Surprise: Mexican senate committee protests US sovereignty

posted at 4:32 pm on August 23, 2007 by Bryan

They really are tone-deaf to the US illegal immigration debate down in Mexico City, aren’t they. First, there was that whole business with the flags during the marches. Then it was St. Elvira slamming the US for enforcing its own laws, and now the Mexican senate has joined in.

Reconquista attitudes are a lot easier to dismiss when they’re not coming straight from the Mexican government.

A Mexican Senate committee passed a measure Wednesday urging President Felipe Calderon to send a diplomatic note to the United States protesting the deportation of an illegal migrant who took refuge in a Chicago church for a year.

The committee also approved a scholarship to help her 8-year-old U.S.-born son, Saul, who is an American citizen and stayed in the United States…

“We cannot remain quiet in view of this injustice and must ask for firm action from our authorities,” Mexican Sen. Humberto Zazue said.

What sort of “firm action,” amigo?

Arellano, who was at the committee’s session, said Saul is in Chicago in the care of his godmother and will attend a Sept. 12 rally for immigration reform in Washington. She said she would help organize a rally in Tijuana that same day to demand Mexican authorities do more to protect migrants.

“For me it is very important that our government take a strong stand to defend all of us who decide to migrate to another country,” she said.

She wants the Mexican government to protect Mexicans who illegally move to the US and commit Social Security fraud.

There are no (clean) words.


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“Sovereignty”? What sovereignty?

OhEssYouCowboys on August 23, 2007 at 4:37 PM

You underestimate the breadth of English vernacular. For instace, “scummy” would work.

Blacklake on August 23, 2007 at 4:37 PM

No there are no clean words, but there is always this, hey Mexican Senate, STFD and STFU, your immigration laws are three times as restrictive as ours.

doriangrey on August 23, 2007 at 4:37 PM

Just adds more fuel to the fire. Nothing these pro-illegal people do aids their unjust cause …

darwin on August 23, 2007 at 4:38 PM

I live on Planet Bizarro. Just figured it out. Down is up and front is back.

Limerick on August 23, 2007 at 4:40 PM

I live on Planet Bizarro. Just figured it out. Down is up and front is back.

Limerick on August 23, 2007 at 4:40 PM

Yes. It’s a big comfort to know there are plenty of ~us~ all around the U. S. A., though.

RushBaby on August 23, 2007 at 4:43 PM

wait the mexican government is arguing that Mexico should do more to protect the rights of Mexicans who flee to another country over that countries laws ?

Maybe you might try doing something FOR the mexican people so that they want to stay THERE !

William Amos on August 23, 2007 at 4:43 PM

Arellano, who was at the committee’s session, said Saul is in Chicago in the care of his godmother and will attend a Sept. 12 rally for immigration reform in Washington.

What a selfish bytch. Shipping her son off … a little eight year old kid, who supposedly has “anxiety” disorders … to pander to a crowd of people for illegals.

Oh yeah … that’ll go over well.

darwin on August 23, 2007 at 4:44 PM

Oh I am really worried, not.

You know, you are right Bryan. There are no clean words. Momma always said, “If you can’t say something nice, don’t say anything at all………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………….Still thinking………………………………………………………………………………………………………….Tacos are good……………………………………………..

conservnut on August 23, 2007 at 4:45 PM

“We cannot remain quiet in view of this injustice and must ask for firm action from our authorities,” Mexican Sen. Humberto Zazue said.

A third world peon government who is now making saber rattling remarks. Oh, please make a formal declaration of war against us. Maybe then Bush will do something about the security of this nation!

Blackhawk45 on August 23, 2007 at 4:45 PM

i don’t see mexico as HAVING sovereignty when they violate ours constantly.
Let’s invade

Defector01 on August 23, 2007 at 4:46 PM

Just adds more fuel to the fire. Nothing these pro-illegal people do aids their unjust cause …

darwin on August 23, 2007 at 4:38 PM

Exactly. Let them carp, all the way to the election. Being pro-illegal will cost them Dems dearly. Is there some sort of record for the most feckless, impotent, and temporary congressional majortity ever?

Theworldisnotenough on August 23, 2007 at 4:46 PM

Oh please . . . who gives a rat’s backside what the Mexican senate committee thinks or does. Mexico is a backward third world country that can’t even control the drug cartels and rebel militias within its own border.

rplat on August 23, 2007 at 4:47 PM

I live on Planet Bizarro. Just figured it out. Down is up and front is back.

Limerick

.out ti derugif tsuj evah su fo ynaM

darwin on August 23, 2007 at 4:47 PM

We…must ask for firm action from our authorities,” Mexican Sen. Humberto Zazue said.

What are they going to do? Escort her back into the country in one of those army/drug cartel jeeps mounted with a .50 cal. machine gun, and dare anyone to do something about it?

eeyore on August 23, 2007 at 4:48 PM

Im speachless…I just can’t believe how stupid some people really are…totally speachless.

heatherrc77 on August 23, 2007 at 4:48 PM

“For me it is very important that our government take a strong stand to defend all of us who decide to migrate to another country,” she said.

Is this harpy serious? Should we cite what happens to central american “migrants” who unlawfully enter Mexico’s southern border?

Hoodlumman on August 23, 2007 at 4:49 PM

Sure, my first instinct — like yours — is to rant and rave and condemn this outrageous stupidity. But when you think about the brainless pieces of crap that we elect into our own august Senate, and you remember that this is the retarded country of Mexico, what did we really expect?

Jaibones on August 23, 2007 at 4:49 PM

That makes no sense at all! What is the Mexican senate committee protesting against? The fact that we sent one of their hardworking, honest citizens back to them, or the fact that she abandoned her kid here? (Oops, I mean the fact that we tore her family apart with our unfair anti-immigrant policies.)

And what does Arellano want her government to do to “protect” her and other “migrants”? Build a wall so they can’t go back to Mexico once they’ve left? I mean, she ran away from Mexico, and now she wants the Mexican government to make it easier for other potential Mexican taxpayers to run away, too? Why are they willingly going along with that suicidal idea? Is it because Mexico gets more of an economic boost from those who illegally work in the U.S. sending their proceeds back to relatives in Mexico? I’m totally confused…

aero on August 23, 2007 at 4:51 PM

As I stated in another post, the Mexican government said US violated the Convention of Vienna Consular Relations. Though they may have forgotten she didn’t go to the hearing in August and hid herself in the Methodist Church for a year.

kiakjones on August 23, 2007 at 4:52 PM

Hey, Mexican government:

How about spending a little less time worrying about American politics and greasing your own palms and maybe consider making your own country less of a [word redacted]hole that everybody needs to leave just to survive.

… also, help me cure my run-on sentences and send me a pony.

askheaves on August 23, 2007 at 4:52 PM

Anglophobia!

Thomas the Wraith on August 23, 2007 at 4:53 PM

Is this harpy serious?

Hoodlumman on August 23, 2007 at 4:49 PM

No. Dude, she cleans toilets in airplanes.

Like Allah deliriously noted: thank goodness she continues to speak for the illegal alien “community”.

Jaibones on August 23, 2007 at 4:53 PM

doriangrey, you bring up a good point. Human Events looked at Mexico’s immigration laws. Being an illegal alien is a felony, for which you receive a year in prison. Helping illegals will also find you in jail. That’s just a taste of their laws. Oh, and they deport more illegals than we do.

amerpundit on August 23, 2007 at 4:53 PM

A third world peon government who is now making saber rattling remarks. Oh, please make a formal declaration of war against us. Maybe then Bush will do something about the security of this nation!

Actually, I think that’s one war Bush would surrender.

Kensington on August 23, 2007 at 4:58 PM

Ooh, I know what this is all about! They’re upset because our laws allowed the kid to stay in the U.S. At age 8, having attended U.S. schools for three years, he already has a better education than 99% of their population, so they want him in Mexico! Am I right?!

No, wait. They’re protesting the fact that we sent Elvira back. I guess I’m wrong about the kid then. Their goal is apparently to eventually send their entire population here to live off our welfare state, and they get mad when we send one back every few years.

aero on August 23, 2007 at 4:59 PM

When I lived and worked in Mexico, I was required to have a Mexican issued work visa known as an FM3. This requires a police background check, a letter from the Mexican employer, and a fee. Why can’t we require the same thing?

DAT60A3 on August 23, 2007 at 5:01 PM

Is it because Mexico gets more of an economic boost from those who illegally work in the U.S. sending their proceeds back to relatives in Mexico?

Yeah, pretty much.

crazy_legs on August 23, 2007 at 5:02 PM

How much that the kid is wearing that same white suit?

BohicaTwentyTwo on August 23, 2007 at 5:02 PM

Hey Mexican Sen. Humberto Zazue ! Why don’t you form a committee so see about fixing your own frickin country so poor Arellano won’t have to come up here ?

BowHuntingTexas on August 23, 2007 at 5:04 PM

… demand Mexican authorities do more to protect migrants.

“demand” that they do more to protect people that LEAVE their country, and not demand that they do more to protect them WITHIN their country, or .. heaven forbid, protect them from “coyotes”?

Maybe if Mexican authorities spent more time correcting their internal issues (ie – ease up on all of that corruption) … well .. you all know the rest of this sentence.

I hope she does come back to Chicago – just so that I can spit at her feet, personally.

yo on August 23, 2007 at 5:05 PM

This is why we ought to start charging Mexico for the cost of handling the illegals that originated from their territory.

No one respects the US any longer. I wonder why …

progressoverpeace on August 23, 2007 at 5:07 PM

The Mexican government cannot let this go unanswered.

They should immediately impose an illegal immigrant embargo on the U.S. until we start behaving ourselves.

That’ll teach us.

Trooper on August 23, 2007 at 5:07 PM

Funny, how are Mexico’s immigrations laws treating illegals?

Kini on August 23, 2007 at 5:09 PM

I think we should notify Mexico that our borders are closed and that anyone trying to cross them would be considered and invader and would be engaged with gunfire upon the attempted entry into our country illegally. The border fence I see would be modeled upon the one that once existed between East and West Germany. If you wish to enter our nation, come through the gate don’t climb the fence.

Zelsdorf Ragshaft on August 23, 2007 at 5:09 PM

Trooper on August 23, 2007 at 5:07 PM

awesome

yo on August 23, 2007 at 5:11 PM

Talk about stones, somebody should send the Mexican Senate a message, they’re oil production is tanking, now might not be a good time to piss off American citizens by demanding we ignore our own already very generous immigration laws.

Reconquista? We don need no stingging Reconquista!

Speakup on August 23, 2007 at 5:13 PM

Trooper on August 23, 2007 at 5:07 PM

wins thread.

TexasDan on August 23, 2007 at 5:17 PM

demand Mexican authorities do more to protect migrants.

If the Mexican authorities cared about the welfare of their own citizens, perhaps they would not be migrants to begin with.

Just a thought.

infidel4life on August 23, 2007 at 5:18 PM

Don’t ya just love a country’s national government who legislates handing out money to individuals in other countries? Not to innocuous classes of people in their own country, but to specific individuals in other countries.

And for what? Ostensibly to allow that individual to receive an education in that country even though it is free to that individual by right of their citizenship in that country.

What percentage of Mexico’s own primary school-aged children don’t even go to school? They are handing out privileges to foreigners that many of their own people can’t afford. It’s disgusting.

Dusty on August 23, 2007 at 5:23 PM

Remember, it was the Mexican government who objected to us putting up a fence on US soil. They will provide for the boy if he stays in the US but won’t if he lives in Mexico? He’s also a mexican citizen.

Blake on August 23, 2007 at 5:35 PM

The committee also approved a scholarship to help her 8-year-old U.S.-born son, Saul, who is an American citizen and stayed in the United States

Why stop there??? Approve a Grant to pay for all the medical care of Illegals migrating to the U.S. and their Welfare Benefits!!! What Next???

PappaMac on August 23, 2007 at 5:38 PM

Told you. Just like the little boy who appeared before their congress, she did the same thing. Will Bush say anything about this? Will our Congress respond or stand by while someone stands before another government, a government dependent on OUR MONEY, OUR GENEROSITY, bad mouths America?

Of course he won’t, and of course they will.

madmonkphotog on August 23, 2007 at 5:45 PM

“Sovereignty”? What sovereignty?

OhEssYouCowboys on August 23, 2007 at 4:37 PM

sovereignty

Definition:

1. top authority: supreme authority, especially over a state

2. independence: the right to self-government without interference from outside

3. independent state: a politically independent state

Maxx on August 23, 2007 at 5:50 PM

I am forced to conclude that the present government in Mexico, Distrita Federale (the correct term for their capital), has totally failed to learn from their own history.

Specifically the events of 1836-37, 1846-48, and 1915-16.

cheers

eon

eon on August 23, 2007 at 5:50 PM

Mexico is invading this Country while most Americans are oblivious to the fact.

What do you call 125,000 illegals successfully crossing our borders every month?(BP STAT)

I live in So California where it has become a third world turd hole in less than 20 years because of the invasion. We have a mayor that gives speeches in Spanish and only does Spanish language TV interviews. In fact, Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa is screwing the reporter from Telemundo in exchange for interviews.

Wake up people.

If we do not send the National Guard down to the border and build the fence we will never stop the invasion from Mexico.

Personally. I think we should declare war on Mexico but that will never happen.What the Mexican Senate did was basically declare war on us.

ScottyDog on August 23, 2007 at 5:51 PM

I encourage both Elvira and the Mexican Government to continue their activities. I also encourage more of these dopey demonstrations. The more their behavior is displayed for conservative radio, Fox News, conservative blogs and website, like Hot Air, to disseminate the more access the public will get to this type of behavior and will react accordingly. We already know the public is on our side, they just have to get fed up with the whole issue. Only then will action be required, much like the firestorm that erupted over the shamnesty bill.

Weebork on August 23, 2007 at 5:52 PM

Oops, required = demanded

Weebork on August 23, 2007 at 5:53 PM

Ok. This sh*t should cause even our prissy little “representatives” in Washington to have had it. We know Washington and mexico are working together, but when they get this blatant…

JWS on August 23, 2007 at 5:53 PM

KEEP FAMILIES TOGETHER
NO MORE ANCHOR BABIES

400lb Gorilla on August 23, 2007 at 5:55 PM

What sort of “firm action,” amigo? — Bryan

LOL — Exactly !

Maxx on August 23, 2007 at 5:56 PM

I don’t think I will lose too much sleep over this one. If the Mexicans would take care of their own people and not transfer the cost to the US then this would not be an issue. Of course they have no incentive any fixing the third world crap hole of a country. I actually like Mexico, spent lots of time there, but the rich rule all and don’t plan on giving any away….

jimwesty on August 23, 2007 at 5:58 PM

Would that scholarship be in pesos?

tree hugging sister on August 23, 2007 at 6:05 PM

Is there some sort of record for the most feckless, impotent, and temporary congressional majortity ever?

it’s called the pelosi standard…

urbancenturion on August 23, 2007 at 6:09 PM

The story goes on to say that her arrest was illegal because she paid income tax in America. Huh? Wonder where she got a loony idea like that? ACLU!

pat on August 23, 2007 at 6:29 PM

What better way to distract the lumpenproletariat of the abject failure that is your country then to blame the (much) wealthier and powerful neighbor to the North? Works every time.

madne0 on August 23, 2007 at 7:07 PM

I encourage both Elvira and the Mexican Government to continue their activities. I also encourage more of these dopey demonstrations. The more their behavior is displayed for conservative radio, Fox News, conservative blogs and website, like Hot Air, to disseminate the more access the public will get to this type of behavior and will react accordingly. We already know the public is on our side, they just have to get fed up with the whole issue. Only then will action be required, much like the firestorm that erupted over the shamnesty bill.

Weebork on August 23, 2007 at 5:52 PM

Seconded.

thirteen28 on August 23, 2007 at 7:12 PM

Dear Mexico,

You are drawing very close to an act of war with your recent assinine statements. I write this small note only to remind you that the last time you had a beef with our border policies and wanted to forcibly change them, a bunch of unorganized farmers and fronteirsmen with rifles drove you all the way back to Mexico City, and only out of the kindness of their hearts were you allowed to stay the hellhole you have remained for the past century.

I would advise you to plan your next move very carefully. The US of 2007 has far, far more than farmers and fronteirsmen in their arsenel.

Peace,

The United States.

BKennedy on August 23, 2007 at 7:14 PM

Is it because Mexico gets more of an economic boost from those who illegally work in the U.S. sending their proceeds back to relatives in Mexico?

Yeah, pretty much.

crazy_legs on August 23, 2007 at 5:02 PM

It is Economics 101. Mexico receives tens of billions of dollars in revenue from illegal aliens living in the USA with no expenses.

When a Mexican illegal alien goes to the Emergency Room for out-patient health care, the hospital billing department does not generate a bill to Mexico City.

The economic reality is that illegal immigration is a lucrative windfall for the Mexican government: tens and tens of Billions of incoming revenue, and not a single expense.

ColtsFan on August 23, 2007 at 7:34 PM

BKennedy on August 23, 2007 at 7:14 PM

Remember the Alamo!

ScottyDog on August 23, 2007 at 7:35 PM

We are witnessing the most blatant racism I’ve ever witnessed. Clearly, the Mexican government does not want these people, nor do they feel compelled to take care of their own. They foist them off on other countries yet somehow have convinced them their loyalty should remain with Mexico. If my own government refused to educate me, helped create an atmosphere where employment was possible, I’d leave and never look back. Yet, we have 20 million (?) they’ve shucked off for the world to feed, educate, find employment, house, and care for their medical needs. There might not be such a huge problem if they would also encourage birth control, as all civilized countries have. The illegal’s loyalty to Mexico is very much like abused children. No matter how much you abuse them, they’ll never admit it nor demand you stop the abuse.

24K lady on August 23, 2007 at 7:46 PM

Hey Mexican Senate, no problemo! Go ahead and send her back across the border, the exact same way she got over the last two times. We have a really nice jail cell, and fifteen years or so to spend in it, just waiting for her.

pilamaye on August 23, 2007 at 8:33 PM

I wonder if they would protest if we made Mexico our 51st state in order to control our border:)I know it would never happen but it would be funny if a diplomat said that to the Mexican government.

jaybird on August 23, 2007 at 8:35 PM

The battle we face in regards to illegal immigration is a fight between abstraction and reality. The pro-illegal side remain in the abstract and flat out deny –not refute– facts that disprove their world view. The anti-illegal side sees and acknowledges the ideas behind the pro-amnesty side and uses facts to disprove it.

When an anti-amnesty person brings up a fact, the pro-amnesty start talking about abstractions like “civil rights”, and include abstract phrases like “Doing the jobs Americans won’t do” or “No human being is illegal.” When a rebuttal point is brought up by anti-amnesty people, the pro changes the subject and immediately begins an emotional attack, usually at their opponent.

The same thing happened in the Senate with the Shamnesty bill. The proponents of the bill all talked about ideas, while were easily refutable, they, Grahamnesty, Lott, Feinstein, McCain, et al, refused to respond to any refuation. End result? Complete defeat for the immigration bill.

All of these pro-illegal types will remain in the abstract and thus, will ultimately lose out in the end. So when up against these types, remember to stay in the real, with facts and don’t let them distract you with abstractions!

Weebork on August 23, 2007 at 8:48 PM

I wonder if they would protest if we made Mexico our 51st state in order to control our border:)I know it would never happen but it would be funny if a diplomat said that to the Mexican government.

jaybird on August 23, 2007 at 8:35 PM

I know you are only joking… :-)

But if Mexico, a Third World country with an entrenched oligopoly of corruption and theft and socialism, ever became the 51st state, then that would logically mean it would produce 2 more liberal Democrat Senators.

And the Senate confirms judicial appointments to the Supreme Court.

ColtsFan on August 23, 2007 at 8:54 PM

We don’t need American young men and women to be finding work. Matter of fact, we are going to make it all but impossible and unexceptable. We need these lower classes in the military protecting our castle’s, what is more important than that. Bring Elvira home now..!!! signed: Friends in high places. (sometimes you have to think like the enemy to beat them)

Legions on August 23, 2007 at 9:43 PM

“We cannot remain quiet in view of this injustice and must ask for firm action from our authorities,” Mexican Sen. Humberto Zazue said.

Oh, yeah, Senior Senator?

Why is it an injustice when America enforces her laws, especially border security and immigration laws? Perhaps we should do what you guys do on Mexican’s southern border…shoot those who cross the border because they do not look like Americans just like you guys shoot Guatamalans and anyone else who does not look like Mexicans.

I think the real crime is that the Mexican govt appears to do nothing to improve conditions in Mexico fo that their citizens want to stay in Mexico.

The False Dervish on August 23, 2007 at 9:54 PM

Mexico has a senate? Laughable.

Remember- Before she took refuge from ICE, she took refuge from Mexico.

mojowire on August 23, 2007 at 9:59 PM

Interestingly,I’ve talked to numerous legal immigrants who say the reason they left was the corrupt Mexican gov’t.

Hmmmm….

Frantic Freddie on August 23, 2007 at 10:03 PM

Frantic Freddie, yet whenever illegals are arrested or detained by either local police or ICE….the first thing they call for is the Mexican Embassy. Again, the abused child like bahavior, abused battered wife syndrome. If the Mexican govn’t really cared about it’s citizens they’d do the housekeeping necessary to keep them home, not allow them wandering the world like the homeless they are. They are not refugees, yet they feel they must leave their home, creating another home just like the one they had to flee. The guilt is firstly on Mexico, and secondly, our own corporate greed. We may have to learn to live without some of the luxuries we’ve deemed to be so acceptable.

24K lady on August 23, 2007 at 10:26 PM

Easy, guys! War on Mexico? Whoa…

All it would take to bring that pathetic sh*thole to a grinding halt would be to stop private financial transfers from being wired there. How much fun would that be?

Then we would see some action in the sombrero senate.

Hey, but there’s Good News: even if we made Mexico the 51st state, New Orleans and Chicago would remain the 1st and 2nd most corrupt cities in America. All of Mexico would tie for 3rd…

Jaibones on August 23, 2007 at 10:37 PM

Anglophobia!

Thomas the Wraith on August 23, 2007 at 4:53 PM

It’s all our fault, of course

Connie on August 23, 2007 at 10:46 PM

Mexico is a whore that hates itself.

Maybe Al Gore can figure out how to move it further away from the USA? He’s a genius ya’ know.

Hening on August 23, 2007 at 11:08 PM

Can I say F@#K Mexico now???

doriangrey on August 24, 2007 at 12:19 AM

“We cannot remain quiet in view of this injustice and must ask for firm action from our authorities,” Mexican Sen. Humberto Zazue said.

Hey we’ll trade ya…

Give our border agents the trigger happy, shoot’in from-the-hip

guns that your Border agents have and we’ll be glad

to take care of any problems you send our way.

Mcguyver on August 24, 2007 at 12:57 AM

Oh, the glorious irony — all that passion and purpose, directed at breaking our laws instead of fixing their own broken system. What is it they say about those who live in glass houses??

Furthermore, I would like to humbly request that our esteemed Congress deny further financial aid of any kind to the sovereign nation of Mexico without the express consent of their American constituents. As a legal citizen and registered voter, I would prefer that our money go to paying off the national debt, promoting rational thought through education, and national security. (Unless they wish to make the reconquistas claim true by annexing Mexico against their will — since we are taking care of them all already I doubt it will make much difference.)

I would also like to propose that instead of a fence that we grab our shovels and extend the Rio Grande from the Gulf to the Pacific. We could make piranhas and passing sharks honorary border patrol agents. If we make it wide enough, we could actually make a profit off of it as a shipping channel. It would pay for itself…

Think twice before you plan your next vacation to Cancun/Cozumel or any cruise ship that takes you to Mexico, folks. Let’s spend our money on non-whiny countries.

Numenorean on August 24, 2007 at 10:05 AM

The Mexican govn’t breeds humans for export just like they do fruits and vegetables for export to the U.S. in the winter. Somehow, the U.S. is expected to take their problems, make some sense of them, and prop up their economy. They should hang their heads in shame, yet they’ve succeeded in convincing our elected critters this is somehow our fault and we must accept their discards.

Numenorean – I’ve not been to Mexico for several years, refuse to buy anything labeled “made in Mexico” including Hershey’s chocolate. Taking it further, I don’t plan on vacationing in any U.S. city that has declared itself a sanctuary city either.

24K lady on August 24, 2007 at 10:59 AM

Along the lines of what ScottyDog said, the ‘no-go zones’ for whites have gotten increasingly larger in southern California. It used to be that a small section of the San Fernando Valley was bad. Now almost all of it is except the perimeter, and even that is starting to go bad, with small pockets of good neighborhoods. Forget about sending your kids to the public schools. The same is true for the rest of Los Angeles, except for a small section along the coast. Given the fact that they have more babies than we do, the rest of the country could be a microcosm for the rest of the country if the illegals here now are not deported. The gangs that seem to spring up in every Mexican community are a scourge. Perhaps, if you’re a young ‘pale-face,’ its time to start weighing your future in this country.

Yesterday, I sat next to an airline pilot from southern California who was born and raised here. He was appalled by how bad its gotten, how expensive it is to raise kids here, and how he has to pay for his own demographic displacement through taxes.

We sit here and talk about enforcing the borders, but demographically, the horse is already out of the barn. It’s really too late. Perhaps the US will become ethnically partitioned, as Peter Brimelow says. But I think many in the middle class will start looking at emigration, just as many of the native Britons are doing.

PRCalDude on August 24, 2007 at 2:22 PM

the rest of the country could be a microcosm for the rest of the country if the illegals here now are not deported.

*Southern California could be a microcosm…

PRCalDude on August 24, 2007 at 2:23 PM

PRCalDude, whatever happens in Calif. is on it’s way to small town America. I loved SoCal. Loved living there, although I’d been raised in the Bay Area…it was alive, vibrant, and if you couldn’t make it there you were hopeless. Within 5 years though I started to notice gang graffiti, and it wasn’t the Crips or Bloods. They’d basically left everyone alone unless you threatened their territory. Shortly after, most of the clerks in grocery stores and even dept. stores were only hiring those that spoke Spanish. Overtime, any young people (both black and white) that had been hired to bag or help you to your car with groceries were replaced. I always left for work around 5AM and one morning I noticed a garage down the alley from my back entry with 25-30 people emerging and getting into vans. It had never dawned on me it could be a safe house for illegals. I moved shortly after back to NorCal but it too had changed. I don’t think anyone, anywhere, will ever be able to dislodge the element that has overun and turned one of the most beautiful places on the planet into a ghetto.

24K lady on August 24, 2007 at 3:39 PM