Washington Times: CAIR blames its problems on the DoJ

posted at 3:55 pm on August 21, 2007 by Bryan

Ibrahim, would you like some cheese?

The Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR) says it is suffering from a decline in membership and fundraising and blames the Justice Department for listing it as an unindicted co-conspirator in a case involving a charity accused of terrorist ties.

CAIR is asking a federal judge to strike it as one of the more than 300 Muslim groups listed as unindicted co-conspirators in the government’s case against the Holy Land Foundation for Relief and Development, which is currently on trial in Dallas.

“The public naming of CAIR as an unindicted co-conspirator has impeded its ability to collect donations as possible donors either do not want to give to them because they think they are a ‘terrorist’ organization or are too scared to give to them because of the possible legal ramifications of donating money to a ‘terrorist” organization,” CAIR said in an amicus curiae brief filed in the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of Texas.

New metaphor: That’s not a bug you’re looking at, pal, it’s a feature. If CAIR didn’t have so many links to so many known terror charities, perhaps it wouldn’t get dubbed an unindicted co-conspirator. And it’s a good thing that being labeled an unindicted terror financing co-conspirator makes the donations fall off.

Then there’s the issue of membership.

The Washington Times reported in a June 11 online exclusive that IRS documents showed CAIR’s membership declined more than 90 percent from 2001 through 2006, from 29,000 to fewer than 1,700. CAIR called that article “false and misleading” and a “hit piece” in an “action alert” message that urged recipients to “show The Washington Times what you think of its biased reporting … by becoming a member” of the group.

“Our membership is increasing steadily, as is our donor base, annual budget, and attendance at CAIR events around the country promoting interfaith understanding and respect for civil liberties,” Nihad Awad, CAIR executive director said in a June 12 statement.

The Times’ reporting has ferretted out that particular statement — that CAIR’s membership is “increasing steadily” — as less than accurate.

CAIR’s motion was filed electronically last week, said the group’s attorney William Moffitt, who said the court could rule on his motion without a hearing.

Mr. Moffitt said he could not provide any numbers on CAIR’s membership, but said “there has been a decline in membership.” Asked if the numbers continued to decline after the June 12 article, Mr. Moffitt said “yes.”

Basically, CAIR is trying to get the Justice Department and media outlets to just stop telling the truth, fercryingoutloud, because it’s hurting business.


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You’d need an electron microscope to see the violin.

trubble on August 21, 2007 at 4:01 PM

It’s hard out here for a pimp jihadi sympathizers.

KelliD on August 21, 2007 at 4:04 PM

Join me when I say, “Boo Hoo”.

ej_pez on August 21, 2007 at 4:05 PM

What CAIR is saying is: “It all started when he hit me back.”

Attila (Pillage Idiot) on August 21, 2007 at 4:05 PM

Boo Hoo.

Good job all.

ej_pez on August 21, 2007 at 4:05 PM

I look forward to the day when I can live my life without a CAIR in the world.

ej_pez on August 21, 2007 at 4:06 PM

Awwwww, poor CAIR…. they are finding out that carrying water for HAMAS doesn’t make them popular? Why, who could POSSIBLY think that shilling for mass murder, terrorists, people who brag about how they will kill Americans, etc. could maybe, just maybe, you know, not go over well with said targets?

Really, the nerve to think that words have consequences. Let alone actions.

It’s like saying a member of the Popular Mechanics editorial board will be welcomed with open arms at the Loose Change editorial committee meeting!

/Do I need to say I’m being sarcastic?

Vanceone on August 21, 2007 at 4:09 PM

ROFL!!

E L Frederick (Sniper One) on August 21, 2007 at 4:17 PM

A fine whine…

…which has been aging for around 1400 years. Hoop inherits a primo product.

eeyore on August 21, 2007 at 4:21 PM

Cue Joe Cocker: “♫Cry me a river…♪♫”

Bigfoot on August 21, 2007 at 4:21 PM

Wait a minute–their membership is increasing and decreasing? Their donor base and annual budget are increasing, but their ability to collect donations has been impeded? Does it just depend upon which day you catch them?

By the way, my first post. Greetings, everyone. :)

DrMagnolias on August 21, 2007 at 4:24 PM

Well, if the moderate, law abiding Muslims can’t find it in themselves to speak out against terrorism, at least they are not financially supporting them. IMO, the war against radical Islam will be won when Muslims who are not radical haters rise up and help us fight the murdering terrorists. Right now, I find their silence very disturbing at best.

katieanne on August 21, 2007 at 4:26 PM

If I thought the DOJ was the seat of all CAIR’s problems, I’d be campaigning for Alberto Gonzalez for president…

Jonas Parker on August 21, 2007 at 4:37 PM

If CAIR didn’t have so many links to so many known terror charities, perhaps it wouldn’t get dubbed an unindicted co-conspirator.

If having “links” to so many known terror charities the situation wouldn’t be quite so bad ( well relatively speaking).

http://www.anti-cair-net.org/

– Points to Ponder –
CAIR Employees And Officials Support Terror

Senior CAIR employee Randall Todd Royer, a/k/a “Ismail” Royer, pled guilty and was sentenced to twenty years in prison
for participating in a network of militant jihadists centered in Northern Virginia. He admitted to aiding and abetting three persons
who sought training in a terrorist camp in Pakistan for the purpose of waging jihad against American troops in Afghanistan.
Royer’s illegal actions occurred while he was employed with CAIR

CAIR’s Director of Community Relations, Bassem Khafagi , was arrested by the United States due to his ties with a
terror-financing front group. Khafagi pled guilty to charges of visa and bank fraud, and agreed to be deported to Egypt.
Khafagi’s illegal actions occurred while he was employed by CAIR.

On December 18, 2002, Ghassan Elashi, founding board member of CAIR-Texas, a founder of the Holy Land Foundation,
and a brother-in-law of Musa Abu Marzook , was arrested by the United States and charged with, among other things,
making false statements on export declarations, dealing in the property of a designated terrorist organization, conspiracy
and money laundering. Ghassan Elashi committed his crimes while working at CAIR, and was found Guilty.

CAIR Board Member Imam Siraj Wahaj, an un-indicted co-conspirator in the first World Trade Center bombing,
has called for replacing the American government with an Islamic caliphate, and warned that America will crumble
unless it accepts Islam.

Rabih Haddad served as a CAIR Fundraiser. Haddad was co-founder of the Global Relief Foundation (“GRF”).
GRF was designated by the US Treasury Department for financing the Al Qaida and other terrorist organizations
and its assets were frozen by the US Government on December 14, 2001.

doriangrey on August 21, 2007 at 4:47 PM

It sounds as if CAIR is STILL getting SOME donations from SOMEWHERE. I would suspect overseas, but if not, who in the US is giving funds to them??? Don’t they have to report this?

mimi1220 on August 21, 2007 at 4:48 PM

…the war…will be won when Muslims who are not radical haters rise up and help us…
katieanne on August 21, 2007 at 4:26 PM

For very many, that’s simply never going to happen. In 1990, I read a Muslim saying that they can’t actively oppose the radicals: “The Qur’an teaches us: Better the worst Muslim than the best unbeliever. We are therefore forbidden to do anything which could cause a Muslim to come to harm at the hands of an unbeliever.” I’ve heard versions of this time and time again over the years. I even saw this stated as possibly a majority opinion in part of the coverage of the 17 Ontario jihadis.

eeyore on August 21, 2007 at 4:59 PM

I won’t be happy til their membership is Zero. Until then, keep it up DoJ.

Thomas the Wraith on August 21, 2007 at 5:06 PM

Thomas the Wraith on August 21, 2007 at 5:06 PM

I wont be happy until their membership is behind bars where they belong.

doriangrey on August 21, 2007 at 5:24 PM

Can’t say it enough times: boo-freakin’-hoo.

stonemeister on August 21, 2007 at 5:40 PM

“For very many, that’s simply never going to happen. In 1990, I read a Muslim saying that they can’t actively oppose the radicals: “The Qur’an teaches us: Better the worst Muslim than the best unbeliever. We are therefore forbidden to do anything which could cause a Muslim to come to harm at the hands of an unbeliever.” I’ve heard versions of this time and time again over the years. I even saw this stated as possibly a majority opinion in part of the coverage of the 17 Ontario jihadis.

eeyore on August 21, 2007 at 4:59 PM

That’s very interesting. What does that say about these people as human beings? As a Christian, I certainly do not support murder in the name of Christianity. From information like this and other things I have read, I find it impossible to believe that Islam is kind and peaceful religion as many like to portray it. It seems to me to be a religion of intolerance and hate.

katieanne on August 21, 2007 at 5:40 PM

Note that they are seeking affirmative relief for themselves but are filing merely an amicus brief. Because if they were actually a party to the suit, they were be subject to, yannow, discovery and such . . .

quiggs on August 21, 2007 at 5:41 PM

Are these mealy-mouthed hypocrites that dense that they cannot see the incongruity of their own arguments?

—–Welcome DrMagnolias!

IrishEi on August 21, 2007 at 5:42 PM

Thank you, IrishEi! It is truly my pleasure to be among such sharp minds.

DrMagnolias on August 21, 2007 at 6:04 PM

In 1990, I read a Muslim saying that they can’t actively oppose the radicals: “The Qur’an teaches us: Better the worst Muslim than the best unbeliever. We are therefore forbidden to do anything which could cause a Muslim to come to harm at the hands of an unbeliever.” I’ve heard versions of this time and time again over the years. I even saw this stated as possibly a majority opinion in part of the coverage of the 17 Ontario jihadis.

eeyore on August 21, 2007 at 4:59 PM

I wonder if polling muslims on that issue would turn up interesting results.

Kralizec on August 21, 2007 at 8:53 PM

Islam, the Religion of Piece(s)! That’s what they leave behind after they blow up innocent women and children. Not to mention the pieces of infrastructure damaged or destroyed by the same explosion. True Christianity is the Religion of Love and Peace while Islam is the Religion of Hate and Violence.

TruthToBeTold on August 21, 2007 at 9:02 PM

Wow, you guys are really mean.

You act as if CAIR were actually a bad influence upon the American society.

;-)

Join me when I say, “Boo Hoo”.

ej_pez on August 21, 2007 at 4:05 PM

Touche!

Darnell Clayton on August 21, 2007 at 11:40 PM

poor babies. cair, you aren’t playing in your sandbox anymore, you are in ours. They aren’t the same rules….deal.

Highrise on August 22, 2007 at 3:20 AM

Looking at America’s problems today; if I was a religious person I would thank the Lord every day for giving our forefathers the strength, foresite, and wisdom to provide us with the Second Amendment. Amen

Ernest on August 22, 2007 at 9:26 AM