Obama’s wife attacks Hillary?
posted at 12:18 pm on August 21, 2007 by Allahpundit
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Drudge and I are late to this but Rush Limbaugh was all over it Friday. Eh, sounds to me like she was just blowing smoke about family values:
‘One of the most important things that we need to know about the next President of the United States is, is he somebody that shares our values? Is he somebody that respects family? Is [he] a good and decent person? So our view was that, if you can’t run your own house, you certainly can’t run the White House. So, so we’ve adjusted our schedules to make sure that our girls are first’
If it’s a knock on Hillary for not spending enough time with her own daughter then it’s stupid. Chelsea’s grown and no one’s ever seriously accused Hillary of giving her short shrift. If it’s a knock on her for not being able to keep her man from straying or whatever, then it’s both stupid and exceptionally nasty — the rhetorical equivalent of those Australian lowlifes taunting her at a campaign stop with a cigar. Besides, it’s not going to work: the left’s line on Clinton unto eternity is that private foibles have no bearing whatsoever on managerial competence. If Obama seriously wants them to change course on that, I welcome him trying. It’d be magical to watch that hypocrisy flower.
The one thing that makes me think it might in fact be a shot at Hillary is that, per the left’s value system, she enjoys gender-based absolute moral authority vis-a-vis Obama and Silky such that if they want to get personal with her, they have no choice but to get a woman to do it for them. That’s why it was Elizabeth and not John Edwards who rapped her for not being woman enough. If someone in the Obama camp’s going to go this route, you’d better believe it’s going to be Michelle.
Obama’s already moved quickly to defuse this by denying that the remark was directed at Hillary. Never mind that anyway. Here’s the clip of his wife introducing him at another stop last week; skip ahead to about 5:10 if you’re counting down and enjoy her exceedingly nuanced take on what the war on terror is really all about. The left isn’t holding back anymore.
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No she di’int!
SouthernGent on August 21, 2007 at 12:20 PM
Haha, that’s messed up.
Stankleberry on August 21, 2007 at 12:21 PM
Hahaha. I heard some b.s. from Hillary how she loved to decorate her home around the holidays using red and green construction paper rings . . . [translation: the last time Hillary did anything home oriented was in the 1950s]
Blake on August 21, 2007 at 12:25 PM
Or did Obamas wife put her finger on the Hillary negatives?
EricPWJohnson on August 21, 2007 at 12:26 PM
I’m afraid! Afraid I’m going to have to listen to her for years to come!
Dread Pirate Roberts VI on August 21, 2007 at 12:28 PM
Hm. She accused Democrats of buying support from ministers.
Bryan on August 21, 2007 at 12:29 PM
I get it, if we don’t fear them the bad guys will just go away and leave us alone. Brilliant!
She wants to be first lady so bad she can taste it.
ctmom on August 21, 2007 at 12:35 PM
I still say that during the Olympics were the one Gymnast broke her ankle and AirForce One turned around to congradulate the win . . . was because they forgot Chelsea. I say this because I remember seeing(on TV) Chelsea standing against a wall looking scared with no Secret Service around. The Time, for the Jet to leave and come back against the time she was standing there, didn’t add up. I sooo wish DVRs were around then.
- The Cat
MirCat on August 21, 2007 at 12:35 PM
She’s a much better public speaker that Barak Hussien.
stenwin77 on August 21, 2007 at 12:35 PM
Surely this isn’t new news to her…or anyone else for that matter?
SouthernGent on August 21, 2007 at 12:36 PM
Is that what she’s saying?
Jaibones on August 21, 2007 at 12:37 PM
Right on, girlfriend!
Seriously, though, that Barack has got himself some trophy wife there.
JammieWearingFool on August 21, 2007 at 12:42 PM
She’s the reason Hillary will not choose Barry as her VP running mate.
Brat on August 21, 2007 at 12:42 PM
Brought to you from the people dead set on everyone being a VICTIM of something…
She’s a victim of the administration’s “fearmongering”.
Hate to tell ya, Michelle, but sticking your head in the sand doesn’t make terrorists go away.
You’re tired of being afraid? So, you can just ignore the problem. Good plan. Retard.
tickleddragon on August 21, 2007 at 12:46 PM
A REAL American would have given his wife a 15-second LIP LOCK after that. Who cares who’s around.
DfDeportation on August 21, 2007 at 12:47 PM
Yeah, a BOWLING trophy wife. Sheesh.
tickleddragon on August 21, 2007 at 12:47 PM
The sentiment she expressed is shared by the woman-hive collective in the U.S.
Women are going to hate Hitlery Klinton and not vote for her. She lost the real-man vote as soon as she announced. She’s toast.
Mojave Mark on August 21, 2007 at 12:48 PM
Makes me yearn for the days of Ther-AYYYY-sa. She was great =)
Dash on August 21, 2007 at 12:54 PM
Add another one to the list of incompossible things one must believe to be a democrat: Hoping that middle-easterners can live in peace and form stable governments that are friendly to us is a Republican pipe dream, BUT Republicans are driven by fear of middle-easterners as intractable foes and only hope can fix the problem.
Lawha?
The only people I’m really worried about being intractably locked in their insane mindset right now are the left, who have not only built castles in the air and moved in, but are trying to collect government subsidies to pay for it.
Oh, I forgot - don’t fear people who have different ideas, unless those people are Republicans.
Merovign on August 21, 2007 at 12:54 PM
Dash - this lovely lady may well be the new Teh-RAAAAAAY-zuh!
Merovign on August 21, 2007 at 12:55 PM
Mojave Mark on August 21, 2007 at 12:48 PM
One can only hope.
jdawg on August 21, 2007 at 12:56 PM
She talks a lot about fear. That is the problem - the Democrats don’t believe we are at war. They don’t believe we should be afraid of Al-Queda, just another cut and run scenario. God help us all if the Democrats regain power.
Mark
http://mark24609.blogspot.com/
“Everybody in politics lies, but [the Clintons] do it with such ease, it’s troubling.”
David Geffen - Former Clinton supporter and Hollywood mogul
mark24609 on August 21, 2007 at 12:58 PM
Fear of Terrorist who actually kill people is tiresome, but fear of the Global Warming is ok, I guess in her world?
saltydogg14 on August 21, 2007 at 1:00 PM
Why are all of you blowing this out of context? She isn’t talking about Hillary. I hate when media tries to start crap.
msipes on August 21, 2007 at 1:01 PM
There’s nothing wrong with the statement by itself. It doesn’t mention Hillary Clinton, and (as far as I know) it’s not in response to a question about her. So if it automatically makes you think of Hillary Clinton, why does that make Mrs. Obama “nasty?”
P.S. Just listened to the speech. I can’t believe it; she’s even more of a sanctimonious airhead than her husband is!
logis on August 21, 2007 at 1:11 PM
stop - think - breathe
U 2
do not understand
U R not ready
saint kansas on August 21, 2007 at 1:11 PM
I won’t watch this… I can’t stand this idiot, ever since she revealed what she is all about in February - race. When she says she’s “passionate about this race” in the begining of this vid (where I stopped it), she’s talk about being black, not the election.
Remember this:
http://hotair.com/archives/2007/02/11/video-obamas-wife-plays-race-card-on-60-minutes/
Making comments like that, she’s as much of a disgrace as the shakedown brothers, and I find her to be disgusting because of it. It’s bad enough the only reason anyone is voting for Obama is because he’s black, but her insinuation that bullets discriminate is shameful. First of all, are you more likely as a black person to be shot? Yeah, but by one of your own… but Obama isn’t some brotha from the projects, that’s the difference. He’s a guy who was raised by his white relatives in Hawaii, and now he’s a rich elitist. Pumping gas isn’t putting a target on his back, especially since he’s not hanging out in tha ‘hood.
At any rate, Michelle Obama has become one of these people I can’t stand to hear say anything. I can sense her dishonesty and elitism the second she opens her mouth.
RightWinged on August 21, 2007 at 1:18 PM
She’s also the same woman who played the RACE CARD when she flatly stated on 60 Minutes, “…the realities are, as a black man, Barack can get shot going to the gas station” …jus’ cuz he be black. Nevermind that not-so-long-ago before her 60 Minutes appearence, two black men were sniping and killing white people at gas stations, warehouse stores, etc.
She could very easily become the death knell of his campaign for POTUS, but he might make a nice gift delivery boy as VPOTUS no matter how much screeching she does.
She has a fat loud mouth, and that inner-city indignant self-entitlement attitude of some black women to go with it. I’m waiting for the press conference where she plants her fists on her hips, does the barn owl head bob, and quips some sarcastic comment straight from da hood.
SilverStar830 on August 21, 2007 at 1:21 PM
We’re on the same page more or less, but I type too slow ;)
SilverStar830 on August 21, 2007 at 1:22 PM
Half of the video is all I could stand. Based on the half I watched, I see that Ms. Obama is nearly as grace-challenged as Hillary.
Maxx on August 21, 2007 at 1:22 PM
Until the old Teh-RAAAAAAAAEEEEEEEYYYYYY-zah comes back riding a horse wielding a sword screaming “There can be only one!” and they try to chop each others heads off.
How can you not love politics? ;)
Dash on August 21, 2007 at 1:25 PM
Michelle Obama has just issued a response to your comment SilverStar830:
RightWinged on August 21, 2007 at 1:26 PM
Is she Cynthia McKinney’s sista?
DfDeportation on August 21, 2007 at 1:27 PM
Liberalism is subjectivism.
When she talked about “fear,” she talked about fear of having her feelings hurt. To liberals, that’s what reality is.
It’s not terrorism that makes liberals afraid. The effects of terrorism are very rarely shown on network TV - so it isn’t “real” to liberals. But we conservatives keep talking about terrorism all the time, and THAT is what makes liberals afraid. If we conservatives would just shut up, then liberals would no longer be afraid; ergo, from a purely subjective point of view, the problem would be “solved.”
logis on August 21, 2007 at 1:28 PM
i AM all that and a bag of chips!
SilverStar830 on August 21, 2007 at 1:29 PM
By the way, I guess there is some news value to this Chocolate Rain pouring down on Hillary… Obama is the VP candidate, we already know that, and have for 6 months or so now. Hillary likely still can’t win because her “definitely won’t vote for” numbers are so horrible, but having Obama bring in all the college kids who think they’re proving something by voting for a black guy is the one chance she has… It seems like they’re going to have a tough time making it work if they keep trading barbs like this… however, I suppose when the time comes, the media will be completely silent, instead of busting them for the obvious hypocrisy (”Mrs. Clinton, how can you support him as VP when you said he’s too inexperienced to be President?”, etc.) The media will be told to get on board when that time comes, so I suppose all this fighting will be forgotten.
RightWinged on August 21, 2007 at 1:29 PM
Fa shizzle.
RightWinged on August 21, 2007 at 1:30 PM
Actually, the first rival candidate the family comment made me think of (negatively) was Rudy. I have no idea if she had Rudy in mind when she said it, but Rudy seems to have the most messed up family in the race right now. I like Rudy, but his problematic marriages, kids, and family situation in general speak poorly of his character to me. I’m a family/kids-first person, and I can’t help relating a candidate’s attitude toward family to his or her character and potential leadership skills and style. I can overlook it if I feel a person will be a strong leader in every other way, but I can’t deny that it’s a psychological factor for me. I have more respect for a candidate with what seems to be a solid, long-term, loving and committed marriage and a strong relationship with his or her kids than one without. (All that said, I have to admit that Newt will be at the top of my favorite candidates list if he decides to run. Guess that makes me a hypocrite, huh? Eh, I just said it’s a factor for me, not a deal-breaker.)
The second candidate it made me think of was John Edwards and how he put his campaign above his wife’s health and his young children’s needs (What if they lose their mom while he’s in the White House, which would be highly likely? They’d be virtually orphans.)
Regarding Michelle Obama as a public speaker: Despite myself, I have to admit that I think she’s impressive, and that she’s an asset to Barack’s campaign.
aero on August 21, 2007 at 1:32 PM
Supporters have been attacking Obama for going negative. So now I guess the campaign will use his wife to do it
More signs that obama is getting desperate
William Amos on August 21, 2007 at 1:34 PM
Fear? The only fear I have is this woman as First ‘Lady’.
What a contrast to our Laura!!
dbdiva on August 21, 2007 at 1:38 PM
I hope you don’t really believe that.
12thman on August 21, 2007 at 1:38 PM
I think its moe that he is the youngest person in the race not that he is black
If this was Feingold running we would see the same kind of reaction from the dems. They more more fixated on his youth than his abilities.
Can be enough however. Kennedy beat nixion when people watched the debates on TV but on the radio people said that Nixon did better than Kennedy.
Of course Kennedy is a bit more coherent than Obama
William Amos on August 21, 2007 at 1:43 PM
BTW, when I said that I think Michelle Obama is impressive, I did not mean that I agree with anything she said. I just mean that I think her demeanor and delivery style is highly effective for the intended audience, and I think she will find a great deal of success with this approach. She got her crowd whipped up and excited about Barack, and that’s more than most of the spouses on either side seem able to do at this point. Bill comes the closest, but the crowds are excited to see HIM, not his wife the actual candidate. Elizabeth Edwards is playing attack-dog, and I haven’t heard a positive peep out of any of the Republican spouses so far, except Ann Romney, and the press isn’t giving her air time. Rudy’s practically having to hide Judith and his kids (what I’ve heard from Judith has not impressed me), and Fred and Jeri haven’t come out of the gates yet. But the media is already setting it up so that Jeri will have to fight an uphill battle to carve her own positive public image out of all the preconceived notions of being either a trophy wife child bimbo or a scheming, pushy behind-the-scenes political wife.
aero on August 21, 2007 at 1:43 PM
The democrats sure know how to pick em. Hilary is the most disliked woman in America and Barry’s wife is jealous and doing her best to overtake her. This woman will not be told to shut up so if he is the candidate or even the vp candidate America will hear from her for 6 months what a hateful dark place America is.
peacenprosperity on August 21, 2007 at 1:44 PM
Wow… Maybe I’m being a bit sensitive because of something I witnessed this weekend but it seems like the stereotypes you and RW are heaping on her are a bit overboard.
12thman on August 21, 2007 at 1:44 PM
That would be “raised by his white immediate family because his black father headed back to Afica when he didn’t need his white mother any more.”
peacenprosperity on August 21, 2007 at 1:46 PM
Was she running in a 5K that day? She has a super-tight spandex top on, right?
nottakingsides on August 21, 2007 at 1:48 PM
Again its all relate to the youth culture. In fact someone just did a rap song about “B-Rock”
I dont take Obama’s use of that culture as being more black to fit in (though its quite unfair to ask Hillary if she is “Black” wnough and let Obama slide on it)
William Amos on August 21, 2007 at 1:49 PM
which would make him white, instead of black.
ackrite55 on August 21, 2007 at 1:54 PM
Oooo, burn.
NeoConNews on August 21, 2007 at 1:55 PM
Obama can say truthfully, well… I’m black AND I’m white.
If Mrs. O. doesn’t like fear why does she go to a church with a racsist separatist statement of faith?
Family values?!?! Which family value encompasses destroying human life in the name of quality of life?
All she’s doing is ensuring her husband is NOT the V.P. nominee and that’s about it. C’mon Mrs O., your man could be part of the first pure affirmative action ticket ever in the U.S.
Mojave Mark on August 21, 2007 at 2:12 PM
Of course I believe that, because it’s true. Please give me one reason why they’re voting for him otherwise? Let me guess, “hope”, right? That’s all Obamaites can ever say.
RightWinged on August 21, 2007 at 2:13 PM
Laughter…tears…buckled knees
Ochlan on August 21, 2007 at 2:28 PM
Read what you want, she just said to take care of the family. If Hillary and her defenders thinks she is talking about her, than they are being too defensive.
I have no problem with a woman standing up and saying taking care of family is priority. By all indications, Obama and his wife take that part of their lives seriously…more people should.
She should stick with that theme, that’s about all she has to offer.
right2bright on August 21, 2007 at 2:30 PM
Obama as veep? To the Hildabeast? I’m not seeing it…de black man playin’ second fiddle to post-menopausal whitey?
There ain’t enough crack in Harlem to make the black vote swallow _that_
Ochlan on August 21, 2007 at 2:31 PM
Neither Obama nor Hillary would take the risk of naming another minority to the ticket. The question is other than Kuchinvich is there any dem that would be second fiddle to them ?
Or will the go outside of the beltway ?
William Amos on August 21, 2007 at 2:40 PM
RightWinged, believe it or not, some people still vote the issues. Yes, even people who are voting for the black guy.
I go to a predominantly black church. The level of support for Barrack (around 75%) vs. the support for Sharpton (around 5%) on his last run is quite telling. There must be something more than blackness at play since Shaprton is at least 2 shades darker than Obama.
I’m not foolish enough to believe is race isn’t a factor (it clearly is, as is everyone else’s race and sex), I just don’t believe color is the only story here.
12thman on August 21, 2007 at 2:43 PM
…
Either I’ve lost my sense of humor or this thread is going downhill fast.
12thman on August 21, 2007 at 2:51 PM
She damn sure knows how to wag that long-ass finger, and more importantly, she is MANLY.
I know who wears the pants in that family, she looks like Cynthia McKinney’s head on Tiger Woods body.
Alden Pyle on August 21, 2007 at 2:57 PM
I’m uncomfortable with the negative black stereotypes being thrown around, too, and I’m white. No wonder black voters tend to view white conservatives with distrust–there’s ample evidence right here to support the idea that many conservatives are prejudiced jerks.
aero on August 21, 2007 at 3:06 PM
It’s telling that you didn’t name one of these “issues” one might support Obama for.
You want to know the difference between Sharpton and Obama? For starters, Sharpton is a cartoon character, and was never a serious candidate.
But the real difference, is the difference in Huckabee and Giuliani. The MSM decides who our few choices are, and that’s the way it is. They decided long ago that this race is Giuliani/Romney/McCain/*Fred vs. Hillary/Obama/Edwards. All others are really just wasting everyone’s time and money, because the MSM won’t give them the exposure they need to actually be serious candidates. In 2004, the same thing happened, and Sharpton, being the clown he is, was not part of the group the MSM gave Democrats to choose from. They gave them Dean/Kerry/Edwards.
Sharpton was no different than Kucinich, or Ron Paul, etc. just a total ass who wanted some attention, and didn’t even deserve a glance by the MSM. Obama is actually in the same position (a Washington politician) as the people he’s running against, not just some nut brining attention to his group. But when you look at him, there’s nothing there but an empty suit, yet he’s treated as if he’s some sort of savior, which is why everyone around here jokingly acts as if he’s the Messiah. But he’s not made a name for himself for doing anything noteworthy. He’s just another Democrat, making entitlement promises and tax hike promises.
But because he’s black, you’ve got a bunch of (primarily college aged) people who think that voting for him proves how open minded they are, even if no one else cares. You should see his supporters at YouTube, you ask them what the hell he offers and “hope” is about the best they can come up with. Yes, we get it retards, your parents bought you his book at Costco and that word is in the title… and after your Freshman political science class, you feel sooooo engaged that you must make your voice heard.
RightWinged on August 21, 2007 at 3:14 PM
I will refrain from my Imus comment.
I closed my eyes, I listened, I heard Hillary, in 93
Kini on August 21, 2007 at 3:14 PM
I think its unfair to smear us all with a broad brush
Again its not like Hillary and/or Obama havent pandered to the African America community. They open themselves up to criticism when they try to be “more black”
William Amos on August 21, 2007 at 3:19 PM
Wow, I apparently disagree with almost everyone on this thread about Michelle Obama. I think she comes across as strong but still feminine. She seems intelligent, well-educated, and a family-centered mother who supports her husband’s career. Though the look she chose for this event is somewhat severe–hair pulled back and a very plain black shirt with little make-up–the tight shirt shows off her feminine shape without being overtly “sexy,” and the hair pulled back highlights a good facial structure. She’s attractive but not overly made up, which makes her come across as “real,” put-together, and a straight-shooter. She speaks forcefully, but doesn’t strike me as masculine as a result. I’m a traditionalist woman, so I’m no raving feminist who enjoys a manly woman beating the men at their own game or whatever nonsense they spout. But I do like seeing a confident, intelligent woman in action–like Michelle Malkin.
That said, I have to reiterate that I don’t agree with a thing Michelle Obama says, and I think her husband would be completely wrong for this country as POTUS. But I think it’s petty and dishonest to write her off with black stereotypes or insulting descriptions of her appearance or gestures when in fact she’s apparently highly effective in her role as a candidate’s spouse. Moreover, it might be a tactical mistake to discount her potential positive impact on her husband’s campaign. I wish we had such a forceful and talented public speaker among the spouses on our side. Maybe Jeri Thompson or Callista Gingrich will rise to that role.
aero on August 21, 2007 at 3:21 PM
Liberals seem to be obsessed with fear. They accuse everyone they don’t agree with of being driven by irrational fear.
The war in Iraq is one way. Notice how Michelle Obama blames it on fear of people that look different fom us. It couldn’t possibly be about terrorism, could it? Michael Moore gives a motive of fear behind just about every major event in America’s history in this disgusting part of his “documentary”, Bowling for Columbine. Look at the words they’ve come up with: homophobia and islamophobia. In both cases they equate differing opinions of others with irrational fear.
Emilie H. on August 21, 2007 at 3:24 PM
oh what a phony…loves the sound of her voice and that “oh I’m so sincere” facial expression…love to see what happens if someone disagrees.
So, what’s their best-case scenario…if Obama wins we get him for eight years then she runs and we’re stuck with her for another eight? Total 16 years…
Bye-Bye Social Security (and that’s the least of it.)
max1 on August 21, 2007 at 3:25 PM
One need only read this thread to figure out why more blacks don’t vote Republican. And what’s best is people like RightWinged will go “I don’t get it.”
Nonfactor on August 21, 2007 at 3:25 PM
I didn’t mean to say that everyone is doing it–clearly the majority of us are not spouting racial stereotypes. My point is that it only takes a few such comments to poison the entire well and give the impression to a casual observer that “all” conservatives are the racist jerks they expect us to be. Don’t we sometimes assume that the nutcases at HuffPo and dKos represent the entire left when they make outrageous posts and comments that stun us with their stupidity?
I guess I was just trying to ask people to think about the impact of their comments. What we say here and at other conservative blogs reflects on all of us as a group, for better or for worse. It’s hard enough to fight the expectation that we conservatives are all racists, homophobes, sexists, etc. without people reinforcing it in the comments of our blogs.
aero on August 21, 2007 at 3:27 PM
William, I’m not smearing “us all” with a broad brush. I am part of “us all”. I have “known” Bryan as a blogger (we used to post links to each other’s sites) since 2002. I am part of this community.
I am talking about specific comments from specific people.
RW,
It’s really alot less telling than you’re imagining. I’m certain many Barack supporters jumped on from hearing him speak at the last Democratic National Convention, many more from the ideas in his book and others from the issues his list on his site.
The characatures that you guys are creating are dirty, ugly and most important, dead wrong.
12thman on August 21, 2007 at 3:28 PM
Projection.
Two questions, then:
Bill, Feingold did want to run for President. No one else agreed.
msipes, you think people here are offended and supporting Hillary? I don’t think anyone here could care less about Hillary, and Allah started this off mentioning that he didn’t think Obama was talking about her. I don’t either.
What I am hearing is a referendum on Michelle Obama, big-mouthed leftist a la Barbara Lee, Cynthia McKinney, Sheila Jackson-Lee, and Maxine Waters. She plays the race issue perfectly: when you say everything is about race, and then people say they don’t like you — it must be because of race.
It seems that she is generally disliked here.
Jaibones on August 21, 2007 at 3:29 PM
That’s really not what feminism is about. Although I agree with almost everything else you said.
Nonfactor on August 21, 2007 at 3:29 PM
Has she been given the okay by Imus?
TheSitRep on August 21, 2007 at 3:43 PM
I might… if I knew what “it” was… what am I going to say you don’t get?
RightWinged on August 21, 2007 at 3:47 PM
OH NO! You’ve ruined my reputation on this site forever by agreeing with me, Nonfactor! ;-)
aero on August 21, 2007 at 3:48 PM
She came across much better here than she did on the interview with ??? posted here a month or two ago.
mikeyboss on August 21, 2007 at 3:52 PM
Once again, you’ve yet to give an example of one of these issues, that supposedly would make him any different than his opponents.
And it’s EXTREMELY telling that you initially played the Al Sharpton card to prove he’s more than a black empty suit, and I thoroughly dissected that. It would seem you agree with my assessment on that front, and I don’t see how you couldn’t, it’s not really opinion (regarding Sharpton being a joke, etc.), but it’s sad that you just brush it off and act as if our exchange never took place.
Anyway, these “you guys” (obviously including me) are saying
“dirty” and “ugly” things… care to give an example?
RightWinged on August 21, 2007 at 3:53 PM
Strong yes, feminine…I don’t think so; she is a Wookie, and a fashion dunce to boot. Who would wear spandex to a political rally? Yeah, I can’t wait to see what she’d do to the Oval office. She must be getting fashion tips from Lil Kim or wearing the much admired *looter Line* from the New Orleans Fashion District.
She looks like the Wayans brother who dressed as a girl in the movie White Chicks.
Alden Pyle on August 21, 2007 at 3:54 PM
Oh and by the way, I forgot to add… your dishonesty never ceases to amaze. Well, it’s either dishonesty or idiocy, I’ll let you pick. Do you realize the examples we could give (Condi’s snake eyes, Lieberman blackface, Steele, etc. etc. etc. Dean’s comments, Belafonte’s comments, etc. etc. etc. Talking “black” to black crowds.) I’m not sure how you can compare ANY of that, to a few people mocking a woman who herself plays the race card in the most shameful ways.
RightWinged on August 21, 2007 at 3:56 PM
FWIW, I don’t think it’s necessary to critique how womanly or fashion conscious she is, and it should be noted that my comments haven’t had anything to do with any of that.
RightWinged on August 21, 2007 at 3:57 PM
Uhm, I gave you a link to a web site full of issues. How many examples do you want me to give for why other people (i.e. not me) are voting for Barrack?
Or are you saying that all Democrats are precisely identicle except Barrack who is black?
There’s nothing mysterious about the fact that I missed a small point in your reply. If you check this thread you’ll see I’ve been sorta preoccupied over there.
lol, that’s as close to “I don’t get it” as you can get without saying “I don’t get it”. I’ll humor your request and re-quote some examples for you.
12thman on August 21, 2007 at 4:05 PM
I love it. This campaign is finally getting interesting.
SoulGlo on August 21, 2007 at 4:06 PM
I think appearance is fair game. Politics is ALL about appearance.
If Laura Bush introduced GWB while wearing **cough, cough** spandex, methinks a few eyebrows would raise, but I guess we should ignore it when Barak Hussein Obama’s wife squeezes into her daughter’s ballet outfit for fear of making the Messiah squirm?
Can anyone say the Emperor’s New Clothes?
Alden Pyle on August 21, 2007 at 4:06 PM
Don’t forget “de black man playin’ second fiddle to post-menopausal whitey,” “there ain’t enough crack in Harlem” and “Looter Line at the New Orleans Fashion District.”
aero on August 21, 2007 at 4:14 PM
The pompous princess bows before the Messiah. Give me a break honey, he’s a first term senator with virtually no record to speak of. We should all fear the possibility of this feel good, fast talking, slow-thinking empty suit getting elected to any higher office. Now that’s something to be afraid of.
fogw on August 21, 2007 at 4:25 PM
I don’t agree with what you say, that makes you…raaaaacist!….Liberal Logic.
Alden Pyle on August 21, 2007 at 4:28 PM
There was a time, once, when the wives of Presidential candidates had a certain class about them when they were stumping for their spouse. They didn’t get all fired up, pumping their fists and waving their fingers at the crowds, drunk with righteous indignation and speaking about self-entitlements. They spoke eloquently, and meaningfully, about things that pretty much everyone could wrap their heads around. They were more poignant, and a lot less pointed. They left the blame game for their candidate husbands, whose business it really is.
Michelle Obama is high strung. She seems like she’s high maintenance too. But most obvious of all, she’s high drama. She also makes it sound like she is sacrificing sooo much, and she plays the sympathy card with a vengeance for that fact. But the race card, that’s the trump card. You know, no blacks are safe in public, especially at the gas station. I mean, what possesses a woman who is married to a man running for the most powerful position on Earth to insinuate such things and inject one race, her race, when you’re talking about an entire nation’s problems on a nationally syndicated TV news show? It’s a ludicrous statement, and it’s all about making up some bullpucky to hook an audience into believing that the Obamassiah will somehow make it less likely a black man will get shot getting gas for his car. Not everyone, just black men. I think she’d be a great guest on Jerry Springer.
Everytime she speaks in public, everytime I have ever been made aware of, she is too forceful in her tones and too righteous in her condemnation of everything and everyone. That is, everyone except her dear old husband. But at least she’s willing to make the ultimate sacrifice, her husband. Because, you know, he’ll rid the entire world of fear. All
heshehe has to do is figure out how to make the bearded suicidal maniacs that create that world-wide fear get on board with the living messiah. Afterall, who the hell’s Mohammad when he’s up against a living messiah?She’s more Theresa Heinz Kerry in black face than she is a First Lady.
SilverStar830 on August 21, 2007 at 4:32 PM
What, are you saying we shouldn’t have the term delivery boy because it might offend black men? What about paper boy? Bat boy? (both the MLB and the Weekly World News variety)
Circus announcers must now say ‘Ladies and gentlemen, underage males and girls…?’
Oh boy, now I’ve done it.
James on August 21, 2007 at 4:32 PM
SilverStar830 on August 21, 2007 at 4:32 PM
Well said.
Alden Pyle on August 21, 2007 at 4:37 PM
Be sure to molly-coddle blacks, ’tis the only path to sainthood. Be more offended than thou, and mention that you’re white, by the way, not that there’s anything wrong with that.
Sleep soundly aero, you have sufficiently prostrated yourself…negroid blessings be upon you.
Ochlan on August 21, 2007 at 4:37 PM
Ugh. I rest my case.
aero on August 21, 2007 at 4:39 PM
Thanks aero, I didn’t go through all the posts again. I figured they were pretty obvious.
There is nothing wrong with the word boy (obviously). But if you’re in the process of degrading black people by placing stereotype on them which don’t fit their personality, boy takes on a different meaning.
Do you not understand the role of context in language?
12thman on August 21, 2007 at 4:41 PM
The only quote that was mine out of those listed by 12thman was the one about people only voting for Obama because he’s black. How is my, well founded, opinion “ugly” or “dirty”. Even if you don’t accept it, what’s “ugly” or “dirty” about it?
Again, Obama can list all the “issues” he wants on his page, but those are just general talking points and “issues” everyone largely supports. It’s like when these Dems give speeches that they’re going to “fix” health car, education, intelligence, etc. There’s no plan to do it, and even when they come up with what can be considered a plan, if history teaches us anything, it’s still just campaign promises. You’ve got to say something.
But you still haven’t explained why one would vote for Obama, other than the fact that he’s black. You’ve said people vote on issues, yet you’ve shown no evidence that his supporters are really going any deeper than his skin color.
I’m not claiming I can read their minds either, just offering my opinion, but your Al Sharpton comparison only bolstered my case. Yeah, people didn’t rush to Sharpton’s side because he was black, but that’s because he was never a serious candidate and the media never made him in to one after he got in to the race. The media only offered Dean/Kerry/Edwards to the public in 2004, just as we’re only offered Rudy/Mitt/
McCain/*Fred now. I think most of us would be much happier with one of the less mainstream candidates, but they don’t get the media exposure, because the media has already decided who they’ll let us choose from. The media has done the news coverage version of giving Obama a Lewinsky, and made him in to a true candidate. Why not Dodd? Why not Kucinich? Kucinich, stupid as he is, stands out from the crowd, certainly much more than Obama. Obama, outside of being a black man, is your stereotypical Democrat politician. He’s the cookie cutter image, from policy to talking points, to being “likable” rather than substantive.Again, you tried to use Sharpton as an example of people not running to vote for a black candidate because he’s black, and I’ve debunked that comparison by explaining that he was never a real candidate the way Obama is. But you’ve still yet to hear anyone say why Obama over “insert Democrat candidate here”, and that’s simply because he’s black. He’s the media darling because he’s black, and the media and everyone who votes for him are proving just how progressive they are and how “far we’ve come since the days of slavery”. It’s all that “it’s time for a black/woman president” BS that Dems always engage in, rather than “it’s time for the best candidate”.
RightWinged on August 21, 2007 at 5:01 PM
I just threw up a little in my mouth.
Viper1 on August 21, 2007 at 5:14 PM
Allah,
You missed the best nugget in the video starts at 2:30 left: “he was right because he’s special”
clghitis on August 21, 2007 at 5:15 PM
I guess that gives you the right to demand others prove you wrong, right? There’s a thing called “burden of proof,” try it. The thing is, you don’t get it, and by the looks of the posts in this thread you’ll never get it.
Nonfactor on August 21, 2007 at 5:18 PM
Barack Obama is this years Jimmy Carter. Taking advantage of a rough period in our history to by spouting platitudes and bumper stickers and hoping to fool enough people. This guy gets in office, make that any of the dems get in office, the jihadists will go into overdrive and our enemies will be on the march. Our enemies are saying it right out loud.
Not that any of the republican candidates have given me any great comfort.
peacenprosperity on August 21, 2007 at 5:23 PM
Sorry, here’s the link.
peacenprosperity on August 21, 2007 at 5:24 PM
Oops, didn’t work again.Maybe this time.
peacenprosperity on August 21, 2007 at 5:25 PM
I think I could get excited about a single (unmarried) candidate.
RushBaby on August 21, 2007 at 5:27 PM
Retarded (and predictable) as ever… I’m demanding that 12thman even attempt to defend his claim. He may not agree with me, but at least I’m making a case. He’s not trying to, which is annoying. I left the opening for you to make this comment, because I love being right about how predictable and dishonest you clowns consistently are.
Chain of events - I offered my opinion, he attempted to claim I was wrong (without support for HIS CLAIM that Obama supporters are deeper than his skin color), I support my claim (agree with me or not) further using his own argument about Sharpton not being a viable candidate simply because of his skin, he (12thman) leaves it at “go read the issues at Obama’s page”… Go read the issues at anyone’s page, this is cookie cutter presidential candidate stuff. AS I SAID I’m simply offering my opinion, with what I believe to be the supporting facts… I’m not demanding he prove me wrong, I’m demanding he prove himself right. He didn’t just say I’m wrong, and ask me to show my evidence. He made his own claim, and didn’t support it. You already knew that, but as a troll, you’re required to pull this crap.
BTW, no elabortion on this?
RightWinged on August 21, 2007 at 5:30 PM
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