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	<title>Comments on: Report: Vick won&#8217;t admit in plea deal to gambling or killing dogs; Update: Vick &#8220;agreed to the killing of &#8230; dogs&#8221;; Update: NFL suspends Vick indefinitely</title>
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		<title>By: ScottyDog</title>
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		<dc:creator>ScottyDog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 15:51:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>right2bright on August 27, 2007 at 3:24 PM

Who said I have a small yard?

I have a Rot because of my old Job?

Our Freedoms are being taken away one by one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>right2bright on August 27, 2007 at 3:24 PM</p>
<p>Who said I have a small yard?</p>
<p>I have a Rot because of my old Job?</p>
<p>Our Freedoms are being taken away one by one.</p>
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		<title>By: right2bright</title>
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		<dc:creator>right2bright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2007 19:24:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;ATLANTA, Georgia (AP) -- Rottweilers have passed pit bulls as America&#039;s deadliest dog breed, according to a study released Friday.
The large dogs were involved in 33 fatal attacks on humans between 1991 and 1998, the American Veterinary Medical Association said. (from 2000 article)&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;The reason my dog has been labeled a “Vicious Dog” can be traced to the hysteria over dog fighting and some irresponsible owners not the breed.
ScottyDog on August 25, 2007 at 3:05 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;
This could be the other reason they are considered vicious.

And this add doesn&#039;t help.
&lt;blockquote&gt;If you or someone you know was assaulted by a Rottweiler, you have rights.  Dog bite law is extremely complicated, which is why you need to consult a dedicated and experienced attorney immediately.  Restrictive statute of limitation laws in California can close your window of opportunity, so hesitation could prove especially costly.  Don’t wait any longer - contact a lawyer today.
Steigerwalt &amp; Associates has the knowledge &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Not saying your breed or pit bulls are or are not vicious, but publicity and the drive to exclaim any type of Rottweiler or Pit bull attack as &quot;media frenzy&quot;.

Pit bulls can be raised to be great pets, just need a strong hand and firm training, Rottweilers the same.

Bulldogs were raised to attack bulls, dachounds raised to hunt and attack, most dogs were bred for hunting or attacking, or protecting.  And they all have the ability to attack, if not raised and trained properly.

Just some people can&#039;t train strong willed dogs like the Rotts and Pits.

added note:  why would anyone have a pit or rott (oir any other active dog)in the city with a small yard?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>ATLANTA, Georgia (AP) &#8212; Rottweilers have passed pit bulls as America&#8217;s deadliest dog breed, according to a study released Friday.<br />
The large dogs were involved in 33 fatal attacks on humans between 1991 and 1998, the American Veterinary Medical Association said. (from 2000 article)</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>The reason my dog has been labeled a “Vicious Dog” can be traced to the hysteria over dog fighting and some irresponsible owners not the breed.<br />
ScottyDog on August 25, 2007 at 3:05 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>This could be the other reason they are considered vicious.</p>
<p>And this add doesn&#8217;t help.</p>
<blockquote><p>If you or someone you know was assaulted by a Rottweiler, you have rights.  Dog bite law is extremely complicated, which is why you need to consult a dedicated and experienced attorney immediately.  Restrictive statute of limitation laws in California can close your window of opportunity, so hesitation could prove especially costly.  Don’t wait any longer &#8211; contact a lawyer today.<br />
Steigerwalt &amp; Associates has the knowledge </p></blockquote>
<p>Not saying your breed or pit bulls are or are not vicious, but publicity and the drive to exclaim any type of Rottweiler or Pit bull attack as &#8220;media frenzy&#8221;.</p>
<p>Pit bulls can be raised to be great pets, just need a strong hand and firm training, Rottweilers the same.</p>
<p>Bulldogs were raised to attack bulls, dachounds raised to hunt and attack, most dogs were bred for hunting or attacking, or protecting.  And they all have the ability to attack, if not raised and trained properly.</p>
<p>Just some people can&#8217;t train strong willed dogs like the Rotts and Pits.</p>
<p>added note:  why would anyone have a pit or rott (oir any other active dog)in the city with a small yard?</p>
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		<title>By: saved</title>
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		<dc:creator>saved</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Aug 2007 11:26:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a gambling issue as much as it is a cruelty to dogs issue.  The NFL PR machine, which has invested in the dinosaur media and cable/sat media, wants the issue to be less about gambling.

Some NFL players, who have been silent lately, have expressed how dog fighting is commonplace in the NFL fraternity. And, since betting on dog fights is what this is all about, gambling is a big problem in the NFL.

Face it.  One loves gambling if one uses dog fight gambling for a thrill.

Do we want gambling addicts tainting outcomes in the NFL?  (Think about gambling addicted referees fixing NBA games...)  Those who control legal and illegal sports betting in the United States would have to consider controlling gambling addicts participating in a NFL game.  It&#039;s a logical progression.

Wouldn&#039;t this be a NFL that is dark and phony, an image that is hounding the NBA?  The NFL does not want this image.  Vick must be removed &quot;indefinitely,&quot; a euphemism for &quot;permanent.&quot;

The torturing and killing of dogs is a horror, but the purpose is to produce the ultimate animal that will help win bets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a gambling issue as much as it is a cruelty to dogs issue.  The NFL PR machine, which has invested in the dinosaur media and cable/sat media, wants the issue to be less about gambling.</p>
<p>Some NFL players, who have been silent lately, have expressed how dog fighting is commonplace in the NFL fraternity. And, since betting on dog fights is what this is all about, gambling is a big problem in the NFL.</p>
<p>Face it.  One loves gambling if one uses dog fight gambling for a thrill.</p>
<p>Do we want gambling addicts tainting outcomes in the NFL?  (Think about gambling addicted referees fixing NBA games&#8230;)  Those who control legal and illegal sports betting in the United States would have to consider controlling gambling addicts participating in a NFL game.  It&#8217;s a logical progression.</p>
<p>Wouldn&#8217;t this be a NFL that is dark and phony, an image that is hounding the NBA?  The NFL does not want this image.  Vick must be removed &#8220;indefinitely,&#8221; a euphemism for &#8220;permanent.&#8221;</p>
<p>The torturing and killing of dogs is a horror, but the purpose is to produce the ultimate animal that will help win bets.</p>
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		<title>By: Highrise</title>
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		<dc:creator>Highrise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Aug 2007 08:03:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>vick is also the idiot that thought it would be funny to sneak pot on the plane in his water bottle:

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2007/0118071mexico1.html

Dolt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>vick is also the idiot that thought it would be funny to sneak pot on the plane in his water bottle:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2007/0118071mexico1.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2007/0118071mexico1.html</a></p>
<p>Dolt.</p>
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		<title>By: ScottyDog</title>
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		<dc:creator>ScottyDog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2007 19:05:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My pups would give their lives defending me, and I’d give mine defending them.

Training dogs to be fighters for show, something beyond their natural instincts, then torturing and killing them, has no equivalence in my thinking. If there is a clear cut of behavior that is unquestionably evil, this must be it.

petefrt on August 24, 2007 at 9:16 PM

It might interest you to that Pit Bulls were selectively bred for dog fighting just like a sheep dog was selectively bred to herd sheep. The Pit Bull originally was used to herd cattle and take down marauding bulls. Hence the name of the breed. But they were selectively bred in later years to provide entertainment by fighting other animals, specifically dogs in the late 19th century.

From the American Kennel Assoc.
Their natural aggressive tendencies are toward other dogs and animals, not people

Is it right?

Should it be banned?

As a dog lover, I would say yes it is despicable but you have to remember that this has been going on for over a thousand years.

It is their natural instinct because of selective breeding.

I own a Rottweiler that has been trained for personal defense as a Police Dog and spent 6 months being professionally trained. It is his natural instinct to protect me and with his training to attack someone by a command in German.

The Rottweiler bread originated in Rome and during World War II were selectively bred to become silent guard dogs because they do not bark while protecting their owners. A good trait when using them to go after criminals.

Even though my dog has never displayed any aggressiveness to human beings my insurance company refuses to insure my house without a rider because I own a &quot;vicious dog&quot;.Some people have said I have no right to own such a dog.

My neighbors would disagree, they all love my dog Caesar including the children.

The reason my dog has been labeled a &quot;Vicious Dog&quot; can be traced to the hysteria over dog fighting and some irresponsible owners not the breed.

I think some of you need to learn a little more about dogs and how certain breeds came into existence instead of projecting your feelings of sympathy to explain this situation.

I agree about torturing and killing them but your contention they do not have an instinct to fight other dogs is factually incorrect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My pups would give their lives defending me, and I’d give mine defending them.</p>
<p>Training dogs to be fighters for show, something beyond their natural instincts, then torturing and killing them, has no equivalence in my thinking. If there is a clear cut of behavior that is unquestionably evil, this must be it.</p>
<p>petefrt on August 24, 2007 at 9:16 PM</p>
<p>It might interest you to that Pit Bulls were selectively bred for dog fighting just like a sheep dog was selectively bred to herd sheep. The Pit Bull originally was used to herd cattle and take down marauding bulls. Hence the name of the breed. But they were selectively bred in later years to provide entertainment by fighting other animals, specifically dogs in the late 19th century.</p>
<p>From the American Kennel Assoc.<br />
Their natural aggressive tendencies are toward other dogs and animals, not people</p>
<p>Is it right?</p>
<p>Should it be banned?</p>
<p>As a dog lover, I would say yes it is despicable but you have to remember that this has been going on for over a thousand years.</p>
<p>It is their natural instinct because of selective breeding.</p>
<p>I own a Rottweiler that has been trained for personal defense as a Police Dog and spent 6 months being professionally trained. It is his natural instinct to protect me and with his training to attack someone by a command in German.</p>
<p>The Rottweiler bread originated in Rome and during World War II were selectively bred to become silent guard dogs because they do not bark while protecting their owners. A good trait when using them to go after criminals.</p>
<p>Even though my dog has never displayed any aggressiveness to human beings my insurance company refuses to insure my house without a rider because I own a &#8220;vicious dog&#8221;.Some people have said I have no right to own such a dog.</p>
<p>My neighbors would disagree, they all love my dog Caesar including the children.</p>
<p>The reason my dog has been labeled a &#8220;Vicious Dog&#8221; can be traced to the hysteria over dog fighting and some irresponsible owners not the breed.</p>
<p>I think some of you need to learn a little more about dogs and how certain breeds came into existence instead of projecting your feelings of sympathy to explain this situation.</p>
<p>I agree about torturing and killing them but your contention they do not have an instinct to fight other dogs is factually incorrect.</p>
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		<title>By: moonsbreath</title>
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		<dc:creator>moonsbreath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2007 15:16:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I&#039;m wondering is where are all the pyschologist who tell us that almost all (human) abusers, first got their start by abusing animals?  What else is hidden about Michael Vicks?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I&#8217;m wondering is where are all the pyschologist who tell us that almost all (human) abusers, first got their start by abusing animals?  What else is hidden about Michael Vicks?</p>
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		<title>By: davod</title>
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		<dc:creator>davod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2007 11:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The dog fighting, reprehensible as it is, is not the biggest issue for me. Torturing already crippled dogs before killing them is the lowest level of moral turpitude.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The dog fighting, reprehensible as it is, is not the biggest issue for me. Torturing already crippled dogs before killing them is the lowest level of moral turpitude.</p>
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		<title>By: oldleprechaun</title>
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		<dc:creator>oldleprechaun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2007 09:57:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Slightly OT, but with Vick being from Newport News, VA, Surry just across the James River, and Norfolk just across the water from NN, where has PETA been during all this?  Shouldn&#039;t Ingrid Newkirk be all over the teevee?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Slightly OT, but with Vick being from Newport News, VA, Surry just across the James River, and Norfolk just across the water from NN, where has PETA been during all this?  Shouldn&#8217;t Ingrid Newkirk be all over the teevee?</p>
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		<title>By: sabbott</title>
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		<dc:creator>sabbott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2007 09:08:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael Vick will go to prison, get parolled early for &quot;good behavior&quot; and will then be hired by some terrible football team to play for them.  He will do some couch time on Oprah shedding a few tears and after a month or so all will be forgotten!  C&#039;mon, what universe have you guys been living in?  As long as he can throw or catch a football, we don&#039;t give a damn what he did!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael Vick will go to prison, get parolled early for &#8220;good behavior&#8221; and will then be hired by some terrible football team to play for them.  He will do some couch time on Oprah shedding a few tears and after a month or so all will be forgotten!  C&#8217;mon, what universe have you guys been living in?  As long as he can throw or catch a football, we don&#8217;t give a damn what he did!</p>
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		<title>By: Highrise</title>
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		<dc:creator>Highrise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2007 06:00:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>miron, I agree, that is why this goes beyond smarts imo.  What he was involved in was a power/sadist type thing.  That knows no bounds of IQ unfortunately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>miron, I agree, that is why this goes beyond smarts imo.  What he was involved in was a power/sadist type thing.  That knows no bounds of IQ unfortunately.</p>
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		<title>By: Highrise</title>
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		<dc:creator>Highrise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2007 05:59:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He really should be put away for much much longer than what he&#039;ll get.  May he feel shame for MANY more years..I doubt he will..narcissistic bastard.

He&#039;s one sick person....and anyone who hires him after needs to keep that in mind.  People who go this far in abuse of animals....abuse others, particularly women and children.

I hope we are taking note of those famous in the press sticking up for him.....there may be more rings to bust up.  Would not surprise me one bit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He really should be put away for much much longer than what he&#8217;ll get.  May he feel shame for MANY more years..I doubt he will..narcissistic bastard.</p>
<p>He&#8217;s one sick person&#8230;.and anyone who hires him after needs to keep that in mind.  People who go this far in abuse of animals&#8230;.abuse others, particularly women and children.</p>
<p>I hope we are taking note of those famous in the press sticking up for him&#8230;..there may be more rings to bust up.  Would not surprise me one bit.</p>
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		<title>By: miron</title>
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		<dc:creator>miron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2007 05:03:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How can anyone be so lacking in smarts? He could have earned his many millions, given half of it to good causes, and he would have been hailed as a hero. What a waste!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How can anyone be so lacking in smarts? He could have earned his many millions, given half of it to good causes, and he would have been hailed as a hero. What a waste!</p>
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		<title>By: Vick Suspended Indefinitely by the NFL at</title>
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		<description>[...] continues updating over at HotAir, and since I work at a job that normally doesn&#8217;t include blogging and need to be spending time [...]</description>
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		<title>By: petefrt</title>
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		<description>My pups would give their lives defending me, and I&#039;d give mine defending them.

Training dogs to be fighters for show, something beyond  their natural instincts, then torturing and killing them, has no equivalence in my thinking. If there is a clear cut of behavior that is unquestionably evil, this must be it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My pups would give their lives defending me, and I&#8217;d give mine defending them.</p>
<p>Training dogs to be fighters for show, something beyond  their natural instincts, then torturing and killing them, has no equivalence in my thinking. If there is a clear cut of behavior that is unquestionably evil, this must be it.</p>
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		<title>By: Slublog</title>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;The Epitaph to Vick&#039;s Career...&lt;/strong&gt;

Michael Vick plead guilty to a felony charge this afternoon. The Smoking Gun has the full plea agreement, and the following passage likely means the end of his NFL career: The public will tolerate quite a bit of its celebrities,......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>The Epitaph to Vick&#8217;s Career&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Michael Vick plead guilty to a felony charge this afternoon. The Smoking Gun has the full plea agreement, and the following passage likely means the end of his NFL career: The public will tolerate quite a bit of its celebrities,&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: petefrt</title>
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		<dc:creator>petefrt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2007 00:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, it&#039;s a &#039;cultural thang&#039;. And it needs to be isolated and repudiated to the full extent of the law.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, it&#8217;s a &#8216;cultural thang&#8217;. And it needs to be isolated and repudiated to the full extent of the law.</p>
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		<title>By: JWS</title>
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		<dc:creator>JWS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2007 00:39:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How can a despicable, despised by nearly everyone thing like dog fighting be worth such a loss, an entire life’s promise of greatness…gone.
JWS on August 24, 2007 at 7:43 PM

What? I don’t think so. Can you say overrated.

Zaire67 on August 24, 2007 at 8:31 PM

Uh, Zaire? I didn&#039;t say the above. Speakup did</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How can a despicable, despised by nearly everyone thing like dog fighting be worth such a loss, an entire life’s promise of greatness…gone.<br />
JWS on August 24, 2007 at 7:43 PM</p>
<p>What? I don’t think so. Can you say overrated.</p>
<p>Zaire67 on August 24, 2007 at 8:31 PM</p>
<p>Uh, Zaire? I didn&#8217;t say the above. Speakup did</p>
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		<title>By: Romeo13</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2007 00:37:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Now if we could only convince Pregnant Cows to Box to the death. We could have a barbeque after the fight.

Zaire67 on August 24, 2007 at 8:29 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;


That or dueling dolphins with spears...

Oh... dam... thats another thread.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Now if we could only convince Pregnant Cows to Box to the death. We could have a barbeque after the fight.</p>
<p>Zaire67 on August 24, 2007 at 8:29 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>That or dueling dolphins with spears&#8230;</p>
<p>Oh&#8230; dam&#8230; thats another thread&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: JWS</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2007 00:37:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You painting with a very broad brush there JWS. For every Vick there are dozens and dozens of great human being playing the game. And those players bring in money that pays a substantial portion on the freight for the entire school.

TheBigOldDog on August 24, 2007 at 7:54 PM

Agree. There are definitely some great kids playing college ball. The trouble is the marauding  illiterate thugs who have no business on a campus. Our colleges serve as a minor league for the NFL and the NBA. Letting someone play, knowing full well that he has no chance, nor any desire to, obtain a legitimate degree, is beyond foul and plenty dangerous. To justify it because said playa&#039;s bring in the cash, helps explain why we&#039;re where we are...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You painting with a very broad brush there JWS. For every Vick there are dozens and dozens of great human being playing the game. And those players bring in money that pays a substantial portion on the freight for the entire school.</p>
<p>TheBigOldDog on August 24, 2007 at 7:54 PM</p>
<p>Agree. There are definitely some great kids playing college ball. The trouble is the marauding  illiterate thugs who have no business on a campus. Our colleges serve as a minor league for the NFL and the NBA. Letting someone play, knowing full well that he has no chance, nor any desire to, obtain a legitimate degree, is beyond foul and plenty dangerous. To justify it because said playa&#8217;s bring in the cash, helps explain why we&#8217;re where we are&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Zaire67</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zaire67</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2007 00:31:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;How can a despicable, despised by nearly everyone thing like dog fighting be worth such a loss, an entire life’s promise of greatness…gone.                     
JWS on August 24, 2007 at 7:43 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

What?  I don&#039;t think so.  Can you say overrated.</description>
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JWS on August 24, 2007 at 7:43 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>What?  I don&#8217;t think so.  Can you say overrated.</p>
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		<title>By: Zaire67</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zaire67</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2007 00:29:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;A horse breaks his leg in a race and has to be put down… no big deal…&lt;/blockquote&gt;

http://www.slate.com/id/2142159/

&lt;blockquote&gt;Mean beat each other senseless in Boxing, and Pride Fighting… no big deal…&lt;/blockquote&gt;

This activity involves two consenting adults in a controlled environment.  I don&#039;t like the sport either.  But the same can be said for all professional sports.

&lt;blockquote&gt;We slaughter thousands of animals a day in meat packing plants… not a biggy…&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It&#039;s used for food and all.  Not just for sport with no social gain.  Besides, I don’t have the time to do it myself.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Kill a dog, even one you OWN, and boy is it trouble… theres a case here in Denver where a a guy shot his own dog… he’s going to get jail time… yet vets and animal shelters put down animals every day…&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I cannot comment on the referenced story without knowing all the relevant details.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Oh, and add in that if a Man causes a woman to miscarry its murder, while she can kill the fetus and its a right…&lt;/blockquote&gt;

One is a case of assault as opposed to a protected choice.  Hey, they both are murder to me.  Society does not benefit at all by allowing people to execute babies.
                                                                                                                              
Now if we could only convince Pregnant Cows to Box to the death.  We could have a barbeque after the fight.</description>
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<p><a href="http://www.slate.com/id/2142159/" rel="nofollow">http://www.slate.com/id/2142159/</a></p>
<blockquote><p>Mean beat each other senseless in Boxing, and Pride Fighting… no big deal…</p></blockquote>
<p>This activity involves two consenting adults in a controlled environment.  I don&#8217;t like the sport either.  But the same can be said for all professional sports.</p>
<blockquote><p>We slaughter thousands of animals a day in meat packing plants… not a biggy…</p></blockquote>
<p>It&#8217;s used for food and all.  Not just for sport with no social gain.  Besides, I don’t have the time to do it myself.</p>
<blockquote><p>Kill a dog, even one you OWN, and boy is it trouble… theres a case here in Denver where a a guy shot his own dog… he’s going to get jail time… yet vets and animal shelters put down animals every day…</p></blockquote>
<p>I cannot comment on the referenced story without knowing all the relevant details.</p>
<blockquote><p>Oh, and add in that if a Man causes a woman to miscarry its murder, while she can kill the fetus and its a right…</p></blockquote>
<p>One is a case of assault as opposed to a protected choice.  Hey, they both are murder to me.  Society does not benefit at all by allowing people to execute babies.</p>
<p>Now if we could only convince Pregnant Cows to Box to the death.  We could have a barbeque after the fight.</p>
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		<title>By: mountaineer musings &#187; Blog Archive &#187; rot</title>
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		<dc:creator>mountaineer musings &#187; Blog Archive &#187; rot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2007 00:21:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] many reprehensible things and be allowed to keep on playing, I&#8217;m overjoyed with the news that Michael Vick has been suspended indefinitely by the NFL. I do think they left something out of this, though: &#8220;Your team, the NFL, and NFL fans have [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] many reprehensible things and be allowed to keep on playing, I&#8217;m overjoyed with the news that Michael Vick has been suspended indefinitely by the NFL. I do think they left something out of this, though: &#8220;Your team, the NFL, and NFL fans have [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Speakup</title>
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		<dc:creator>Speakup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 23:57:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;they just didn’t think at all&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That may be it, comparing the two lives, one, comes up short.

&lt;blockquote&gt;JWS on August 24, 2007 at 7:43 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Though I don&#039;t totally agree with you there is some truth in what you&#039;re saying. 

I think our academic institutions should be for academics, sports shouldn&#039;t be part of advanced studies.

However I&#039;m sure there are a lot of people who would take exception with that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>they just didn’t think at all</p></blockquote>
<p>That may be it, comparing the two lives, one, comes up short.</p>
<blockquote><p>JWS on August 24, 2007 at 7:43 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Though I don&#8217;t totally agree with you there is some truth in what you&#8217;re saying. </p>
<p>I think our academic institutions should be for academics, sports shouldn&#8217;t be part of advanced studies.</p>
<p>However I&#8217;m sure there are a lot of people who would take exception with that.</p>
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		<title>By: TheBigOldDog</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 23:54:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;JWS on August 24, 2007 at 7:43 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You painting with a very broad brush there JWS. For every Vick there are dozens and dozens of great human being playing the game. And those players bring in money that pays a substantial portion on the freight for the entire school.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>JWS on August 24, 2007 at 7:43 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>You painting with a very broad brush there JWS. For every Vick there are dozens and dozens of great human being playing the game. And those players bring in money that pays a substantial portion on the freight for the entire school.</p>
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		<title>By: TheBigOldDog</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 23:49:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;How can some people think they won’t get caught?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

According to the plea, these morons had shirts and headbands made up with &quot;Bad Newz Kennels&quot; on them. It&#039;s not that they didn&#039;t think they&#039;d get caught, they just didn&#039;t think at all.</description>
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<p>According to the plea, these morons had shirts and headbands made up with &#8220;Bad Newz Kennels&#8221; on them. It&#8217;s not that they didn&#8217;t think they&#8217;d get caught, they just didn&#8217;t think at all.</p>
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