed a great and well-deserved smackdown by Chris Wallace.
What Moyers still doesn’t know is he may yet be right. Rove is a dedicated Episcopalian – Christians here know that ain’t exactly proof of faith in anything of substance. It depends on the parish, right now (there’s a civil war going on in that denomination). For those not acquainted with the details, remember that former Iranian president that preached at the National Cathedral? That cathedral is owned and operated by the Episcopal Church USA, which is who invited the guy.
Shay on August 26, 2007 at 7:02 PM
To me the problem with Bush and his Admisitration is that they have been too tolerant and polite when bare fisted fighting was called for. Couldn’t Cheney and Rove have persuaded Bush to respond to not only the likes of Moyers but to the Democrats when they figured out a successfully executed war would give us back our identity and backbone (and the WH and Congress for a long time)after 8 years of Clinton! Get rid of PBS. I resent having to pay for that biased, left leaning, very liberal station.
CCRWM on August 26, 2007 at 7:05 PM
On second thought:
Most establishment Episcopalians avidly believe the greatest victims in our society to be gays and illegal aliens, and the highest good anyone can do is throw money at the UN’s Millenium Development Goals. So if Moyers had done his homework, he would surely believe Rove to be a devout Christian.
Shay on August 26, 2007 at 7:08 PM
DINGDINGDING! Give that man a seegar! lol
Kowboy on August 26, 2007 at 7:08 PM
There is nothing more satisfying than seeing a narcisstic self absorbed smug liberal get smackedown by someone as intelligent and funny as Chris Wallace.
Rightwingsparkle on August 26, 2007 at 7:20 PM
Thud! Uh, that coould leave a mark.
freebird on August 26, 2007 at 7:22 PM
Kowboy on August 26, 2007 at 7:08 PM
Heh heh heh, already got one, but please feel free to buy me a beer…..
doriangrey on August 26, 2007 at 7:33 PM
I mean, I wouldn’t really balk at the notion that Rove is an agnostic, but Moyers is just being a douche bag. Oh noes! Journalists wrote stories claiming they heard from someone through someone that Rove mighta sorta said he didn’t quite believe in God. I heard Rove got indicted too, Moyers.
Seixon on August 26, 2007 at 7:41 PM
So what Shay? Never mind second or third thought. What you are doing is exactly what people like Moyers are hoping for. He and his liberal cronies are trying to drive a wedge between Christian Conservatives so wide that Hilary and Bill will have a clear path to lead their convey of moving vans right up to the back door of the White House.
Remember, whatever you or your congregation might think of Karl Rove’s brand of christianity, he still is christian and most of all conservative.
Remember also what this line of thinking lead to in 06′, NANCY PELOSI. Just think of the mental torture of hearing the term PRESIDENT HILLARY CLINTON for four years.
RMR on August 26, 2007 at 7:52 PM
Seixon on August 26, 2007 at 7:41 PM
Heh heh yep, I’m sure Bill Moyers has the video of Karl being “frog marched out of the white house” right next to the video of Karl confessing to friends his own agnosticism; he wished he could believe, but he cannot.
doriangrey on August 26, 2007 at 7:52 PM
Welp, Chris couldn’t have made it any simpler than that. Jounalism 101, Haha! That’s the DBM in a nutshell. Facts don’t mean anything. Like Rush says it’s ALWAYS the “seriousness of the charge.”
O’Rourke also has them nailed immortal:
“At the core of modern liberalism is the spoiled child–miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied, demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless. Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats.”
Moyers. You and your ilk need to exit this country as soon as possible.
auspatriotman on August 26, 2007 at 7:54 PM
If that be her, I gotta share. The “april” PowerLine is such a complete joke that they dedicated an entire thread to memories of her stunning, blind, partisan stupidity. There, the threads are often commenter-initiated; you just throw out a subject and off we go.
So, one of the major players (I’m just a fly on the wall there) dedicated it to april’s brain, or some such. It was a free-for-all.
Jaibones on August 26, 2007 at 8:30 PM
Alex K wrote,
And just as obviously Moyers and you and April have motive to make the accusation.
I read recently there is one Anglican bishop who is known not to believe in God. Years ago there was Episcopal bishop James Pike who publicly doubted everything.
But one can be an agnostic and still believe (rightly or wrongly) that
1. Religion has a positive influence on society and should be supported to some extent.
2. One candidate will give more support to some things religious people want, and this should be pointed out to religious people.
JimC on August 26, 2007 at 8:43 PM
Jaibones on August 26, 2007 at 8:30 PM
Heh heh,you ought to post a link to that thread so we can all enjoy it. Oh and believe me I know about women that are really stupid. I have a sister in law that can probably rival April. I used to do computer tech work and so obviously I took care of everyone related to me computer.
I went over to work on my brothers computer one time and I swear to god his wife told me to make sure that when I was done the electric cord be pointed strait down from the outlet so the computer would run faster, she said the faster the electricity went down the cord the faster the computer would run.
I was so flabbergasted that I just stood there with a shocked look on my face. My brother just shrugged his shoulders and said, what the hell I didn’t marry her for her brains…
doriangrey on August 26, 2007 at 8:48 PM
Shay’s right about the Episcopal Church (TEC) today…it’s the Green Party at prayer at the level of bishop and is tearing the Anglican Communion apart with its heretical actions. Right up Bill Moyers’ alley, I’d wager.
That said, what a smackdown from Chris Wallace. Moyers is such a smug gasbag.
Jeffersonian on August 26, 2007 at 9:07 PM
Why would Moyers worry about facts now? He’s gotten this far without them!
woodman on August 26, 2007 at 9:12 PM
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