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Go ahead and stick your head in the sand and while you are at the Bohemian Grove have some GWB Kool Aid.

It is not a conspiracy theory BTW, that idea went out when Bush signed the SPP Agreement in Texas.

Now if you’ll excuse me, I have a meeting with Dubya at Bohemian Grove… tonight we worship the giant owl again… after mock human sacrifice of course! And tell Alex Jones to keep his cameras away this time!!!!

Joshua Holland’s debunking piece us even worse than Hawkins attempt at calling the NAU a conspiracy.There are over 390 comments on his piece tearing his ridiculous assertions to pieces.Below is one example:

Conservasaurus Comment
Bush’s push for basically open borders is one strong argument for such a union.. so why would you suggest that immigration is unrelated to NAU?

Holland response
Not sure where anyone woild get the idea Bush wants “open borders” — I think that’s just silly — but for the sake of argument, let’s say he does.

The reason the two are unrelated is this: one (changes in immigration law) is a real package of legislation that is really moving through a legislature and the other )NAU) is a proposal made by a think tank that is not being considered by Congress.

Like Hawkins and Medved, he thinks Bush is tough on the borders and fails to realize GWB has signed the SPP with Mexico and Canada. Doing an end run around Congress, he is using agreements instead of treaties to push this through behind closed doors. This is an important point because Treaties have to be considered by the Senate.

The NAU/SPP has never been submitted to the Senate or Congress for debate. Just before the Last cloture vote on Amnesty, the Bush administration tried to add the SPP language to the bill but it never made it to the floor for debate.

The NAFTASuperhighway has been underway despite your denials.The following links prove it is being built so just saying it is not happening does not make it so.

Ron Paul-The NAFTA Superhighway
Texas DOT- Trans-Texas Corridor
Kansas City SmartPort

Environmental Impact Statement-NAFTA Superhighway
SuperCorridor & NAFTA Highway Defined

I do not know why you continue to be in denial about this as it is happening right before you eyes in the open even though yours seem to be closed shut.

Normally you make some pretty good arguments here at HotAir but on this issue you do not have any factual arguments to refute what is happening.

The difference between the Truthers and you guys is that the Truthers just totally make things up and they “Michael Moore” video and audio clips to make people say things they didn’t.

You guys appeal to people because there are issues with our borders and foreign workers, etc. So there is a genuine concern, over what we SEE happening.. the problem is, you guys make up stupid theories about a massive new highway, etc. and act as if some underground shadow government could really pull of this great conspiracy under our noses. It’s just silly. Again, there are legitimate concerns about what we’ve SEEN and still SEE happening, but it’s not even close to NAU and doesn’t involve these stupid conspiracy theories.

So this is where I’m supposed to prove a negative, right?

RightWinged on August 24, 2007 at 4:29 PM

Do you have any problems debunking the 9/11 truthers? Not so hard, is it?

Why is it impossible for you to give a legitimate argument on ANY point related to this topic?

Brilliant debunking rightwinged. Brilliant.

Still taking comments out of context.
Still waiting on your first actual fact related to the topic.

Like I said. All you’ve got is ridicule, which says it all.

Gregor on August 24, 2007 at 9:51 AM

So this is where I’m supposed to prove a negative, right?

Thanks for the info Gregor, it certainly rings true.

Christine on August 24, 2007 at 2:06 PM

Gregor is doing great work to ensure we remain a Constitutional Republic. Six months ago we were both being told we wear tin foil hats but now the facts are coming out and most Americans do not like what they see.

I too Recommend Corsi’s book, it is a great read although depressing.

I also think that folks on this website and many others have a gag order on this issue and if it weren’t for the insults, I would be sympathetic to their/his plight.

I’m surprised that AP posted anything at all about the NAU

Christine on August 24, 2007 at 1:42 PM

AP actually likes to post about the NAU, but he only does so to mock and ridicule his own readers. He has never actually debated the topic or attempted to debunk it. He posts mocking photos of Tancredo, comparisons to truthers, and then runs away and hides. He loves to link to the article by Hawkins, but then refuses to respond when someone points out that Hawkins’ debunking has since been debunked.

Dubya, FNC, CNN and Calderon are all in the pockets of the globalist “businessmen” that Calderon spoke about. It isn’t a stretch to believe that big money involved here and if we could follow the money to these unnamed businessmen, we would!
And, BTW, why wasn’t Calderon’s speech included in these pathetic clips? I’m surprised that AP posted anything at all about the NAU if there were ‘only a few angry comments’ about it’s non-coverage. Oh, I forgot, it’s a slow news day…But, I know why he chose to post these clips: they agree with his viewpoint and try to shut us up by insulting us. Actually, it has the opposite effect.

While I listen to Rick Perry telling Texans that the TTC is needed for the movement of goods and people from Mexico to Oklahoma, I will tell myself “there is no NAFTA highway.”

While I read how Governor Rick Perry vetoed a Congressional 2 year moratorium on the TransTexas Corridor, I will tell myself “there is no NAFTA highway.”

As I sit and wait for TxDOT to determine how much they [not a independent appraiser] are going to pay me for my land [to be determined by the state] that will be taken for the TTC, I will tell myself “there is no NAFTA highway.”

While DOT decides if they are going to open our highways to Mexican trucks [much against the better judgement of the Texas Department of Public Safety], I will tell myself “there is no NAFTA highway.”

http://www.corridorwatch.org

That could mean it’s MUCH worse than we think.
Paul the American on August 23, 2007 at 2:00 PM

Mistrust is the issue here.

Dude. Please.

Allahpundit on August 23, 2007 at 2:00 PM

Really dudes…

Is is not in the Representative’s interest to inspire trust in the represented?

If that trust get eroded then what is the point?

Note to our politicians:
For Pete’s sake, QUIT DOING THINGS THAT APPEAR TO BE DONE WITHOUT OUR APPROVAL!!!!

I mean how hard is that?

IDIOTS!!

Besides, our news media would most assuredly counter the “agenda” of these non-existent elites. Anyone who thinks otherwise is a silly, moronic kook.

Check out Jerome Corsi’s book and then tell me the NAU is a wild-eyed conspiracy theory. There is no better reason for the lax attitude of our gov’t to enforce immigration law.

RightWinged on August 24, 2007 at 4:27 AM

Brilliant debunking rightwinged. Brilliant.

Still taking comments out of context.
Still waiting on your first actual fact related to the topic.

Like I said. All you’ve got is ridicule, which says it all.

Money quote: “I love this stuff because if you ever doubt your own sanity, all you have to do is read this stuff and realize that you’re okay.” — Charles Krauthammer A hat tip for the video goes to……

Nice job hack.
Line one = ridicule.
Line two = ridicule.
Line three = ridicule.

You’ve got your sarcasm, misrepresentation of a comment, fake laugh out loud, and finally the calling the person a nut. You hit all three basic standards for those who have no argument.

Total points made = 0
Total actual arguments = 0
Total facts posted = 0

Nice job. Keep kissing a$$. Maybe you’ll get an iPod out of it.

Gregor on August 24, 2007 at 2:41 AM

An iPod? What are you talking about? Is that part of the conspiracy theory now? If we members of the Bush NAU propaganda militia go out on message boards to mock those exposing us, he’ll give us all iPods?

And who’s ass did I kiss? Mocking you for insisting that there should be specific poll on this site, just because you want it here is kissing the ass of…. who?

Now, if you’ll excuse me, we have our weekly “how do we silence Alex Jones” meeting. I believe we’ll be discussing how to silence you at next week’s potluck. Gregor’s march towards exposing the Truth must be stopped at all costs! Don’t you know, he has seen our maps for the superhighway on the internet!!!

RightWinged on August 23, 2007 at 9:45 PM

Nice job hack.
Line one = ridicule.
Line two = ridicule.
Line three = ridicule.

You’ve got your sarcasm, misrepresentation of a comment, fake laugh out loud, and finally the calling the person a nut. You hit all three basic standards for those who have no argument.

Total points made = 0
Total actual arguments = 0
Total facts posted = 0

Nice job. Keep kissing a$$. Maybe you’ll get an iPod out of it.

Theworldisnotenough on August 23, 2007 at 3:11 PM

I totally agree. Did everyone miss that narrowly defeated vote in the senate that would have have made this defacto true?

Nothing but strawmen when you sit around and pontificate about officials having secret meetings with actual plans to make something actually called the NAU.