Video: More good publicity for conservatives courtesy of Ted Nugent
posted at 3:07 pm on August 24, 2007 by Allahpundit
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Coulter didn’t do much to embarrass our side last night on H&C so the Nuge helpfully picked up the slack. Thanks, Ted!
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Funny how clips like this never make the rounds.
forged rite on August 24, 2007 at 4:58 PM
SouthernDem on August 24, 2007 at 4:54 PM
Ditto what I said about Maxx.
MB4 on August 24, 2007 at 4:58 PM
Well-Armed Lamb on August 24, 2007 at 4:07 PM
Pfffft. I disagree. Ted is an entertainer when on stage and he plays to his fans. Of course he goes over the top. That’s what makes him so popular. His fans don’t go to hear him read poetry or whine about some lefty issue. Today he’s a loud and proud conservative and there ain’t nothing wrong with that.
Guardian on August 24, 2007 at 4:59 PM
That’s what I’m talking about!!
Guardian on August 24, 2007 at 5:05 PM
Libs have ruined my family, my newspaper, my employer, my TV, my favorite places,my city, my state, my government, my country,my outlook, my life.
I do not care to appease them. If Nugent is nuts than so be it. But I don’t care what libs think or not.
JiangxiDad on August 24, 2007 at 5:06 PM
I just wish someone would end one of those interviews with, “And lastly: Dude, I so dug the riff on Journey to Center of Your Mind!”
Drum on August 24, 2007 at 5:06 PM
This didn’t get much attention either, wonder why? It took me 5 seconds to find on jihad tube, and yet nobody seems to be embedding it. It’s almost as if they won’t pay attention to Nugent unless he does something controversial. But i’m sure that’s not the case, they probably just can’t spare the three to four minutes it would take to find and embed clips like these.
forged rite on August 24, 2007 at 5:06 PM
Ochlan on August 24, 2007 at 4:02 PM
No, he’s just a friend from my old rock and roll days.
doriangrey on August 24, 2007 at 5:11 PM
PierreLegrand on August 24, 2007 at 4:32 PM
Yes, some people really do believe stuff like that, it doesn’t make them
badliberal people though, just a bit naive.doriangrey on August 24, 2007 at 5:19 PM
So what is the problem? Last time I looked we still had the freedom of speech. People don’t like it don’t buy his records. He can say whatever he wants it’s a FREE country. Moore can say what he wants CAIR can say what they want; why can’t TED say what he wants? Enough with this PC correct crap. We have little kids being suspended because they draw guns, we have people being arrested because they flush a koran who cares what someone says. WE have FREEDOM of SPEECH not FREEDOM from being offended.
unseen on August 24, 2007 at 5:21 PM
Guardian on August 24, 2007 at 4:59 PM
What is so over the top about this? Nothing.
unseen on August 24, 2007 at 5:23 PM
I agree. I don’t care who you are or what your political affiliation is, shut up and sing!
Mallard T. Drake on August 24, 2007 at 5:26 PM
Agreed. However, I was offended when Randi Rhodes played a clip on her radio show that included gun shots at President Bush. Similarly, I am offended that Ted is suggesting that the various Dims he mentioned should stick a gun in their mouths and pull the trigger. He can say it all he wants; it doesn’t help the conservative cause.
Mallard T. Drake on August 24, 2007 at 5:30 PM
One last thing, there’s a post above this one about a somolia woman who was sexually assaulted for 90 minutes in a hallway while other residents stood by and did nothing. What do you think would have happened if Nugent had been there? Or if those people had the attitude towards self defense that Nugent does? That situation would have ended in about two seconds, and the rapist would have to spend some time in the hospital before going to jail, which is what he deserves. Nugent’s got the right idea and is one of the few people with the backbone to voice those ideas.
forged rite on August 24, 2007 at 5:37 PM
There is a difference between coming to the aid of a defenseless woman being attacked and calling for national leaders to stick the barrel of his gun in their mouth and pull the trigger. I have no doubts about his values and his passion for his beliefs. His rant from stage was not appropriate nor helpful for his cause.
Mallard T. Drake on August 24, 2007 at 5:41 PM
Damned straight!
Drum on August 24, 2007 at 5:42 PM
WORDS CANNOT EXPRESS THE UTTER JOY THAT I RECEIVE FROM WATCHING THIS MAGICAL MOMENT OF UTTER CLARITY IN REGARDS TO THE PEOPLE MR. NUGENT SO TOUCHINGLY REFERS TO. THIS MADE MY F*CKING WEEK.
TALK RADIO IS NICE, BUT THIS IS WHAT WE NEED MORE OF. THANK YOU TED. THANK YOU FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY SOUL.
PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD KEEP IT UP.
thareb on August 24, 2007 at 5:45 PM
Mallard T. Drake on August 24, 2007 at 5:41 PM
You just keep right on trying to appease those wishing to take away your rights, maybe they will play nice and not take all of your rights away.
doriangrey on August 24, 2007 at 5:46 PM
Appointed to the Board of Directors of the National Rifle Association (1995-present)
Appointed Ambassador for Big Brothers, Big Sisters and Pass It On! Outdoor Mentors Program
Appointed to the Michigan Year of the Family Council by Governor John Engler
Appointed to Michigan’s Hunting and Fishing Heritage Task Force
Appointee, Michigan State Parks Foundation
Honored on the floor of the U.S. Senate in 1994
Honored in the Congressional Record by Congressman Jim Barcia, 1993
Recipient of numerous commendations from the FBI, DEA, U.S. Army, state police, sheriff departments, and police agencies nationwide
Recipient of the 1999 National Arbor Day Conservation Award
Named Father of the Year at his children’s school
Named Michigan Conservationist of the Year in 1999
Named Man of the Year by Michigan Recreation and Parks Association
Named Archery Commissioner by Governor John Engler for the Great Lakes Stage Games
Two-time recipient of the Kentucky Colonel Award, on behalf of the Commonwealth of Kentucky
Inducted into the Native American Strongheart Society by the Lakota Sioux, Northern Cheyenne and Arapahoe Tribes
Nominee, Handgun Hunters Hall of Fame
Nominee, Outstanding American Handgunner Award
Active on National Steering Committee for Bush and Sportsmen for Bush in 2004
Director, Quality Deer Management Association of Michigan, Three Rivers Chapter
Board of Directors, Sheriff Deputy (1978-present)
Michigan County Sheriff Deputy (1978-present)
Spokesman for National Field Archers Association, Mothers Against Drunk Driving (MADD), Drug Abuse Resistance Education (D.A.R.E.), law enforcement program
Keynote Speaker for 1995 Governor’s Symposium on North American Hunting Heritage, Green Bay, Wisconsin
Keynote Speaker for 1995 Native American Fish & Wildlife Society National Conference, Anchorage, Alaska
Guest speaker at International Law Enforcement Convention by invitation from Director of FBI, William Webster, Edwin Meese and President Ronald Reagan
Huron District Student Youth Counselor
Certified Hunter Safety Instructor and International Bowhunter Education Foundation Instructor
Is that enough?
jdkchem on August 24, 2007 at 5:46 PM
thats called “GAR”
triple on August 24, 2007 at 5:49 PM
I support everything that Ted said and his right to say it. If I find something offensive, like the Dixie Chicks or some Dims, I have the right not to listen to thier music or just tune them out. The way this country is going with punishing people for having thoughts. It’s ok to “agree to disagree”. I will have to listen again but did he actually say stick it in thier mouth and pull the trigger? I took it to mean the saying “shove it up your a$$”. Anyway, GO TED!!
ChrisIansNana on August 24, 2007 at 5:52 PM
Sweet delicious irony on the Nuge re: My friend since day one of Jr. High completely idolized Ted Nugent. I mean, he would get down on his knees and polish Ted’s flagpole if offered the chance. My friend the ultra liberal. Ted the ultra Conservative. That gives me such a warm feeling it should be illegal, or at least banned in Massachusetts and Utah.
Bwahahahahahahahahaha!
Neo on August 24, 2007 at 5:52 PM
pull the trigger
Inaccurate. Actually the slang for that act is “eat the gun” not suck.
The sucking reference implies a different act.
boris on August 24, 2007 at 5:54 PM
Yeah, and free speech also means commenting when someone makes an ass of themselves. That’s pretty much the whole point of these blogs.
lowandslow on August 24, 2007 at 5:55 PM
You’re 100% correct, despite the protestations of the many posters here. Just like it wasn’t the end of the world when David Vitter was banging a prostitute, but if Chuck Schumer or Bernie Sanders was doing it, the response would have been completely different.
asc85 on August 24, 2007 at 5:57 PM
commenting when someone makes an ass of themselves
Well I would comment but the rules say not.
boris on August 24, 2007 at 5:59 PM
Equating the two is preposterous. One is committing an illegal act and possibly adultery, the other is defending Constitutional rights, albeit in a crude manner. If there is moral failure in what TN does in this clip, it is in his use of vulgarities, but not in the act itself.
Drum on August 24, 2007 at 6:06 PM
I don’t think he said anything about “pull the trigger” Mallard T. Drake, it was “suck on this” along with some other impolite phrases. I think you would have to go to “Rap” “music” to hear about pulling the trigger.
Maxx on August 24, 2007 at 6:12 PM
Sorry, I may have misunderstood your point. If what you’re saying is that some at this site have double standards when it comes to morals, that is one thing. If anyone hold David Vitter to a lower standard than Schumer and Sanders, well, shame on them. But the issue that Allah is concerned with is “What will liberals think?” About what? The foul language? Well, that’s never been a concern of theirs. The call for violence regarding certain senators? That too is nothing foreign to them. What will trouble the libs about this (though they will do everything in their power to keep it hidden) is the blatant defense of Second Amendment rights mixed with the fact that the man is a conservative. You will surely hear some liberal say something like, “Hey, I’m a gun owner and defender of the 2nd Amendment. But what he says is indefensable …” Which really means that Nugent is a conservative and we won’t have any of that.
Drum on August 24, 2007 at 6:18 PM
I am not a gun owner or really know anything about the gun culture. (I support the 2nd amendment, just not high on my list of priorities.) To me “suck on my gun” suggests suicide. If gun owners know it means something else, okay fine. But what of the general public? Do they understand the nuance. If this clip were played on CNN et al., would the response be “Ted’s being crude” or “Ted advocates suicide for top Dim leaders”?
Is Ted the other side of the coin from Ward Churchill?
Mallard T. Drake on August 24, 2007 at 6:23 PM
Is that enough?
jdkchem on August 24, 2007 at 5:46 PM
It is a rather long, and in some cases odd, laundry list, but I think that Schopenhauer addressed such matters well.
Honor has not to be won; it must only not be lost.
- Schopenhauer
MB4 on August 24, 2007 at 6:26 PM
I didn’t see anything wrong with Nugent’s antics. They were juvenile … but he plays rock and roll, which is juvenile.
But it is clear that PC is not gone, and, thanks in large part to O’Reilly’s idiotic attacks on Kos for being a “hate site”, has had new life blown into it and has everyone on the net scanning their posts for “bad words” and “wishes of death for someone” (as if a wish really means anything). The suspension of that kid for just drawing a “gun” demonstrates that the idiocy is spreading unchecked.
While people may not like what Nugent said, I think it is important for him to say it so that the PC idiocy can be put to rest. Words are just words.
P.S. I never cared about what the left said along these lines, either, except that the left is being hypocritical in that their speech goes against their stated “beliefs”, while Nugent was quite consistent, though exceedingly juvenile. But that’s rock and roll.
progressoverpeace on August 24, 2007 at 6:27 PM
But the issue that Allah is concerned with is “What will liberals think?”
Drum on August 24, 2007 at 6:18 PM
I would think that Allah’s concern went well beyond “What will liberals think?, unless you consider 90% or more of the American population to be liberals.
MB4 on August 24, 2007 at 6:31 PM
Word. It’s a frigging concert first of all, not the View.
Spirit of 1776 on August 24, 2007 at 6:34 PM
Actually, I’d compare his comments to the ones the Dixie Chicks have made, except that instead of insulting his audience, he’s spoken in agreement with them.
Though I sincerely doubt that he’ll be greeted with a grammy if he gets any backlash over this.
I’m not saying that he should have said that, but when the Lefty “artists” do something similar against Bush, it’s revered as “standing up for freedom of speech.”
Esthier on August 24, 2007 at 6:41 PM
If the LEFT wants to get on their high-horse about this, somebody needs to remind them of their masturbatory fantasies of assassinating Bush. I don’t recall the LEFT denouncing that at all. Even John Kerry got into the act, but of course from him it was probably just a bad joke… you know, from the Senator that’s a bad joke.
Maxx on August 24, 2007 at 6:50 PM
First of all, it’s in poor taste and just plain dopey to publicly threaten any elected official with physical violence.
Secondly, the “machine gun” in question is a theatrical prop on a stage and is protected by the First Amendment of the United States Constitution. Numerous “celebrities” on the politcal left have said and done far worse–and advanced their earning potential because of it.
Finally, if Nugent would’ve said “Obama” rather than “Osama,” this vid would’ve gotten absolutely NO PRESS WHATSOEVER.
ScottMcC on August 24, 2007 at 6:52 PM
Mallard T. Drake on August 24, 2007 at 6:23 PM
I understand your comment, my point was simply to point out the difference between what he actually said… without regard to whatever people might infer.
Maxx on August 24, 2007 at 6:57 PM
In other words. “Yeah!”.
Schopenhauer?
Guardian on August 24, 2007 at 7:07 PM
this entire post is a Joke,I’m going to watch a redneck race and get drunk while cleaning my gun,you people are boring,
Listen to yourselves for Gods sake,
Bob
Bobnormal on August 24, 2007 at 7:23 PM
I am sick of kissing the leftist arse. The political correctness is absolutely disgraceful. I like Mr Nugent. If you don’t like colorful language you can buy earplugs! At least he is for FREEDOM! Exactly what is the left fighting for?
lilyjac on August 24, 2007 at 7:43 PM
Oy.
I quite often agree with what he says, but joking or not, here he’s just making gun owners sound like we want to stick a rifle in the mouth (or other orifice — “ride into the sunset”) of anyone who disagrees with us.
Tanya on August 24, 2007 at 7:45 PM
No matter what conservatives say, no matter how angry or “hateful”, the left always sounds so much more resentful,vengeful and anti American.
lilyjac on August 24, 2007 at 7:53 PM
Whatevah. He’s been doing this schtick for years. They only released video of it because he’s finally a threat to the Democratic establishment in Michigan. He always promises to run, but apparently he’s “actually serious” this time.
E. M. on August 24, 2007 at 8:04 PM
Listen to yourselves for Gods sake,
Bob
Bobnormal on August 24, 2007 at 7:23 PM
If we were not all so interested in ourselves, life would be so uninteresting that none of us would be able to endure it.
- Schopenhauer
MB4 on August 24, 2007 at 8:27 PM
Really ? He’s been doing this for awhile? If that’s the case then he’s got his answer to the LEFT all ready to go, and I’m anxious to hear it because he doesn’t seem like a man that would mince words.
Maxx on August 24, 2007 at 8:35 PM
I seen Ted in concert pre 9/11. He was as unabashedly pro gun, pro US then as he is now. I would go see him again, if for that alone as well as his music.
MalkinFan on August 24, 2007 at 8:55 PM
I bet a kid would get kicked out of school if he drew a pic of Ted Nugent.
TheSitRep on August 24, 2007 at 9:01 PM
I just listen to the Nugent video as I am now home with speakers.
It is a lot worse than I figured.
Ted Nugent is truly sick in the head or at the very least does an excellent imitation of someone who is.
MB4 on August 24, 2007 at 9:05 PM
Somehow, in the language of the day, I see Patrick Henry saying the same thing.
Rock on King Ted!
conservnut on August 24, 2007 at 9:12 PM
With all due respect, conservatives have been complaining for over six years now about the insanity coming from the left, and how we need to fight back. Sometimes, you have to get down in the slime to do it.
William Teach on August 24, 2007 at 9:20 PM
So does that mean Nuge aint one of the good guys? Well me neither.
If the high moral ground crowd can’t hold the majority because they’re so easy to spook, then they’re just going to have to put up with us cuz we’re not standing by while they let the country get cheated away.
Want us to “play nice”? Then don’t act like losers and don’t lose.
boris on August 24, 2007 at 9:32 PM
Sometimes, you have to get down in the slime to do it.
William Teach on August 24, 2007 at 9:20 PM
He who gets down with slime, takes great risk of becoming slime.
- Confucius’ nephew
Although if that’s what you want to do then Ted “Excrement Adventures” Nugent is defiantly your man.
MB4 on August 24, 2007 at 9:33 PM
Want us to “play nice”? Then don’t act like losers and don’t lose.
boris on August 24, 2007 at 9:32 PM
Nugent is a loser. That’s about it.
Life is really simple, but some insist on making it complicated.
- Confucius
MB4 on August 24, 2007 at 9:37 PM
God bless Chewy Nu-gut, he says things we don’t have the guts to say. I happen to agree with the general thrust of his statements & assessments; more importantly I affirm his right to say it. I doubt he cares a hoot about what anyone thinks. However, I am disappointed that he didn’t say that many of the Repubs in power are hos too. You know, all the moderate RINOs who think we should give amnesty to the lawless invaders and refuse to acknowledge that it’s all part of the NAU…Oops which includes AP, the ‘moderate moderator’ who thinks that pesky topic just went ‘poof’ when he deleted the thread he created to insult those who don’t agree with him.
Christine on August 24, 2007 at 9:40 PM
A God among peasents, a true patriot and a great purveyor of the 1st amendment !!!!!!!!!
Joey1974 on August 24, 2007 at 9:55 PM
Come on people! The wringing of hands, ohhh we might make the liberals mad… It’s time to get some b*lls and stand up to these a** holes! PC loses elections,wars and freedom. I for one agree with the nuge. SURRENDER IS NOT AN OPTION!!
build the wall on August 24, 2007 at 10:01 PM
Nugent has denied this time and time again. He got a student deferment for Vietnam, so if you you want to dump on him for that, go right ahead, but that story is bullsh*t.
forged rite on August 24, 2007 at 10:04 PM
I think the Nudge ought to get into Falconry, and add a Bald Eagle to his act. That would be freakin’ awesome!
Dork B. on August 24, 2007 at 10:11 PM
Nice try, MB4.’s an outright lie! Everyone knows that’s Bill Clinton’s story.
NightmareOnKStreet on August 24, 2007 at 10:11 PM
Traitors need to suck on machine guns? How horrible. Nuge ‘08, b*tches.
angryoldfatman on August 24, 2007 at 10:17 PM
I’d party with Nudge, you bet. That would be fun as hell!
Dork B. on August 24, 2007 at 10:28 PM
Nugent has denied this time and time again. He got a student deferment for [during] Vietnam [That might also be true, although I would not have guessed that he went to college but I will take your word for it, but they tend to "run out", so even if he did have a student defferment there is no contradiction with his "excrement adventures".], so if you you want to dump [He's the one who took the dump and apparently a lot of them]on him for that, go right ahead, but that story is
bullnugentsh*t.forged rite on August 24, 2007 at 10:04 PM
If, and I think it very unlikely just as I think that OJ’s innocence is very unlikely, the “story” is false, the let him sue in court. If it is false he could, and probably would, win big. If he didn’t want to keep the money he could always donate it to the NRA. If I was a public figure and someone said that about me I sure in the hell would sue.
Defend him if you want, but he is certainly not “my cup of tea”.
MB4 on August 24, 2007 at 10:38 PM
Nice try, MB4.’s an outright lie! Everyone knows that’s Bill Clinton’s story.
NightmareOnKStreet on August 24, 2007 at 10:11 PM
Nope, not everyone. Actually probably just about no one thinks that is Clinton’s story. Probably less people think that is Clinton’s story than the number who think that they have been abducted by space aliens or who think that Elvis is still alive. Probably far fewer in fact. Bill Clinton’s story had to do with going to Europe, etc., not dumping in his pants. Even Clinton had more class than that.
MB4 on August 24, 2007 at 10:44 PM
Good Lord some of you folks have mighty strange taste. But to each his own I suppose.
MB4 on August 24, 2007 at 10:47 PM
Hasn’t played on a good song since “Journey To The Center of The Mind” with The Amboy Dukes.
(I think guitars were powered by the Bow and Drill method back then.)
Hope his aim is better with hunting.
profitsbeard on August 24, 2007 at 10:49 PM
Bad Candy said
While prancing around with guns shooting blanks and wishing death on Obama and Hillary is vulgar, it might not be a leap to insinuate that it was a parody, and not meant to be taken seriously.
I don’t wish death or harm on Obama or Hillary, however, I do hope they lose.
The bigger issue about this video is how many people are so quick light their hair on fire and run around in circles about how horrible Ted is (remember he is nothing more than a singer) and refuse to put this in perspective. We lost our freedom of speech long ago to “poiltical correctness”, and kowtowing to those who take offense at non-sense.
Who cares what liberals think, the only offense they will take is made up for political piracy. We have seen time and time again how quick the left is to cry foul over minutae, yet have absolutely no problem with their own ilk wishing torture and death on those who disagree with their politics, and most of that isn’t parody. Many of the left truly wish hoorible things would happen to President Bush, Dick Cheney, Tony Snow, Ann Coulter, and even Michelle. I believe that the majority of the left fits into that catagory.
Rode Werk on August 24, 2007 at 11:01 PM
Nuh-uh.
NightmareOnKStreet on August 24, 2007 at 11:03 PM
Now, if he could only convert that to votes. But, alas, after the drugs wear off, the audience wont remember a thing.
csdeven on August 24, 2007 at 11:56 PM
I’m tired of explaining this, but i’ll do it one more time. If you say something about someone, it’s not their job to prove it’s false. It is, however your job to prove it’s true. And this is a minor thing, but you said you got that from Debbie Schlussel, i couldn’t find anything from Debbie herself, but i did find this comment which looks a lot like what you quoted. First, the quote from your comment -
Now the comment from Debbie’s site -
So you didn’t get it from Debbie, but from one of her commentors. And you didn’t include the wiki link because the page is no longer there. If you do a search on this subject, you’ll see this Detroit Free Press article is what is always used to back up this claim, yet no one ever actually links to the article itself. Either all these people lived in Detroit in 1990 and read this article, or they’re just repeating rumors that they saw on the internet. Which one is more likely?
forged rite on August 25, 2007 at 12:05 AM
I’ll take rumors on the net for 100 Alex. It gets tossed around here enough.
Spirit of 1776 on August 25, 2007 at 12:51 AM
So you didn’t get it from Debbie, but from one of her commentors.
forged rite on August 25, 2007 at 12:05 AM
No, I believe I got it from Debbie.
The Hypocritical Summer of Ted Nugent
“And here’s how he got out of serving in Vietnam, where many of his fans died fighting. From a July 15, 1990 Detroit Free Press profile:
And he is equally proud that the Michigan Legislature this year proclaimed him a “wholesome, traditional” man of “honesty, integrity, loyalty and patriotism.”
But Nugent wanted no part of Vietnam. He claims that 30 days before his draft board physical, he stopped all forms of personal hygiene. The last 10 days, he ingested nothing but Vienna sausages and Pepsi; and a week before his physical, he stopped using bathrooms altogether, virtually living inside pants caked with his own excrement, stained by his urine.
That spectacle won Nugent a deferment, he says, although the Free Press was unable to verify his draft status.
“The men who went should be applauded, but if I would have gone over
there, I’d have been killed, or I’d have killed all the hippies in the
foxholes . . . I would have killed everybody.” [DS: In other words, let them do the job for me, while I rock and lounge over here in safety. Whatever, Ted.]
WITH HIS WORRIES ABOUT THE draft out of the way — “I never heard from them again” — Nugent focused on his band. ”
I would believe Debbie over Nugent 24×7.
Now, if I were on a jury I would need more, but I am not. Nugent did not give anyone that he ranted about and condemned ANY benefit of the doubt at all, why should I give so much to him?
If Debbie and the Detroit Free Press are lying about Nugent, then let him sue, I would. If they are lying it should be easy to take it to court and win. His lawyer could probably get access to induction center records I would think.
Unless and until … … …
MB4 on August 25, 2007 at 1:08 AM
Maybe I should say that I also got it from Debbie.
MB4 on August 25, 2007 at 1:17 AM
Actually Nugent reminds me a lot of Al Gore. Do as I say, not as I do. I do not care for either of them. Sue me.
MB4 on August 25, 2007 at 1:27 AM
And yet, once again, there’s no link to the actual article. She linked to Nugent’s Wall Street Journal article, why not the Detroit Free Press article? You’d think with so many people citing it to back up their claim that at least one person would produce the actual article, but they don’t. And again, it’s the job of the people making the claim to prove it’s true. Spreading rumors about someone and then saying prove me wrong is just childish.
forged rite on August 25, 2007 at 1:28 AM
And Debbie says it’s from a Detroit Free Press “Profile”. Which, if the article even exists, is probably not even an interview, but just one of those articles where they relate information about someone without actually talking to them. So, even if there is an actual article, the Detroit Free Press could just be passing along a rumor like all these other people are doing.
forged rite on August 25, 2007 at 1:37 AM
And, like i said, this is a minor thing, but the quote from Debbie’s article doesn’t match the quote you originally used. Your original quote -
And the quote from Debbie’s article -
The original one says junk food, the second one says vienna sausages.
If it’s true, just prove it. No need to waste anyone’s time with idiotic lawsuits.
forged rite on August 25, 2007 at 1:51 AM
And again, it’s the job of the people making the claim to prove it’s true. Spreading rumors about someone and then saying prove me wrong is just childish.
forged rite on August 25, 2007 at 1:28 AM
Am I 100% certain that the report(s) about Nugent are true? NO.
Am I 100% sure that OJ is guilty? NO
And OJ was actually found not guilty in a jury trial.
Again, if I were on a jury, say if he sued with what should be a GREAT case if he is just being slandered and lied about, I would need more, but that is not the case. If you were in the limelight and those kind of things were being said about you, wouldn’t you sue? I sure the hell would and my temperament is much milder than his!
Nugent gave no benefit of the doubt whatsoever to those he attack so viciously in his video, to put it VERY mildly. Didn’t you listen to the vile thing and isn’t that his usual MO?
He gives no quarter AT ALL, no benefit of the doubt AT ALL so he will not get any benefit of the doubt from me. It wouldn’t be fair. And he certainly does not do the 2nd amendment any favor that is for DAMN sure.
MB4 on August 25, 2007 at 2:00 AM
Love Ted…don’t stifle that fire :)
People like you are what built the USA, definitely not the PC ..OH MY GAWD…leftists. Their vitriol is 1000 times worse….experienced it myself.
Highrise on August 25, 2007 at 2:07 AM
lefties don’t need any ammo to go after guns or the right.
Silly fairies :P . They twist statistics and use screwed up logic to brainwash the rest to believe it to get what they want. This didn’t change a thing…not one thing.
Highrise on August 25, 2007 at 2:09 AM
Very disappointing if that is true about the draft. There does seem to be a lot of quotes about it. found one site with several other quotes from him. Hope no one is voting him as poster boy for the next CPAC.
http://www.nocompromise.org/news/000731c.html
and
http://www.nraleaders.com/ted-nugent.html
Bradky on August 25, 2007 at 2:14 AM
And, like i said, this is a minor thing, but the quote from Debbie’s article doesn’t match the quote you originally used.
forged rite on August 25, 2007 at 1:51 AM
I have so many quotes/articles saved in an email account that I may have got a different one, but the one from Debbie is even more damning and her article also has a whole lot of other “stuff” about him.
I am glad you said that it is a minor thing or I would have to quote that saying about a desperate lawyer arguing the strongest, however week, point of a weak case.
You must really like some things about Nugent to defend him so. I would not expect Hillary to defend Bill with so much determination. Would you defend any and everyone with as much vigor? Would you defend those he attacked so viciously in his video? Have you done that yet?
Yet again, he gives no quarter or benefit of the doubt to others, why should I give him so much? It wouldn’t be right.
Let him stand up for himself, hr acts like he thinks that he is such a macho man’s man and sue the Detroit Free Press or Debbie or me. If you are right about him he should be able to put us all in the poor house. If he doesn’t want the money himself, he can give it to the NRA to compensate some for all the ammo he has given to opponents of the 2nd amendment.
MB4 on August 25, 2007 at 2:19 AM
lefties don’t need any ammo to go after guns or the right.
Highrise on August 25, 2007 at 2:09 AM
True, but the more ammo they have the greater chance they have of being successful. Look at the last election. I would prefer them having less ammo myself.
MB4 on August 25, 2007 at 2:23 AM
http://www.contactmusic.com/new/xmlfeed.nsf/mndwebpages/nugent%20ive%20made%20up%20for%20missing%20vietnam_31_05_2006
claims he said the following
“TED NUGENT insists he has paid his dues for avoiding the draft to fight in Vietnam – he spent “a couple of weeks ready to rock” with a giant machine gun in Afghanistan two years ago (04). The Republican rocker feels awful about avoiding the army in the late 1960s and early 1970s, but he believes he has more than made up for it. He says, “Do I feel guilt and embarrassment? Yes. “I wish I’d understood how important America’s fight against our enemies was. “But did I go to Fallujah two years ago? Damn right I did. “And was I in Afghanistan, manning a 50-calibre machine gun in a Chinook, ready to rock? Yes. “Was I there for years? No, a couple of weeks. But I am not a coward.”
Not a coward? Ayuh.
Bradky on August 25, 2007 at 2:30 AM
http://www.nocompromise.org/news/000731c.html
Bradky on August 25, 2007 at 2:14 AM
“… First thing I slayed…I was nine years old. It was a squirrel, these ladies were feeding it, you know, and I said, ‘excuse me, bam.’ No it wasn’t a pet squirrel. I had it stuffed and petted it for years after that.” – WRIF-FM, Detroit, Ted Nugent as guest D.J., September 26, 1991
I think that is pretty much the way Jeffrey Dahmer got started.
“Participants pay the Renegade Ranch (a fenced in, 300-acre canned hunting recreation area) for the animals they kill – anywhere from $500 for a wild boar to $5,500 for a six-point elk. Nugent tacks on a $250 fee for serving as celebrity guide. – Detroit Free Press Magazine , July 15, 1990″
Canned hunt, how brave.
“Ted Nugent’s Down to Earth, promises raw, unedited footage of America’s no. 1 rock ‘n’ roll bowhunter as he whacks ‘em and stacks ‘em. Nor was it hyperbole. In the first 10 minutes, viewers got bird’s-eye of broadheads fatally piercing such fearsome creatures as an armadillo, a squirrel perched in a tree, some pigs and a goat. ‘I love that part,’ said the glinty-eyed Nugent after running death scenes in sequence. ‘Let’s see it again.’ And the appalling whack ‘em and stack ‘em compendium ran all over in slow-motion replay. – The Washington Post , Recreation Section, September 23, 1990″
Wow, how very brave.
Ted Nugent is truly sick in the head. He pretty much puts Sick Vick to shame for sure.
MB4 on August 25, 2007 at 2:42 AM
Not a coward? Ayuh.
Bradky on August 25, 2007 at 2:30 AM
Text book case and then some and I can not think of a more disgusting individual, but to each his own.
MB4 on August 25, 2007 at 2:46 AM
And was I in Afghanistan, manning a 50-calibre machine gun in a Chinook, ready to rock? Yes. “Was I there for years? No, a couple of weeks.
Bradky on August 25, 2007 at 2:30 AM
Yah sure Ted. Unless things have changed an awful lot since I was in the Army, I doubt that they would have let him do anything but pose for pictures.
Of course John Kerry did go on secret missions to Cambodia, so I could be mistaken I suppose.
Nah, not THAT mistaken.
MB4 on August 25, 2007 at 2:53 AM
I’m not a Kerry fan but he did serve. However, his recollections of where he was sure seem to be flawed. What he did after he came back is reprehensible.
As for Nugent and the draft quotes. If it is true he is no better than the slime who ran to Canada causing others to go in their places. Over 58,000 people gave their life for the VN conflict — I doubt many really wanted to go but they overcame their fears, as you did, and served. The draft dodgers are lower than pond scum. That will never change.
Thanks for pointing that out about Nugent – had no idea and it caused me to find out what a true *(* he is as his comments about Japanese and South Africans to name a few show.
Bradky on August 25, 2007 at 3:01 AM
Over 58,000 people gave their life for the VN conflict
Bradky on August 25, 2007 at 3:01 AM
Many that I served with.
MB4 on August 25, 2007 at 3:05 AM
Thanks for serving – with all sincerity.
Have a good evening.
Bradky on August 25, 2007 at 3:07 AM
I doubt many really wanted to go but they overcame their fears, as you did, and served.
Bradky on August 25, 2007 at 3:01 AM
Hardly anyone wanted to go to RVN in 1971/1972. Pretty much all enthusiasm for the war was gone by then. I didn’t. Mostly though because I didn’t want to leave a certain gal that I had just meet a few weeks ago. I actually flunked a drug test that they started to give guys then before going over. The drug test was in error as the only “drug” that I had ever taken was beer. I could have said, “darn you caught me”, but I said that those who did the test must be incompetent, and by some implication him, and demanded to see the base commander and the major who was in charge said “Well OK, you pass”. Don’t think though that I didn’t have some second thoughts, but not many as it would have been too dishonorable.
Good times, bad times.
MB4 on August 25, 2007 at 3:18 AM
Defend them from what? Being called bad names? That happens to millions of people every day and is pretty weak compared to the rumor that that so many are spreading on the net without actually backing up what they say.
I think most people would look at Nugent going to Afghanistan and conclude that no, he isn’t a coward.
The first thing i hunted was squirrels, same goes for a lot of my friends. Last i checked, we’ve never eaten any people.
Did you bother to find out about the summer camp he holds every year for kids? Or that he plants hundreds of trees a year and has probably done more hands on conservationist work than most liberal enviromentalists? You might want to look into that before you pass judgement.
forged rite on August 25, 2007 at 4:24 AM
If he dodged the draft I could care nothing he has done since then will change that or the fact that he was a coward.
PR trips to the mideast are the fad now days. And the celebrities are given extremely good security details, courtesy of our tax dollars. To compare that to mlitary service is a slap in the face of the millions who have worn the uniform.
The things he is quoted as saying about Japanese, South Africans, women and others paint a picture of a very prejudiced individual.
Bradky on August 25, 2007 at 5:40 AM
Defend them from what? Being called bad names? That happens to millions of people every day and is pretty weak compared to the rumor that that so many are spreading on the net without actually backing up what they say.
Bad names? Did you even listen to the audio of his hellacious demented ranting and raving? Millions of people a day get that? On what planet? Not Earth. It sounded like he was threatening their lives and should be commited to a mental institution, unless he is just a TOTAL BLOWHARD.
I think most people would look at Nugent going to Afghanistan and conclude that no, he isn’t a coward.
Not anyone that I can think of with whom I served in the Army in RVN with would conclude anything like that. He went on a “dog and pony show”, BIG FRACKEN SELF PROMOTING PHONY DEAL.
“… First thing I slayed…I was nine years old. It was a squirrel,
Ted Nugent
I think that is pretty much the way Jeffrey Dahmer got started.
MB4 on August 25, 2007 at 2:42 AM
The first thing i hunted was squirrels, same goes for a lot of my friends. Last i checked, we’ve never eaten any people.
You conveniently left a VERY important part out. Why is that I ask rhetorically.
“… First thing I slayed…I was nine years old. It was a squirrel, these ladies were feeding it, you know, and I said, ‘excuse me, bam.’ No it wasn’t a pet squirrel. I had it stuffed and petted it for years after that.” – WRIF-FM, Detroit, Ted Nugent as guest D.J., September 26, 1991
Did you do that part? God I hope not!
Did you bother to find out about the summer camp he holds every year for kids? Or that he plants hundreds of trees a year and has probably done more hands on conservationist work than most liberal enviromentalists? You might want to look into that before you pass judgement.
So what does that give him? Some kind of “credits”? Like Al Gore who guzzles like a pig, but has “carbon credits”. Or some rapist can get “rape credits” if he makes a donation to a rape crisis center? What parent in their right mind would let their kids go on a summer camp with him anyway?
forged rite on August 25, 2007 at 4:24 AM
How can you defend such a sick blowhard POS? Just between you and me, are you his dad or mom? Not saying you are, but that would explain a lot. You sure seem to have a big case of hero worship for him that will just not be denied.
MB4 on August 25, 2007 at 6:02 AM
Where the H&%$ was our ~*#@ing content warning on this?? Geez.
Ted lost me when he blurted off-color racial nicknames for Asians on a Denver classic rock morning show a few years ago. The hosts, normally not masters of decorum themselves, ended the interview and distanced themselves from his (then-)upcoming gig.
Captain Scarlet on August 25, 2007 at 6:05 AM
forged rite, looks like you will have to send Ted “Excrement Adventures” Nugent three Christmas presents this year as it looks like Bradky and I will just be sending him a lump of coal.
MB4 on August 25, 2007 at 6:08 AM
Who cares what the loser ninnies think about Nugent.
The guy is an actual rock star and taking his stage antics seriously makes about as much sense an overanalyzing Gene Simmons face paint.
Compared to the urban gansta culture Nugent is a boyscout. Literally.
boris on August 25, 2007 at 8:06 AM
Ding ding ding…these are the same folks who will be looking to compromise with the left. Never understanding that the left never compromises its principles. It merely takes the rights compromise, consolidates its positions, then asks for more unreasonable items. The radicals define the position of both sides…the only problem is on the right we are filled with cowards who disown our radicals on the left they embrace them while talking moderately. Witness Clinton the she devil from hell…she is no moderate.
Extremism in the defence of liberty is no vice. Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.
PierreLegrand on August 25, 2007 at 9:30 AM
I guess since you are not of Asian heritage, black, foreign, and not repulsed by draft dodgers you are just A-OK with Ted.
Bradky on August 25, 2007 at 10:03 AM
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