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	<title>Comments on: Video: Rough cut clip from a documentary about the USS Forrestal fire</title>
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		<title>By: Corky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Corky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 15:23:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The film I refered to is called &quot;Situation Critical: The USS Forrestal.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The film I refered to is called &#8220;Situation Critical: The USS Forrestal.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Corky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Corky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 14:58:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I retired from active duty in 1996 after 24 years in the world&#039;s finest and most powerful Navy.  I was embarked in FORRESTAL (considered the first of the &quot;super carriers&quot; with Commander Carrier Group SIX back in 1978.  Stories of the accident and subsequent fire were still resounding a full 11 years after the fire.  &quot;Sailors to the End&quot; is a very detailed description of what happened and why; some Aviation Ordinance types took some shortcuts in the preparation and arming of missiles being mounted on aircraft preparing to sortie over North Vietname.  The film many posters have already mentioned - &quot;Trial by Fire&quot; was required viewing at recruit training and at Damage Control training centers (and may still be).  I still remember that part of the film where you could see a flight deck Chief Petty Officer running towards the conflagration armed with a Purple K dry chemical fire extinguisher just before the first WWII-era 1,000 pound bomb exploded.  He died instantly.
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There&#039;s already a documentary available, although I can&#039;t recall its title.  It&#039;s on VHS.  It&#039;s extremely sobering and retells many stories of true heroism - like one sailor manning after steering who remained at his post and complied with orders from the bridge with the full knowledge that he&#039;d soon be dead.  I still get goosebumps when I think how so many of those brave shipmates paid the ultimate sacrifice to save the ship.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I retired from active duty in 1996 after 24 years in the world&#8217;s finest and most powerful Navy.  I was embarked in FORRESTAL (considered the first of the &#8220;super carriers&#8221; with Commander Carrier Group SIX back in 1978.  Stories of the accident and subsequent fire were still resounding a full 11 years after the fire.  &#8220;Sailors to the End&#8221; is a very detailed description of what happened and why; some Aviation Ordinance types took some shortcuts in the preparation and arming of missiles being mounted on aircraft preparing to sortie over North Vietname.  The film many posters have already mentioned &#8211; &#8220;Trial by Fire&#8221; was required viewing at recruit training and at Damage Control training centers (and may still be).  I still remember that part of the film where you could see a flight deck Chief Petty Officer running towards the conflagration armed with a Purple K dry chemical fire extinguisher just before the first WWII-era 1,000 pound bomb exploded.  He died instantly.<br />
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There&#8217;s already a documentary available, although I can&#8217;t recall its title.  It&#8217;s on VHS.  It&#8217;s extremely sobering and retells many stories of true heroism &#8211; like one sailor manning after steering who remained at his post and complied with orders from the bridge with the full knowledge that he&#8217;d soon be dead.  I still get goosebumps when I think how so many of those brave shipmates paid the ultimate sacrifice to save the ship.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick1</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 13:25:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My Dad sereved on the Forrestal, and lived to tell about it...Lucky for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My Dad sereved on the Forrestal, and lived to tell about it&#8230;Lucky for me.</p>
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		<title>By: rightside</title>
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		<dc:creator>rightside</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 12:20:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We were made to watch &quot;trial by fire&quot; when I was in boot camp in the early 80&#039;s. Reinforces the point that every sailor is a firefighter first. 

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Just before I retired, we had a major fuel oil leak in one of our engine rooms. The entire ship did exactly what it had to do to prevent a total disaster, and that is due to the constant training. The damage control and firefighting techniques used today, are from lessons learned from that specific fire.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We were made to watch &#8220;trial by fire&#8221; when I was in boot camp in the early 80&#8242;s. Reinforces the point that every sailor is a firefighter first. </p>
<p>.<br />
Just before I retired, we had a major fuel oil leak in one of our engine rooms. The entire ship did exactly what it had to do to prevent a total disaster, and that is due to the constant training. The damage control and firefighting techniques used today, are from lessons learned from that specific fire.</p>
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		<title>By: fmsguy</title>
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		<dc:creator>fmsguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 11:40:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The below link is from the USN training film.  I viewed it as a young sailor in the early 70&#039;s during fire fighting training and then showed it to many, many other young sailors as an instructor.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chuiyXQKw3I  

I think we need to realize that US Military training is &quot;that good&quot;.  In the less distant past, the USS Samuel B. Roberts hit a mine in the Persian Gulf that should have sunk her... but for her damage control team&#039;s exceptional inability to give up.  

When the USS Stark was hit by a missile, the same type missile which put a like British ship underwater, the damage control efforts of the crew were the ONLY reason the ship survived to be repaired and placed back in service.

I salute our military today and thank them for continuing to serve a country I proudly served for almost 30 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The below link is from the USN training film.  I viewed it as a young sailor in the early 70&#8242;s during fire fighting training and then showed it to many, many other young sailors as an instructor.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chuiyXQKw3I" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chuiyXQKw3I</a>  </p>
<p>I think we need to realize that US Military training is &#8220;that good&#8221;.  In the less distant past, the USS Samuel B. Roberts hit a mine in the Persian Gulf that should have sunk her&#8230; but for her damage control team&#8217;s exceptional inability to give up.  </p>
<p>When the USS Stark was hit by a missile, the same type missile which put a like British ship underwater, the damage control efforts of the crew were the ONLY reason the ship survived to be repaired and placed back in service.</p>
<p>I salute our military today and thank them for continuing to serve a country I proudly served for almost 30 years.</p>
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		<title>By: Rode Werk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rode Werk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 06:51:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The fire on the Forrestal was a disaster. While the men who fought and died saving the ship were courageous, the fire was an accident waiting to happen. The training film many sailors see in boot camp and different classes is incredibly good and blunt.

During that era most damage control funds were passed on to maintenance and other uses, much of the equipment was in disrepair. The training at the time was woefully lacking to be polite about it. The Forrestal, Oriskiny, and Enterprise fires were part of a chain of disasters that drove the Navy to increase training, and begin a multi-decades long upgrade in material.

The Navy new the problems existed long before the fires occured, and most captains were warned about the problems well before these disasters happened.

Events like the fire on the Forrestal need to be retold continuously or the lessons we learned from them will be forgotten until another disaster occurs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fire on the Forrestal was a disaster. While the men who fought and died saving the ship were courageous, the fire was an accident waiting to happen. The training film many sailors see in boot camp and different classes is incredibly good and blunt.</p>
<p>During that era most damage control funds were passed on to maintenance and other uses, much of the equipment was in disrepair. The training at the time was woefully lacking to be polite about it. The Forrestal, Oriskiny, and Enterprise fires were part of a chain of disasters that drove the Navy to increase training, and begin a multi-decades long upgrade in material.</p>
<p>The Navy new the problems existed long before the fires occured, and most captains were warned about the problems well before these disasters happened.</p>
<p>Events like the fire on the Forrestal need to be retold continuously or the lessons we learned from them will be forgotten until another disaster occurs.</p>
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		<title>By: Griz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Griz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 03:50:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.</p>
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		<title>By: The Ugly American</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Ugly American</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 03:40:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;We watched that foottage many times for training purposes while I was in the Navy...&lt;/blockquote&gt;


Yep.

It was required viewing when I went through basic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>We watched that foottage many times for training purposes while I was in the Navy&#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p>Yep.</p>
<p>It was required viewing when I went through basic.</p>
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		<title>By: Yakko77</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yakko77</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 03:14:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On a side note, my grandfather served in the Navy during WWII.  He was on the USS Stanly DD-478.  The story of his ship was shown on the History Channel show &quot;Dogfights&quot; and showed the suicide attack by 2 suicide rockets (&quot;Baka&quot; bombs), one of which hit but thankfully did little damage as it went clean through the ship and didn&#039;t explode and the second one just missed them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On a side note, my grandfather served in the Navy during WWII.  He was on the USS Stanly DD-478.  The story of his ship was shown on the History Channel show &#8220;Dogfights&#8221; and showed the suicide attack by 2 suicide rockets (&#8220;Baka&#8221; bombs), one of which hit but thankfully did little damage as it went clean through the ship and didn&#8217;t explode and the second one just missed them.</p>
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		<title>By: Jaibones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jaibones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 02:54:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow.  My Dad, father-in-law, and three uncles served in the Pacific fleet, and I can only imagine this chaos.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.  My Dad, father-in-law, and three uncles served in the Pacific fleet, and I can only imagine this chaos.</p>
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		<title>By: Yakko77</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yakko77</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 02:28:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;My son serves as a DC on a destroyer in the gulf.

It takes a special breed for that job. Thanks for serving.

csdeven on August 20, 2007 at 9:32 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Thank you.  Tell your son there are lots of us back home who appreciate and are thankful for his service.

*salutes*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>My son serves as a DC on a destroyer in the gulf.</p>
<p>It takes a special breed for that job. Thanks for serving.</p>
<p>csdeven on August 20, 2007 at 9:32 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Thank you.  Tell your son there are lots of us back home who appreciate and are thankful for his service.</p>
<p>*salutes*</p>
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		<title>By: Labamigo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Labamigo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 02:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Meanwhile, John &quot;Blood &amp; Guts&quot; Kerry was getting 3 Purple Hearts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meanwhile, John &#8220;Blood &amp; Guts&#8221; Kerry was getting 3 Purple Hearts.</p>
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		<title>By: Maxx</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maxx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 01:52:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My uncle Larry was on the Forrestal when it happened (no kidding). I was just a little kid but I remember it quite well. We heard of the accident on the news and of course the whole family was very concerned. It took two days to find out he was OK. He was on night shift and asleep in his bunk a couple of decks below and aft of the accident. He was lucky, lots of others were not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My uncle Larry was on the Forrestal when it happened (no kidding). I was just a little kid but I remember it quite well. We heard of the accident on the news and of course the whole family was very concerned. It took two days to find out he was OK. He was on night shift and asleep in his bunk a couple of decks below and aft of the accident. He was lucky, lots of others were not.</p>
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		<title>By: jaybird</title>
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		<dc:creator>jaybird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 01:39:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah I have seen this video a few times. The first time was in Boot Camp. Like someone above stated The Navy learned some hards lessons after that fire.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah I have seen this video a few times. The first time was in Boot Camp. Like someone above stated The Navy learned some hards lessons after that fire.</p>
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		<title>By: csdeven</title>
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		<dc:creator>csdeven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 01:32:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Yakko77 on August 20, 2007 at 7:58 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

My son serves as a DC on a destroyer in the gulf.


It takes a special breed for that job. Thanks for serving.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Yakko77 on August 20, 2007 at 7:58 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>My son serves as a DC on a destroyer in the gulf.</p>
<p>It takes a special breed for that job. Thanks for serving.</p>
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		<title>By: csdeven</title>
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		<dc:creator>csdeven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 01:29:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought it was McCains first flight off the Oriskany when he was shot down?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought it was McCains first flight off the Oriskany when he was shot down?</p>
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		<title>By: Rusty Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rusty Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 00:43:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Additional information:

Andrew Toppan at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.hazegray.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Haze Gray and Underway&lt;/a&gt; has a short &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.hazegray.org/navhist/carriers/fires/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;photoessay&lt;/a&gt; on the three Vietnam-era carrier fires.

Other photos available at the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.history.navy.mil/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;U. S. Naval Historical Center&lt;/a&gt;:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://tinyurl.com/k66o9&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Oriskany&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://tinyurl.com/2d5r9u&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Forrestal&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Additional information:</p>
<p>Andrew Toppan at <a href="http://www.hazegray.org/" rel="nofollow">Haze Gray and Underway</a> has a short <a href="http://www.hazegray.org/navhist/carriers/fires/" rel="nofollow">photoessay</a> on the three Vietnam-era carrier fires.</p>
<p>Other photos available at the <a href="http://www.history.navy.mil/" rel="nofollow">U. S. Naval Historical Center</a>:</p>
<p><a href="http://tinyurl.com/k66o9" rel="nofollow">Oriskany</a><br />
<a href="http://tinyurl.com/2d5r9u" rel="nofollow">Forrestal</a></p>
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		<title>By: canopfor</title>
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		<dc:creator>canopfor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 00:38:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Absolute disaster, fits the meaning hell on earth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolute disaster, fits the meaning hell on earth.</p>
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		<title>By: Rusty Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rusty Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 00:26:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Recommended reading: &quot;Sailors to the End&quot; by Gregory A. Freeman

Amazon.com: &lt;a href=&quot;http://tinyurl.com/ysc59v&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Paperback&lt;/a&gt; - &lt;a href=&quot;http://tinyurl.com/ysqoof&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Hardcover&lt;/a&gt;
My website: &lt;a href=&quot;http://home.grandecom.net/~cvproj/print-f.htm#freeman&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;References: Freeman&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Recommended reading: &#8220;Sailors to the End&#8221; by Gregory A. Freeman</p>
<p>Amazon.com: <a href="http://tinyurl.com/ysc59v" rel="nofollow">Paperback</a> &#8211; <a href="http://tinyurl.com/ysqoof" rel="nofollow">Hardcover</a><br />
My website: <a href="http://home.grandecom.net/~cvproj/print-f.htm#freeman" rel="nofollow">References: Freeman</a></p>
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		<title>By: American_Jihadist</title>
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		<dc:creator>American_Jihadist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 00:25:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would encourage every person in our nation to see this documentary when it is finished.

I&#039;ve seen the official Navy footage of this fire and it is indeed chilling.  It&#039;s also great testimony to the heroism of the average American sailor.  Many sailors lost their lives attempting to fight the fire because they were armed with only one thing...courage.  The catastrophe spread so fast, there was absolutely no time for Fire Fighting Equipment (FFE) to be deployed to those on the flight deck.  The sailors never hesitated.  

The first wave of sailors who rushed in with fire hoses charged with foam were obliterated in a secondary ordnance explosion.  If I recall correctly, the second wave of damage control was also without FFE and perished as well.  What those two waves bought with their lives was precious time, no matter how brief.  Once FFE was actually available on the flight deck and hanger deck, the resulting fires were able to be brought under control.

Those sailors who died paid the ultimate price not fighting an enemy of the United States.  Rather, they were fighting an enemy of mankind...out of control fire.  Those who perished to hold back the hungry flames until they could be extinguished should be honored as much as those who finally conquered the blaze.

The Forrestal will forever be an example of near-disaster, courage and fortitude for the US Navy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would encourage every person in our nation to see this documentary when it is finished.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve seen the official Navy footage of this fire and it is indeed chilling.  It&#8217;s also great testimony to the heroism of the average American sailor.  Many sailors lost their lives attempting to fight the fire because they were armed with only one thing&#8230;courage.  The catastrophe spread so fast, there was absolutely no time for Fire Fighting Equipment (FFE) to be deployed to those on the flight deck.  The sailors never hesitated.  </p>
<p>The first wave of sailors who rushed in with fire hoses charged with foam were obliterated in a secondary ordnance explosion.  If I recall correctly, the second wave of damage control was also without FFE and perished as well.  What those two waves bought with their lives was precious time, no matter how brief.  Once FFE was actually available on the flight deck and hanger deck, the resulting fires were able to be brought under control.</p>
<p>Those sailors who died paid the ultimate price not fighting an enemy of the United States.  Rather, they were fighting an enemy of mankind&#8230;out of control fire.  Those who perished to hold back the hungry flames until they could be extinguished should be honored as much as those who finally conquered the blaze.</p>
<p>The Forrestal will forever be an example of near-disaster, courage and fortitude for the US Navy.</p>
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		<title>By: Kowboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kowboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 00:23:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;pilamaye on August 20, 2007 at 6:59 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I don&#039;t know if they still do it, but when I was in boot camp in 1980, the ship&#039;s films were required watching during firefighting training. Really drilled home the point of how important it was to learn the techniques they taught us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>pilamaye on August 20, 2007 at 6:59 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if they still do it, but when I was in boot camp in 1980, the ship&#8217;s films were required watching during firefighting training. Really drilled home the point of how important it was to learn the techniques they taught us.</p>
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		<title>By: bdfaith</title>
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		<dc:creator>bdfaith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 00:15:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m working from memory too but I was under the impression McCain was the pilot of the plane that fired the missile -- due to an electrical short, not due to anything he did wrong. And he still had balls enough later to continue flying missions over Nam. He also turned down a chance to be released from the Hanoi Hilton early because of propaganda coup it would have given the North. He&#039;s done a lot of things I disagreed with since then but no one who&#039;s been paying attention can deny that the fact that young John McCain was a true American hero.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m working from memory too but I was under the impression McCain was the pilot of the plane that fired the missile &#8212; due to an electrical short, not due to anything he did wrong. And he still had balls enough later to continue flying missions over Nam. He also turned down a chance to be released from the Hanoi Hilton early because of propaganda coup it would have given the North. He&#8217;s done a lot of things I disagreed with since then but no one who&#8217;s been paying attention can deny that the fact that young John McCain was a true American hero.</p>
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		<title>By: Yakko77</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yakko77</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 23:58:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We watched that foottage many times for training purposes while I was in the Navy as a Damage Controlman on a aircraft carrier (U.S.S. Carl Vinson CVN-70).  Lots of lessons re-learned the hard way that terrible and bloody day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We watched that foottage many times for training purposes while I was in the Navy as a Damage Controlman on a aircraft carrier (U.S.S. Carl Vinson CVN-70).  Lots of lessons re-learned the hard way that terrible and bloody day.</p>
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		<title>By: bnelson44</title>
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		<dc:creator>bnelson44</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 23:31:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Video from the McCain campaign:
http://www.mefeedia.com/entry/2148898/

One thing about McCain, he doesn&#039;t quit</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Video from the McCain campaign:<br />
<a href="http://www.mefeedia.com/entry/2148898/" rel="nofollow">http://www.mefeedia.com/entry/2148898/</a></p>
<p>One thing about McCain, he doesn&#8217;t quit</p>
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		<title>By: heatherrc77</title>
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		<dc:creator>heatherrc77</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 23:25:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My husband was stationed on the USS Nimitz and told me a similar, yet not as horrible story.  

This excerpt is from Wikipedia:

&lt;blockquote&gt;On 30 November 1988, a 20mm cannon onboard the aircraft carrier USS Nimitz (CVN 68) accidentally fired on an A-7 Corsair aircraft during maintenance while the ship was conducting operations in the Arabian Sea. Six other aircraft were set on fire and there were two casualties{One sailor killed Nov 30, 1988, and another died Dec 2, 1988 from injuries sustained in that fire. USS NIMITZ WestPac Cruisebook 1988-89} reported as a result.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

He was below deck watching this happen on the television screens.  He said it was the most terrifying thing he could ever have imagined.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My husband was stationed on the USS Nimitz and told me a similar, yet not as horrible story.  </p>
<p>This excerpt is from Wikipedia:</p>
<blockquote><p>On 30 November 1988, a 20mm cannon onboard the aircraft carrier USS Nimitz (CVN 68) accidentally fired on an A-7 Corsair aircraft during maintenance while the ship was conducting operations in the Arabian Sea. Six other aircraft were set on fire and there were two casualties{One sailor killed Nov 30, 1988, and another died Dec 2, 1988 from injuries sustained in that fire. USS NIMITZ WestPac Cruisebook 1988-89} reported as a result.</p></blockquote>
<p>He was below deck watching this happen on the television screens.  He said it was the most terrifying thing he could ever have imagined.</p>
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