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	<title>Comments on: How TNR got suckered</title>
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		<title>By: Freelancer</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/08/20/how-tnr-got-suckered/comment-page-1/#comment-654295</link>
		<dc:creator>Freelancer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 07:03:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The PJM piece is anything but too far. A man who uses people in a disposable manner for his own gain, who pretends to love someone and is able to be convincing at it, who joins the U.S. military in order to acquire stories with which to damage it, IS A SOCIOPATH.

It doesn&#039;t require the professional diagnosis of a clinical therapist to see this, it requires being a human being.

So STB is a narcissistic sociopath with an axe to grind. There&#039;s no crime in that, other than defaming fellow soldiers with fraudulent stories intended to make them out to be heartless, murdering, evil occupiers. However, there is much wrong with Reeve, Foer, and the rest of the editorial staff at TNR for first allowing STB&#039;s work into print, then standing behind it with more fabrications, then attempting to block information, then blameshifting, but never once admitting that they might have made mistakes. 

We should be witnessing that rag&#039;s final days, and we should expect that neither Foer nor Reeve ever work in any form of journalistic media again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The PJM piece is anything but too far. A man who uses people in a disposable manner for his own gain, who pretends to love someone and is able to be convincing at it, who joins the U.S. military in order to acquire stories with which to damage it, IS A SOCIOPATH.</p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t require the professional diagnosis of a clinical therapist to see this, it requires being a human being.</p>
<p>So STB is a narcissistic sociopath with an axe to grind. There&#8217;s no crime in that, other than defaming fellow soldiers with fraudulent stories intended to make them out to be heartless, murdering, evil occupiers. However, there is much wrong with Reeve, Foer, and the rest of the editorial staff at TNR for first allowing STB&#8217;s work into print, then standing behind it with more fabrications, then attempting to block information, then blameshifting, but never once admitting that they might have made mistakes. </p>
<p>We should be witnessing that rag&#8217;s final days, and we should expect that neither Foer nor Reeve ever work in any form of journalistic media again.</p>
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		<title>By: RightWinged</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/08/20/how-tnr-got-suckered/comment-page-1/#comment-654007</link>
		<dc:creator>RightWinged</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 02:13:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This piece is unimportant to the overall situation here, but I do have to brag that I nailed down the fact that Beauchamp has a history of lies and deceit, based on this German broad he was engaged to.  I was able to figure that all out just from Myspace.

(Details across a number of my comments here:
http://hotair.com/archives/2007/08/06/breaking-beauchamp-signs-military-statement-recanting-tnr-pieces/ )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This piece is unimportant to the overall situation here, but I do have to brag that I nailed down the fact that Beauchamp has a history of lies and deceit, based on this German broad he was engaged to.  I was able to figure that all out just from Myspace.</p>
<p>(Details across a number of my comments here:<br />
<a href="http://hotair.com/archives/2007/08/06/breaking-beauchamp-signs-military-statement-recanting-tnr-pieces/" rel="nofollow">http://hotair.com/archives/2007/08/06/breaking-beauchamp-signs-military-statement-recanting-tnr-pieces/</a> )</p>
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		<title>By: CommentGuy</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/08/20/how-tnr-got-suckered/comment-page-1/#comment-653494</link>
		<dc:creator>CommentGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 20:04:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wrong to the to far stuff.

It tells the inside story and exposes the weaknesses that allowed this farce to happen.

As pointed out at CQ in the comments it is easily confirmed by reading STB&#039;s myspace page.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wrong to the to far stuff.</p>
<p>It tells the inside story and exposes the weaknesses that allowed this farce to happen.</p>
<p>As pointed out at CQ in the comments it is easily confirmed by reading STB&#8217;s myspace page.</p>
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		<title>By: student</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/08/20/how-tnr-got-suckered/comment-page-1/#comment-653088</link>
		<dc:creator>student</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 16:19:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article.  There must not be any grownups left at TNR because if there were, they would have fired Foer and cleaned up this mess long ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article.  There must not be any grownups left at TNR because if there were, they would have fired Foer and cleaned up this mess long ago.</p>
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		<title>By: Anton</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/08/20/how-tnr-got-suckered/comment-page-1/#comment-653047</link>
		<dc:creator>Anton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 15:39:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it funny that the MSM&#039;s complaint against blogs (such as PJM) most often involves the allegedly superior fact-checking performed by newspapers and magazines. Yet most of the recent scandals in the MSM have been exactly the opposite --- reporters getting fact-checked by blogs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it funny that the MSM&#8217;s complaint against blogs (such as PJM) most often involves the allegedly superior fact-checking performed by newspapers and magazines. Yet most of the recent scandals in the MSM have been exactly the opposite &#8212; reporters getting fact-checked by blogs.</p>
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		<title>By: Bad Candy</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/08/20/how-tnr-got-suckered/comment-page-1/#comment-653038</link>
		<dc:creator>Bad Candy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 15:30:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That was pretty bad.  TNR is in big trouble.  Hey, a preview button!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was pretty bad.  TNR is in big trouble.  Hey, a preview button!</p>
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		<title>By: JiangxiDad</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/08/20/how-tnr-got-suckered/comment-page-1/#comment-653025</link>
		<dc:creator>JiangxiDad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 15:23:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Now I think we can all agree that the only unbaised reporting is the boxscores in the sports section.

Claimsratt on August 20, 2007 at 11:05 AM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Uh-uh. Thought I noticed that the Yankees are listed on top even if tied with the Red Sox.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Now I think we can all agree that the only unbaised reporting is the boxscores in the sports section.</p>
<p>Claimsratt on August 20, 2007 at 11:05 AM</p></blockquote>
<p>Uh-uh. Thought I noticed that the Yankees are listed on top even if tied with the Red Sox.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/08/20/how-tnr-got-suckered/comment-page-1/#comment-653007</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 15:11:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good read. 
Funny how they attacked the conservative whistleblower because he was gay. Even more funny how it didn&#039;t work b/c he was already open about it and because the right isn&#039;t nearly as homophobic as the Left would like to believe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good read.<br />
Funny how they attacked the conservative whistleblower because he was gay. Even more funny how it didn&#8217;t work b/c he was already open about it and because the right isn&#8217;t nearly as homophobic as the Left would like to believe.</p>
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		<title>By: common sensineer</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/08/20/how-tnr-got-suckered/comment-page-1/#comment-653005</link>
		<dc:creator>common sensineer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 15:11:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The New Media continues to drain the MSM swamps, and it is interesting to see how far the &quot;establishment&quot; will go to find a place to hide their skeletons.

A cease-and-decist order???  &quot;Outing&quot; an already openly gay person???

Pathetic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The New Media continues to drain the MSM swamps, and it is interesting to see how far the &#8220;establishment&#8221; will go to find a place to hide their skeletons.</p>
<p>A cease-and-decist order???  &#8220;Outing&#8221; an already openly gay person???</p>
<p>Pathetic.</p>
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		<title>By: Claimsratt</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/08/20/how-tnr-got-suckered/comment-page-1/#comment-653000</link>
		<dc:creator>Claimsratt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 15:05:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now I think we can all agree that the only unbaised reporting is the boxscores in the sports section.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now I think we can all agree that the only unbaised reporting is the boxscores in the sports section.</p>
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		<title>By: TheSitRep</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/08/20/how-tnr-got-suckered/comment-page-1/#comment-652986</link>
		<dc:creator>TheSitRep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 14:57:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And disregard truths, wholesale!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And disregard truths, wholesale!</p>
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		<title>By: TheSitRep</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/08/20/how-tnr-got-suckered/comment-page-1/#comment-652983</link>
		<dc:creator>TheSitRep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 14:56:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tis a sorrowful day, when the truth becomes taboo.
But that is the key to unlocking the liberal pseudo-logic.

One first has to buy into a plethora of lies .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tis a sorrowful day, when the truth becomes taboo.<br />
But that is the key to unlocking the liberal pseudo-logic.</p>
<p>One first has to buy into a plethora of lies .</p>
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		<title>By: doriangrey</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/08/20/how-tnr-got-suckered/comment-page-1/#comment-652956</link>
		<dc:creator>doriangrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 14:48:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ex-tex on August 20, 2007 at 10:06 AM

&lt;blockquote&gt;Just proves that old saw about angering Liberals by tellin’em the truth!
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Now ain&#039;t that just the truth...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ex-tex on August 20, 2007 at 10:06 AM</p>
<blockquote><p>Just proves that old saw about angering Liberals by tellin’em the truth!
</p></blockquote>
<p>Now ain&#8217;t that just the truth&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: right2bright</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/08/20/how-tnr-got-suckered/comment-page-1/#comment-652922</link>
		<dc:creator>right2bright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 14:33:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The first line of attack when an error is made, is admit it.

They made two tactical errors, not checking Scott and then not admitting the mistake.

Many of companies have fallen, not because of the mistake, but because of the cover-up.

Everyone makes mistakes, how you correct them is what matters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The first line of attack when an error is made, is admit it.</p>
<p>They made two tactical errors, not checking Scott and then not admitting the mistake.</p>
<p>Many of companies have fallen, not because of the mistake, but because of the cover-up.</p>
<p>Everyone makes mistakes, how you correct them is what matters.</p>
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		<title>By: Captain Scarlet</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/08/20/how-tnr-got-suckered/comment-page-1/#comment-652918</link>
		<dc:creator>Captain Scarlet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 14:30:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An excellent read.  Drew me in immediately.  Worth the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An excellent read.  Drew me in immediately.  Worth the time.</p>
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		<title>By: TheBigOldDog</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/08/20/how-tnr-got-suckered/comment-page-1/#comment-652917</link>
		<dc:creator>TheBigOldDog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 14:30:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;he “journalism” racket is full of sub-average minds. 

Jaibones on August 20, 2007 at 9:50 AM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The host of Red Eye had a beutiful rant about journalist, and what they really are, the other night. It was awe inspiring...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>he “journalism” racket is full of sub-average minds. </p>
<p>Jaibones on August 20, 2007 at 9:50 AM</p></blockquote>
<p>The host of Red Eye had a beutiful rant about journalist, and what they really are, the other night. It was awe inspiring&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ex-tex</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/08/20/how-tnr-got-suckered/comment-page-1/#comment-652892</link>
		<dc:creator>Ex-tex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 14:06:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just proves that old saw about angering Liberals by tellin&#039;em the truth!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just proves that old saw about angering Liberals by tellin&#8217;em the truth!</p>
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		<title>By: profitsbeard</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/08/20/how-tnr-got-suckered/comment-page-1/#comment-652879</link>
		<dc:creator>profitsbeard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 13:58:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TNR = That&#039;s Not Real.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TNR = That&#8217;s Not Real.</p>
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		<title>By: Jaibones</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/08/20/how-tnr-got-suckered/comment-page-1/#comment-652877</link>
		<dc:creator>Jaibones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 13:56:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep.</p>
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		<title>By: Limerick</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/08/20/how-tnr-got-suckered/comment-page-1/#comment-652874</link>
		<dc:creator>Limerick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 13:54:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Jaibones on August 20, 2007 at 9:50 AM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

er.....I think we are in agreement</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Jaibones on August 20, 2007 at 9:50 AM</p></blockquote>
<p>er&#8230;..I think we are in agreement</p>
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		<title>By: Jaibones</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/08/20/how-tnr-got-suckered/comment-page-1/#comment-652868</link>
		<dc:creator>Jaibones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 13:50:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;What I admire the most about the new-media is it is breaking down the old standard of ‘it’s not what you know but who you know’.

Limerick on August 20, 2007 at 9:34 AM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

What I admire most is that we, the readers, get intelligent writers and thinkers to read.  

The &quot;journalism&quot; racket is full of sub-average minds.  You remember these dorks from the high school and college newspaper -- it&#039;s the same people.  Marginal thinkers with a groupthink liberal world view, congregating in an industry that smart people had no use for.

A couple of years of covering local politics and car accidents, and now they&#039;re brilliant political analysts.

Instead of these losers we get well-educated, intelligent, and fun-snarky writers who know more about just about everything.  My goodness, would you rather read Allah and Jeff Goldstein or Maureen Dowd and Bob Novak?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>What I admire the most about the new-media is it is breaking down the old standard of ‘it’s not what you know but who you know’.</p>
<p>Limerick on August 20, 2007 at 9:34 AM</p></blockquote>
<p>What I admire most is that we, the readers, get intelligent writers and thinkers to read.  </p>
<p>The &#8220;journalism&#8221; racket is full of sub-average minds.  You remember these dorks from the high school and college newspaper &#8212; it&#8217;s the same people.  Marginal thinkers with a groupthink liberal world view, congregating in an industry that smart people had no use for.</p>
<p>A couple of years of covering local politics and car accidents, and now they&#8217;re brilliant political analysts.</p>
<p>Instead of these losers we get well-educated, intelligent, and fun-snarky writers who know more about just about everything.  My goodness, would you rather read Allah and Jeff Goldstein or Maureen Dowd and Bob Novak?</p>
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		<title>By: volsense</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/08/20/how-tnr-got-suckered/comment-page-1/#comment-652856</link>
		<dc:creator>volsense</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 13:39:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a case of wanting so much for something to be true that you lose your rationale.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a case of wanting so much for something to be true that you lose your rationale.</p>
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		<title>By: Limerick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Limerick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 13:34:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read it this morning when it showed up in the headlines and if presented to a jury........Guilty!

What I admire the most about the new-media is it is breaking down the old standard of &#039;it&#039;s not what you know but who you know&#039;. With so many new eyes out there looking over their shoulder the old-media better clean house or there won&#039;t be a house.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read it this morning when it showed up in the headlines and if presented to a jury&#8230;&#8230;..Guilty!</p>
<p>What I admire the most about the new-media is it is breaking down the old standard of &#8216;it&#8217;s not what you know but who you know&#8217;. With so many new eyes out there looking over their shoulder the old-media better clean house or there won&#8217;t be a house.</p>
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		<title>By: JiangxiDad</title>
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		<dc:creator>JiangxiDad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 13:27:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look, I know it&#039;s beginning to sound trite. But the reason this amateurish, sloppy series of events transpired is because the liberal press is used to being unchallenged, or having challenges buried. The proverbial jig is of course up but if they acknowledge that, they&#039;re finished. 

To put it another way, the lib MSM will not have a soft-landing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look, I know it&#8217;s beginning to sound trite. But the reason this amateurish, sloppy series of events transpired is because the liberal press is used to being unchallenged, or having challenges buried. The proverbial jig is of course up but if they acknowledge that, they&#8217;re finished. </p>
<p>To put it another way, the lib MSM will not have a soft-landing.</p>
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		<title>By: TheBigOldDog</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheBigOldDog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 13:23:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>devastating. Simply devastating. The only person punished is the only person who told the truth. That&#039;s what Liberals call justice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>devastating. Simply devastating. The only person punished is the only person who told the truth. That&#8217;s what Liberals call justice.</p>
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