Wall Street Journal still agitating for GOP immigration surrender

posted at 1:59 pm on August 22, 2007 by Bryan

Before getting into the WSJ editorial published today, let’s look at a recent poll. It’s a Rasmussen poll, published Aug 12, 2007.

Seventy-nine percent (79%) of American adults favor a proposal requiring employers to fire workers who falsify identity documents. A Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey found that just 9% are opposed while 12% are not sure.

The survey was conducted as the Bush Administration announced a series of proposals designed to crack down on illegal immigration. One proposal would require companies to fire workers if proper documents are not provided by the employee within 90 days. While this proposal has upset some immigrant-rights leaders, most Americans would like to go even further—74% believe that if a person wants to rent an apartment they should be required to provide documents proving they are in the country legally. Just 17% are opposed.

Seventy-nine percent support is indicative to anyone but the stone blind that a broad swath of the US public supports enforcing immigration law. The poll is similarly cheery for the pro-enforcement side, which includes the vast majority of Republicans.

Sixty-eight percent (68%) of Americans believe it is Very Important to improve border enforcement and reduce illegal immigration. That view is held by 80% of Republicans, 62% of Democrats, and 64% of those not affiliated with either major political party. Those figures are little changed from earlier in the year.

How, then, can a political party that is beginning to coalesce around stronger enforcement, and two of the top three of whose presidential candidates are trying to out-enforcement each other on the campaign trail, possibly be “melting down” over immigration enforcement?

That’s how the smear-happy, paranoid and out-of-touch editorialists at the Wall Street Journal see things. It’s right there in their headline.

GOP Immigration Meltdown

The sub-head takes a whack at Mitt Romney and Rudy Giuliani for their recent back-and-forth over the issue. The Journal says that the two are just angling for the “Lou Dobbs chair.” Perhaps, though, seeing as they’re hoping to get elected President of the United States and doing do requires support from at least a plurality of the voters, they’re trying to get on the winning side of a major issue by articulating positions that the public actually supports to the tune of about 4 in 5 voters. Hmm…which is more likely to be true, I wonder.

The rest of the editorial is similarly nutty. It attempts to piggyback on Giuliani’s ridiculous assertion that his allowing NYC to become a sanctuary city helped lead to the drop in the city’s crime rate (the “broken windows” enforcement used to get the credit for that), mocks ICE raids from the point of view that since they haven’t found a jihadi fruit-picker yet they must be useless, and once again threatens that you’ll end up paying more for your lettuce if the feds really enforce immigration law. This section bears a little closer inspection, though.

Under the new rules, scheduled to take effect next month, businesses with workers whose Social Security numbers don’t match their names could face criminal charges and heftier fines. It’s hard to understand the rationale of a policy that holds employers responsible for the inability of the federal government to produce secure Social Security numbers.

This isn’t actually all that difficult to implement. Most businesses don’t hire new employees every single day, so presumably they won’t find themselves buried in SSN checks on a constant basis. We have a national system for checking gun purchasers’ backgrounds at the point of sale, and that system is instantaneous: The clerk punches in the information, and back comes the sale or no sale information in seconds. It’s not perfect, thanks largely to variations in state laws governing who can and can’t purchase firearms and to fraud, but it works very well most of the time. Why can’t we do the same thing with Social Security Numbers, which among other things are used to access billions of dollars in federal benefits and can be used to steal innocent peoples’ identities? Those numbers ought to be secure; the nation’s porous borders actually contribute mightily to their insecurity, and the WSJ contributes its own weight on the side of that insecurity.

And if we actually secure the border, such checks will become less and less necessary over time. That’s also something that the WSJ editorialists don’t want to happen.

But hey, don’t blame them. They may not be looking out for your security, but they’re sure enough looking out for your salad.

Getting back to the WSJ’s theme, there is a meltdown underway, and it’s on the amnesty side of the argument. When you have to resort to comparing repeat offenders to runaway slaves (a formulation that makes Mexico, hilariously, the slave master), your side is the one that’s melting down. And your side is melting down because nearly 4 out of 5 Americans are on the other side, and they’re right. Contrary to what the WSJ thinks, immigration enforcement is a winning issue for the GOP.


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OT – Lerner is back in the hot seat.

http://www.c-span.org/

Schadenfreude on May 22, 2013 at 4:03 PM

it would take some serious leaps and bounds

Good thing Christie doesn’t have to leap or …

/snark

VibrioCocci on May 22, 2013 at 4:06 PM

I hope that Christie trips, falls on his back, flailing his little arms and legs can’t turn over to get up and bakes to a huge ash heap in the sun. As for his dem challenger … I hope she’s under him when he falls.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on May 22, 2013 at 4:06 PM

I hope Christie wins reelection as governor.

And stays in New Jersey.

MikeknaJ on May 22, 2013 at 4:07 PM

He’ll eat her alive. (oops–I mean, he’s sure to win handily..)

SailorMark on May 22, 2013 at 4:10 PM

Tough choice for New Jerseytonianites, elect the communist or elect the unknown Buono.

Bishop on May 22, 2013 at 4:10 PM

The bigger they are, the harder they fall…

Rational Thought on May 22, 2013 at 4:12 PM

I hope that Christie trips, falls on his back, flailing his little arms and legs can’t turn over to get up and bakes to a huge ash heap in the sun. As for his dem challenger … I hope she’s under him when he falls.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on May 22, 2013 at 4:06 PM

Yes, and … well … I might add … uh, um …

Yeah, I got nothing- you about summed it up.

M240H on May 22, 2013 at 4:14 PM

Is she Injun?

Schadenfreude on May 22, 2013 at 4:14 PM

So, New jersey, ya got Bouno running as a Dem, got Christie running as a Dem-Lite…who ya gonna put out there as a Conservative?

coldwarrior on May 22, 2013 at 4:15 PM

I could care less if Christie loses as a matter of fact I hope he does. He is far more damaging to Conservatives as a Republican foil than as a one-term non-sitting governor.

Conan on May 22, 2013 at 4:15 PM

I remember once thinking Christie was on my side politically.

DanMan on May 22, 2013 at 4:17 PM

The only one who could have defeated Christie was Cory Booker, now Christie will have a cake walk.

tbrickert on May 22, 2013 at 4:20 PM

I remember once thinking Christie was on my side politically.

DanMan on May 22, 2013 at 4:17 PM

You might be able to name five people in Congress who are.

beatcanvas on May 22, 2013 at 4:21 PM

If only they could both lose.

Doomberg on May 22, 2013 at 4:21 PM

She needs to do something to offset the Governor’s
Truck Tire around his Gut….

..maybe a tattoo on her Azz cheek….

ToddPA on May 22, 2013 at 4:23 PM

Soaring property taxes? Christie’s being attacked from the right. By a Democrat. Guess I’m not really surprised.

Fenris on May 22, 2013 at 4:28 PM

She looks like she could be Nancy Pelosi’s sister –

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/02/04/eye-on-politics-why-does-barbara-buono-want-to-be-n-j-governor/

rickv404 on May 22, 2013 at 4:30 PM

The bigger they are, the harder they fall…

Rational Thought on May 22, 2013 at 4:12 PM

It’s not for nothing that they call it ‘morbid’ obesity. Probably her best chance of winning and it’s literally not a bad chance.

Fenris on May 22, 2013 at 4:31 PM

Do you want to bet that she can out Democrat Christie !

savage24 on May 22, 2013 at 4:31 PM

If Buono looks like she has any chance, I’ll contribute to her campaign. The only “Reoublicans” I hate more than the Fat Man are Rubio, McCain, Miss Lucy and Flake.

bw222 on May 22, 2013 at 4:33 PM

She looks like a younger Nancy Pelosi.

BacaDog on May 22, 2013 at 4:35 PM

The only one who could have defeated Christie was Cory Booker, now Christie will have a cake walk.

tbrickert on May 22, 2013 at 4:20 PM

Was “cake walk” an intended pun?

bw222 on May 22, 2013 at 4:35 PM

A younger cross-eyed version of Pelosi…

PatriotRider on May 22, 2013 at 4:37 PM

I hope Issa has the Sgt. at Arms ready to lock Lerner up at the next hearing…

PatriotRider on May 22, 2013 at 4:39 PM

OT:
KMOV fires Larry Conners for facebook post.

He left the reservation and now he is getting burned.

tom daschle concerned on May 22, 2013 at 4:40 PM

Is she Injun?

Schadenfreude on May 22, 2013 at 4:14 PM

Racist! Made me LMAO!

kirkill on May 22, 2013 at 4:41 PM

Good,let the dems spend their money on a race they can’t win…

right2bright on May 22, 2013 at 4:44 PM

On the surface, Buono looks like a much more appealing option than Christie – seriously, how can anyone bring themselves to vote for Christie again?

Pork-Chop on May 22, 2013 at 4:46 PM

Chris Christie’s challenger is going for it with a million-dollar ad buy in New Jersey

Fat chance.

James on May 22, 2013 at 4:49 PM

Stapuff Marshmellow Man the gun grabbing scheistkoff.

Yea, OrderedPair that’s a great conclusion. (@ 4:06PM)

If he falls over he can’t be used by the Manure Spreading Media and shilled to the R’s as a viable canidate for POTUS in 2016.
Gawd help us if he becomes a distraction/diversion in the primaries.

Missilengr on May 22, 2013 at 4:55 PM

On the other hand, she does have the benefit of being a Democrat.

No small thing in New Jersey.

There Goes the Neighborhood on May 22, 2013 at 5:00 PM

Is she Injun?

Schadenfreude on May 22, 2013 at 4:14 PM

only if it helps her.

aceinstall on May 22, 2013 at 5:20 PM

The only one who could have defeated Christie was Cory Booker, now Christie will have a cake walk.

tbrickert on May 22, 2013 at 4:20 PM

Was “cake walk” an intended pun?

bw222 on May 22, 2013 at 4:35 PM

he doesnt look like he lets cake walk past

aceinstall on May 22, 2013 at 5:22 PM

i hope Christie wins reelection as governor.

And stays in New Jersey.

MikeknaJ on May 22, 2013 at 4:07 PM

100% yes.

talking_mouse on May 22, 2013 at 5:24 PM

Exit question: What would be the harm if she won?

faraway on May 22, 2013 at 5:24 PM

Exit question: What would be the harm if she won?

faraway on May 22, 2013 at 5:24 PM

What difference, at this point, does it make anyway?

kirkill on May 22, 2013 at 5:27 PM

run a 3rd party, split the vote, can them both.

dmacleo on May 22, 2013 at 5:30 PM

Christie will eat her for lunch (both literally and figuratively). ;-)

tommy71 on May 22, 2013 at 5:59 PM

That race, current polls notwithstanding, will be decided by five points or less. And likely in favor of Bouno

SAMinVA on May 22, 2013 at 6:33 PM

She looks to much like Lois Lerner for low information voters to tell the difference.

meci on May 22, 2013 at 6:51 PM

I can’t believe I’m going to stick up for christie but he’s taken on the unions and for that he has my gratitude.

As for his stance on gun control, the muslim outreach situation, the higher property taxes (which is a total joke because the tax is proportional to the price of the house so that means prices of homes in NJ are high meaning people want to live there – supply/demand/bernanke pumping up miney supply and driving down interest rates for flippers to come and sell old homes for higher prices BLAME THE REALTORS not christie), his other soft marginal republican attributes which I wish someone would list but most importantly, he needs to be in there for the 2020 census to redistrict and make more red districts (if possible). Does Jersey have term limits? If so then he’s out before 202o anyways but if not, keep him in just for redistricting alone.

athenadelphi on May 22, 2013 at 7:05 PM

I’m not particularly interested in Chris Christie’s political fortunes at this point. He’ll get no support from me. Maybe Barry will throw him an endorsement.

Kensington on May 22, 2013 at 7:09 PM

Maybe I’ll give her a nice obama embrace in the form of a campaign contribution.

voiceofreason on May 22, 2013 at 7:55 PM

As your governor, I’ll fight to give every New Jersey child the same chance I got.”

Is she claiming she’s pro-life? Give every child a chance at life (the same chance she got)?

Bet no one in Joisey notices the dichotomy.

Squiggy on May 22, 2013 at 8:08 PM

She’s probably more Conservative than the Fatboi.

HondaV65 on May 22, 2013 at 8:14 PM

I’m not particularly interested in Chris Christie. Maybe Barry BAMSTAHHHHHHH!!!!! YOU DA MANNNNNNNNNNN BAMMMMMMMY BABYYYY!!! LOVE YA BARRY OL BUDDY OL PALLLLLLL!!!!!! YAHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Kon on May 7:09 PM

cableguy615 on May 22, 2013 at 8:15 PM